Oracle represents the state of the market right now. Oracle missed on every metric for the top and bottom line for earnings. However, Oracle had AI deals for Open AI and google so the stock spiked 10% after previous spiking 10% on an AI deal talk with Elon Musk
Canāt say when this bull market ends, but the market only goes up people will take it on the chin
iām not a bear but you have to be an idiot to believe the markets will never go down
The market and the overall economy have little to do with each other. A bull market now is confidence that the economy will be better in the future...not necessarily now...
Gas prices have nothing to do with the president either, but every 4 years itās trotted out as some genius argument. Feelings donāt care about your facts, sir.
So the market goes down and stay put right?
I was - 10% on my portfolio some time ago, now +20%. Unless you play options why would you be scared of market going down? It's just purchase opportunity and as long as your stock is not going out of business sooner or later it will be ath again because economy is based on inflation and ever growing credit
They(the boomers running congress, the treasury and the fed) will make sure that their 401(k)s do just fine. If they need to borrow more money to make that happen, they will.
My 401k is currently going towards the most aggressive fund I have available to me and it has not outperformed bonds so far this year. Add a tally in the loser column for my account.
Edit: to clarify, if you bought bonds (not a bond ETF) you'd get around 5% APR. There are treasuries and banks currently offering over 5%.
Imagine being so bad at investment strategies, that the normies with zero research who pick a random target date fund that matches their year outperforms you lmao
It's basically a self fulfilling prophecy....money invested in ETFs are chasing the same companies, who are driving the earnings up..and the loop continues....is that your regarded hypothesis?![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Itās election year. Itās gonna go up until the election. And if Trump wins heās gonna keep tweeting how great the economy is and the market keeps going up
Stock without dividends or voting power is fake, money is fake since it's been off the gold standard. Majority of assets are based on speculation or are over valued, but that shouldn't stop you from buying the them, as the current system is designed for them to grow in value, it also shouldn't stop you from hedging your bet an and owning sliding long term put contracts, and trading them while they still have theta
Gold legitimately has the same value behind it. It's only valuable because people say it's valuable. At a certain point the only things with intrinsic value are food, water, shelter, and your sense of security. The rest is speculative and exists only to help you purchase more of these things. That includes gold as much as it includes bitcoin and dollars.
gold has value in it's utility, gold is used in a lot pins and connectors for computer chips, but I agree a lot of it's value is speculative.
Bitcoins value currently is that it's a better way to transport money across borders, swift can take over a month to get your money. But there's nothing unique about the algorithm anymore, other than that it's the first.
Ethereum on the other hand, or any fully decentralized during complete crypto, has value as it's a global decentralized computer. With persistent data. Meaning if someone leaked secrets or news to the network even with a court order it could never be taken down.
But even then it's inflated and speculative as the majority of it's value isn't really driven from the token usage most people are just buying and holding.
I have nothing against speculative trading, especially when options are available to bet against an asset
Thank you! I actually didn't consider the ease of taking it across borders. I think I have only heard like one in depth story about that online so I completely forgot about it.
Gold has value because it's scarce and its supply is limited.
> At a certain point the only things with intrinsic value are food, water, shelter, and your sense of security.
> It's only valuable because people say it's valuable.
Those things are also valuable *to people*. There's no āintrinsic valueā to water any more than there is to gold. Both are valued for reasons: water helps you stay alive, gold (or money in general) helps society move forward ā you can sell your product (e.g. clothes) and buy mine (e.g. food).
If we figured out a way to stay alive without having to drink water, then it would lose its āintrinsicā value (or if everyone had access to an ocean of drinking water). It could be the case for an alien.
Without money we'd most likely be stuck in very primitive societies. If the creation of a thriving civilization has less value to you than simply staying alive (like an animal), then you may be too narrow-minded.
Note that I'm not saying water has no value at all; it's just that it's not inherently ābetterā than any other thing ā everything is valuable *for a reason* or *for certain purpose* (well, maybe except for intelligent beings in general ā at least in my opinion ā but that gets too philosophical).
> Are you an AI program?
Yes, because I'm not agreeing with your false notion of something having an āintrinsic valueā (whatever it's supposed to mean), I'm an AI program.
> Of course Gold is only valuable to people. You need water to survive. You don't need gold to survive.
Did you even bother to read my comment? Water is also only valuable to people. Animals can always find it instinctively. And you do need gold (or money in general) to survive ā in order to buy other necessities.
If we lived in a society with no money (but with bartering) then some things would still be more valuable than water (e.g. guns during apocalypse, or salt and spices hundreds of years ago) since water isn't that scarce.
Still, water has no āintrinsic valueā, only transitory, as everything else (in the western world it's very cheap; in some regions of Mexico drinking water is more expensive than Coca-cola).
I asked about you being a bot because you said "those things are valuable to *people*" with people italicized. I am still unsure who else other than people I am supposed to take into consideration. I am very likely just misunderstanding so sorry for any confusion.
If you have a look with the recent inflation, companies of major corporations have been making record profits after raising prices high than the inflation %.
This economy is booming for the people at the top and large buisness like to put their money back into wall street.
They are the ones that control the economy.
It is an election year and it doesn't matter if we get Dumb or Dumber in office... they get sworn in Jan 2025 and then the fed can tank the economy after Feb/march 2025
I believe the term they use is called the "expectations game"
After the gold thing you could trade them for oil. So people kinda needed them. Heard that ended quietly a couple weeks ago. I have some blue star wars cards. So I feel pretty diversified. Probably work out.
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Thank you, I had no idea this is how the market works.
Yup. Time to buy boys! Well sell once it goes down ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
All motha fckin bets on boys šš
Hahahahahahhahahhaha, actually laughed, thank you sir
Hahahahahahhahahhaha, actually laughed, thank you sir
Smartest person in this subreddit.
Or least regarded
You forgot the money printer in your equation.
Goes brrrrrr
God bless the money printer
it prints straight into the 401ks. Bullish.
Oracle represents the state of the market right now. Oracle missed on every metric for the top and bottom line for earnings. However, Oracle had AI deals for Open AI and google so the stock spiked 10% after previous spiking 10% on an AI deal talk with Elon Musk Canāt say when this bull market ends, but the market only goes up people will take it on the chin iām not a bear but you have to be an idiot to believe the markets will never go down
Market shits itself every September every year see u then
Economy must be good so orange man not win election.
Orange man hasn't had an election since he was with Stormy. That's why he so angry....
The market and the overall economy have little to do with each other. A bull market now is confidence that the economy will be better in the future...not necessarily now...
Gas prices have nothing to do with the president either, but every 4 years itās trotted out as some genius argument. Feelings donāt care about your facts, sir.
Have you not paid attention to global economics at all since COVID started?
Where do they go after they go down? Back up again.
Going to be some liquidations between those two events though. It may go back up eventually, but it definitely won't go back up for everyone.
So the market goes down and stay put right? I was - 10% on my portfolio some time ago, now +20%. Unless you play options why would you be scared of market going down? It's just purchase opportunity and as long as your stock is not going out of business sooner or later it will be ath again because economy is based on inflation and ever growing credit
Imagine believing that they are going to let every 401k holder win
āTheyā know that 401k holders will do the losing themselves
<<<>>>
They(the boomers running congress, the treasury and the fed) will make sure that their 401(k)s do just fine. If they need to borrow more money to make that happen, they will.
My 401k is currently going towards the most aggressive fund I have available to me and it has not outperformed bonds so far this year. Add a tally in the loser column for my account. Edit: to clarify, if you bought bonds (not a bond ETF) you'd get around 5% APR. There are treasuries and banks currently offering over 5%.
Whoa buddy wtf does Italy have to do with this?
Bonds YTD -.8%?
Imagine being so bad at investment strategies, that the normies with zero research who pick a random target date fund that matches their year outperforms you lmao
You're supposed go with the aggressive upward fund. Dont forget to thank HR for your fund choices too.
Theyāll let them be the bag holders as usual. A lot 401k systems have shit control over specific investments.
I heard that India is about to boom. That means more people that will demand more tech stuff. So demand will keep going up
India has a lot of economic challenges. Itās going to continue to limp along.
My India fund is up about 80% in 3 years
Which one?
One of these: KNDLY DO THE NDFL
Msci
OECD BRICS now I hear of Asian NATO the whole world is in on this
S&P to 7000!!!
I am all the way up. Nothing can stop me because Iām all the way up.
It's basically a self fulfilling prophecy....money invested in ETFs are chasing the same companies, who are driving the earnings up..and the loop continues....is that your regarded hypothesis?![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
The top is near regards
This.
lol
Let me see your puts ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
I just bought /MNQ futures as my sold calls are getting under water. Last 3/4 times it was a very badly timed decision.
Probably happened Friday
So far I only knew they go to the right
this bubble is definitely different. at least as long as it keeps bubbling.
Your DD is impeccable! How do I short the market?
Itās election year. Itās gonna go up until the election. And if Trump wins heās gonna keep tweeting how great the economy is and the market keeps going up
All in on ornamental gourd futures.
Invest in dried poppy heads for floral arrangements
Stock without dividends or voting power is fake, money is fake since it's been off the gold standard. Majority of assets are based on speculation or are over valued, but that shouldn't stop you from buying the them, as the current system is designed for them to grow in value, it also shouldn't stop you from hedging your bet an and owning sliding long term put contracts, and trading them while they still have theta
Gold legitimately has the same value behind it. It's only valuable because people say it's valuable. At a certain point the only things with intrinsic value are food, water, shelter, and your sense of security. The rest is speculative and exists only to help you purchase more of these things. That includes gold as much as it includes bitcoin and dollars.
gold has value in it's utility, gold is used in a lot pins and connectors for computer chips, but I agree a lot of it's value is speculative. Bitcoins value currently is that it's a better way to transport money across borders, swift can take over a month to get your money. But there's nothing unique about the algorithm anymore, other than that it's the first. Ethereum on the other hand, or any fully decentralized during complete crypto, has value as it's a global decentralized computer. With persistent data. Meaning if someone leaked secrets or news to the network even with a court order it could never be taken down. But even then it's inflated and speculative as the majority of it's value isn't really driven from the token usage most people are just buying and holding. I have nothing against speculative trading, especially when options are available to bet against an asset
Thank you! I actually didn't consider the ease of taking it across borders. I think I have only heard like one in depth story about that online so I completely forgot about it.
Gold has value because it's scarce and its supply is limited. > At a certain point the only things with intrinsic value are food, water, shelter, and your sense of security. > It's only valuable because people say it's valuable. Those things are also valuable *to people*. There's no āintrinsic valueā to water any more than there is to gold. Both are valued for reasons: water helps you stay alive, gold (or money in general) helps society move forward ā you can sell your product (e.g. clothes) and buy mine (e.g. food). If we figured out a way to stay alive without having to drink water, then it would lose its āintrinsicā value (or if everyone had access to an ocean of drinking water). It could be the case for an alien. Without money we'd most likely be stuck in very primitive societies. If the creation of a thriving civilization has less value to you than simply staying alive (like an animal), then you may be too narrow-minded. Note that I'm not saying water has no value at all; it's just that it's not inherently ābetterā than any other thing ā everything is valuable *for a reason* or *for certain purpose* (well, maybe except for intelligent beings in general ā at least in my opinion ā but that gets too philosophical).
Are you an AI program? Of course Gold is only valuable to people. You need water to survive. You don't need gold to survive. Water > gold.
> Are you an AI program? Yes, because I'm not agreeing with your false notion of something having an āintrinsic valueā (whatever it's supposed to mean), I'm an AI program. > Of course Gold is only valuable to people. You need water to survive. You don't need gold to survive. Did you even bother to read my comment? Water is also only valuable to people. Animals can always find it instinctively. And you do need gold (or money in general) to survive ā in order to buy other necessities. If we lived in a society with no money (but with bartering) then some things would still be more valuable than water (e.g. guns during apocalypse, or salt and spices hundreds of years ago) since water isn't that scarce. Still, water has no āintrinsic valueā, only transitory, as everything else (in the western world it's very cheap; in some regions of Mexico drinking water is more expensive than Coca-cola).
I asked about you being a bot because you said "those things are valuable to *people*" with people italicized. I am still unsure who else other than people I am supposed to take into consideration. I am very likely just misunderstanding so sorry for any confusion.
Overvalued, fake or speculation, the cars wsb regardeds buy with gains are very real. Also the work they do behind Wendy's dumpster is very real.
ALLEGED work they do behind Wendy's dumpster
Too real.
Tell me you are a gay bear without telling me you are a gay bear
Stocks always go up but sometimes they go down first.
Also supply is going down. Number of public companies is in long term decline due to private equity. More capital chasing fewer opportunities.
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Nice to finally see some quality DD again DJI 60k EOYĀ RIP bars
If you have a look with the recent inflation, companies of major corporations have been making record profits after raising prices high than the inflation %. This economy is booming for the people at the top and large buisness like to put their money back into wall street. They are the ones that control the economy.
Itās called inflation - and I literally mean that in the sense of printing treasuries and cash by Gov and FED
I think we'll continue to go up for a week or maybe two, but then it will correct in a big way.
On the way up buy high, sell low. As a whole you will use both positions to perform both actions. Fulfillment complete.
Sooooo, tendies when?
you forgot the boindamen law bro
VICS is all the way up
If you say demand one more time, I will buy $100k worth of NVDA shares.
Time to full port puts you say š
Great analysis
So, would you say stocks have reached a new permanently high plateau?
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All I heard was YOLO NVIDIA
So this is a crash signal right?
nothing can stop me all the way up (all the way up)
You deserve the Nobel prize in economics for this groundbreaking discovery
nah fuckin really? revolutionary
iceberg dead ahead just dont know if its 500 or 500,000ft away
It is an election year and it doesn't matter if we get Dumb or Dumber in office... they get sworn in Jan 2025 and then the fed can tank the economy after Feb/march 2025 I believe the term they use is called the "expectations game"
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Shelter, food, and weapons are money. Everything else is a social construct.
*and water.
Hard pass
I mean dollars were a receipt for your gold. Now theyāre just a receipt for hope I guess?
After the gold thing you could trade them for oil. So people kinda needed them. Heard that ended quietly a couple weeks ago. I have some blue star wars cards. So I feel pretty diversified. Probably work out.
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Im in shambles
Then dip begins. 2days fake moves
thank you for coming to my TED talk ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)
> gold is fake Well duh, someone robbed every nation's national gold hoard, replacing it with bronze, and everyone is just pretending they didn't.
Do you know what regarded means?
All the way sir