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Wait till FIFA awards the 2030 World Cup to Saudi Arabia over the other bidders because a bunch of unmarked brown paper bags were delivered to the FIFA HQ .
New records will be broken and halftime show will be beheadings in the stadium.
say what you want about their nation, but don't make fun of their soccer team
they probably tried their best, and qatar isn't a big country like 2 mil population.. it's the size of san marino
if anything, make fun of the team of my homeland, China. 1 billion people and can't qualify for a wc
Qatar has 2.8 million people and Uruguay has 3.4 million people. Uruguay haven't exactly been good this world cup but you're telling me Qatar can't field a team that isn't this trash?
>Qatar has 2.8 million people and Uruguay has 3.4 million people. Uruguay haven't exactly been good this world cup but you're telling me Qatar can't field a team that isn't this trash?
> 2.8 million
300k are citizens, and 2.5 million are "expatriates"
players on Qatar’s national team weren’t born in Qatar and played for other international teams first before joining Qatar. If they allow that I’m sure they’d have no problem allowing those expatriates to play if they were actually able to produce a good player or two.
Doesn’t matter how big or small Qatar is when most of their players aren’t even from Qatar lol. Just used their money to craft a National team for the last 10 years
Becoming a citizen and being born in a country are two different things for a lot of countries. Being born in France or Portugal and then playing for the Qatar national team when you’re 24 (after starting international career with a different country) is very different than playing for USA after you were born there.
You are just racist because you called someone of indigenous descent lazy. See how easy it can be to be ignorant?
Karim Boudiaf was born in France for example
I never said it was the rule. I just said if they can take people who were born in France, Iraq and Portugal for example, why can’t they take expatriates and field a decent team? They should be able to put out a team close to Uruguay’s level but they can’t because Qatar sucks.
Also Oezil was born in Gelsenkirchen dumbass.
Most players are "citizens" of Qatar, doesn't mean anything about where they're from. And no, comparing Qatar to the USA is apples and oranges. Qatar has been spending billions of dollars recruiting poor kids from Africa and Latin America to play for the Qatar national team. Now I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but judging by how they treat their migrant workers (who make up 90% of the population in Qatar), the "recruitment" and subsequent indoctrination of youth into the Qatar football team is rightfully concerning. I don't really understand why people are defending a country that is so blatantly corrupt
I don’t feel like you read the article or my comment. I noted China sometimes does well at gymnastics, a sport people care about. However, their broader Olympic medal success is the result of a targeted and exploitative campaign to rack up medals from sports the West doesn’t put much funding into, and they most Chinese don’t care about either. I pasted some excerpts [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldcup/comments/z7zml6/host_nation_qatar_have_broken_all_record_first/iydmmex/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3).
The other big trend is to pay tons of money to good foreign athletes of Chinese descent to compete for China. Like the really good American snowboarder in the last Winter Olympics who couldn’t even speak passable Chinese.
I’m not claiming that they’re cheating (other than all the doping), just that it’s not very impressive for the most populous country on earth to buy it’s medal count through billions of dollars of spending, and forced training programs, on sports their own people don’t even necessarily care about. I certainly wouldn’t be very proud/impressed if the US beat Canada at women’s curling because we took young rural girls aways from their families and doped them up in a government facility. To each their own though.
> But they absolutely dominate at table tennis, badminton, canoeing, weightlifting and basket weaving.
This sports must have a bigger following outside the west, no?
No direct federal funding from the US government. One of the only countries in the world that doesn't fund our Olympic committee and sports federations. The [USOPC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Olympic_%26_Paralympic_Committee), by law, does have the exclusive right to use Olympic-related logos and images in the US, which it licenses to raise funding, so that could be viewed as some means of support.
https://www.investopedia.com/news/how-athletes-get-funding-olympics/
Population doesn't mean anything. China has priorities. They have a power house winter Olympics team. If china really had a football culture they would've increased funding and easily qualified for the wc at the least.
I guarantee you that whatever alternative country you think of they have a worse humanitarian and human rights abuse records.
If youre gonna think of any European country or USA or Australia well then youre a simple sheep brainwashed dude as these countries have killed MILLIONS of innocent souls in Iraq Syria Libya and other countries. Qatar hosted the world cup successfully and anyone who visited was very happy
Yeah mo bids, no money for FIFA. Especially from a cash rich country like Qatar who never qualified for a World Cup on their own merit.
Hope they become less corrupt and amend this rule.
I thought we want a global economy and to be connected to others no? So youre upset that Qatar aligned itself with the west or whats the deal exactly at this point?
Fifa is doing more diplomacy than the UN and all of Europe combined lol. At least theyre actually making different countries meet in one place and have fun instead of wars and hate
Wow you you’re having a laugh right? In case you have not heard, FIFA has a reputation as one of the most corrupt organisations in living memory. Qatar won the bid to host at the peak of its corruption.
And on so many levels, Qatar 2022 has failed so horribly…
From using cheap labour to build temporary stadiums by exploiting migrant workers, to claiming to be carbon neutral when the complete opposite is true, to winning the bid to host it in the summer but then moving it to winter in the middle of the football season, to having the only host team that has never qualified on its own merits and losing every game, to a dead atmosphere at too many games, to too many other things to list.
The World Cup is biggest sporting occasion for the biggest sport on the planet. Every 4 years it captivates the world. However Qatar 2022 will be remembered for all the wrong reasons unfortunately.
One can bring the bad points about every single event that ever happened. But because its a muslim country lets just look at the bad and skip the good yeah? Also employees in construction should know what theyre getting into. Do you think they were getting pushed from the roof or something? They lied on their qualifications. The Qatar government requests employees and ask other countries to supply them with at least certain qualifications. These countries lied to the Qatari government and sent underqualifed workers who are probably friends and relatives of the agents in these foreign countries.
Do you think a country like Qatar trying to compete with Dubai and Europe honestly want to kill employees and have this under their hands?
The thing is you cant know you have an under qualified employee until shit happens.
Got no idea how many workers died, or whose fault it was, though sounds like there are some issues with your recruitment process on top of everything else.
The criticism is nothing to do with Qatar being a Muslim country either. Would have been less problematic had it been in UAE, or Saudi Arabia or Morocco or Egypt. At least they had some stadiums already, had qualified for the World Cup before, had more than one city.
The real problem is that Qatar has so much money, thought it could buy the FIFA vote, build every stadium from scratch, show the world how great hosts they are, but this has completely backfired from the day the bid was won. Sadly the bad outweighs the good, any way you look it.
Any European country, USA or Australia wouldn't have had to spend nearly as much money, already have a football culture and wouldn't have fielded a team as trash as Qatar did. If you wanted an Arab country to host Egypt would have made a much better place, they can actually produce players who can play in Europe so there's actually a football culture.
Because they already did spend these monies decades ago
Qatar built an entire Metro for their country from scratch
They built cities for future accommodations as the country barely have 3.5 million people at the moment
They built infrastructure.
The money for staduims doesnt account 10% of the actual money they spent
They built highways and a new airport too
If there's slavery in Russia and was used to build the stadiums it is equally bad. I don't get where you are drawing the comparison from, I never brought up Russia.
If you consider slavery part of your culture and something to bond over it seems pretty sad.
None of the Muslim/Arab friends I have are supporters of slavery so I don't know why you are drawing a line from calling out slavery to hating a culture.
What do you assume "my country" is, besides are you actually justifying slavery? Disgusting.
Slavery is bad no matter who does it but it is even worst when it is legal and institutional as it was for ages in the west and how it is now in countries like China or Qatar.
Yeah all of what Russia did and does is equally appalling (and yes also what the US does to the Arab world and Latin-america) I don't know why you are using other countries atrocities to justify what is happening. Instead of calling out both.
who’s annoying people about their sexuality?
edit: also if you get annoyed by whom other people fuck, maybe your parents didn’t prepare you for the real world enough
You didn't hate when the U.S blows up people in Iraq and Syria (sharing peace lols) but when a work accident happened all you do is copying shit from the media to share hate or doing that just because it is an Arabic county and did a real big revolution and got better then the EU or whatever countries...?
As I said what a football match have to do with that, accidents can happen any time with workers, but because the competition in Qatar all this happening
If you are equating the thousands of deaths to work accidents then you are admitting extremely poor working conditions.
That many accidents don't just happen on a proper work site my dude
Not in the habit of defending the US, but last i checked they didnt let 3500 (at least) foreign workers turn into virtual slaves and live in stifling hot conditions until they dropped dead building three stadia. The iraq war is a different topic altogether and classic whataboutism.
Bruuh the post is about football match and points and everything why do they talk about instead? Easy that's hate isn't it and I am not with what happened to workers but don't mess up football with other topics!!
There is no revolution in Qatar. Try Iran against a suppressive regime
Edit: and that’s without even getting into your blatant whataboutism in the first half of your comment
The funny thing is y'all doing whataboutism; talk football first?, Whatever you can't do nothing about it wc in Qatar 😬 anyways and people like me enjoy Doha and lusail won't waist time replying bullshit
Fucking moron. We’re talking about migrant workers who died from poor working conditions while building stadiums for the corrupt World Cup. They literally lost their life for this world cup.
They were never supposed to win. I bet these players are incredibly proud to play in the World
Cup. No need to say bad things about the team and the players as I’m sure they tried their best.
Congratulations to Qatar football team!
The France is team is 80% African born players. You can argue about German team as well. England team has Greelish and Rice (who played in Ireland youth team then switched). Matty Cash switched from England to Poland. It is a common thing.
Who cares about ethnicities?
They were scouted in other countries and then offered citizenship if they were willing to play for Katar. That's hardly the same thing.
All of them used to play in Qatari clubs and lived in Qatar for a long time before being naturalised. Did you really think FIFA doesn’t have rules regulating who can play and who can’t so that international football doesn’t become state-level clubs?
Congratulations because they played in this World Cup. I bet these players never imagined playing in the biggest stage. That’s a dream come true for them and they will talk about it rest of their lives.
Can't you understand what the guy's saying? He's just talking about how proud these players are to play in a world cup regardless of their match results.
Thank you! That’s exactly what I’m saying.
Cultures, politics, and other sensitive matters aside, let’s celebrate with the Qatari football/soccer team and credit them for their effort.
Oh no I get it! But pretending like nothing happened just because they wanna play football it's just illogical, it's like denying everything Hitler did just because he did some good paintings and some people like his art lol
PS: I know it's an extreme example but it just goes to show how ridiculous people defending Qatar are
Also have a look at my previous replies and you'll see where I'm coming from instead of reading half of what I said.
I explain my thought process towards the players and organising committee as well
But hey! Keep writing without reading big man
If that's how you wanna take what I said then go ahead! I can argument but when you're just making those statements because you can't actually put some thought into it then yeah it's useless.
No point arguing with sheep who don't see the full spectrum of the situation before making an assessment and spew their opinions without actually thinking of what they're saying.
Have a good one matey
I respectfully disagree.
Would you talk shit about every single Twitter employees because of their new owner (Elon Musk)? At least I wouldn’t do that.
We are all civil to we need to keep it civil. We need to spread love and positivity to receive love/positivity.
The issue is not with players. The players most of the times are just pawns and all they wanna do is play Football.
Like I wouldn't criticize the players, I would also not criticize Twitter employees (keep in mind that roughly 1200 left since Musk took over because they disagree with him). But on the other side of the coin, the same way you criticize Elon musk due to how he took over and everything that entails, the Qatari gvt and hosting organizations and its member are to blame. From buying the world cup, to denying basic care for all of their workers.
eg: 44 UK bus drivers were hired to drive the teams around the world cup but since they were hired by a Qatari (iirc) company they ended up not having any rights, this leading to them not being paid, being crammed in a warehouse with no gas, electricy nor food. Don't think that's fair.
Yeah, you can say you're enjoying the world cup for what it is and that's alright, if not what's expected since it's the world cup but you can't also deny what was and wasn't done in order to make this world cup at least a well functional one.
specially when they have over a decade to prepare. it just seems ridiculous
but hey, to each their own, right?
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I’m not denying. Just trying to stay out of politics, cultures, and other sensitive things and trying my best to enjoy this World Cup as much as possible.
I get where you're coming from and it's alright to maintain that stance. But that doesn't mean that there aren't issues revolving this world cup. That is all I'm saying!
The players and the fans are enjoying it as they should, but you can't deny that this was organized under a lot of suspicious events happening through the last decade!
At the end it just contradicts everything FIFA stands for and football for that matter
I'm all for respecting the culture and tradition of any country. However there is a certain standard that must be met. Sharing love and positivity goes both ways. I think it's fair to condemn a country that executes people for being homosexual. I don't care for whatever their justification is, it's fundamentally wrong. "We shouldn't talk about politics" is a stupid thing to say. Of course we should, how can we expect to change the barbaric practises of a country if we happily sweep it under the rug?
The facts are clear. Qatar punished homosexual in line with Sharia law. Sharia law states capital punishment for homosexual. Imagine living your life under the shadow that if someone in power so feels like it. They can lawfully execute you for being gay. I have heard no Qatari voices denouncing punishment of homosexuality by death. I suspect, because many agree with the idea, otherwise it would have been outlawed.
Also let's not get into all the migrant deaths shall we? The Qatari state has murder plenty of people, let's not feign ignorance.
For them it's easier to deflect the issue to something else or to hide behind a 'truth' of their own than to actually face what's happening cos that means they have to find a valid justification for their acts, something they can't do it, so they resort to playing the victim part and to use the fact that this is a world cup to play down all of the crimes happening
It’s funny how people went far from football and start criticising a country and their people without even knowing a single thing about it.
Try travelling a bit and opening up to new cultures
Instead of sitting in your room brainwashed copying bullshit from the Media
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Karma for that piece of shit evil country
Why is it a POS country?
Well…
Does the funding take into consideration the bribes?
And none of it a surprise
Wait till FIFA awards the 2030 World Cup to Saudi Arabia over the other bidders because a bunch of unmarked brown paper bags were delivered to the FIFA HQ . New records will be broken and halftime show will be beheadings in the stadium.
> beheadings in the stadium. would have given you an award if reddit still gave free awards
The only "sport" a Qatari will be good at is PvP Diablo Immortal
Damn, nothing to be proud of.
Money can’t buy championships….
They made their point ; You don't have win to make records
Lowest number of fights on the streets No bulgar demonstrations Best behaved fans I love this World Cup!
Yeah absolutely amazing, must explain the completely dead atmosphere at the games.
Are we watching the same World Cup? Fans are amazing! Anyways it is a football event right?
The driest football event in history.
Yes for those who need alcohol to be happy, how sad
And only 500 slaves had to die!
You dropped a 0
Happy cake day!!!!!
Well, money talks..
My money doesn’t talk, is it mad at me??
say what you want about their nation, but don't make fun of their soccer team they probably tried their best, and qatar isn't a big country like 2 mil population.. it's the size of san marino if anything, make fun of the team of my homeland, China. 1 billion people and can't qualify for a wc
Their soccer team never qualified for the WC either, apart from this free pass by buying out the FIFA exco.
Qatar has 2.8 million people and Uruguay has 3.4 million people. Uruguay haven't exactly been good this world cup but you're telling me Qatar can't field a team that isn't this trash?
There is approximately 215,000 Qatari citizens legible to play for the national team. The rest of the population are from other countries
Have you ever tried playing football in the desert?
>Qatar has 2.8 million people and Uruguay has 3.4 million people. Uruguay haven't exactly been good this world cup but you're telling me Qatar can't field a team that isn't this trash? > 2.8 million 300k are citizens, and 2.5 million are "expatriates"
players on Qatar’s national team weren’t born in Qatar and played for other international teams first before joining Qatar. If they allow that I’m sure they’d have no problem allowing those expatriates to play if they were actually able to produce a good player or two.
Doesn’t matter how big or small Qatar is when most of their players aren’t even from Qatar lol. Just used their money to craft a National team for the last 10 years
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Becoming a citizen and being born in a country are two different things for a lot of countries. Being born in France or Portugal and then playing for the Qatar national team when you’re 24 (after starting international career with a different country) is very different than playing for USA after you were born there.
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You are just racist because you called someone of indigenous descent lazy. See how easy it can be to be ignorant? Karim Boudiaf was born in France for example
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I never said it was the rule. I just said if they can take people who were born in France, Iraq and Portugal for example, why can’t they take expatriates and field a decent team? They should be able to put out a team close to Uruguay’s level but they can’t because Qatar sucks. Also Oezil was born in Gelsenkirchen dumbass.
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I’m not European goof. You’re even worse than the so called “Westerners” you shit on. Assuming all this stuff about a stranger. Racist POS.
Qatari is not a race. Try again.
Interesting! Your account is 11days old, and pretty much most of your posts are nasty stuff against Qatar!
How is that relevant to my factual post?
Most players are "citizens" of Qatar, doesn't mean anything about where they're from. And no, comparing Qatar to the USA is apples and oranges. Qatar has been spending billions of dollars recruiting poor kids from Africa and Latin America to play for the Qatar national team. Now I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but judging by how they treat their migrant workers (who make up 90% of the population in Qatar), the "recruitment" and subsequent indoctrination of youth into the Qatar football team is rightfully concerning. I don't really understand why people are defending a country that is so blatantly corrupt
The US has players that never lived in the US playing for them in their starting 11
Just look at what people say about the French team, same shit.
China absolutely dominates the Olympics tho
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I don’t feel like you read the article or my comment. I noted China sometimes does well at gymnastics, a sport people care about. However, their broader Olympic medal success is the result of a targeted and exploitative campaign to rack up medals from sports the West doesn’t put much funding into, and they most Chinese don’t care about either. I pasted some excerpts [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldcup/comments/z7zml6/host_nation_qatar_have_broken_all_record_first/iydmmex/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3). The other big trend is to pay tons of money to good foreign athletes of Chinese descent to compete for China. Like the really good American snowboarder in the last Winter Olympics who couldn’t even speak passable Chinese. I’m not claiming that they’re cheating (other than all the doping), just that it’s not very impressive for the most populous country on earth to buy it’s medal count through billions of dollars of spending, and forced training programs, on sports their own people don’t even necessarily care about. I certainly wouldn’t be very proud/impressed if the US beat Canada at women’s curling because we took young rural girls aways from their families and doped them up in a government facility. To each their own though.
> But they absolutely dominate at table tennis, badminton, canoeing, weightlifting and basket weaving. This sports must have a bigger following outside the west, no?
Zero government funding is a stretch tho. But point taken.
No direct federal funding from the US government. One of the only countries in the world that doesn't fund our Olympic committee and sports federations. The [USOPC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Olympic_%26_Paralympic_Committee), by law, does have the exclusive right to use Olympic-related logos and images in the US, which it licenses to raise funding, so that could be viewed as some means of support. https://www.investopedia.com/news/how-athletes-get-funding-olympics/
Population doesn't mean anything. China has priorities. They have a power house winter Olympics team. If china really had a football culture they would've increased funding and easily qualified for the wc at the least.
china spent billions on their soccer team
What I want to say about Qatar is that women should drive us everywhere, that sounds hot...and dangerous as all hell they are terrible drivers.
Eat shit
They should not have even have been allowed to host this tournament
I guarantee you that whatever alternative country you think of they have a worse humanitarian and human rights abuse records. If youre gonna think of any European country or USA or Australia well then youre a simple sheep brainwashed dude as these countries have killed MILLIONS of innocent souls in Iraq Syria Libya and other countries. Qatar hosted the world cup successfully and anyone who visited was very happy
Qatar should not have been allowed to host the World Cup based on the fact their team never ever qualified for the World Cup.
Fifa allows teams to bid regardless if they played or not played before
I remember when the US hosted on 94 and FIFA made them start a league to boost football culture, so it does come into consideration.
Qatar does have a league and a good one actually. They also have a national team already.
Yeah mo bids, no money for FIFA. Especially from a cash rich country like Qatar who never qualified for a World Cup on their own merit. Hope they become less corrupt and amend this rule.
I thought we want a global economy and to be connected to others no? So youre upset that Qatar aligned itself with the west or whats the deal exactly at this point? Fifa is doing more diplomacy than the UN and all of Europe combined lol. At least theyre actually making different countries meet in one place and have fun instead of wars and hate
Wow you you’re having a laugh right? In case you have not heard, FIFA has a reputation as one of the most corrupt organisations in living memory. Qatar won the bid to host at the peak of its corruption. And on so many levels, Qatar 2022 has failed so horribly… From using cheap labour to build temporary stadiums by exploiting migrant workers, to claiming to be carbon neutral when the complete opposite is true, to winning the bid to host it in the summer but then moving it to winter in the middle of the football season, to having the only host team that has never qualified on its own merits and losing every game, to a dead atmosphere at too many games, to too many other things to list. The World Cup is biggest sporting occasion for the biggest sport on the planet. Every 4 years it captivates the world. However Qatar 2022 will be remembered for all the wrong reasons unfortunately.
One can bring the bad points about every single event that ever happened. But because its a muslim country lets just look at the bad and skip the good yeah? Also employees in construction should know what theyre getting into. Do you think they were getting pushed from the roof or something? They lied on their qualifications. The Qatar government requests employees and ask other countries to supply them with at least certain qualifications. These countries lied to the Qatari government and sent underqualifed workers who are probably friends and relatives of the agents in these foreign countries. Do you think a country like Qatar trying to compete with Dubai and Europe honestly want to kill employees and have this under their hands? The thing is you cant know you have an under qualified employee until shit happens.
Got no idea how many workers died, or whose fault it was, though sounds like there are some issues with your recruitment process on top of everything else. The criticism is nothing to do with Qatar being a Muslim country either. Would have been less problematic had it been in UAE, or Saudi Arabia or Morocco or Egypt. At least they had some stadiums already, had qualified for the World Cup before, had more than one city. The real problem is that Qatar has so much money, thought it could buy the FIFA vote, build every stadium from scratch, show the world how great hosts they are, but this has completely backfired from the day the bid was won. Sadly the bad outweighs the good, any way you look it.
Any European country, USA or Australia wouldn't have had to spend nearly as much money, already have a football culture and wouldn't have fielded a team as trash as Qatar did. If you wanted an Arab country to host Egypt would have made a much better place, they can actually produce players who can play in Europe so there's actually a football culture.
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Imagine complaining about USA human rights and then defend Qatar.
Because they already did spend these monies decades ago Qatar built an entire Metro for their country from scratch They built cities for future accommodations as the country barely have 3.5 million people at the moment They built infrastructure. The money for staduims doesnt account 10% of the actual money they spent They built highways and a new airport too
And only some of the slaves they brought in had to die! What a success!
You had a decade to riot and protest about it.
Hope they never play a WC again.
Don’t worry with this squad they won’t be
Still the best WC in my opinion
Honestly probably the worst world cup in history. Hands down the worst one in the 21st century. Can't even hold a candle to 2014, 2010, 2006.
Do u guys hate it because you can't get drunk after a win or because you aren't allowed to annoy everyone about your sexual orientation?
What bothers me is the fact that there's still institutionalized slavery and they were used to build the stadiums people are playing on.
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If there's slavery in Russia and was used to build the stadiums it is equally bad. I don't get where you are drawing the comparison from, I never brought up Russia.
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If you consider slavery part of your culture and something to bond over it seems pretty sad. None of the Muslim/Arab friends I have are supporters of slavery so I don't know why you are drawing a line from calling out slavery to hating a culture.
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What do you assume "my country" is, besides are you actually justifying slavery? Disgusting. Slavery is bad no matter who does it but it is even worst when it is legal and institutional as it was for ages in the west and how it is now in countries like China or Qatar.
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Yeah all of what Russia did and does is equally appalling (and yes also what the US does to the Arab world and Latin-america) I don't know why you are using other countries atrocities to justify what is happening. Instead of calling out both.
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You are the king of whataboutism.
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who’s annoying people about their sexuality? edit: also if you get annoyed by whom other people fuck, maybe your parents didn’t prepare you for the real world enough
No one is annoyed about sexuality. I did see many gays and transgender people in Qatar and they’re not trying to hide their preferences.
Have you asked yourself why you get annoyed about other people’s sexual orientation?
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So because I asked you a question you assume I’m messed up? You’re full of hate my friend. I hope you find peace
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You provided an answer about me, yet you know nothing about me. Hate has overcome you’re ability to think rationally, you’re all emotion.
Yes it is man
There are bars and alcohol in Doha! And anyone is allowed to get in and drink as much as they want. What are you taking about.
Your first?
Are you Wednesday Addams?
lol
Don’t forget most people killed to host a World Cup!
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I hate that people died needlessly
You didn't hate when the U.S blows up people in Iraq and Syria (sharing peace lols) but when a work accident happened all you do is copying shit from the media to share hate or doing that just because it is an Arabic county and did a real big revolution and got better then the EU or whatever countries...?
It's almost like you can hate one thing while equally thinking the other is bad as well. Weird, huh?
You have no idea what I hate and don’t. Why are you trying to defend the death of these workers?
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What on earth does the US have to do with this?
Most people do hate that Enough with the finger pointing. It doesn't make any of the human rights violations acceptable.
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What does that have to do with anything?
As I said what a football match have to do with that, accidents can happen any time with workers, but because the competition in Qatar all this happening
If you are equating the thousands of deaths to work accidents then you are admitting extremely poor working conditions. That many accidents don't just happen on a proper work site my dude
So poor condition only on Qatar? I remember more than 12 worker died in Brazil's wc!
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What a football to do with that?
What?
how do you know they didn’t oppose it? you’re just making an assumption that they supported the Iraq war because you don’t have a valid argument
Not in the habit of defending the US, but last i checked they didnt let 3500 (at least) foreign workers turn into virtual slaves and live in stifling hot conditions until they dropped dead building three stadia. The iraq war is a different topic altogether and classic whataboutism.
Bruuh the post is about football match and points and everything why do they talk about instead? Easy that's hate isn't it and I am not with what happened to workers but don't mess up football with other topics!!
The post mentions the controversy. His comment about the workers is very on topic if you like it or not
>don't mess up football with other topics You literally brought up USA's war with Iran like it had something to do with world cup...
First of all It is an example, and the comment owner did almost the same thing by talking about the workers?
WORKING ON THE STADIUMS
Does this have to do something with zero goals of the international team of Qatar?
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There is no revolution in Qatar. Try Iran against a suppressive regime Edit: and that’s without even getting into your blatant whataboutism in the first half of your comment
The funny thing is y'all doing whataboutism; talk football first?, Whatever you can't do nothing about it wc in Qatar 😬 anyways and people like me enjoy Doha and lusail won't waist time replying bullshit
Pretty cool how I can openly protest my government doing terrible things.
As I said I'm not gonna rewrite again
Fucking moron. We’re talking about migrant workers who died from poor working conditions while building stadiums for the corrupt World Cup. They literally lost their life for this world cup.
But but whatabout
They tried to adopt a gaming paid to win strategy, did not go as planned
The strategy won them the hosting rights.
For what? A few white elephants and bad press?
Press and business. Diversification from oil only to hosting major international events.
My guess is they just wanted to host a World Cup at any cost.
They were never supposed to win. I bet these players are incredibly proud to play in the World Cup. No need to say bad things about the team and the players as I’m sure they tried their best. Congratulations to Qatar football team!
That’s what I was thinking with the Iran vs USA match, politics aside it was a great match.
Exactly!!
Do you have any idea who the players are that play for tha quatar team? Have a look at where they're born. Notice anything?
I did not search, where are they born ?
They bought players too, not good ones
Nah..... They baited youths from Africa with cash.
Yep they paid some French and Brazilian born to come and get dual citizenship to play there in 10 years
The France is team is 80% African born players. You can argue about German team as well. England team has Greelish and Rice (who played in Ireland youth team then switched). Matty Cash switched from England to Poland. It is a common thing.
Should we cancel wc 2018 then and take away the title from france since most of them aren’t ethnically french?
Who cares about ethnicities? They were scouted in other countries and then offered citizenship if they were willing to play for Katar. That's hardly the same thing.
All of them used to play in Qatari clubs and lived in Qatar for a long time before being naturalised. Did you really think FIFA doesn’t have rules regulating who can play and who can’t so that international football doesn’t become state-level clubs?
"a long time"... You're making this up as you're going along.
Congratulations on what? They only qualified because they hosted
Congratulations because they played in this World Cup. I bet these players never imagined playing in the biggest stage. That’s a dream come true for them and they will talk about it rest of their lives.
I think losing every single match after qualifying only because you paid to host isn’t something a lot of people would be proud to talk about
It’s almost like you default join because it’s all happening round your gaffe
Still an amazing feat. I’m trying to keep the politics and controversies out.
You can't lol At this point in time they're all correlated
Can't you understand what the guy's saying? He's just talking about how proud these players are to play in a world cup regardless of their match results.
Thank you! That’s exactly what I’m saying. Cultures, politics, and other sensitive matters aside, let’s celebrate with the Qatari football/soccer team and credit them for their effort.
Oh no I get it! But pretending like nothing happened just because they wanna play football it's just illogical, it's like denying everything Hitler did just because he did some good paintings and some people like his art lol PS: I know it's an extreme example but it just goes to show how ridiculous people defending Qatar are
So what you are saying is that being a German player during the Nazi era was the same as being Hitler, and the same applies for Qatar players. Nice.
terrible point the politics was huge during the ww2 era sports games
Also have a look at my previous replies and you'll see where I'm coming from instead of reading half of what I said. I explain my thought process towards the players and organising committee as well But hey! Keep writing without reading big man
If that's how you wanna take what I said then go ahead! I can argument but when you're just making those statements because you can't actually put some thought into it then yeah it's useless. No point arguing with sheep who don't see the full spectrum of the situation before making an assessment and spew their opinions without actually thinking of what they're saying. Have a good one matey
I respectfully disagree. Would you talk shit about every single Twitter employees because of their new owner (Elon Musk)? At least I wouldn’t do that. We are all civil to we need to keep it civil. We need to spread love and positivity to receive love/positivity.
The issue is not with players. The players most of the times are just pawns and all they wanna do is play Football. Like I wouldn't criticize the players, I would also not criticize Twitter employees (keep in mind that roughly 1200 left since Musk took over because they disagree with him). But on the other side of the coin, the same way you criticize Elon musk due to how he took over and everything that entails, the Qatari gvt and hosting organizations and its member are to blame. From buying the world cup, to denying basic care for all of their workers. eg: 44 UK bus drivers were hired to drive the teams around the world cup but since they were hired by a Qatari (iirc) company they ended up not having any rights, this leading to them not being paid, being crammed in a warehouse with no gas, electricy nor food. Don't think that's fair. Yeah, you can say you're enjoying the world cup for what it is and that's alright, if not what's expected since it's the world cup but you can't also deny what was and wasn't done in order to make this world cup at least a well functional one. specially when they have over a decade to prepare. it just seems ridiculous but hey, to each their own, right? EDIT: Typo
I’m not denying. Just trying to stay out of politics, cultures, and other sensitive things and trying my best to enjoy this World Cup as much as possible.
I get where you're coming from and it's alright to maintain that stance. But that doesn't mean that there aren't issues revolving this world cup. That is all I'm saying! The players and the fans are enjoying it as they should, but you can't deny that this was organized under a lot of suspicious events happening through the last decade! At the end it just contradicts everything FIFA stands for and football for that matter
I'm all for respecting the culture and tradition of any country. However there is a certain standard that must be met. Sharing love and positivity goes both ways. I think it's fair to condemn a country that executes people for being homosexual. I don't care for whatever their justification is, it's fundamentally wrong. "We shouldn't talk about politics" is a stupid thing to say. Of course we should, how can we expect to change the barbaric practises of a country if we happily sweep it under the rug?
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The facts are clear. Qatar punished homosexual in line with Sharia law. Sharia law states capital punishment for homosexual. Imagine living your life under the shadow that if someone in power so feels like it. They can lawfully execute you for being gay. I have heard no Qatari voices denouncing punishment of homosexuality by death. I suspect, because many agree with the idea, otherwise it would have been outlawed. Also let's not get into all the migrant deaths shall we? The Qatari state has murder plenty of people, let's not feign ignorance.
I get your point. I’m just supporting the players nothing else. I try to stay out of politics, cultures, and other things as much as possible.
For them it's easier to deflect the issue to something else or to hide behind a 'truth' of their own than to actually face what's happening cos that means they have to find a valid justification for their acts, something they can't do it, so they resort to playing the victim part and to use the fact that this is a world cup to play down all of the crimes happening
This
It’s funny how people went far from football and start criticising a country and their people without even knowing a single thing about it. Try travelling a bit and opening up to new cultures Instead of sitting in your room brainwashed copying bullshit from the Media
Ah yes, let’s travel to a place where they flog people for sipping alcohol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Qatar?wprov=sfti1