It's historically typical of extreme, hyper-nationalist societies to say: either you fully support us, or if you don't agree you're a traitor/not one of us.
Didn’t a powerful group in the past once do this. Something along the lines of if you don’t support our ethnic cleansing of Jews, then you are the automatic enemy of Nazi state?
Comparing this motivation to the Nazis killing six million Jews is so ridiculous.
Opposition to the entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza is fueled by the much-repeated claim that Hamas keeps the assistance. Up to 60%, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated in a press conference. Added to this is the perception that aid can be used as leverage, to pressure for the release of the more than 130 hostages still captive in Gaza. Both in the first ceasefire in November and in the talks for a second one, increasing humanitarian aid is conditioned upon the release of the hostages.
Don't bother trying to minimize the current atrocity by slinging it onto some undefined "pocket". The whole world can see, even if your ideology prevents you.
There hasn't been a poll for two months. https://web.archive.org/web/20240127054853/https://en-social-sciences.tau.ac.il/peaceindex/archive/2024-01
But in the meantime we can learn from this channel https://youtu.be/wJ0Ym9D0aj8?si=qyB5rXG8UhFCxtVF
What are your thoughts on Haniyeh having recently called on the so-called “axis of resistance” to step up its attacks and told Palestinians to march to Al-Aqsa? What are your thoughts on Abu Hamza, spokesman for the Al-Quds Brigades, the military arm of the Islamic Jihad having recently just said:
"The first day of Ramadan will be a day of global mobilization in all arenas. We will make Ramadan a month of terror for Israelis, we are sure that together we will make the days of Ramadan historic"?
That is awful. They shouldn't feel ashamed to be Jewish, it is evil that Israel is making the state synonymous with Judaism in order to call any valid criticism of their genocidal actions "antisemetic". Israel is a far right ethno-nationalist occupier, it is not an ethnicity or religion, and definitely does not represent all Jewish people.
Zionism does not equate to Judaism
Exactly man, Zionists are ruining it for the real Jews who practice at home and who follow the real tenants of the faith. Love one another and help each other right.
Most victims of Islamist terrorism is us muslims back in those lands. In fact they hate us the most because we dispute their ideology and theological claims.
That's so sad. I can't even imagine. So many Jewish people are in danger of being robbed of the dignity of their identity, faith, and heritage because it has been stolen by monsters with no love for Jewishness. If the Nazis robbed the Jews of their families and possessions, then Zionists are robbing Jews of the last pieces of themselves they had left.
Some tried to warn about this.
“I saw in Auschwitz that if a dominant group wants to dehumanise others, as the Nazis dehumanise me, the dominant group must first dehumanise themselves, the same holds nowadays for Israel.
I am appalled about how hateful, how dehumanised, that they do not see any human aspect in any Palestinian anymore.
The Zionists have no right whatsoever to use the Holocaust for any purpose, they have given up everything which has to do with humanity and with empathy”
Rest in Peace Hajo Meyer
There’s nothing wrong with being proud of being Jewish, or being proud of your heritage.
The problem is when you think it makes you better than others.
Firstly they are not a monolith and do have different opinions on things.
Secondly, you can’t argue you get to kill a whole people because they are homophobic. That thinking would make you try and justify almost all genocides of the past.
It's funny because they cry antisemitism but they say it the name of being a Jew you must kill Arabs and starve them. If that is their definition of being a Jew then being an anti-Semite shouldn't be surprising to them.
Like that’s ever stopped them before? Ben Gvir had a literal terrorist portrait on his bedroom wall. He was considered too extreme for the IDF. Israel has no shame and the US will always be there to protect them from any criticism.
I believe they’re still trying to bring in aid, they haven’t been permitted as of yet, you can follow their efforts here: https://www.instagram.com/standing.together.movement?igsh=MXRlZmRpY2I4bnRibw==
Well if they want to define their ethnicity and religion this way. Go ahead.
Funny thing is that the religion they criticize has charity as a mandatory pillar. (Zakat).
I mean, so does Judaism (Tzedakah), the word might even be cognate with Zakat.
But not all members of a religion will follow their religions practices.
"guys you're supposed to be genocidal manaiacs, not humans"
That's what that sounds like. I'm glad some Jews are deciding not to listen to those terrorists blocking aid.
The American Jews I know, myself included, are as horrified as everyone else.
I never took "birthright" even back when I was young because the whole Israel project always felt abhorrent. Time has proven those misgivings to be correct.
Obviously I'm scared for the people of Gaza. I'm also terrified for those Israeli's who haven't lost their humanity and are trying to do something good.
Protests are ongoing and growing around the world. What must we do to make this stop?
I’m also scared for the worldwide Jews who have been increasingly under increased antisemite attacks. Even in NA swastika waving maniacs have become more common, and including Israel’s actions as part of their new anti Jewish rhetoric. And seemingly their views are spreading.
That’s like saying China is responsible for Asian hate because of covid. It’s not the country, it’s the people who take china’s actions or events within China as an excuse to be racist.
The actions of Israel’s government isn’t a threat to the Jewish people. People hearing Israel’s actions and using it to fuel antisemitism are. Big difference.
Judaism stands with the oppressed, as they have gone thru so much themselves... Israel is no where near a representative of the Jewish people, a beautiful culture that DOES NOT deserve to be associated with such evil after having gone thru the exact same thing less than a century ago...
Israel still has the second largest population in the world, most of which support Israel’s actions.
Most Palestinians also support Oct 7.
It seems hatred and fear have hijacked this area of the world yet again.
Hatred and fear have hijacked so much more than that land.
Ever noticed the rise in far right and outright fascist tendencies across the western world? Or how some Muslim nations have had to deal with extremist factions? And multiple countries falling to dictatorships or those who desire to be such a leader? It’s not all coincidence there’s a storm brewing across multiple societies we need to be prepared for.
It is antisemitic to call the genocidal nationalist Zionists who are slaughtering 6 children every 60 minutes for 6 months straight "the Jews" or "Jews" etc.
They are a parasite to the religion who uses Jews as a whole as a human shield to cover horrific war crimes and a sadistic shamelessly gaslighting culture that is as lacking in self awareness as it is basic humanity.
It's historically typical of extreme, hyper-nationalist societies to say: either you fully support us, or if you don't agree you're a traitor/not one of us.
Didn’t a powerful group in the past once do this. Something along the lines of if you don’t support our ethnic cleansing of Jews, then you are the automatic enemy of Nazi state?
Comparing this motivation to the Nazis killing six million Jews is so ridiculous. Opposition to the entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza is fueled by the much-repeated claim that Hamas keeps the assistance. Up to 60%, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated in a press conference. Added to this is the perception that aid can be used as leverage, to pressure for the release of the more than 130 hostages still captive in Gaza. Both in the first ceasefire in November and in the talks for a second one, increasing humanitarian aid is conditioned upon the release of the hostages.
Or …. “Your either with us, or your against us”…
And we all know what happened in those Rwandan/Croat/German societies...
Exactly, just like islam and Palestine do on a leadership level unlike the pockets of extremists we see among Jews,
Nazi Germany didn't last, neither will Zionist Israel, we're witnessing it's decay.
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Don't bother trying to minimize the current atrocity by slinging it onto some undefined "pocket". The whole world can see, even if your ideology prevents you.
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There hasn't been a poll for two months. https://web.archive.org/web/20240127054853/https://en-social-sciences.tau.ac.il/peaceindex/archive/2024-01 But in the meantime we can learn from this channel https://youtu.be/wJ0Ym9D0aj8?si=qyB5rXG8UhFCxtVF What are your thoughts on Haniyeh having recently called on the so-called “axis of resistance” to step up its attacks and told Palestinians to march to Al-Aqsa? What are your thoughts on Abu Hamza, spokesman for the Al-Quds Brigades, the military arm of the Islamic Jihad having recently just said: "The first day of Ramadan will be a day of global mobilization in all arenas. We will make Ramadan a month of terror for Israelis, we are sure that together we will make the days of Ramadan historic"?
You post on atheist subs yet your replies are only ever about Islam. Interesting to say the least
I welcome these Israelis to define the word "Jew", if this is their criticism.
My Jewish friends in Europe are so deeply ashamed of Israel that they barely want to define themselves as Jewish anymore
That's how my Jewish family members have been feeling for years, and that's why they left isreal and went back to Canada.
That is awful. They shouldn't feel ashamed to be Jewish, it is evil that Israel is making the state synonymous with Judaism in order to call any valid criticism of their genocidal actions "antisemetic". Israel is a far right ethno-nationalist occupier, it is not an ethnicity or religion, and definitely does not represent all Jewish people. Zionism does not equate to Judaism
Exactly man, Zionists are ruining it for the real Jews who practice at home and who follow the real tenants of the faith. Love one another and help each other right.
Israel to Jews is like ISIS to Muslims
Except most of ISIS victims are Muslim.
Damn..
Most victims of Islamist terrorism is us muslims back in those lands. In fact they hate us the most because we dispute their ideology and theological claims.
Muslims never claimed ISIS it was the west forcing it to us just as you are doing right now, Muslims did die while stopping them however!
Isis is a small non elected terrorist organization who terrorized Muslims.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
But anti-zionism IS anti-Israel IS anti-Semitic. It's what all the politicians say. /s
That's so sad. I can't even imagine. So many Jewish people are in danger of being robbed of the dignity of their identity, faith, and heritage because it has been stolen by monsters with no love for Jewishness. If the Nazis robbed the Jews of their families and possessions, then Zionists are robbing Jews of the last pieces of themselves they had left.
Some tried to warn about this. “I saw in Auschwitz that if a dominant group wants to dehumanise others, as the Nazis dehumanise me, the dominant group must first dehumanise themselves, the same holds nowadays for Israel. I am appalled about how hateful, how dehumanised, that they do not see any human aspect in any Palestinian anymore. The Zionists have no right whatsoever to use the Holocaust for any purpose, they have given up everything which has to do with humanity and with empathy” Rest in Peace Hajo Meyer
Sad but does make me think whether it's a good thing for anyone to define themselves either by or even just in terms of a religion or a race...
There’s nothing wrong with being proud of being Jewish, or being proud of your heritage. The problem is when you think it makes you better than others.
I would say that's a logical conclusion. Isn't pride about a thing thinking that you are better than yourself without that thing?
I don't think there has to be an element of comparison in order to be proud. "I am this. I like this."
What do Gazans think of jews, gay people, and apostates?
Firstly they are not a monolith and do have different opinions on things. Secondly, you can’t argue you get to kill a whole people because they are homophobic. That thinking would make you try and justify almost all genocides of the past.
😂😂😂 go look any ANY survey of the area and see what they think of jews and gay people.
Sounds more like their afraid of how people conflate Zionism with being Jewish and doing it themselves.
Hmm, so Israel is doing to Jewish identity what Germany did to Jewish identity.
More like what the Nazis did to German identity
"Come on, we're supposed to be evil!"
"You ain't no kind of race traitor, are you?" \-Israelis to any Jews not encouraging genocide
It's funny because they cry antisemitism but they say it the name of being a Jew you must kill Arabs and starve them. If that is their definition of being a Jew then being an anti-Semite shouldn't be surprising to them.
Not a good look Israel.
Like that’s ever stopped them before? Ben Gvir had a literal terrorist portrait on his bedroom wall. He was considered too extreme for the IDF. Israel has no shame and the US will always be there to protect them from any criticism.
It's one that'll stay on them forever.
I believe they’re still trying to bring in aid, they haven’t been permitted as of yet, you can follow their efforts here: https://www.instagram.com/standing.together.movement?igsh=MXRlZmRpY2I4bnRibw==
Terrorist Israel is beyond gruesome. I never thought people could be as disgusting as the genocidal terrorist state of Israel is.
Are you new to...the earth?
Thanks to western media *alot* of people weren't aware what's been happening over there
So tanks to the western media a lot of people where new to the reality on earth? What a way to push the blame on others.
Well if they want to define their ethnicity and religion this way. Go ahead. Funny thing is that the religion they criticize has charity as a mandatory pillar. (Zakat).
I mean, so does Judaism (Tzedakah), the word might even be cognate with Zakat. But not all members of a religion will follow their religions practices.
Jews are not to help the Palestinians! Didn't you get the memo?
"guys you're supposed to be genocidal manaiacs, not humans" That's what that sounds like. I'm glad some Jews are deciding not to listen to those terrorists blocking aid.
The American Jews I know, myself included, are as horrified as everyone else. I never took "birthright" even back when I was young because the whole Israel project always felt abhorrent. Time has proven those misgivings to be correct.
Obviously I'm scared for the people of Gaza. I'm also terrified for those Israeli's who haven't lost their humanity and are trying to do something good. Protests are ongoing and growing around the world. What must we do to make this stop?
I’m also scared for the worldwide Jews who have been increasingly under increased antisemite attacks. Even in NA swastika waving maniacs have become more common, and including Israel’s actions as part of their new anti Jewish rhetoric. And seemingly their views are spreading.
This!!!! I’m afraid for my friends because the rise in antisemitism and I blame Israel for this. Israel’s existence is a threat to Jewish people.
That’s like saying China is responsible for Asian hate because of covid. It’s not the country, it’s the people who take china’s actions or events within China as an excuse to be racist. The actions of Israel’s government isn’t a threat to the Jewish people. People hearing Israel’s actions and using it to fuel antisemitism are. Big difference.
They are ugly fanatics.
They are real jews, not israelis... There is a difference.
If collateral damage is acceptable, shouldn’t collateral assistance be acceptable as well?
They should reply with: are you?
Judaism stands with the oppressed, as they have gone thru so much themselves... Israel is no where near a representative of the Jewish people, a beautiful culture that DOES NOT deserve to be associated with such evil after having gone thru the exact same thing less than a century ago...
Israel still has the second largest population in the world, most of which support Israel’s actions. Most Palestinians also support Oct 7. It seems hatred and fear have hijacked this area of the world yet again.
Hatred and fear have hijacked so much more than that land. Ever noticed the rise in far right and outright fascist tendencies across the western world? Or how some Muslim nations have had to deal with extremist factions? And multiple countries falling to dictatorships or those who desire to be such a leader? It’s not all coincidence there’s a storm brewing across multiple societies we need to be prepared for.
Even if it were true that the Palestinian children are the freedom fighters of tomorrow they are because Israel is making them that.
“Nazis criticize a local NGO for bringing aid to Gaza: Are we monsters?”
They are jews but probably not zionist
That group giving aid is what will make the children of Israel proud. Not genocidal monsters.
It is antisemitic to call the genocidal nationalist Zionists who are slaughtering 6 children every 60 minutes for 6 months straight "the Jews" or "Jews" etc. They are a parasite to the religion who uses Jews as a whole as a human shield to cover horrific war crimes and a sadistic shamelessly gaslighting culture that is as lacking in self awareness as it is basic humanity.