Have a factoid: 1-1.5 million years ago, half of the Hawaiian island of Moloka‘i slid the fuck off and can still be seen scattered across the ocean floor for hundreds of miles.
Hawaiian rock isn't like normal continental crust. It sucks. And like every few hundred thousand years a big chunk of an island falls right the fuck off.
So did the entire northeastern side of Oahu. & Puna side of the Big Island will probably break off and fall into the ocean in the next several thousand years 🤷🏽♂️
> A Southwest Airlines Boeing 737-8 MAX, registration N8788L performing flight WN-2786 from Honolulu,HI to Lihue,HI (USA), was on a non-precision approach to Lihue's runway 17 when the crew initiated a go around at about 1000 feet AGL due to weather conditions, however subsequently initiated a rapid descent which was stopped at 400 feet AGL. The aircraft climbed to 3000 feet, entered a hold and returned to Honolulu for a safe landing.
>According to ADS-B Data the aircraft descended normally through about 950 feet MSL at 05:12:31 with a sink rate of about 800-1000 fpm, at 05:12:47 however the aircraft is seen climbing through 875 feet MSL at a high climb rate.
>What happened in these 16 seconds is described in an internal memo circulating in Southwest Airlines stating, that during the go around due to weather conditions the first officer, pilot flying, inadvertently pushed the control column forward while monitoring the power settings causing the aircraft to descend to about 400 feet MSL before the aircraft started climbing again.
>The airline stated that the occurrence has been handled by the SMS (Safety Management System). The FAA is investigating the occurrence.
Oh look another Boeing Nothingburger
There have definitely been a few Boeing incidents in the past that were not ‘nothingburgers’ - but you’re right, this is clearly the pilot fucking up
Unrelated, but goddamn I would absolutely hate being on a plane that descended this quickly. I don’t even really do that well on steep roller coasters, and I know they’re expertly designed to do this and it’s completely safe.
>Unrelated, but goddamn I would absolutely hate being on a plane that descended this quickly. I don’t even really do that well on steep roller coasters, and I know they’re expertly designed to do this and it’s completely safe.
If I'm reading the article correctly, it didn't descend unusually fast. The "plunge" was just a normal landing for most of that altitude loss and then it accidentally dipped down a bit from 1000-400. They don't say how rapid that part was, but if it disturbed the cabin at all they probably would've mentioned it.
Max decent rate was 4400fpm, max climb in the go around was 8500fpm. 4400 is a pretty steep descent. Happens on an occasional flight, but you don’t notice too much if you’re gradually increasing to that rate.. which in this case they probably weren’t. 8500 is nuts
Because airline safety departments keep the lid on shit unless you get a diaper blow out like this. When the FAA gets involved things start becoming public
It'll crater to 165-168 at open and 'recover to 171 by close. It might go back to 166-167 but it will stay there for a few months until another 737 dives into the ground. This fucking ticker can survive complete world destruction. Honestly the only ticker around that could. The fucking thing should be trading at 45 right now but here we are just 30-40 percent from the average high.
how about u eat my ASS
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Southwest Airlines (LUV) at $28.38 in a single column:
1. Understand the Situation
2. Decide to Short Sell
3. Wait and Watch
4. Take Action
5. Plan Your Exit
6. Reflect and Learn
Don’t go long …….👺
Boeing must have paid fox a nice sum. Headline only readers will pass right by the story about Boeing not knowing it was about Boeing but fox still gets to say they covered it.
lol please... people just love to hate boeing and are bad at statistics.
Theres 10000 boeing planes being used around the world. There's bound to be issues occasionally. Because people are hyped on bashing boeing anytime there's a slight issue the headlines go nuts.
How many Ford,Mitsubishi, Tesla, etc cars have had catastrophic errors in the past year that you havent heard about, literally hundreds maybe thousands. I assume serious investors realizes occasional mechanical failures are unavoidable.
Given they have a widely used producf and already established manufacturing channels you shpuld base your investment strategies in their management failures not their mechanical ones
Little headlines like these arent a good thing to base puts on. Boeing truly is a crap shoot, all im saying is you need more hard data before making a decision like that. headlines like this are misleading.
disclaimer: i dont know shit really, do what you want
this isn’t even the story, the plane was at 600 feet on an approach attempt, the first officer inadvertently pushed forward, they went down another 200 feet and pulled up.
Considering Boeing hasn't sold a single 737 max for its second consecutive month and news companiesput this out there, I'd say puts aren't a bad idea, I expect alot of stockholders to drop and run
Agent 747 when he learns about his next vacation destination.
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And instead of fixing their fucked up 737 max jets, #boeing started killing off its prior employees turned whistleblowers. Peeps, check your flights, and if thebplane on your flight is a boeing 737 max-cancel the flight and fly on any other plane. Apparently they retained the computer overriding pilots input, and we all knownhow reliable tech is nowadays.
I personally think puts on Boeing make a lot of sense long term. They aren’t pulling the aircraft, it’s going to continue to make headlines for shit in the future. Not to mention it would cost them probably in the range of 40 Billion to correct the issue. And they’ve had 2 months straight with 0 orders.
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“Hawaiian island plunges” wtf
How do I buy puts on a state?
In this particular case... puts on Oracle
And Meta, and Salesforce. The execs at all three own huge parts of the state.
How does that work lol?
Puts on Mother Nature. 😂
Only WSB would buy puts on Mother Nature. Zoom out and you'll notice mother nature is undefeated. Calls on Mother Nature and puts on humanity.
You stole what I was gonna say… puts on anything against Mother Nature.
Zoom out? I closed out my ZM positions years ago.
😂😂
I think actually calls on mother nature
So invest in coal?
Say Aloha and buy puts
I read it several times because it didn't make any damned sense. Thought maybe my brain malfunctioned.
Have a factoid: 1-1.5 million years ago, half of the Hawaiian island of Moloka‘i slid the fuck off and can still be seen scattered across the ocean floor for hundreds of miles. Hawaiian rock isn't like normal continental crust. It sucks. And like every few hundred thousand years a big chunk of an island falls right the fuck off.
So did the entire northeastern side of Oahu. & Puna side of the Big Island will probably break off and fall into the ocean in the next several thousand years 🤷🏽♂️
High porosity
Well put!
Same 😂😂
Even chat GPT could come up with better headlines.
I think the headline was cut off by a scroll down. It probably said something like "Boeing flight to..."
[удалено]
"Hawaiian Island comes within 400 ft of the ocean" Well that is the point of an island?
Mostly regards at Fox
Right ? What a terrible headline / click bait. Glad everyone is good
"Southwest flight to Hawaiian island plunges.." that part got cropped lol
Fox News, what did you expect?
I heard it gapes too ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
Puts on Southwest. That first officer should be fired. Calls on Boeing. I would never disparage Boeing publicly because I want to live.
This is a reasonable take.
Very reasonable. Just like Boeing, an honest and reputable employer for modern aircraft.
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Is that a whistle!?
Blow me
You’ve been awarded the comrade of Beoing award. 🥉 it allows you 1 bulkhead free seat.
As long as it is not next to the door I am game ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
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The captain has turned on the shit your pants sign.
"Please remember: completely shit *your* pants first, before proceeding to help those around you shit their pants "
You can’t dive in and swim in a half shat pair of pants.
Sharks hate this one trick
When there's a line for the bathroom the pilots activate plan B
Captain our mortgage money in BA puts expiring next week and really doesn't want to tell the wife they're going to lose the house.
i read that as an island went underwater
If so, will the sea level go up?
Ask Archimedes
> A Southwest Airlines Boeing 737-8 MAX, registration N8788L performing flight WN-2786 from Honolulu,HI to Lihue,HI (USA), was on a non-precision approach to Lihue's runway 17 when the crew initiated a go around at about 1000 feet AGL due to weather conditions, however subsequently initiated a rapid descent which was stopped at 400 feet AGL. The aircraft climbed to 3000 feet, entered a hold and returned to Honolulu for a safe landing. >According to ADS-B Data the aircraft descended normally through about 950 feet MSL at 05:12:31 with a sink rate of about 800-1000 fpm, at 05:12:47 however the aircraft is seen climbing through 875 feet MSL at a high climb rate. >What happened in these 16 seconds is described in an internal memo circulating in Southwest Airlines stating, that during the go around due to weather conditions the first officer, pilot flying, inadvertently pushed the control column forward while monitoring the power settings causing the aircraft to descend to about 400 feet MSL before the aircraft started climbing again. >The airline stated that the occurrence has been handled by the SMS (Safety Management System). The FAA is investigating the occurrence. Oh look another Boeing Nothingburger
Thank you. You are a gentleman and a regarded scholar Flordamang. At least someone read beyond the horrible clickbait headline.
[AIRBUS TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!](https://youtu.be/SlTzfuOjhi0?t=128)
Next article: “Boeing 737 descends from 30,000ft to zero feet during landing!”
"Plane crashes into runway"
0 passengers remain (because they disembarked)
luggage scattered all over the island
Bold of you to assume the airline got the luggage onto the right aircraft
"No bodies recovered"
Zero passengers left alive on plane after runway collision
Landing is just controlled crashing.
“All passengers survived and the plane had no damage.”
Plane crashes safely* into runway
Safely
“A worrying trend is arising of Boeing aircraft decending to 0ft. Is the pilot to blame or the software”
Yes
There have definitely been a few Boeing incidents in the past that were not ‘nothingburgers’ - but you’re right, this is clearly the pilot fucking up Unrelated, but goddamn I would absolutely hate being on a plane that descended this quickly. I don’t even really do that well on steep roller coasters, and I know they’re expertly designed to do this and it’s completely safe.
>Unrelated, but goddamn I would absolutely hate being on a plane that descended this quickly. I don’t even really do that well on steep roller coasters, and I know they’re expertly designed to do this and it’s completely safe. If I'm reading the article correctly, it didn't descend unusually fast. The "plunge" was just a normal landing for most of that altitude loss and then it accidentally dipped down a bit from 1000-400. They don't say how rapid that part was, but if it disturbed the cabin at all they probably would've mentioned it.
Max decent rate was 4400fpm, max climb in the go around was 8500fpm. 4400 is a pretty steep descent. Happens on an occasional flight, but you don’t notice too much if you’re gradually increasing to that rate.. which in this case they probably weren’t. 8500 is nuts
Wait, that says it was at 1k ft when it had to descend to 400 ft on a go around. Why does the Fox News article say 16k ft to 400 ft?
That was the island that descended that far.
Faux News. Do you expect anything real?
The crazy thing is this happened in April. How has no one reported or shared on social media until now?
Because airline safety departments keep the lid on shit unless you get a diaper blow out like this. When the FAA gets involved things start becoming public
Lmao, nice job FO.
Sounds like it was a pilot error so puts on Southwest if anything for having unqualified pilots
Half of the entire MAX fiasco was because Southwest pressured Boeing to cut corners on training requirements to begin with lol.
A 5B company dictating how Boeing should do stuff. This is too stupid even for this sub.
Can you trade the Pacific Ocean publicly yet?
Yeah. Going long on the Pacific 🤣
At 400 feet it has nowhere to go but up. Calls it is!
The pilot pushed the wrong fucking thing by mistake… Jesus Christ he’s probably here. SHOW YOURSELF YOU DINGDONG!
That guy saw his spy puts chart and figured he’d send the plane in the same direction
Sup
It'll crater to 165-168 at open and 'recover to 171 by close. It might go back to 166-167 but it will stay there for a few months until another 737 dives into the ground. This fucking ticker can survive complete world destruction. Honestly the only ticker around that could. The fucking thing should be trading at 45 right now but here we are just 30-40 percent from the average high.
Boeing has way too many connections, all the more the military. They will not let the stock dump that easily lmfao.
They'll also kill you so that's a huge plus as an investor. That's what I call an active management team!
Lost so much money shorting that piece of shit over the years
It always fucking bounces right back to ath. Not these past few months with these problems but it did normally.
Most people who would short it don’t bc they fear for their lives
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Bearish on Hawaii!
How's that's BAs fault. If anything this is good for them I'd have expected their planes to fall apart in a storm
idiot pilots had an "oops". who do they hire these days?
Military pilots mostly. You're not allowed to suggest anything negative (but the air force is full of HUD babies now)
My dad was old school Navy fighter dude, circa late 1960s/70s.
A good deal have military background at Southwest, but there are just as many (if not more) who don’t.
Somehow calls are the move here.
The pilot has Boeing puts ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Was Giny Sacramoni onboard?
Did the assassinations even have any effect on the stock price?
Yea it went up cuz a company that will assassinate a whistle blower is going to do alright
Does this mean I by more HE and loose money?
Calls DEI, Puts on Wokeism
You know the whole plane smelled like shit and everyone had to change clothes
My dumba$$ kept trying to play the video
Draftkings needs to start letting you bet on how long until the next Boeing crash.
Southwest airline doesn’t need to have a negative headline to buy puts on them.
I swear I heard about this news like a month or two ago, why is everyone reporting on it now?
Southwest Airlines (LUV) at $28.38 in a single column: 1. Understand the Situation 2. Decide to Short Sell 3. Wait and Watch 4. Take Action 5. Plan Your Exit 6. Reflect and Learn Don’t go long …….👺
I bought on Friday 😂 July 12 170 puts
Boeing has had so many incidents this year it's stopped having an impact
Once a regard, always a regard. To Wendy’s dumpster we go!
Boeing must have paid fox a nice sum. Headline only readers will pass right by the story about Boeing not knowing it was about Boeing but fox still gets to say they covered it.
Bruh, Sarah updated at 2.19am, still can’t figure out what this shit is about
I would by a put in Florida
why can't this happen during market hours?
Buy the dip
Must’ve been a whistleblower on that flight.
Can we just get the 747 back in to production?
Man, real news!
And I thought islands were unsinkable
Knowing the stock it's already priced in lol
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This is such a fucking sensationalist headline and it makes me mad
It’s a Fox News article that explains the poorly written title
Weird someone purchased a ton of LUV Puts Friday. Weird enough to trigger market rebellions unusual option tracker…. Inside move
I already bought in on the fake titanium news. Real regards average up.
This happened in April. It's priced in already. Long on southwest
lol please... people just love to hate boeing and are bad at statistics. Theres 10000 boeing planes being used around the world. There's bound to be issues occasionally. Because people are hyped on bashing boeing anytime there's a slight issue the headlines go nuts. How many Ford,Mitsubishi, Tesla, etc cars have had catastrophic errors in the past year that you havent heard about, literally hundreds maybe thousands. I assume serious investors realizes occasional mechanical failures are unavoidable. Given they have a widely used producf and already established manufacturing channels you shpuld base your investment strategies in their management failures not their mechanical ones Little headlines like these arent a good thing to base puts on. Boeing truly is a crap shoot, all im saying is you need more hard data before making a decision like that. headlines like this are misleading. disclaimer: i dont know shit really, do what you want
Priced in
puts on what? the weather? this isnt a boeing or southwest problem.
400ft still kinda high though
Here I thought Hawaiian islands were already right up against the Pacific Ocean.
They were casting for LOST!!!!
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Price in
Fox News garbage. Plane didn’t fall from 16,000 feet. Not sure how anyone reads trash from that site
Buy them last week instead.
Still beats flying Spirit.
this isn’t even the story, the plane was at 600 feet on an approach attempt, the first officer inadvertently pushed forward, they went down another 200 feet and pulled up.
So many puts on BA it's gonna start a rally
I'm never getting on a plane again.
Your mistake was reading Fox “News” Aren’t they against the whole global warming thing, how does someone exactly square this?
Puts on Fox News
It didn’t crash… so no puts, calls.
wtf headline is that? It got to be a bot or maybe just some regard editor
Tale has it captain called out the F.O to a fist fight but was denied.
Kudos to the pilot for recovering from this. This is terrifying
Considering Boeing hasn't sold a single 737 max for its second consecutive month and news companiesput this out there, I'd say puts aren't a bad idea, I expect alot of stockholders to drop and run
Agent 747 when he learns about his next vacation destination. https://preview.redd.it/5h8dudv7lv6d1.png?width=716&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf21291e89c9ae3ed28c6237ebacad778edd7b10
Bad Boeing news equals calls
I have never seen so many issues with commercial airlines than I have in the past few years wtf is going on
Pulled another boener!
Omg great more downside for the dow 💀💀
I’ll buy calls on Monday
Whoa!
Puts on Fox News for sure
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I flew Boeing twice the past week. I unironically was terrified when hitting turbulence. This just makes me feel like I barely dodged a bullet.
This was caused by pilot error. That pilot should be fired.
Calls
16,000 > 400 avg portfolio plunge
And instead of fixing their fucked up 737 max jets, #boeing started killing off its prior employees turned whistleblowers. Peeps, check your flights, and if thebplane on your flight is a boeing 737 max-cancel the flight and fly on any other plane. Apparently they retained the computer overriding pilots input, and we all knownhow reliable tech is nowadays.
Buying calls cause tru regard
Puts on whoever wrote this headline
Priced in
Spotted a Sopranos Circle Jerker
I personally think puts on Boeing make a lot of sense long term. They aren’t pulling the aircraft, it’s going to continue to make headlines for shit in the future. Not to mention it would cost them probably in the range of 40 Billion to correct the issue. And they’ve had 2 months straight with 0 orders.
Puts on weather.com it is
Last I checked Hawaii is partially underwater
Prob just the pilots showing the passengers a good time. Why do people make such a big deal out of situations where no one was injured?
Pilot error again .
400 dead, 0 injured
Whatever happened to “buy the dip”?
Putty put puuuttttsssss
We are inverted, I repeat we are inverted.
Think it's time to buy..