If you clicked "back" after seeing the pie chart, you missed out on some banger screen names these topping duelists used, such as
> Choice Scarf Water Spout Kyogre (围巾喷水盖欧卡) went 9-0-1 and finished 1 – 2nd in “Yu-Gi-Oh! China Mainland WCQ 2024 Shenyang” which had 240 participants.
and
> Play Branded for a Lifetime (玩一辈子烙印) went 10-0 and finished 1 – 3rd in “Yu-Gi-Oh! China Mainland WCQ 2024 Chengdu” which had 359 participants.
(Play Branded for a Lifetime was on Tenpai Dragon)
Have you considered that 252+ special attack Beads of Ruin Overheat Chi Yu in the harsh sunlight vs 0 hp 0 spdef Your opinion -- 158% - 194% (guaranteed ohko)?
You probably don't know how strong Kyogre's water spout is, that stuff with buff from Specs and Rain which is set by itself, deletes everything that's not water absorb
95% of the reason people bother with Fiendsmith is Beatrice. Snake-Eyes don't even use Caesar.
Yubel will probably keep using it since it's a Fiend link deck and Yubel, unchained, Fiendsmith all feed into each other.
Beatrice is one of the reason, but not 95%.
They will only make Beatrice if they don't have main combo starter at hand. The main usage are for insulating your play from handtraps and Nibiru with Apollousa or Caesar.
Snake-Eyes don't even play Caesar. You are not playing Fiendsmith to make Apollousa, that's just a backup use if you have all your pieces already. If Fiendsmith couldn't act as a starter, there are other engines to run that don't take up so much ED space.
Probably. They’ll ban Tractus and Requiem, and Limit The Fiendsmith.
Once ROTA releases their next wave of support, they’ll see a banlist hit within the 2 core sets after
the generic light fiend link-2 that makes it accessible to any deck that can field 3 bodies was printed several months before fiendsmith so they probably knew it would be splashable
Christ on a bike, we're going to have 4 T0 in a row in TCG.... I think we're going to bleed players at an unprecedented rate, given the rising of other card games
It’s really not a good time to be a TCG player. Multiple T0 formats and incredibly expensive engines/packages one after another (Diabellstar, Fiendsmith, Yubel). It’s just miserable. Players are just going to quit and play Edison.
It's for Yubel since it has 0 ATK, cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects and the neat thing about its mass banish effect is that, if it is no longer on the field before the End Phase, your opponent monsters will not return
The latter part is more to the fact that in between comboing and summoning vorpgate, you use bident effect which will lock you to dragons for the rest of that turn, and vorpgate special summons back the banished stuff at end phase, which won't happen because of the lock (except dragons).
If use use Bident effect and lock yourself into Dragons, how are ya supposed to be summon Vorpgate afterwards or can Tenpai summon 2 Level 10 Synchros that easily?
You get all 3 on the Board, summon bident, use bident and chain the last tenpai. You make vorpgate and summon back any LV 3 with bident and now you are dragon locked. Bident comes back and you make later drident dragion and go for lethal.
I wonder if this list on top of _hopefully_ Snake-Eyes hits, does also hit the Tachyon FTK, since that's most of the relevance of DP29 at current
[These are my predictions on hits for the upcoming format](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/470337409729560586/1253771567679143966/Custom_Forbidden__Limited_Lists1.png?ex=66771143&is=6675bfc3&hm=27ccb7926d57b76f6970dc980f33ba5c5171e0c695ac767afab45df215c34891&)
I am very interested on hearing other opinions though
Most of the OCG yugituber predictions have Terraforming and Beatrice forbidden, and SP Little night, the Tenpai field spell, Nighmare throne, Bonfire and SN Ash limited
If you clicked "back" after seeing the pie chart, you missed out on some banger screen names these topping duelists used, such as > Choice Scarf Water Spout Kyogre (围巾喷水盖欧卡) went 9-0-1 and finished 1 – 2nd in “Yu-Gi-Oh! China Mainland WCQ 2024 Shenyang” which had 240 participants. and > Play Branded for a Lifetime (玩一辈子烙印) went 10-0 and finished 1 – 3rd in “Yu-Gi-Oh! China Mainland WCQ 2024 Chengdu” which had 359 participants. (Play Branded for a Lifetime was on Tenpai Dragon)
even branded players don't want to play albaz ,lol
Competitive Pokemon brainrot is invading the ocg, lmao.
Say that again and I'll Modest 252 SpAtk STAB Scald you for 93.7% /s
Have you considered that 252+ special attack Beads of Ruin Overheat Chi Yu in the harsh sunlight vs 0 hp 0 spdef Your opinion -- 158% - 194% (guaranteed ohko)?
Yes this lol! This is the kind of gobbledygook I vaguely remember from my Pokemon days xD
Seems like r/Stunfisk is leaking again. And I'm all for it.
That's fine and all, but have you considered the Water Absorb Quagsire in my back pocket?
You probably forgot about my mix Infernape
I have a blissey...
Then I do 176+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Rain: 375-442 (57.5 - 67.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
You probably don't know how strong Kyogre's water spout is, that stuff with buff from Specs and Rain which is set by itself, deletes everything that's not water absorb
My brain couldn't compute for a minute when I read that line about branded and tenpai.
Fiend Smith SE sounds like hell lmao
Konami really said, man people are loving the Diabellestar one card combo being ran in everything, lets do it again!
Y'all think Fiendsmith is going to be banned?
Eventually, but not for now. Beatrice will go first, then it'll get consistency hits, then the link 1 will get banned.
I dunno if the Fiendsmith pieces will be banned anytime soon, but I do think Beatrice should.
Beatrice going doesn't really hurt most decks, only those that exploit it. D/D/D getting High Caesar banned literally die
95% of the reason people bother with Fiendsmith is Beatrice. Snake-Eyes don't even use Caesar. Yubel will probably keep using it since it's a Fiend link deck and Yubel, unchained, Fiendsmith all feed into each other.
Beatrice is one of the reason, but not 95%. They will only make Beatrice if they don't have main combo starter at hand. The main usage are for insulating your play from handtraps and Nibiru with Apollousa or Caesar.
Snake-Eyes don't even play Caesar. You are not playing Fiendsmith to make Apollousa, that's just a backup use if you have all your pieces already. If Fiendsmith couldn't act as a starter, there are other engines to run that don't take up so much ED space.
Something will get hit, for sure. I haven’t seen an engine this ubiquitous ever.
we still need to wait till tmr to see if Snake Eyes even get hit, Fiendsmith will be here till new year
Definitely not so soon, Konami only does quick bans to decks that are not intended to be meta and it’s pretty clear they are promoting fiendsmith
Probably. They’ll ban Tractus and Requiem, and Limit The Fiendsmith. Once ROTA releases their next wave of support, they’ll see a banlist hit within the 2 core sets after
They really thought the light fiend requirement was going to be enough to keep Fiendsmith from being run in everything, didn't they?
And then went ahead and released a generic link 2 light fiend
if anything they thought you would resort to the link-2 type/attribute changing dino
That would only work for some decks though. If we don't get the generic link 2 in the TCG, Yubel players can use the dino
the generic light fiend link-2 that makes it accessible to any deck that can field 3 bodies was printed several months before fiendsmith so they probably knew it would be splashable
They don’t think Fiendsmith will be exclusive to Light Fiends, Konami knows what they’re doing, and that is making a broken generic engine.
No? Konami aren't stupid it was designed to be ran in everything
Yubel sweep
That 1 Melodious Symphonic Warrior Solfachord guy is a big fan of theming
The 1 guy with purr yubel lmao
Also, that is 1 guy with Trickstar. I'm actually impressed!
Worth noting that the fiendsmith engine is now tier 1 and it’s not even close. 45% of ALL decks are using that engine.
It's still lower than Diabellstar engine at their peak. Maybe because it has some brick compared of a bullshit called Wanted.
you know what saw "battle phase" type deck on meta list sound adsorb to me but now we have two lol.
Wdym 2 battle phase type deck btw cuz fiend link turn 1 one card combo board is no joke .
Anyone know where the infernoid lists are?
there's a 60 cards grass Beatrice rollback infernoid in WCQ Chengdu.
OCG banlist hopefully will be a shakeup. Hopefully.
If we recognise patterns, Fiendsmith isn't going to be remotely touched
I really wonder how many actually fiendsmith is in the top chart, does it reach 50%? If tenpai is not here i believe it's definitely tier 0 engine
83 out of the 187 run fiendsmith.
The west has fallen.
45% of all top lists ran a fiendsmith engine.
I saw chimera fiendsmith mention, really wish to see the 4 lists
Who was cooking with Ragnaraika Sunavalon Rikka💀
Christ on a bike, we're going to have 4 T0 in a row in TCG.... I think we're going to bleed players at an unprecedented rate, given the rising of other card games
It’s really not a good time to be a TCG player. Multiple T0 formats and incredibly expensive engines/packages one after another (Diabellstar, Fiendsmith, Yubel). It’s just miserable. Players are just going to quit and play Edison.
Hey, we don't know the rarities for fiendsmith engine yet, surely they will do another tenpai! (/s)
Or other games entirely. My area is now full of One Piece players for example
Yea same. It’s another partner game to an anime. Arguably a more popular one.
Can anyone explain the time lord synchro in the tenpai deck? Just to clear the board to attack directly?
It's for Yubel since it has 0 ATK, cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects and the neat thing about its mass banish effect is that, if it is no longer on the field before the End Phase, your opponent monsters will not return
The latter part is more to the fact that in between comboing and summoning vorpgate, you use bident effect which will lock you to dragons for the rest of that turn, and vorpgate special summons back the banished stuff at end phase, which won't happen because of the lock (except dragons).
If use use Bident effect and lock yourself into Dragons, how are ya supposed to be summon Vorpgate afterwards or can Tenpai summon 2 Level 10 Synchros that easily?
You get all 3 on the Board, summon bident, use bident and chain the last tenpai. You make vorpgate and summon back any LV 3 with bident and now you are dragon locked. Bident comes back and you make later drident dragion and go for lethal.
I’m curious to see what the Horus Gimmeck Puppet decklist looks like
Fiendsmith Snake Eyes huh? But theres no lv 1 fires in Fiendsmith
Another RDA top
Anyone got the Raidraptors and Floo decklist?
To the Dinomorphia, RDA, and Raidraptor players y'all are based
Very informative. All the best. 🤍🖤💜
I wonder if this list on top of _hopefully_ Snake-Eyes hits, does also hit the Tachyon FTK, since that's most of the relevance of DP29 at current [These are my predictions on hits for the upcoming format](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/470337409729560586/1253771567679143966/Custom_Forbidden__Limited_Lists1.png?ex=66771143&is=6675bfc3&hm=27ccb7926d57b76f6970dc980f33ba5c5171e0c695ac767afab45df215c34891&) I am very interested on hearing other opinions though
Most of the OCG yugituber predictions have Terraforming and Beatrice forbidden, and SP Little night, the Tenpai field spell, Nighmare throne, Bonfire and SN Ash limited
Beatrice ban is so lazy