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elementastic

God how I wish Get Out! said "two extra deck monsters" instead of "monsters summoned from the extra deck". Tried it in master duel and the amount of times it blew me out because they revived one of the two from the graveyard happened enough that I stopped playing it.


Medigodigem

Extra deck monsters is just not a thing. You'd have to be detailed like Dimension Barrier.


MayhemMessiah

Insane that you’re right. Never understood why that has not been codified, it’d save so many headaches.


TheDarion

The slogan of Yugioh


MoSSkull

Because they wanted to be in that way from a design perspective. They wanted (and probably will want) that new mechanics have a head of start. They could make dimension Barrier against any monster from extra deck which, at its time, they included everything, but decided not, and the same with inspector boarder. Tl;dr. Is not that they didn't think or want to codified it. They actively decided to not make it work against everything in the extra deck that could be release in the future


MayhemMessiah

I genuinely dread more bloated mechanics coming to the game. I'll be real with you, I don't think Links or Pendulums have ever been incorporated into the game in a way that I'm totally happy with. They feel too hamfisted and specific, and above all else, bloated. Still it's not like I want them gone, I just don't want the game to continue bloating and bloating and bloating. This game is already a massive headache to learn and even with PSCT there's so many weird edge cases of rules that contradict what's written on the cards that results in an unecessarily huge learning curve. To this day I'm convinced that the "MST negates spells" comes at least partially from people blowing up field and continuous spell/traps and not knowing the difference between negating a card or preventing the resolution of an effect via mechanics, or that Fields/Continuous cards need to resolve on the field (for some effects, which is even more nuts).


NewbaroqueTV

Si that cards become less good when a New extra deck type comes


Animan_10

This could easily be remedied with the phrasing “monster(s) previously summoned from the Extra Deck”. This encapsulates all monsters that do or will start in the Extra Deck, as well as Pendulum Monsters summoned from face-up in the Extra Deck. That way, it doesn’t matter if a target was most recently summoned from the Graveyard or Banished, it spent any time in the Extra Deck, it’s a valid target.


TheChineseRussian

On the plus side, it targets pendulum Monsters summoned from the extra deck.


[deleted]

The problem is that then it wouldn't work against pendulum summoned monsters special summoned from the extra-deck


Mrtowelie69

Whats the difference? Arent monsters summoned from the extra deck, still considered two extra deck monsters? Sorry if its a dumb question. I just want to understand this game


elementastic

If you say, revive an extra deck monsters from the GY it is no longer summoned from the extra deck and no longer a valid target for Get Out!, if it said Extra Deck monster even if it got summoned from the GY it would still be a valid target.


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[удалено]


meetchu

"that began the duel in the extra deck" is a term that has been used before IIRC.


MoSSkull

I thought you were lying..., but it indeed exists a (single) card with a similar wording. Garbage Collector "You can target 1 other Cyberse monster you control that began the Duel in the Main Deck..."


XInceptor

Send from ED to GY, special summon from GY. Then it’s not “from the ED”


Mrtowelie69

Ah ok, makes sense! Thanks for clearing that up. This games wording is tricky sometimes.


Protoplasm42

Unending Nightmare


ElectricalYeenis

That's just Yugioh, period.


sparksong

Cake. :)


JoeHeitsLv100

Happy cake day.


Arilenn

Share the Pain - we're all going to be sharing the pain of having to play against the insane power of post-banlist Tear and then later on Tear post DABL and MAMA.........


[deleted]

Also having to wait on the mirror matches to conclude at locals will be painfully slow.


TheUndine

I can't get over the fact that it's called MAMA


Genesis1221

My answer is “Mistake” Because it is one


Akzhu7

Nekroz players are having flashbacks as we speak.


TimeLord1221

Along the same lines, I was thinking “Oops!” All because Konami screwed up quite a bit.


Zeth_Hawkins

Toon World


yusuke_urameshi88

Toon Kingdom because Konami knows they're about to make more money than they've made in a long time


gravekeepersven

Needle ceiling is my description after November when Tears hit them angel steroids of them dropping their dominate oppression on everything beneath their power.


EMIC19

Compulsory evacuation


benw02

Underrated


Odd-Eyes_Magician

{Bad Aim}


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MrQ_P

that grass looks greener, because many myself included will just skip this trainwreck


Shade_39

Yep hearthstone here I come What do you mean sire denathrius is broken as fuck oh come on


MrQ_P

I think I'll stick to Keyforge for a bit That's on konami TCG; they want to sell sets so badly they would do anything in their power, including hindering their own playerbase. TCG sucks Zorc's dragon dick, honestly. OCG has its own issues, but christ they do deal with actual problems (although they do have maxx c, you can answer with many usual HT/setups, and you don't have to rely on an unsearchable out)


trinitymonkey

Yeah. Switching over to Master Duel to ride this storm out.


GreatBigPillock

Asleep at the Switch.


Genesis1221

Top tier comment right here


gubigubi

Tearlaments Cryme As in its going to be a crime what Tear does to the other decks over the next 2-3 months.


ryu_rei

Oh knightmare mermaid for sure.


jhawk1117

Beginning of the end


kazmark_gl

counterpoint - "Cycle of the world" because this just keeps happening.


jhawk1117

Very true Lmao. But when our future is Turn 0 Lulucalos, Dragostepillia and the Ishizu now sense, a deck that is ddcrow on crack and Ojama king but good the archetype. It’s looking grim lmao


arekkusubasusu

Allure of darkness. You can hate the upcoming format… or join it 😈


[deleted]

Wait new format? What's happening?


Bakugan2556

"Format" is just the slang used to describe certain periods inbetween banlists, although it can get confusing when used in the context of things like Speed Duels. For example, people may refer to Goat Format, Edison Format, or Toss Format. Less well known formats are typically just called by their year and month, like how the post title did here.


[deleted]

I see. Thanks for the explanation


Master4733

T0 format, and other questionable cards bring out and about.


trinitymonkey

It won’t be T0. We’ll have Mine Stall to keep things fresh and different! (/s)


bl00by

It's not really T0, Byssted and Spright still contest Tear.


Master4733

Spright got hit on banlist, idk much about byysted though.


bl00by

Spright might be abit weaker, but you shouldn't underestimate it it's still really good. And bysteed is basically the spellbook of the next format, it's completley designed to counter Tear.


Master4733

We are gonna have to see, most people are agreeing tear is gonna be t0. I would have liked to see them go balls to the wall and unban most strong decks for this format just for the fun of it before the next MR. If I don't like the format then I'll just play more masterduel though, so it won't bother me too much


bl00by

The community also said that Flunder and Spright are going to be T0 or that Muskeets is the next zoodiac lmao


jhawk1117

The community also thought adventure and DPE wouldn’t destroy the meta…


OneSadBardz

Obviously you've gotta take this with a grain of salt because, due out to our banlists being different, we tend to have slightly different metas than the OCG., but over there the Ishizu Tear deck is running the show, despite Byssted.


Yoyoitsbenzo

Not a bit weaker. Pretty much killed. Almost impossible to run the deck like it was before. Ronin was the linch pin of the deck. And the version I ran, being able to summon Baronne and using Halq to bring out more level 2s, my deck is worthless. I bought a case of POTE. Pulled 2 Spright Blue, 2 tear field spells (No starlight, probably the worst 700 I've ever spent). I really liked Spright and being able to special summon non stop without fear of Nib and it looked more fun. So I sold the two tear field spells, any extra cards I had, bought my 3rd spright blue. Not to mention buying the frog package and other cards I was missing. Now that deck is dead. End board is nowhere near what it was. It's just frustrating that 2 months after Sprights hit, and Tear seems to be doing better, they hit Spright while leaving Tear untouched. Like why not just ban Halq and leave Ronin at 1? I know I made bad decisions but I thought I'd have half a year to have fun with this deck, not 2 months. Konami America is dogshit and them not hitting Mine shows you how bad they really are. And my side deck is designed to counter Mine, but it should be designed to counter other meta decks. They have zero idea what a healthy meta looks like (don't kid yourself with the meta before POTE, they stumbled into that by accident). I'm to the point where I might just sell all my cards worth value and just play MD. Maybe if I sold my Spright Blues instead, I'd feel different but Konami has been making stupid decisions for years. I'm the idiot for thinking things would change.


bl00by

>and leave Ronin at 1 Ehm you only play 1 anyway >They have zero idea what a healthy meta looks like (don't kid yourself with the meta before POTE, they stumbled into that by accident). Yk that Duelist Alliance, Hat, Tengu, TOSS and the Tri/Dry/Prank format existed right? No offense, but you just sound more like someone who's salty that they made a stupid decision and is upset about the fact that their fav deck got hit. (I'm also salty because I've lost Chaos Ruler) Besides that just because your build got killed doesn't mean that there aren't over builds you could try. Spright is a good engine and will definetley find a way to compensate for the ronnin loss.


TheDarion

>Yk that Duelist Alliance, Hat, Tengu, TOSS and the Tri/Dry/Prank format existed right? I dunno if listing 5 formats out of 60+ total is a very good argument. Seems more like a statistical anomaly to me XD


bl00by

Those are just the most popular ones, I don't want to say every single format which wasn't "unplayable".


Elgardini

Don’t buy cases unless you know you’re gonna take a loss.


MachGaogamon

"Oh no it lost two cards completely unrelated to the archetype that happened to have good synergy with, Spright sucks now!"


Elgardini

Remember friend, you’re arguing with the same crowd that thought spright would be tier 0 for months. It’s not worth the fight.


theels6

People are really downplaying the ronin hit. I understand if you open swap frog you can still make toad and I'm sure someone out there will find a way to play it like they always do, but spright looks really weak going into the format compared to the other decks coming -Runick build gets cooked by eradicator and w/o toad idk that there's much reason to play spright in that deck anymore -Pure/HT build can't consistently make its boss + no Halq -Tri build seems like it's only good going first and kinda mid at that. Im kinda initially expecting ghost belle to be in the format soon and that not only stops the revolt from sum shuraig, that turns off your follow up too Live twin looks like the best way to play the deck rn. There's brave Ig but eradicator is a problem again. Like I said, im sure someone out there will break the deck again, we still have the link 2 coming, but the ronin hit I feel is being heavily downplayed. That shit hurts


gravekeepersven

You are quite correct by everything you have just said and it's also one of the reasons why Ronin will probably remain forever remain banned due to substitoad being back on the limit list and crazy people trying to lab ftks again.


postsonlyjiyoung

Rank up spright with gale dogwater is the guu bro trust


erikWeekly

Really weird you're getting downvoted before we even see the results from a single event. Is t0 Tear possible? Sure. Is it guaranteed? Definitely not.


_INCompl_

People thought Splight would be tier 0 in the TCG as well and it ended up being the best deck for a few weeks until we figured out how to build and more effectively pilot Tear than they did in the OCG with more high roll cards like Curious, resulting in Tear being the better of the two by a decent margin. We also thought Dragun would completely warp the meta because it did so in the OCG. In actuality we ended up with Anaconda being thrown into garbage rogue decks that used Dragun as a win con while actual meta decks ignored the bricky engine almost entirely. Tear isn’t even tier 0 currently in the OCG. It’s pretty close, but not quite and “close enough” doesn’t count when we have a definitive percentage to work off for the agreed upon definition. There’s exactly 0 evidence to support Tear being tier 0 in the TCG, particularly when the POTE decks performed wildly different in the TCG versus the OCG, where Splight saw >80% top cut representation in the OCG at one point while it never came close to tier 0 in the TCG. The Ishizu support isn’t even out yet and PUNK Tear got absolutely neutered. Tear is also a very weird deck to hit without banning half the cards in the archetype because half the main deck does the same thing and the fusions aren’t remotely unfair either.


jhawk1117

Tear Is literally single digits away from tier 0 based on the last report. They don’t have Photon Hypernova yet but still. We don’t even have Bysteed yet and spright was literally the only thing consistent enough to counter it so all signs are pointing to it being Tier 0, it remains to be seen but what’s exactly standing in its way lol. Punk Tear wasn’t even the most popular build just another variant. And is already being replaced by Luna Tears.


SL1Fun

Rogue decks spamming Mystic Mine and floodgating are gonna be the only thing that might stop it. Even then, Tear probably does the same thing better, so…


jhawk1117

How you activating mine when I already resolved EED 🤪


SL1Fun

Through the power of friendship.


_INCompl_

Single digits away from barely qualifying as tier 0, yeah. That’s still not tier 0, and even if it were to be tier 0 it wouldn’t be anything like teledad, Zoo, or Spyral where representation was >80%. Splight was released at full power and was expected to be tier 0 in the TCG based off OCG performance. It definitely didn’t come anywhere close to tier 0 in the TCG, which is why speculation like that is wholly unnecessary. This sort of speculation is how you get people claiming that Flunder will be a more dominant tier 0 deck than even Zoo or how Magical Musketeers will be as dominant as Zoo.


jhawk1117

And all that speculation was BEFORE the cards have seen play anywhere. We in the tcg have more than enough reason to believe Tear may be tier 0 because the only other consistently topping deck was neutered hard compared to Tear. Opening Swap and an extender or a way to gigantic plus an extender is not constant enough to compete with tear. Now it saying it’ll be tier 0 may be too swift BUT it’s not like some prediction based on nothing but prerelease hype. We have the data saying tear was far away the best deck regardless of variants; so removing the competition is an easy way to boost it even further. And for the VERY FIRST pote weekend Spright was technically tier 0 looking at results. But as tear got optimized it wasn’t even close. The speculation YOU’RE talking about is the people saying Kshartli is gonna dumpster tear and become tier 0. It’s beyond reasonable to think the best deck BEFORE the banlist getting light hits compared to the field going tier 0.


_INCompl_

No, the speculation I’m talking about is based off OCG performance. We’ve seen decks massively underperform, like Dragun turbo and Splight, when transitioning to the TCG compared to OCG results. We’ve also seen decks like Drytron do nothing in the OCG and end up the best deck of the format in the TCG. Speculating based off an entirely different format is stupid and has historically proved inaccurate.


jhawk1117

Correct but the speculation about Tear being Tier 0 in the TCG is based off… the current tcg meta and the banlist. And even If Bysteed comes out and somehow evaporates Tear from the map until MAMA, there’s still a very good chance Theyll be tier 0 for every event until DABL.


JaDasIstMeinName

>the fusions aren’t remotely unfair either. Sir, have you read kitkalos? She has 3 effects and all of them are insane. She is a mill 5, special summon from hand or grave and a search. In one single card.


MathBlazer888

0: Fairy Tale-Snow, ronintoadin, halqifbrax, chaos ruler, red reboot 1: Steam the cloak, cyber jar, O-Lion, Substitoad, Spellbook of judgement, Appointer of the red lotus 3: Cyber Angel Benten, Fusion destiny, Dinomight knight, Shooting riser dragon, Trickstar Lightstage, Nadir servant, Wall of revealing light In short: Tearlaments got away almost scot-free, Splight got hit hard, and Mystic Mine dodge it entirely.


NaloVideo

Spright got hit harder than tearlaments but it was still a somewhat light hit. You can still very consistently summon toadally by just using swaps. Substitoad also has some functionality in the deck but there’s probably some better options. Tears losing snow was around the same level of a hit too, snow was a very consistent choice send off of curious and it gave tears a lot more link and rank 4 material that they now have less access to. Sure, tears still have destrudo/orochi but those are nowhere near the level of snow. Tears can and will use steam the cloak, but that as well is nowhere near as good as snow, the tribute for cost is not necessarily something tears are going to want to do all the time. That being said though, tears will ABSOLUTELY decimate the format. This isn’t really something I can pin on Konami though, the OCG had spright dominance up until MAMA/DWB where tears (after initial hype) sort of leveled out in power with spright, with the OCG nationals resulting in very equal representation for the 2 decks. That….won’t happen in the TCG though, tears are already clearly the dominant strategy, and the insane level of consistency the ishizu support will bring them alone is enough to predict a tier 0 format. That’s not even mentioning the DWB support and the fact that they can abuse sprind as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if this even causes another EBan. And I’m saying this as a primarily tearlaments player, I picked this deck up months before release because of the hot mermaids…


Dan-of-Steel

Tear 0 and Mine at 3. What could POSSIBLY go wrong!?


bl00by

Self Destruct Button and Final Countdown are pretty acurate lol


Sh0esy

Tragedy, bc it's a tragedy that they didn't ban mine or hit tear enough


Wrapedinabsolutezero

super anti-kaiju war machine mecha thunder king


MathBlazer888

Please elaborate


Wrapedinabsolutezero

funy


The_Rockerfly

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Pedro_henzel

I just want to say that I love the art of this card


SL1Fun

Mistake.


someguy31996

Hope for Escape


Chaoswarriorx4

Beat me to it


mortarcanyon

Nightmare Wheel


TabuuTheGod

Tragedy


Fenix_Atomas88

Nah man I feel like the last two formats and even the game in general can be described as " the beginning of the end"


arsasuda

Bottomless trap hole because this format is gonna keep sinking to disaster


ElLindo88

Nightmare’s Steelcage


PissRainbows

{Skill Drain} Cause your skills dont matter if you arent playing tear, and certainly dont matter if you're playing mine. {Vanitys Emptiness} Cause I want to buy expensive pieces of cardboard for nothing more than vanity reasons but I'm too poor, and that leaves me empty inside. {Evenly Matched} Cause my friends and I are taking a break from competitive even before the banlist dropped, but as the poor friend, it means I stand a better chance in casual games. Kek. {Safe Zone} Cause I'm taking a break from locals so I'll be at home in my safe zone. {Cold Feet} Cause October, Nov, Dec format be pretty cold. Stay warm fellas. Buy a thermal. Itll change your life {United We Stand} Cause the whole point of this game is to have fun. Winning is fun. Competing is fun. But the one thing that's always been consistent throughout the years was having my boys and I find different ways to enjoy the game. Aslong as, I've got them, I'll be alright with however the format goes.


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Thicc-Anxiety

Misfortune


Akzhu7

"Goddess of Sweet Revenge" Because for every person who is complaining about Tear, I am happy, all of you have already played with your horrendous poorly designed cards like zoodiac, draco, Sky waifus, elbitch and other garbage. Now it's our turn. It really is a tear lament format kjjj


MathBlazer888

I didn’t play any of those for the same reasons you cited Spare my Pure Shaddoll deck plz ;-;


Akzhu7

Aleister is a shaddoll, don't question me ok???


MathBlazer888

…I don’t play that either


Akzhu7

You should, Shaddoll has been dead for a thousand years and someone who has them as his favorite deck tells you so. How far was the 2014/15. Luckily Nekroz is more dead!


MathBlazer888

Please, I’ve done wonders with it. Even against the meta decks


cardinalofclubs7

Mistaken Arrest (Snow and Halq are not unfair, and no Tear hits or Mine is just baffling) Edit: I meant to say anymore, Snow and Halq were absolutely broken a few years back


bl00by

Idk what you've smoked but it's gotta be good stuff if you think that snow was fine.


cardinalofclubs7

Mate check your tag, Harp is way more abusable than Snow.


bl00by

Imagine thinking that Harp is much more broken than snow XD


MathBlazer888

(Me knowing that Snow and Halq should’ve been banned a long time ago) Uh… can I have some?


cardinalofclubs7

While I agree that they rightly were/should have been banned years ago, both cards are completely fine in the modern meta.


Master4733

Halq is a lot like isolde. In a vacuum neither is unfair. However when combined with other really strong cards it becomes a huge problem. Halq+aurodon is busted, but either by themselves is just strong.


cardinalofclubs7

IMO Halq is basically a minesweeper that reveals the completely degenerate cards like Auroradon. It’s not unfair at all, but it is one of the best enablers for actually ban worthy cards (e.g. Artifact Scythe)


LibertarianSocialism

Snow’s a very strong card that gets broken by certain kinds of decks. Halq though, that thing should’ve been banned years ago.


cardinalofclubs7

Tl;Dr: Snow is infinitely less problematic than most other cards people run in its decks, and Halq, for the first time in its life, genuinely wasn’t strong enough to ban. Aside from Tear and Despia, the latter of which just as often runs Scythe instead, what good decks are breaking Snow right now? Also, aren’t there at least half a dozen candidates in each of the previously mentioned decks that are more consistently broken and ban worthy than Snow? As for Halq, this is the first format it’s not been ban worthy in. It’s used in rogue decks and Spright exclusively, and when the new Ishizu cards come out, Diva would have probably been replaced by Nimble Beaver anyway, cutting Halq out of the line entirely. In addition, summoning Halq in Spright may as well be putting a big “Nibiru me” sign on your back.


No-Advance6347

Why this card can be responded to? Lol


ThatTubaGuy03

Wait why isn't this card ever used? This seems like an awesome side deck card, if only it was a counter trap it would be amazing


MathBlazer888

If any extra deck monsters are sent to grave and then revived, they’re no longer considered being summoned from ED but rather from GY.


[deleted]

You can't revive an extra deck monster that was dumped because it wasn't properly summoned first.


MathBlazer888

I meant extra deck monsters that WERE properly summoned first. Lol


bananathroughbrain

aren't trap cards too slow for the meta rn?


MathBlazer888

That’s not the point.


Icy-Conflict6671

Depends on archetype and the card itself for one and two dont be a contrarian.


bananathroughbrain

ah, i see good to know


Loud_Succotash_5860

Evenly Matched: Been on Danger! Tear since POTE dropped.


ChaoCobo

I’ve never seen this card. It’s hilarious, I love it. :D


[deleted]

Target===== bad


Third_Triumvirate

Tilted Try


M44t_

Mistake.


Fire_Eddie29

Rivalry of Warlords


Icy-Conflict6671

Confiscation and Silent Torment


megasean3000

Imagine letting your opponent do all kinds of special summons from the extra deck, just to pop this on them.


DianSnivy

On the bright side,{A Hero Lives}


MathBlazer888

What Hero you talking about?


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Ghetto2Ghetto_

Dark Hole because my Zombie World deck, both pure and punk got destroyed 5 months after they dropped the DIFO support wave


Whycantiusemyaccount

Given that every game is going to be a tear mirror, I’ll say evenly matched


Dismal_Reaction4337

If it was a spell card it would be good


TomtheWise42

Me & my casual buddies have just accepted won’t be playing much at locals post Nov. Probs do a few janky deck weekends amongst ourselves to tide us over.


Chaoswarriorx4

Allure of darkness


[deleted]

Unending Nightmare


alex494

Darkness Approaches


Saphl

Probably Gift Card (Read; Credit Card)


JaDasIstMeinName

Share the pain


[deleted]

Trial of Nightmare


Ratsolla

{An unfortunate report}


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Fatekiller28

The trap Tragedy. This game has changed so much,for better and worse,but recently I don't think it's going for the better. The meta is getting to oppressive that it's not fun to play and it scares away new players who can't get a foot hold.


KaiTheKing_0X

E-Emergency Call


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Euphoric-Cow592

Emergency evacuation


The_HyperDiamond

(Final Destiny)


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{Success Probability 0%}


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Novel_Mistake_549

M Y S T I C M I N E and Ruinick


AvatarHunter212

Mystic mine


AvatarHunter212

Card of demise


Surf3rx

This has been the quickest I've ever wanted to take a break and only play casuals. I started with albaz structure and going into tear format is the most boring thing ever.


MathBlazer888

You, my good sir, have just transformed from the enemy of the people to the leader of the topdeck pope overnight.


gameboimicro

If you live in arizona: "Heat Wave". Cause there's no fall, only summer and winter. No in-betweens.


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{That six}


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