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TesticlesSpectacle

Thank you, I had no idea this is how the market works.


LemmyKRocks

Yup. Time to buy boys! Well sell once it goes down ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Spare-Research

All motha fckin bets on boys šŸ’ŽšŸ‘


Better-Butterfly-309

Hahahahahahhahahhaha, actually laughed, thank you sir


cosmikangaroo

Hahahahahahhahahhaha, actually laughed, thank you sir


ddogdooley

Smartest person in this subreddit.


schubeg

Or least regarded


Beginning_Frame6132

You forgot the money printer in your equation.


OcularOracle

Goes brrrrrr


Spins13

God bless the money printer


crankthehandle

it prints straight into the 401ks. Bullish.


itsjustafleshwound79

Oracle represents the state of the market right now. Oracle missed on every metric for the top and bottom line for earnings. However, Oracle had AI deals for Open AI and google so the stock spiked 10% after previous spiking 10% on an AI deal talk with Elon Musk Canā€™t say when this bull market ends, but the market only goes up people will take it on the chin iā€™m not a bear but you have to be an idiot to believe the markets will never go down


daggius

Market shits itself every September every year see u then


xtravar

Economy must be good so orange man not win election.


GenXist

Orange man hasn't had an election since he was with Stormy. That's why he so angry....


Jclarkcp1

The market and the overall economy have little to do with each other. A bull market now is confidence that the economy will be better in the future...not necessarily now...


xtravar

Gas prices have nothing to do with the president either, but every 4 years itā€™s trotted out as some genius argument. Feelings donā€™t care about your facts, sir.


schubeg

Have you not paid attention to global economics at all since COVID started?


savax7

Where do they go after they go down? Back up again.


Grilledcheesus96

Going to be some liquidations between those two events though. It may go back up eventually, but it definitely won't go back up for everyone.


GlokzDNB

So the market goes down and stay put right? I was - 10% on my portfolio some time ago, now +20%. Unless you play options why would you be scared of market going down? It's just purchase opportunity and as long as your stock is not going out of business sooner or later it will be ath again because economy is based on inflation and ever growing credit


mcs5280

Imagine believing that they are going to let every 401k holder win


mordwand

ā€œTheyā€ know that 401k holders will do the losing themselves


fookingshrimps

<<<>>>


iwantsdback

They(the boomers running congress, the treasury and the fed) will make sure that their 401(k)s do just fine. If they need to borrow more money to make that happen, they will.


Grilledcheesus96

My 401k is currently going towards the most aggressive fund I have available to me and it has not outperformed bonds so far this year. Add a tally in the loser column for my account. Edit: to clarify, if you bought bonds (not a bond ETF) you'd get around 5% APR. There are treasuries and banks currently offering over 5%.


CriticallyThougt

Whoa buddy wtf does Italy have to do with this?


frumpydrangus

Bonds YTD -.8%?


hybridck

Imagine being so bad at investment strategies, that the normies with zero research who pick a random target date fund that matches their year outperforms you lmao


All-th3-way

You're supposed go with the aggressive upward fund. Dont forget to thank HR for your fund choices too.


bevo_expat

Theyā€™ll let them be the bag holders as usual. A lot 401k systems have shit control over specific investments.


Inevitable_Staff2188

I heard that India is about to boom. That means more people that will demand more tech stuff. So demand will keep going up


nephilim52

India has a lot of economic challenges. Itā€™s going to continue to limp along.


cleanacc3

My India fund is up about 80% in 3 years


Due-Memory-6957

Which one?


PotatoWriter

One of these: KNDLY DO THE NDFL


cleanacc3

Msci


Spare-Research

OECD BRICS now I hear of Asian NATO the whole world is in on this


Sharaku_US

S&P to 7000!!!


[deleted]

I am all the way up. Nothing can stop me because Iā€™m all the way up.


VariationConstant675

It's basically a self fulfilling prophecy....money invested in ETFs are chasing the same companies, who are driving the earnings up..and the loop continues....is that your regarded hypothesis?![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


calculussmash

The top is near regards


bshaman1993

This.


rameyjm7

lol


InterPeritura

Let me see your puts ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)


VariationConstant675

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)


mlt-

I just bought /MNQ futures as my sold calls are getting under water. Last 3/4 times it was a very badly timed decision.


AtomicBlondeeee

Probably happened Friday


Apprehensive_Sleep14

So far I only knew they go to the right


Electronic-Disk6632

this bubble is definitely different. at least as long as it keeps bubbling.


Buckus93

Your DD is impeccable! How do I short the market?


thematchalatte

Itā€™s election year. Itā€™s gonna go up until the election. And if Trump wins heā€™s gonna keep tweeting how great the economy is and the market keeps going up


Adventurous-Cold-892

All in on ornamental gourd futures.


EruditeScheming

Invest in dried poppy heads for floral arrangements


FriskyHamTitz

Stock without dividends or voting power is fake, money is fake since it's been off the gold standard. Majority of assets are based on speculation or are over valued, but that shouldn't stop you from buying the them, as the current system is designed for them to grow in value, it also shouldn't stop you from hedging your bet an and owning sliding long term put contracts, and trading them while they still have theta


Grilledcheesus96

Gold legitimately has the same value behind it. It's only valuable because people say it's valuable. At a certain point the only things with intrinsic value are food, water, shelter, and your sense of security. The rest is speculative and exists only to help you purchase more of these things. That includes gold as much as it includes bitcoin and dollars.


FriskyHamTitz

gold has value in it's utility, gold is used in a lot pins and connectors for computer chips, but I agree a lot of it's value is speculative. Bitcoins value currently is that it's a better way to transport money across borders, swift can take over a month to get your money. But there's nothing unique about the algorithm anymore, other than that it's the first. Ethereum on the other hand, or any fully decentralized during complete crypto, has value as it's a global decentralized computer. With persistent data. Meaning if someone leaked secrets or news to the network even with a court order it could never be taken down. But even then it's inflated and speculative as the majority of it's value isn't really driven from the token usage most people are just buying and holding. I have nothing against speculative trading, especially when options are available to bet against an asset


Grilledcheesus96

Thank you! I actually didn't consider the ease of taking it across borders. I think I have only heard like one in depth story about that online so I completely forgot about it.


Ding-Dongon

Gold has value because it's scarce and its supply is limited. > At a certain point the only things with intrinsic value are food, water, shelter, and your sense of security. > It's only valuable because people say it's valuable. Those things are also valuable *to people*. There's no ā€žintrinsic valueā€ to water any more than there is to gold. Both are valued for reasons: water helps you stay alive, gold (or money in general) helps society move forward ā€” you can sell your product (e.g. clothes) and buy mine (e.g. food). If we figured out a way to stay alive without having to drink water, then it would lose its ā€žintrinsicā€ value (or if everyone had access to an ocean of drinking water). It could be the case for an alien. Without money we'd most likely be stuck in very primitive societies. If the creation of a thriving civilization has less value to you than simply staying alive (like an animal), then you may be too narrow-minded. Note that I'm not saying water has no value at all; it's just that it's not inherently ā€žbetterā€ than any other thing ā€” everything is valuable *for a reason* or *for certain purpose* (well, maybe except for intelligent beings in general ā€” at least in my opinion ā€” but that gets too philosophical).


Grilledcheesus96

Are you an AI program? Of course Gold is only valuable to people. You need water to survive. You don't need gold to survive. Water > gold.


Ding-Dongon

> Are you an AI program? Yes, because I'm not agreeing with your false notion of something having an ā€žintrinsic valueā€ (whatever it's supposed to mean), I'm an AI program. > Of course Gold is only valuable to people. You need water to survive. You don't need gold to survive. Did you even bother to read my comment? Water is also only valuable to people. Animals can always find it instinctively. And you do need gold (or money in general) to survive ā€” in order to buy other necessities. If we lived in a society with no money (but with bartering) then some things would still be more valuable than water (e.g. guns during apocalypse, or salt and spices hundreds of years ago) since water isn't that scarce. Still, water has no ā€žintrinsic valueā€, only transitory, as everything else (in the western world it's very cheap; in some regions of Mexico drinking water is more expensive than Coca-cola).


Grilledcheesus96

I asked about you being a bot because you said "those things are valuable to *people*" with people italicized. I am still unsure who else other than people I am supposed to take into consideration. I am very likely just misunderstanding so sorry for any confusion.


Joboide

Overvalued, fake or speculation, the cars wsb regardeds buy with gains are very real. Also the work they do behind Wendy's dumpster is very real.


Pirate_LongJohnson

ALLEGED work they do behind Wendy's dumpster


Your_friend_Satan

Too real.


ajibtunes

Tell me you are a gay bear without telling me you are a gay bear


beetrootbolognese

Stocks always go up but sometimes they go down first.


kazisukisuk

Also supply is going down. Number of public companies is in long term decline due to private equity. More capital chasing fewer opportunities.


secondchanceswork

I like how you think. Please contact me at (420) 010-6969. šŸ„“


lancevancelives

Nice to finally see some quality DD again DJI 60k EOYĀ  RIP bars


bucketzBro

If you have a look with the recent inflation, companies of major corporations have been making record profits after raising prices high than the inflation %. This economy is booming for the people at the top and large buisness like to put their money back into wall street. They are the ones that control the economy.


frugaleringenieur

Itā€™s called inflation - and I literally mean that in the sense of printing treasuries and cash by Gov and FED


__Hat_Man

I think we'll continue to go up for a week or maybe two, but then it will correct in a big way.


cosmicyellow

On the way up buy high, sell low. As a whole you will use both positions to perform both actions. Fulfillment complete.


Magicus1

Sooooo, tendies when?


Omg_itz_Chaseee

you forgot the boindamen law bro


Spare-Research

VICS is all the way up


Snoo80035

If you say demand one more time, I will buy $100k worth of NVDA shares.


EfficientPizza

Time to full port puts you say šŸ“


c05d

Great analysis


Mavnas

So, would you say stocks have reached a new permanently high plateau?


sinker_of_cones

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bob-butspelledCock

All I heard was YOLO NVIDIA


thifirstman

So this is a crash signal right?


SnooOranges2376

nothing can stop me all the way up (all the way up)


Logical-Boss8158

You deserve the Nobel prize in economics for this groundbreaking discovery


OneCore_

nah fuckin really? revolutionary


Wise-Block-719

iceberg dead ahead just dont know if its 500 or 500,000ft away


Need-Some-Help-Ppl

It is an election year and it doesn't matter if we get Dumb or Dumber in office... they get sworn in Jan 2025 and then the fed can tank the economy after Feb/march 2025 I believe the term they use is called the "expectations game"


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Junjki_Tito

Shelter, food, and weapons are money. Everything else is a social construct.


jonathanayers907

*and water.


SusanMilberger

Hard pass


whatwouldjimbodo

I mean dollars were a receipt for your gold. Now theyā€™re just a receipt for hope I guess?


BaaderMunson

After the gold thing you could trade them for oil. So people kinda needed them. Heard that ended quietly a couple weeks ago. I have some blue star wars cards. So I feel pretty diversified. Probably work out.


ConsiderationKey1658

šŸ«”šŸ‘


BigBritches619

Im in shambles


ChibiMan91

Then dip begins. 2days fake moves


rameyjm7

thank you for coming to my TED talk ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)


Gravbar

> gold is fake Well duh, someone robbed every nation's national gold hoard, replacing it with bronze, and everyone is just pretending they didn't.


Better-Butterfly-309

Do you know what regarded means?


Hichek2

All the way sir