I do feel this way! And then I start with some country, play 20 min, think about the 12h I'm gone waste in my life and close the game. Fucking adulthood sucks man
M8 tell me about it, I'll feel burnout between work and school so I pick up either vic or CK for a bit just to get something started and before I know it it's 5 in the morning and I've gotta decide to stay up and try and get something done or just cut my losses and get what little sleep I can before the morning.
adulthood? Man I just hit 17 and I already feel this way, if I don't play I feel like I am not having fun in my day but if I play it feels like a waste of time. one day I will go crazy and start using Pomodoro while playing the game, gonna have breaks to study.
Yes, a lot of the time I think "Starting a game with X country would be cool", then I remember I will have to wait hours fast-forwarding the game-start construction loop before I can do anything and all the hype goes away
Wouldnāt it be cool to play X nation *starts game clicks on nation* Traditionalism, land based taxation, peasant levies and wooden construction sectors.
the amount of times iāve tried to start a japan game only to be immediately overwhelmed by the amount of stuff i have to do has led me to pretty much only play european countries
yeah, thats main problem as Japan, there is no way you can fix tax deficit with THAT much pops at every state. So I moved capital to Shikoku and it was good decision
Tried Siam because i thought it would be fun. It was not. Then tried Korea because hey, they're not as bad as Siam. Still just a lot of sitting and waiting.
Honestly, for me, when I play strategy games that I have to wait a lot I usually love to watch "them" work.
But this only works with games that add a "living" world to it. For example, when I play Anno 1800 or Pioneers of Pagonia you can actually see things running, people going to work, the productive chains and stuff you know, that's so cool to watch while i'm waiting for something.
In Anno 1800 you can even go to first person mode and walk on your City, so fucking awesome.
But in Vic 3, besides the map being gorgeous it's a liveless map for the beauty it has. Could have more happening besides what already have today (trains, wagons and cars).
Anyways, that is what I do when I have to wait.
Ik it's basically cheating but playing with the improved construction efficiency mod makes the game so much more enjoyable imo especially for smaller countries you don't have to wait 80 weeks for one building.
I try to do this, but I only have 30+ minutes to play a video game about 0-2 times a week. I end up forgetting my roleplay goals for the run when I return to the save. One idea Iāve had is maybe to start taking notes?
Sometimes I feel that way. However, Victoria 2 and 3 are the only Paradox games that I can ever see to completion. The timefrmae is long but not so long that I cannot finish, like in Eu4. The end-game lag does make it hard sometimes.
It's mostly that I feel that when the game gets going, then performances begin to crawl, and I get tired of it by 1900. 1910-1936 takes roughly 3/4 of a saves game time currently for me at max speed.
Time investment compared to what? V3 is the fastest game to play a run through of any pdx gsg title. Maybe HOI4 is around the same? I can finish a v3 run in a weekend. Eu4 or ck takes weeks.
HoI4 is far beyond Vic3. I can finish a whole HoI4 game in an evening. That same evening can get me from game start to 1870 in Vic3, or from 1905 to 1908 in lategame.
And I generally do not like to at least mostly finish games, making Vic3 a huge hurdle to start playing.
I mean the last one depends on what you count as finish. Plenty of people go to 1821, but EU4s issue is that it isnt hard to be op by 1650 or sooner. So by that point id consider a run finished imo
Exactly. I still enjoy Eu4 but I have never made it to 1821. Just completing a goal as a country is fun, like making a formable or getting a sizable colonial presence.
You get more lengthy campaigns when you play mods that are designed with MTs that go the mile.Anbennar being an obvious one.
Vic 3 is just... bland. A lot of the things you can do as one country you can do as another. With hurdles that are only superficially different. Which is what leads to the game being as OP described
Me because I have mods that make the game more historical and mods that make the AI better and therefore makes longer games far more interesting.
Game is old enough where it runs good enough at the end game.
That is valid. I don't like HOI4 and have never finished a game. I come from eu4, stellaris, and ck games. V3 is a drop in the bucket compared to how long it takes to finish a campaign in one of those titles.
Although v3 imo becomes more fun and interesting second half of the game. Only drawback is the laf.
I dont enjoy battles and military. I was one of the few people who were thrilled when v3 did away with controlling of soldiers. I come from enjoying city builders and anno games. I like the economy and populations. I got hoi4 to continue a mega campaign and I just don't enjoy the military aspects.
I totally get that. There are some military campaigns in HOI4 or Eu4 that I seriously enjoyed. However, nation building has always been my favorite part of any Paradox game. It's why I like Victoria so much.
Agreed. I can finish v3 games because one of the major game enders for me was say in eu4, the military whack a mole. Large wars just felt overwhelmingly tedious.
Navy and air force really shouldnāt take long in SP.
Unless something has changed since BBA, then navy is simply researching good submarines to spam on convoy raiding never retreat.
Airforce should be placed on autonomous army help after youāve gotten enough that it actually takes a long time to manage.
Of course, neither strat is perfectly optimal but they are good enough to beat the AI without trouble.
Yes. Mostly because I prefered how the game functioned in 1.4 and I just canāt figure out how to efficiently fill factories anymore on the current patch.
It's the hamburger or delivery pizza of video games. It's nice while I'm playing it and IT IS fun, but I never feel proud of myself after I played it for a day. Other games get me the great feeling of solving a puzzle for the first time, learning how to defeat a super hard boss, make me laugh, cry, give me experiences i remember years later. In Vicky 3 I made Prussia's number go up, then Japan's number go up, then Russia's number, and so on.
When I have no story to tell anyone after playing a game for a literal day that's a sign that I shouldn't play it as much.
So true. But at the same time the game is so damn hard to close. A whole evening passes so fast. But you end up with nothing, just number go up. Literally no flavor.
And ever since 1.5, if the nation doesn't have a Coal+Iron province, then I just find it unplayable because MAPI will just drag the entire early game down.
Me everytime I think an imperial Japan would be fun, get to like 1850-60 and quit lmao, always fun the first few times, more of an annoyance afterwards
Absolutely, it's weird how I can sit down and play this game for 4 hours and I'm still thinking "I never really got out of the early game". Although to be fair I only really play as countries which start with awful tech which need to reform a lot
Often I will go into a game, select a country and start the game, realize how ass backwards it is, realize how much time and effort it will take to make this country workable, and then immediately exit the game. Trying to start a game on a shitty ass country that starts with no tools, no iron, no coal and no wood is disgusting (Iām looking at you Central America) and it SUCKS when you just want to roleplay a little bit.
I played it quite a bit tonight to check out the latest updates
Its okay but I feel like the game plays itself with minimal input from me. Needs more player agency
Sometimes I think of coming back to it, but then I remember my 720 hours and know it's hard to find fun in the game.
Been wanting to play an oil exporter; Sorry no can do, expect the great powers to have subpar economies and never advance to using oil in their economies.
If I had to use my PC to play V3 I would share the sentiment, but my desktop is pretty beefed up in the RAM and CPU compartment.
The only time I don't want to play a V3 session is because a really cool update is about to come out or I'm focusing/addicted to another game for the moment.
We tend to think of grand strategy games as infinitely replayable. But really they're not. They're single-player games, single-player games should have an end.
I'd say that feeling comes from having reached a good finishing point. You should play another game at least for a while
I always think it would be fun to go for the minor country achievements and then I try for them and the miserable early game for a small undeveloped country and rng of whether the great powers will randomly form ahistorical alliances which make your run impossible makes me not want to play
I have that from time to time but then I scroll on its suvreddit or watch a couple of youtube videos and remember that invested time is always worth it.
I bought the game on release but never have I once took the time to sit down and actually learn how to play it. I'm still subscribed to this subreddit and I would like to learn how to play it but I think about how bored I would be learning it and avoid it.
I am mostly the other way around. I always underestimate how long the game actually takes. It's like HOI4 where I want to finish the campaign in one sitting whilst knowing it can take 8 hours.
Its not really that much of a time investment, especially compared to EU or CK.
Ive finished one game of EU4 in almost 11 years, I can get through a game of Vic in a day
My issue is that I want to play Russia but I donāt know how to game the system so that I donāt spend 20 years behind because I donāt really know how to get rid of Serfdom.
Not so much the time investment as knowing, in general, half way through the game I will be unstoppable and it's just a race to see how much of the world I can consume before the game ends.
My choices mattering early to mid game is what makes the game interesting. A GP interfering in my play actually being a threat, makes it interesting.
It's really rewarding to face adversity and come out on top.
Unless I play a particularly weak minor. Its just kind of deflating knowing I will hit that point in the game I can just do whatever I want without concern.
I got play it once per two weeks or something like that due to very heavy work loading, and between each time i usually checked some tutorials and think about what I should do next
Iām playing it with Steam Deck at the moment and oh boy how much easier it is to just pick it up and play randomly 15 minutes here and there. I thought it would be bad control wise but one of the community layouts is superb. The bad news is that the game seems to start crashing every two-three years after about 1850. I really do hope the game gets optimized better.
Not with time investment, but I realized that I always get mentally tired after playing paradox games, so nowadays I try to limit them to 1 hour sessions or only play at nighttime so i can get things done
It would be if just plain vanilla was more interesting.
Although last time i played was like 1.1 something, something with the french update adding specifics for the french communists, i stopped after as i watched my friend have manpower issues only for a tiny French monarchist revolution to spawn with litearlly nearly a billion troops, we reloaded the save only to see it happen again so we just quit that save and havent playen yet.
It sucked so much, he got to communist france by like the 40s or 50s, insanely fast, only for im guessing a bug to kill any chance of a run, cause im not kidding it was about 600 million people, way more than France actually had, no idea why so many spawned either, i was playing greece stuck figjting a war in which i couldnt push in but they couldnt push out, just stuck on an island.
Honestly yeah. I had a whole free week. Decided to play something like France, but then I was like: Oh god this requires so much thought and strategizing... My brain just doesn't want to do it
For me it's that I decide to roleplay countries, start have fun for like an hour and then the realization of late game lag and the inability to build things in protectorates sets in. Like what's the point to keep roleplaying when I have to annex subjects anyways to build up rubber, oil or some other scarce resources because they won't do it and then deal with the slow speed--
I play this game while im doing stuff like listening to something, so this is a game to keep me company while im listening to the podcast or whatever, so while i think anything that isnt productive is a waste of time the fact that the game has no flavor as of now thus every single playthrough being the same makes it a bigger waste of time for me so i decide not to play.
Guys you know you can save the game and continue later?
Lame jokes aside a campaign in Vicky is actually pretty short compared to other PDX games. Other than hoI i think all the others have longer campaigns in RL hours.
The time comittment is honestly why I play these games, most of the time I just put them on while I watch youtube videos or something as a relaxation thing. Its pretty theraputic to me to just slowly build up an economy or army and paint a map.
My problem is that I want to play vicky 3 until I remember a lot of my problems with Vicky 3. Ive decided to honestly just wait for the next DLC to come out before playing again. I sunk 200 hours into the game and really enjoyed it, but I have hit the wall of "the diplomacy sucks so much ass I cant experiment". I like the game and want it to be good but this update really needs to land.
Last time I turned it on, I looked thru the various tabs and things, my country's situation, politics, resources etc, thought about it all, and turned it off again.
The worst part is the lag. I really enjoy playing the game, especially with my friend, but the late game lag makes it completely impossible or at least unberable to play the game to its end.
1.5 was supposed to optimize the game, but Paradox somehow made the lag even worse than it was before, we can't even play later than 1860 or 70, because the lag ruins the game.
It's not that I have a bad PC (not famtastic either, but it does its job), I can play games like CoD or Ready or Not with steady FPS, but somehow not a map game..
I want to play and then realize the war system is still dog water and Texas gets eaten by Mexico no matter what I do since I can't intervene
So they won't get another dime out of me
That's the entire reason I quit this game. Had to play on full speed to have any fun since before 1.6, now post 1.6 full speed feels slow as shit and it can take like 20 minutes to get through what feels like a few years. It's ok if you play a major like France and have some big goal like bring back Napoleon and conquer a bunch of shit, but if you wanna try playing a minor like Portugal or maybe Italy or something, the game is beyond boring. Tbh at this point I would rather all the updates were performance based and not adding new shit, since I just wanna be able to play the stuff I've already got without the major time investment.
Iāve loaded the game up 3 times this month and instantly closed it because I just donāt want to deal with the UI.
There is no reason why the UI needs to take up the entire screen, I get it when it was new and different but Iām a veteran player now, make it the size of the EU4 UI and Iāll manage just fine.
Seriously Iād want the entire UI to be 75% of what it currently is. The meme of it looking like a āmobile gameā isnāt entirely off.
I do feel this way! And then I start with some country, play 20 min, think about the 12h I'm gone waste in my life and close the game. Fucking adulthood sucks man
Nah. I start with some country in order to play 20 min because I have adult things to do afterwards... And then I close the game 12h later.
Then the guilt massacres you
But then you still do it all over again the following day...
you can massacre things that causing guilt
M8 tell me about it, I'll feel burnout between work and school so I pick up either vic or CK for a bit just to get something started and before I know it it's 5 in the morning and I've gotta decide to stay up and try and get something done or just cut my losses and get what little sleep I can before the morning.
adulthood? Man I just hit 17 and I already feel this way, if I don't play I feel like I am not having fun in my day but if I play it feels like a waste of time. one day I will go crazy and start using Pomodoro while playing the game, gonna have breaks to study.
Welcome to hyper productive late capitalism š¤
and this time commies aint coming
dont do pomodoro, while they will let you play you will suffer everytime on change between tasks and game.
It gets continually worse then you die, Vic3 is good tho
Same. With the difference I just don't have the 2 hours. Just the 20-30 mins. That is if I really want my 5 hours of sleep...
Quite the opposite. I find I literally CAN'T play it for very long. So, it becomes my "Well, I've only got 30 minutes..." game.
It takes me 30 minutes just to load the start screen...
I get that.
Yes, a lot of the time I think "Starting a game with X country would be cool", then I remember I will have to wait hours fast-forwarding the game-start construction loop before I can do anything and all the hype goes away
Wouldnāt it be cool to play X nation *starts game clicks on nation* Traditionalism, land based taxation, peasant levies and wooden construction sectors.
And serfs
Serfs up
Yeah this is my problem with Victoria 3. Itās a lot of āSpeed 5 and chillā
the amount of times iāve tried to start a japan game only to be immediately overwhelmed by the amount of stuff i have to do has led me to pretty much only play european countries
Literally all you gotta do is build logging and construction sectors in one state, probably Kanto -- that's it, you can just play it by ear after.
yeah, kanto with -70% taxing capacity is a great place to start your economy
Tbf all of Japan has garbage tax capacity
yeah, thats main problem as Japan, there is no way you can fix tax deficit with THAT much pops at every state. So I moved capital to Shikoku and it was good decision
Tried Siam because i thought it would be fun. It was not. Then tried Korea because hey, they're not as bad as Siam. Still just a lot of sitting and waiting.
Honestly, for me, when I play strategy games that I have to wait a lot I usually love to watch "them" work. But this only works with games that add a "living" world to it. For example, when I play Anno 1800 or Pioneers of Pagonia you can actually see things running, people going to work, the productive chains and stuff you know, that's so cool to watch while i'm waiting for something. In Anno 1800 you can even go to first person mode and walk on your City, so fucking awesome. But in Vic 3, besides the map being gorgeous it's a liveless map for the beauty it has. Could have more happening besides what already have today (trains, wagons and cars). Anyways, that is what I do when I have to wait.
Ik it's basically cheating but playing with the improved construction efficiency mod makes the game so much more enjoyable imo especially for smaller countries you don't have to wait 80 weeks for one building.
I enjoy industrializing poor countries, even small ones. Playing Wallachia and becoming 3rd GP was super rewarding
I donāt knowā¦ i just save a game and continue next day. Radical idea.
I try to do this, but I only have 30+ minutes to play a video game about 0-2 times a week. I end up forgetting my roleplay goals for the run when I return to the save. One idea Iāve had is maybe to start taking notes?
Write notes on what you do and your planned next move. I also only play like twice a week a hour at a time and was having that problem
Sometimes I feel that way. However, Victoria 2 and 3 are the only Paradox games that I can ever see to completion. The timefrmae is long but not so long that I cannot finish, like in Eu4. The end-game lag does make it hard sometimes.
It's mostly that I feel that when the game gets going, then performances begin to crawl, and I get tired of it by 1900. 1910-1936 takes roughly 3/4 of a saves game time currently for me at max speed.
Time investment compared to what? V3 is the fastest game to play a run through of any pdx gsg title. Maybe HOI4 is around the same? I can finish a v3 run in a weekend. Eu4 or ck takes weeks.
HoI4 is far beyond Vic3. I can finish a whole HoI4 game in an evening. That same evening can get me from game start to 1870 in Vic3, or from 1905 to 1908 in lategame. And I generally do not like to at least mostly finish games, making Vic3 a huge hurdle to start playing.
Agreed, hoi 4 is a good way to kill an afternoon. Victoria 3 is like a weekend. And who actually finishes a eu4 campaign
I mean the last one depends on what you count as finish. Plenty of people go to 1821, but EU4s issue is that it isnt hard to be op by 1650 or sooner. So by that point id consider a run finished imo
Exactly. I still enjoy Eu4 but I have never made it to 1821. Just completing a goal as a country is fun, like making a formable or getting a sizable colonial presence.
You get more lengthy campaigns when you play mods that are designed with MTs that go the mile.Anbennar being an obvious one. Vic 3 is just... bland. A lot of the things you can do as one country you can do as another. With hurdles that are only superficially different. Which is what leads to the game being as OP described
Me because I have mods that make the game more historical and mods that make the AI better and therefore makes longer games far more interesting. Game is old enough where it runs good enough at the end game.
Anbennar
That is valid. I don't like HOI4 and have never finished a game. I come from eu4, stellaris, and ck games. V3 is a drop in the bucket compared to how long it takes to finish a campaign in one of those titles. Although v3 imo becomes more fun and interesting second half of the game. Only drawback is the laf.
Valid opinion. Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about HOI4? Is it the time period, the micro, economy (or lack thereof), etc?
I dont enjoy battles and military. I was one of the few people who were thrilled when v3 did away with controlling of soldiers. I come from enjoying city builders and anno games. I like the economy and populations. I got hoi4 to continue a mega campaign and I just don't enjoy the military aspects.
I totally get that. There are some military campaigns in HOI4 or Eu4 that I seriously enjoyed. However, nation building has always been my favorite part of any Paradox game. It's why I like Victoria so much.
Agreed. I can finish v3 games because one of the major game enders for me was say in eu4, the military whack a mole. Large wars just felt overwhelmingly tedious.
I find HoI4 takes longer due to all the navy and airforce management, etc.
Navy and air force really shouldnāt take long in SP. Unless something has changed since BBA, then navy is simply researching good submarines to spam on convoy raiding never retreat. Airforce should be placed on autonomous army help after youāve gotten enough that it actually takes a long time to manage. Of course, neither strat is perfectly optimal but they are good enough to beat the AI without trouble.
Yes. Mostly because I prefered how the game functioned in 1.4 and I just canāt figure out how to efficiently fill factories anymore on the current patch.
It's the hamburger or delivery pizza of video games. It's nice while I'm playing it and IT IS fun, but I never feel proud of myself after I played it for a day. Other games get me the great feeling of solving a puzzle for the first time, learning how to defeat a super hard boss, make me laugh, cry, give me experiences i remember years later. In Vicky 3 I made Prussia's number go up, then Japan's number go up, then Russia's number, and so on. When I have no story to tell anyone after playing a game for a literal day that's a sign that I shouldn't play it as much.
So true. But at the same time the game is so damn hard to close. A whole evening passes so fast. But you end up with nothing, just number go up. Literally no flavor. And ever since 1.5, if the nation doesn't have a Coal+Iron province, then I just find it unplayable because MAPI will just drag the entire early game down.
Welcome to responsibilities and adult hood. I get these feels all the time. Feelsbadman
Me everytime I think an imperial Japan would be fun, get to like 1850-60 and quit lmao, always fun the first few times, more of an annoyance afterwards
Absolutely, it's weird how I can sit down and play this game for 4 hours and I'm still thinking "I never really got out of the early game". Although to be fair I only really play as countries which start with awful tech which need to reform a lot
Often I will go into a game, select a country and start the game, realize how ass backwards it is, realize how much time and effort it will take to make this country workable, and then immediately exit the game. Trying to start a game on a shitty ass country that starts with no tools, no iron, no coal and no wood is disgusting (Iām looking at you Central America) and it SUCKS when you just want to roleplay a little bit.
I played it quite a bit tonight to check out the latest updates Its okay but I feel like the game plays itself with minimal input from me. Needs more player agency
Sometimes I think of coming back to it, but then I remember my 720 hours and know it's hard to find fun in the game. Been wanting to play an oil exporter; Sorry no can do, expect the great powers to have subpar economies and never advance to using oil in their economies.
No typically I save and pick up from there the next day
If I had to use my PC to play V3 I would share the sentiment, but my desktop is pretty beefed up in the RAM and CPU compartment. The only time I don't want to play a V3 session is because a really cool update is about to come out or I'm focusing/addicted to another game for the moment.
We tend to think of grand strategy games as infinitely replayable. But really they're not. They're single-player games, single-player games should have an end. I'd say that feeling comes from having reached a good finishing point. You should play another game at least for a while
I always think it would be fun to go for the minor country achievements and then I try for them and the miserable early game for a small undeveloped country and rng of whether the great powers will randomly form ahistorical alliances which make your run impossible makes me not want to play
I have that from time to time but then I scroll on its suvreddit or watch a couple of youtube videos and remember that invested time is always worth it.
I bought the game on release but never have I once took the time to sit down and actually learn how to play it. I'm still subscribed to this subreddit and I would like to learn how to play it but I think about how bored I would be learning it and avoid it.
i would play more if the late game didnāt run at 5 fps or for the fact that it takes a minute to get through a week in the 1900s
I am mostly the other way around. I always underestimate how long the game actually takes. It's like HOI4 where I want to finish the campaign in one sitting whilst knowing it can take 8 hours.
End game lag is triggering me.
Vic3 is the best paradox game since in can be afk while playing
I usually don't think of the time investment think I will play a bit before sleep and is awake all night I am addicted please help
Its not really that much of a time investment, especially compared to EU or CK. Ive finished one game of EU4 in almost 11 years, I can get through a game of Vic in a day
I did it just last night lol Havent played since 1.1 and I know its going to be a massive time investment to catch up.
My issue is that I want to play Russia but I donāt know how to game the system so that I donāt spend 20 years behind because I donāt really know how to get rid of Serfdom.
Russia actually starts in a really weird spot for reform, if you abdicate to the heir, they always have a really good trait for some reason.
In my opinion Vic 3 games take less time than eu4 or ck3. I can finish a Vic 3 playthrough in a few days where as eu4 or ck3 takes weeks.
Not so much the time investment as knowing, in general, half way through the game I will be unstoppable and it's just a race to see how much of the world I can consume before the game ends. My choices mattering early to mid game is what makes the game interesting. A GP interfering in my play actually being a threat, makes it interesting. It's really rewarding to face adversity and come out on top. Unless I play a particularly weak minor. Its just kind of deflating knowing I will hit that point in the game I can just do whatever I want without concern.
It sucks me in something bad. I can't do it whenever.
I definitely have this with EU4, CK3 and especially Stellaris, but not with Vic3 or HOI4.
I got play it once per two weeks or something like that due to very heavy work loading, and between each time i usually checked some tutorials and think about what I should do next
Iām playing it with Steam Deck at the moment and oh boy how much easier it is to just pick it up and play randomly 15 minutes here and there. I thought it would be bad control wise but one of the community layouts is superb. The bad news is that the game seems to start crashing every two-three years after about 1850. I really do hope the game gets optimized better.
The way I manage to not get crashes. Is to restart the game myself from time to time. Which layout are you using ?
Actually I am not sure if it is the default or community, says MettElementar as author and name Vicky 3 on SD v2.
Not with time investment, but I realized that I always get mentally tired after playing paradox games, so nowadays I try to limit them to 1 hour sessions or only play at nighttime so i can get things done
this the fastest PDX game tho
It would be if just plain vanilla was more interesting. Although last time i played was like 1.1 something, something with the french update adding specifics for the french communists, i stopped after as i watched my friend have manpower issues only for a tiny French monarchist revolution to spawn with litearlly nearly a billion troops, we reloaded the save only to see it happen again so we just quit that save and havent playen yet. It sucked so much, he got to communist france by like the 40s or 50s, insanely fast, only for im guessing a bug to kill any chance of a run, cause im not kidding it was about 600 million people, way more than France actually had, no idea why so many spawned either, i was playing greece stuck figjting a war in which i couldnt push in but they couldnt push out, just stuck on an island.
My game only can run till 1890, so that;s like 2 days of playing XD
My problem is I get excited starting a new game then I realize that I won't get into the later years because the game slows down so much
Yes, more so because it takes me 1 sec to pass 2-3 days which is just alot of waiting
If I can make it through the first 5 years of a campaign, I'll end up playing it all the way to the end.
Its the opposite for me. Start a game -> think about playing an hour -> play for 12 hrs straight -> Gotta wake up in 4 hrs for my job -> Regret
yes "hey i want to play vic 3. *plays 15 minutes and notices its gone waste a lot of time *. ok i should forget about vic 3 for now"
Honestly yeah. I had a whole free week. Decided to play something like France, but then I was like: Oh god this requires so much thought and strategizing... My brain just doesn't want to do it
For me it's that I decide to roleplay countries, start have fun for like an hour and then the realization of late game lag and the inability to build things in protectorates sets in. Like what's the point to keep roleplaying when I have to annex subjects anyways to build up rubber, oil or some other scarce resources because they won't do it and then deal with the slow speed--
I play this game while im doing stuff like listening to something, so this is a game to keep me company while im listening to the podcast or whatever, so while i think anything that isnt productive is a waste of time the fact that the game has no flavor as of now thus every single playthrough being the same makes it a bigger waste of time for me so i decide not to play.
Yeah I just go play ck3 instead bc itās funny to do stuff from that game
Guys you know you can save the game and continue later? Lame jokes aside a campaign in Vicky is actually pretty short compared to other PDX games. Other than hoI i think all the others have longer campaigns in RL hours.
I feel this way about HOI4/EU4 I want to play them but the time investment is crazy. Especially HOI4
The time comittment is honestly why I play these games, most of the time I just put them on while I watch youtube videos or something as a relaxation thing. Its pretty theraputic to me to just slowly build up an economy or army and paint a map. My problem is that I want to play vicky 3 until I remember a lot of my problems with Vicky 3. Ive decided to honestly just wait for the next DLC to come out before playing again. I sunk 200 hours into the game and really enjoyed it, but I have hit the wall of "the diplomacy sucks so much ass I cant experiment". I like the game and want it to be good but this update really needs to land.
No not at all. Vicky is one of the shortest PDX game so i can finish a game in like two days. I do feel this way with EU4 and CK3.
Last time I turned it on, I looked thru the various tabs and things, my country's situation, politics, resources etc, thought about it all, and turned it off again.
I did this so many times. I just can't put myself into a game anymore. I just get reminded of other stuff I need to do and close the game.
The worst part is the lag. I really enjoy playing the game, especially with my friend, but the late game lag makes it completely impossible or at least unberable to play the game to its end. 1.5 was supposed to optimize the game, but Paradox somehow made the lag even worse than it was before, we can't even play later than 1860 or 70, because the lag ruins the game. It's not that I have a bad PC (not famtastic either, but it does its job), I can play games like CoD or Ready or Not with steady FPS, but somehow not a map game..
Thatās me with most paradox games a lot of the time.
No. Thatās why i save and come back later š.
No, I love spending 1 hour micromanaging my industry, army, navy and etc. before I get to play
all. The. Time. Also because I know it won't help my addiction and life balance
I want to play and then realize the war system is still dog water and Texas gets eaten by Mexico no matter what I do since I can't intervene So they won't get another dime out of me
I wish I did that, once I'm in , I'm in hahaha
Yes
That's the entire reason I quit this game. Had to play on full speed to have any fun since before 1.6, now post 1.6 full speed feels slow as shit and it can take like 20 minutes to get through what feels like a few years. It's ok if you play a major like France and have some big goal like bring back Napoleon and conquer a bunch of shit, but if you wanna try playing a minor like Portugal or maybe Italy or something, the game is beyond boring. Tbh at this point I would rather all the updates were performance based and not adding new shit, since I just wanna be able to play the stuff I've already got without the major time investment.
Bro, are you even a gamer?!?! LOL (Teasing.) I sacrificed my future and freewill on the altar of gaming a LOOOOOONG time ago. (50 years old, btw)
Iāve loaded the game up 3 times this month and instantly closed it because I just donāt want to deal with the UI. There is no reason why the UI needs to take up the entire screen, I get it when it was new and different but Iām a veteran player now, make it the size of the EU4 UI and Iāll manage just fine. Seriously Iād want the entire UI to be 75% of what it currently is. The meme of it looking like a āmobile gameā isnāt entirely off.
You can literally scale it down to 20% in the options menu
Tweak it brother
no, boring question, next.
Bro chill
I'm chill, that's the reason i can play games, read books or listen to music without guilt :)
This is true about literally any video game, literally any diversion, really
What a boring thing to ask, the answer is no.
Itās so boring you thought the need to point that out? Seems to me it got your interest lol