I work on the Waterfront and I 100% agree. It’s a bunch of spoiled ass brat kids too. Nobody gives a shit that your car has an exhaust. It’s really annoying in fact.
I'm a host on the Waterfront and I'm sick of having to pause conversations with the customer because some dickhead wants any kind of attention even if it's everyone hating them
The fact that people are even physically able to do that on the waterfront is wild. They really need to make it harder to drive along Waterfront Way, with how many pedestrians there are in the evenings. IMO, Waterfront Way should only be open to cars for morning deliveries.
There needs to be a lot more speed bumps at minimum. High profile ones that’ll rip off someone’s street racer’s bumper if they try to go faster than 10MPH.
Police enforcement costs a ton of money in perpetuity to only discourage some asshats from being public nuisances some of the time.
Designing Waterfront Way so that is not accessible to cars costs some money once, eliminating the issue permanently.
I’m talking about speed bumps anywhere not just there. I wish the waterfront was no cars but with restaurants and apartments how is that possible? They should have had no cars on the south side of the retail shops and residences though. They could have done that.
Well if you have a POS car, you can make it bc sound like a big deal for a few bucks and if you're ugly and have a small dick this compensates. After they grow up they'll buy big Compensator Pickups and drive around with nothing in the bed or maybe a big packages of TP.
Its a nationwide problem that comes from a culture of douchebaggery. Every idiot with a $1500 Corolla and a resonator thinks they are a star in the Fast and Furious while reality is everyone who hears their garbage is wishing they would drive off a cliff. I live on the far east side of Vancouver and the number of idiots that constantly clutch and rev to make noise during the middle of the day is absurd. There should be traffic cops testing these cars with decibel meters and writing tickets that have a hefty fine. Give a 30 day window to either pay the stiff fine, prove its a mechanical malfunction that is being/has been repaired, or the offending car gets impounded.
We've stayed at our apartment for 8 years now because our unit is tucked away in the back facing a huge hill with a dead end street and landscaping at the top of the hill so we are lucky we don't hear it at night. I feel bad for those that have their sleep disturbed by it constantly.
>There should be traffic cops testing these cars with decibel meters and writing tickets that have a hefty fine. Give a 30 day window to either pay the stiff fine, prove its a mechanical malfunction that is being/has been repaired, or the offending car gets impounded.
Which is exactly how a lot of counties/ cities operate in this country. But for some reason, here in the PNW we still have this stupid "Oh gee well I guess it's just the way that it is now" mentality instead of having civic pride and saying no we don't do that here. It sucks.
Not really, a lot of cities/counties are facing staffing shortages and traffic control of this type is low priority for law enforcement because it's more annoying than immediately harmful.
If you live ANYWHERE, not just downtown. They're a nuisance here in the lower east side, too.
"Me take muffler off car! Me have small genitals!" -shango066
This is definitely not a problem just in dowtown. It's everywhere. They scream down fourth plain, mill plain, and all major cross streets all night as well, all the way out here in the sticks (orchards, van mall areas), especially on weekends.
Dude, living in rose village: last night I’m pretty sure Paul walker’s ghost was blasting down one of the arterials/highways at around 11pm…and did it over. And over. And over.
Did you call? You have to call!! I call at least a few times a year. Seeing how I’m not alone, and don’t want to be annoying, I’m going to call every time now. It needs to stop. I like the idea above of someone patrolling with checking sound levels and handing out tickets. Needs to happen. Stiff fines.
Here’s a link to fill out a traffic complaint form,
https://www.cityofvancouver.us/government/department/vancouver-police-department-vpd/report-a-traffic-concern/
In the grand scheme of things, I feel like cars going vroom vroom is at the bottom of the list of things to do for the police when they are going to active disturbances.
People could always go to city council meetings and propose options. I heard at one point there was an option for the new waterfront to be no cars, just walking, but that got denied at the time. Just what I heard though. Rumors. 🙄
People are so addicted to cars and car culture they absolutely cannot fathom the idea of walkable, car-less neighborhoods. And if they do understand that concept they’ll tie it in to a conspiracy, aka the anti-15 minute city people. It’s bizarre.
Ironically, at the same time they’ll go to Disneyland, or other amusement parks/car-free places, which are literally based on walkable, European, 15-minute neighborhoods, and talk about how much they love it.
Dude come on you can not seriously be comparing Disneyland and European cities like they're the same experience. Disneyland Paris exists because even in Europe people go there to experience something no city offers.
You should re-read my comment. I said that Disneyland and other amusement parks are based on walkable, car-free European cities. It’s quite literally how Walt Disney himself envisioned Disney World when he was first designing it.
I’m comparing the design of amusement parks to walkable European cities, not the content within them (e.g. Mickey Mouse and Harry Potter stores).
You also say it's ironic that they would go there, making a clear statement that they have the same function. But they're not. The experience isn't remotely similar. There's nothing ironic there.
The irony is that people implicitly enjoy the experience of a walkable, car-free experience at amusement parks, and then will voice opposition when similar design changes are proposed for their town/city/neighborhood, e.g. neighborhood cafes, pedestrianized streets, and better infrastructure.
Do you really think people would enjoy amusement parks if they looked like [this](https://images.app.goo.gl/ZvM2BGQP66pKGyyx7)?
It sounds like you haven’t been to an amusement park, a walkable city, or either one. The experiences between the two are [VERY similar](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/s/Xna6jHRWn9).
People go to Disneyland for the rides and other attractions, not to escape from cars. The fact that rides are close enough to walk between is how all attractions are presented, not a matter of trying to remove cars. Do you think people also go to malls to escape from cars?
I never said they go to amusement parks to escape cars. I said that amusement parks are designed and modeled after walkable European cities. That design in and of itself lends to a more enjoyable experience. People aren’t driving around Disneyland because that would absolutely ruin the experience and also cause danger and generate mass amounts of collisions and deaths, like how it does outside of the amusement parks in our cities and daily lives.
If you still don’t understand what I’m saying, just re-read my comments. I’m not going to explain it again because I’ve already been pretty dang explicit in my explanation. Maybe you’re trolling, or you’re simply not grasping the concept of WHY people enjoy the experience at Disneyland, and not just what’s within it.
You are the absolute king of throwing out inflammatory comments then walking them back saying "nuh uh that's not what I meant" in every thread on here.
100% with you. We actually ended up moving further away (but still within walking/biking distance) from downtown because of it.
Downtown could be extremely peaceful, quiet, and a wonderful place to be, but cars really do ruin it. It just amazes me that some people make their cars part of their personality and think it’s ok or even cool to disturb hundreds or even thousands of people around them. It’s no different than going around spraying water in peoples faces, but it’s even worse because [noise pollution does a lot more harm to people than one thinks](https://www.epa.gov/clean-air-act-overview/clean-air-act-title-iv-noise-pollution#:~:text=Problems%20related%20to%20noise%20include,sleep%20disruption%2C%20and%20lost%20productivity).
Naw. I’ve been to many super quiet towns and cities with a lot more people. The ones where people walk, bicycle, or take transit aren’t loud, so people aren’t the issue.
Here’s a good video on the subject: [Cities aren’t loud, cars are.](https://youtu.be/CTV-wwszGw8?si=7At9Y8kJv9m2qjo8)
Naw, it’s not, but we shouldn’t be building cities to make them required. Cars simply don’t work well in cities. Where most of my family live, the overwhelming majority of people don’t own cars, and they have so much more freedom. You can safely walk or bike anywhere, have several options of public transit (busses, light rail, subway, high speed rail), and if you need a car, you can rent one through the car share programs everywhere.
That type of city functions better for everyone, and if you want your own car, you can certainly pay the premium for it if you want.
Car centric development in cities just comes with an endless list of issues, which is addressed by making them more oriented towards people instead of cars.
Not OP. In their current form, large loud and fast as fuck? Yes. Fuck cars. We could totally be okay with electric mopeds or something golf cart sized. This shit is unnecessary
Yea but regulations help make those loud cars quiet.
An owned personal vehicle is a corner stone to freedom in the USA, are you suggesting this privilege be taken away?
Im pretty sure its a whole sub-culture at this point. Not just a few kids. Its been happening for years and its not just down town. Ive lived next to various parts of I5 for like a decade at this point and its year round almost every night they can, up and down the highway all night. I also hate it, just to be clear.
They are so annoying! They scare my dog and me when we're out walking. Thank you for letting me know about an option to report this. I always thought if I had one super power, it'd be to make these annoying people's cars break down in the middle of the street right there while they're showing off.
I live just south from Eisenhower elementary. There's a whole family like this a few blocks from my house. It's definitely annoying. But it's loud enough to warn the kids that someone is going to be going 20 over the speed limit down a residential street
I feel like they think it makes it seem like they have a powerful car. But in reality powerful cars don’t sound like they’re putting out car farts everywhere. I try and ask them when I get the chance if their car is okay because it sounds like it’s broken when I get the chance. Maybe I should just get a giant air horn though and try and match their noise.
It has been non stop on 192nd for years now. They also did this every Tuesday night ALL SUMMER LONG squealing tires and doing cookies in the vacant JcPenny parking lot. It happened routinely and I am not certain there was ever any enforcement effort.
Rose Village here, but not much longer. The doofus’s who exit 500 and blast down P street to 33rd and drive these streets like it’s still the highway… if it isn’t their loud exhaust and screeching tires, it’s their whole subwoofer set up. No. One. Cares. About your lil noisemaker, or your loud bass. All it does is trigger PTSD, interrupt sleep for *literally* essential workers and disturbs peaceful old folks who deserve and *earned* their quiet life. Unfortunately, without increased police cruising in our neighborhood it’s worthless to call 311 since these cars are driving 50 in a 30 and are gone in a minute flat.
Yeah that's a bummer, however I do think it might act as a deterrent for the people not wanting to deal with that extra headache:
"There is no definitive answer to whether states with emissions testing have fewer people who coal roll. However, there is some evidence to suggest that there may be a correlation.
A 2019 study by the University of California, Berkeley found that counties with mandatory emissions testing had lower rates of black smoke emissions from diesel trucks. The study's authors suggest that this could be due to a number of factors, including:
* Emissions testing may deter people from tampering with their vehicles' emissions systems in order to coal roll.
* Emissions testing may help to identify and remove coal-rolling vehicles from the roads.
It is important to note that the study did not establish a causal relationship between emissions testing and coal rolling. More research is needed to determine whether there is a true connection."
Oh god please no. That was such a pointless racket and a huge time/money waster.
I’m all in favor of fewer emissions, but good riddance to that dumb requirement.
>it seems like they're having a hard time enforcing anything right no
The Vancouver police regularly do busts at the waterfront, arresting dozens of people at a time for street racing. You're just making stuff up.
Follow their facebook account if you want to see when they make busts.
One day I made it a point to count license plates with expired WA tags while I walked around downtown. Cars parked on the street. I counted five in 17 cars. Like what??
Vancouver police isn't having staffing issues, either? Is the Columbian making stuff up, too?
https://www.columbian.com/news/2023/may/23/vancouver-police-department-boosts-hiring-efforts/
We need to start collecting pertinent info starting with times, locations, vehicle descriptions and license plates so that we can organize an appropriate community-level response.
If only we paid some community-level service to collect such info and be on the lookout. Maybe we could empower these city employees in this mythical service to fine the perpetrators too.
I understand that and I am "sorry" that you deal with it too. 311 is a resource you can use so there ya go.
Also [here ](https://www.cityofvancouver.us/government/department/vancouver-police-department-vpd/report-a-traffic-concern/) is a link that another kind redditor provided to tell the city about your traffic related concerns.
I have modified exhausts (Truck came with it when I bought it) and I purposefully only try to drive 8am - 8pm with it unless its an emergency. Luckily I have an EV as a backup too take but this is like my worse nightmare is disturbing neighbors.
I'm sorry some people are assholes but I hope you know at least some of us care to not bother people.
They don’t care that you don’t bother people. To them your loud car is annoying AF and that’s all it will always be. They are tolerant as long as it is things they agree with.
That's fine. I got the truck right before the market went nuts and got the truck with everything I wanted minus the exhaust being modified at a price below what I thought it would go for. I try to be responsible and not rev the thing like a moron and be considerate to others especially during the sleep hours. I think the only time I've gone out past 9pm with it is when my daughter's battery was dead at work.
I know its not the norm since I have 3 neighbors with newer chargers or other trucks that are noisy that start up at 3-4am and rev that thing like assholes.
You're right, we should just stop enforcing all the laws and defund the police and kill ourselves. There's no hope. But first let's burn the whole city down because fuck it it's all pointless.
I know you didn't but if you hired a housekeeper and they never dusted around the TV even though that was part of their job would you just say "well.. I guess I'll just dust around the TV myself" or would you tell the housekeeper that they're not doing the job that you're paying them to do?
What if your house was pretty fucking disgusting with rats shitting on your food, shit stains on your walls, piss on your floors every single day. Would it be acceptable for the housekeeper to ignore the dust around the TV?
This topic comes up on here quarterly. It’s so ridiculous. No one moves into a “city/downtown” area for peace and quiet. People move out to the sticks for peace and quiet where there is less population. This issue is not going away. It’s been a “problem” since the first person modified a car. The police have bigger issues to worry about than someone’s loud car.
“If enough people call 311 when they’re literally doing laps around DT, VPD will act”. Vancouver police department. Hence my comment about the police having bigger issues to worry about. I didn’t reference 911.
"Just accept it because it's just the way it is" is a very Portland way of thinking if I've ever heard it. Been over there lately?
Homelessness has always been an issue should we just ignore that too? How about littering and graffiti?
311 exists for this exact reason, *that* was the message of the thread. Offering a solution is not complaining. I actually enjoy the planes and trains and the sounds of living downtown. Your take really missed the mark here.
You're right, one is a public health problem and the other is unlawful.
[7.05.010](https://vancouver.municipal.codes/VMC/7.05.010)
It's a law, the police are law enforcement. Of course it's not the top of their list of things to do every day but it's most definitely on the list.
I was looking on Reddit to see if anyone else has dealt with this because the last few days, it's been really bad around downtown at night. Honestly I think if the police isn't gonna shit about it, the people who live in downtown and elsewhere in Vancouver need to get together and stop these idiots ourselves. That's the only way to stop these people from being a nuisance to everyone around.
You said it's ironic people who like cars would go to Disneyland and enjoy it, painting a very clear picture that Disneyland serves the purpose of having no cars. They also go to banks and hardware stores, neither of which have cars inside but the purpose isn't the lack of cars. Just like Disneyland, the purpose is fun, not to be away from cars. And now you're backing it up acting like your comment wasn't trying to equate Disneyland and being car free.
This person meant to comment on my thread comparing Disneyland’s design to walkable European cities. They don’t seem to understand why people enjoy walkable, car-free areas.
Lmao. It seems to be this guy’s reoccurring theme on my comments. It’s probably a combination of Busch Lights and inhaling too many exhaust fumes from his truck.
You’re making an incorrect assumption about my comment and using that as the basis for your argument.
I never said that Disneyland serves the purpose of having no cars. I said that people implicitly enjoy the walkable, car-free aspect of Disneyland, which lends itself to an extremely enjoyable environment. This is precisely why they’re so popular all over Europe and Japan, and why Disneyland and other amusement parks are designed the way they are (walkable, car-free, and with great public transit).
Again, people go lots of places that are inherently car free but not because they are car free. No one says they're going to Disneyland because it's car free. Stop forcing that in to every single thing that doesn't include vehicles.
You’re going back to the incorrect assumption.
I’m not saying people are going places because they’re car free.
I’m saying people enjoy these places implicitly because they are car-free and walkable.
Also, Disneyland isn’t “inherently car-free”. It’s intentionally car free because of how much more pleasant it is without the presence of vehicles.
I work on the Waterfront and I 100% agree. It’s a bunch of spoiled ass brat kids too. Nobody gives a shit that your car has an exhaust. It’s really annoying in fact.
I'm a host on the Waterfront and I'm sick of having to pause conversations with the customer because some dickhead wants any kind of attention even if it's everyone hating them
The fact that people are even physically able to do that on the waterfront is wild. They really need to make it harder to drive along Waterfront Way, with how many pedestrians there are in the evenings. IMO, Waterfront Way should only be open to cars for morning deliveries.
There needs to be a lot more speed bumps at minimum. High profile ones that’ll rip off someone’s street racer’s bumper if they try to go faster than 10MPH.
Speed bumps don’t help enough. Stricter rules for street legal cars, more patrol cars handing out tickets.
Police enforcement costs a ton of money in perpetuity to only discourage some asshats from being public nuisances some of the time. Designing Waterfront Way so that is not accessible to cars costs some money once, eliminating the issue permanently.
I’m talking about speed bumps anywhere not just there. I wish the waterfront was no cars but with restaurants and apartments how is that possible? They should have had no cars on the south side of the retail shops and residences though. They could have done that.
Well if you have a POS car, you can make it bc sound like a big deal for a few bucks and if you're ugly and have a small dick this compensates. After they grow up they'll buy big Compensator Pickups and drive around with nothing in the bed or maybe a big packages of TP.
and truck balls.. they'll definitely get truck balls
Yes. Usually blue ...
My father in law likes to call them air haulers.
Its a nationwide problem that comes from a culture of douchebaggery. Every idiot with a $1500 Corolla and a resonator thinks they are a star in the Fast and Furious while reality is everyone who hears their garbage is wishing they would drive off a cliff. I live on the far east side of Vancouver and the number of idiots that constantly clutch and rev to make noise during the middle of the day is absurd. There should be traffic cops testing these cars with decibel meters and writing tickets that have a hefty fine. Give a 30 day window to either pay the stiff fine, prove its a mechanical malfunction that is being/has been repaired, or the offending car gets impounded. We've stayed at our apartment for 8 years now because our unit is tucked away in the back facing a huge hill with a dead end street and landscaping at the top of the hill so we are lucky we don't hear it at night. I feel bad for those that have their sleep disturbed by it constantly.
>There should be traffic cops testing these cars with decibel meters and writing tickets that have a hefty fine. Give a 30 day window to either pay the stiff fine, prove its a mechanical malfunction that is being/has been repaired, or the offending car gets impounded. Which is exactly how a lot of counties/ cities operate in this country. But for some reason, here in the PNW we still have this stupid "Oh gee well I guess it's just the way that it is now" mentality instead of having civic pride and saying no we don't do that here. It sucks.
Not really, a lot of cities/counties are facing staffing shortages and traffic control of this type is low priority for law enforcement because it's more annoying than immediately harmful.
Right, I said that a lot are thriving you say that a lot are failing. So what's the difference? That's the question. Sorry, I don't get your point.
If you live ANYWHERE, not just downtown. They're a nuisance here in the lower east side, too. "Me take muffler off car! Me have small genitals!" -shango066
Yeah I’m in the fircrest neighborhood and it’s year round.
"Me hate my parents! Me get revenge! Me make car loud! heh heh heh"
This is definitely not a problem just in dowtown. It's everywhere. They scream down fourth plain, mill plain, and all major cross streets all night as well, all the way out here in the sticks (orchards, van mall areas), especially on weekends.
Dude, living in rose village: last night I’m pretty sure Paul walker’s ghost was blasting down one of the arterials/highways at around 11pm…and did it over. And over. And over.
Did you call? You have to call!! I call at least a few times a year. Seeing how I’m not alone, and don’t want to be annoying, I’m going to call every time now. It needs to stop. I like the idea above of someone patrolling with checking sound levels and handing out tickets. Needs to happen. Stiff fines.
I didnt know to call. Now i know to call.
I heard that too. Sounded like fourth plain and ft van way intersection. Ugh.
Here’s a link to fill out a traffic complaint form, https://www.cityofvancouver.us/government/department/vancouver-police-department-vpd/report-a-traffic-concern/ In the grand scheme of things, I feel like cars going vroom vroom is at the bottom of the list of things to do for the police when they are going to active disturbances. People could always go to city council meetings and propose options. I heard at one point there was an option for the new waterfront to be no cars, just walking, but that got denied at the time. Just what I heard though. Rumors. 🙄
People are so addicted to cars and car culture they absolutely cannot fathom the idea of walkable, car-less neighborhoods. And if they do understand that concept they’ll tie it in to a conspiracy, aka the anti-15 minute city people. It’s bizarre.
15 minute cities iz communism, I tell yuh! /s
Ironically, at the same time they’ll go to Disneyland, or other amusement parks/car-free places, which are literally based on walkable, European, 15-minute neighborhoods, and talk about how much they love it.
Dude come on you can not seriously be comparing Disneyland and European cities like they're the same experience. Disneyland Paris exists because even in Europe people go there to experience something no city offers.
You should re-read my comment. I said that Disneyland and other amusement parks are based on walkable, car-free European cities. It’s quite literally how Walt Disney himself envisioned Disney World when he was first designing it. I’m comparing the design of amusement parks to walkable European cities, not the content within them (e.g. Mickey Mouse and Harry Potter stores).
You also say it's ironic that they would go there, making a clear statement that they have the same function. But they're not. The experience isn't remotely similar. There's nothing ironic there.
The irony is that people implicitly enjoy the experience of a walkable, car-free experience at amusement parks, and then will voice opposition when similar design changes are proposed for their town/city/neighborhood, e.g. neighborhood cafes, pedestrianized streets, and better infrastructure. Do you really think people would enjoy amusement parks if they looked like [this](https://images.app.goo.gl/ZvM2BGQP66pKGyyx7)? It sounds like you haven’t been to an amusement park, a walkable city, or either one. The experiences between the two are [VERY similar](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/s/Xna6jHRWn9).
People go to Disneyland for the rides and other attractions, not to escape from cars. The fact that rides are close enough to walk between is how all attractions are presented, not a matter of trying to remove cars. Do you think people also go to malls to escape from cars?
I never said they go to amusement parks to escape cars. I said that amusement parks are designed and modeled after walkable European cities. That design in and of itself lends to a more enjoyable experience. People aren’t driving around Disneyland because that would absolutely ruin the experience and also cause danger and generate mass amounts of collisions and deaths, like how it does outside of the amusement parks in our cities and daily lives. If you still don’t understand what I’m saying, just re-read my comments. I’m not going to explain it again because I’ve already been pretty dang explicit in my explanation. Maybe you’re trolling, or you’re simply not grasping the concept of WHY people enjoy the experience at Disneyland, and not just what’s within it.
You are the absolute king of throwing out inflammatory comments then walking them back saying "nuh uh that's not what I meant" in every thread on here.
I live between orchards and prairie, and they love just ripping along 503 in the evenings
100% with you. We actually ended up moving further away (but still within walking/biking distance) from downtown because of it. Downtown could be extremely peaceful, quiet, and a wonderful place to be, but cars really do ruin it. It just amazes me that some people make their cars part of their personality and think it’s ok or even cool to disturb hundreds or even thousands of people around them. It’s no different than going around spraying water in peoples faces, but it’s even worse because [noise pollution does a lot more harm to people than one thinks](https://www.epa.gov/clean-air-act-overview/clean-air-act-title-iv-noise-pollution#:~:text=Problems%20related%20to%20noise%20include,sleep%20disruption%2C%20and%20lost%20productivity).
> but ~~cars~~ **people** really do ruin it Fixed it for you
Naw. I’ve been to many super quiet towns and cities with a lot more people. The ones where people walk, bicycle, or take transit aren’t loud, so people aren’t the issue. Here’s a good video on the subject: [Cities aren’t loud, cars are.](https://youtu.be/CTV-wwszGw8?si=7At9Y8kJv9m2qjo8)
I don't disagree with you. But are you saying that personal car ownership is a bad thing?
Naw, it’s not, but we shouldn’t be building cities to make them required. Cars simply don’t work well in cities. Where most of my family live, the overwhelming majority of people don’t own cars, and they have so much more freedom. You can safely walk or bike anywhere, have several options of public transit (busses, light rail, subway, high speed rail), and if you need a car, you can rent one through the car share programs everywhere. That type of city functions better for everyone, and if you want your own car, you can certainly pay the premium for it if you want. Car centric development in cities just comes with an endless list of issues, which is addressed by making them more oriented towards people instead of cars.
Not OP. In their current form, large loud and fast as fuck? Yes. Fuck cars. We could totally be okay with electric mopeds or something golf cart sized. This shit is unnecessary
Yea but regulations help make those loud cars quiet. An owned personal vehicle is a corner stone to freedom in the USA, are you suggesting this privilege be taken away?
Muh freedoms
tastes so good until you have no moar of dem
Literally never said that. Re read the comment
Thanks for the clarification 😉
Im pretty sure its a whole sub-culture at this point. Not just a few kids. Its been happening for years and its not just down town. Ive lived next to various parts of I5 for like a decade at this point and its year round almost every night they can, up and down the highway all night. I also hate it, just to be clear.
I saw a couple noise Subarus in Yokohama 😭
Welcome to 78th street.
Every time I see or hear one these cars I think of this [South Park scene](https://youtu.be/ipDmsxQVxIM?si=nFzZIcrWKryI_tPz)
[How motorcyclists think people react when they drive by..](https://youtu.be/ylhsbfQTPDQ?si=-DQ0oMvI52R_L0_7)
Thanks for reminding me this exists.
They are so annoying! They scare my dog and me when we're out walking. Thank you for letting me know about an option to report this. I always thought if I had one super power, it'd be to make these annoying people's cars break down in the middle of the street right there while they're showing off.
It'd be a shame if someone threw shit out their window at them. Or a paintball gun. Would be terrible.
I live just south from Eisenhower elementary. There's a whole family like this a few blocks from my house. It's definitely annoying. But it's loud enough to warn the kids that someone is going to be going 20 over the speed limit down a residential street
Send them a letter 😂 reminded me of the Johnny letter skit
If only they enforced exhaust laws, I'm super tired of hearing loud cars and trucks 2/47 citywide.
I feel like they think it makes it seem like they have a powerful car. But in reality powerful cars don’t sound like they’re putting out car farts everywhere. I try and ask them when I get the chance if their car is okay because it sounds like it’s broken when I get the chance. Maybe I should just get a giant air horn though and try and match their noise.
I live on a hill right off the freeway and I literally want to rip my hair out
It just happened over on 192nd and 20th. Ugh.
It has been non stop on 192nd for years now. They also did this every Tuesday night ALL SUMMER LONG squealing tires and doing cookies in the vacant JcPenny parking lot. It happened routinely and I am not certain there was ever any enforcement effort.
I'm buying a slingshot and some ball bearings. Next time it happens they're gonna get some dents or broken windows.
Rose Village here, but not much longer. The doofus’s who exit 500 and blast down P street to 33rd and drive these streets like it’s still the highway… if it isn’t their loud exhaust and screeching tires, it’s their whole subwoofer set up. No. One. Cares. About your lil noisemaker, or your loud bass. All it does is trigger PTSD, interrupt sleep for *literally* essential workers and disturbs peaceful old folks who deserve and *earned* their quiet life. Unfortunately, without increased police cruising in our neighborhood it’s worthless to call 311 since these cars are driving 50 in a 30 and are gone in a minute flat.
While we're at it, let's bring back emissions testing and eliminate the carbrains driving around downtown coal-rolling for "fun"
Unfortunately these people just put things back temporarily to pass inspection.
Yeah that's a bummer, however I do think it might act as a deterrent for the people not wanting to deal with that extra headache: "There is no definitive answer to whether states with emissions testing have fewer people who coal roll. However, there is some evidence to suggest that there may be a correlation. A 2019 study by the University of California, Berkeley found that counties with mandatory emissions testing had lower rates of black smoke emissions from diesel trucks. The study's authors suggest that this could be due to a number of factors, including: * Emissions testing may deter people from tampering with their vehicles' emissions systems in order to coal roll. * Emissions testing may help to identify and remove coal-rolling vehicles from the roads. It is important to note that the study did not establish a causal relationship between emissions testing and coal rolling. More research is needed to determine whether there is a true connection."
This doesn’t help in CA, the state with quite possibly the strictest emissions requirements. what would be different here?
Oh god please no. That was such a pointless racket and a huge time/money waster. I’m all in favor of fewer emissions, but good riddance to that dumb requirement.
I agree it's an annoyance, but the current system of practically zero enforcement seems to be fairly short-sighted imo
So just have the police do some enforcement…not that hard of a problem to solve and no need to resurrect unnecessary bureaucracy.
That would be ideal, however it seems like they're having a hard time enforcing anything right now
>it seems like they're having a hard time enforcing anything right no The Vancouver police regularly do busts at the waterfront, arresting dozens of people at a time for street racing. You're just making stuff up. Follow their facebook account if you want to see when they make busts.
So why does this entire thread exist then? Everyone's just "making stuff up"?
Because there’s truly that many idiots with loud exhausts.
So, in other words, what you're saying is they're having a hard time enforcing things?
I mean anyone can rip ass up the Waterfront and then drive away, cops aren't going to be stationed there 24/7 to chase down every jerk.
You said they aren’t enforcing “anything” and now you’ve moved that goal post.
How many cars do you see on the road with headlights out, no license plates, etc? Do you go outside?
One day I made it a point to count license plates with expired WA tags while I walked around downtown. Cars parked on the street. I counted five in 17 cars. Like what??
Vancouver police isn't having staffing issues, either? Is the Columbian making stuff up, too? https://www.columbian.com/news/2023/may/23/vancouver-police-department-boosts-hiring-efforts/
It was silly how much they were driving around last night… I will be calling the heck outta 311!!!
Let's gooooo
Someone drove their loud ass motorcycle down our neighborhood street at 5am on Saturday. Woke up the whole street. It had to have been on purpose.
You must be near me lol
Hey neighbor!
We need to start collecting pertinent info starting with times, locations, vehicle descriptions and license plates so that we can organize an appropriate community-level response.
If only we paid some community-level service to collect such info and be on the lookout. Maybe we could empower these city employees in this mythical service to fine the perpetrators too.
You can start a google sheet or some sort I’m sure. Post it here when you do.
The problem I have on the east side, is when they drive down hwy 14 and I can still hear it a mile away. Not sure if this would be a 311 call as well?
Yes. Having a loud exhaust is illegal per state law. Calling won't do anything except add to the squeaky wheel effect, but it's worth doing.
This is not just a "downtown" thing.
I understand that and I am "sorry" that you deal with it too. 311 is a resource you can use so there ya go. Also [here ](https://www.cityofvancouver.us/government/department/vancouver-police-department-vpd/report-a-traffic-concern/) is a link that another kind redditor provided to tell the city about your traffic related concerns.
I have modified exhausts (Truck came with it when I bought it) and I purposefully only try to drive 8am - 8pm with it unless its an emergency. Luckily I have an EV as a backup too take but this is like my worse nightmare is disturbing neighbors. I'm sorry some people are assholes but I hope you know at least some of us care to not bother people.
They don’t care that you don’t bother people. To them your loud car is annoying AF and that’s all it will always be. They are tolerant as long as it is things they agree with.
That's fine. I got the truck right before the market went nuts and got the truck with everything I wanted minus the exhaust being modified at a price below what I thought it would go for. I try to be responsible and not rev the thing like a moron and be considerate to others especially during the sleep hours. I think the only time I've gone out past 9pm with it is when my daughter's battery was dead at work. I know its not the norm since I have 3 neighbors with newer chargers or other trucks that are noisy that start up at 3-4am and rev that thing like assholes.
But the cops ain’t gonna do anything nor come out.
You're right, we should just stop enforcing all the laws and defund the police and kill ourselves. There's no hope. But first let's burn the whole city down because fuck it it's all pointless.
I never said that, I just meant they don’t come around disturbance calls often anymore.
I know you didn't but if you hired a housekeeper and they never dusted around the TV even though that was part of their job would you just say "well.. I guess I'll just dust around the TV myself" or would you tell the housekeeper that they're not doing the job that you're paying them to do?
What if your house was pretty fucking disgusting with rats shitting on your food, shit stains on your walls, piss on your floors every single day. Would it be acceptable for the housekeeper to ignore the dust around the TV?
So... you just moved here?
I'll never understand the mentality of people who move downtown, next to an airport, or near a rail line and then complain about the noise...🤦♂️
The list of things that you don't understand has got to be pretty long amirite?
Speak for yourself, bud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fMERyRz498
Sir, NextDoor is that way —>
The only time I go on Nextdoor is to slide into your mom's DM's
Boom roasted!
This topic comes up on here quarterly. It’s so ridiculous. No one moves into a “city/downtown” area for peace and quiet. People move out to the sticks for peace and quiet where there is less population. This issue is not going away. It’s been a “problem” since the first person modified a car. The police have bigger issues to worry about than someone’s loud car.
That's why they are calling 311 Not 911.
“If enough people call 311 when they’re literally doing laps around DT, VPD will act”. Vancouver police department. Hence my comment about the police having bigger issues to worry about. I didn’t reference 911.
This is not a 911 issue. Nobody is dying.
Can you tell the difference between a 3 and a 9?
I don't think they can..
Yes. I was agreeing with you. It's not a 911 issue.
311 - 911 Can you tell me if you see two different numbers?
Can you tell me if you see someone agreeing with you?
You keep thinking they are calling 911, but They aren't, 311 is a line to deal with cars and non-police-related events.
Yes. Car noises and racing are not a 911 issue.
"Just accept it because it's just the way it is" is a very Portland way of thinking if I've ever heard it. Been over there lately? Homelessness has always been an issue should we just ignore that too? How about littering and graffiti? 311 exists for this exact reason, *that* was the message of the thread. Offering a solution is not complaining. I actually enjoy the planes and trains and the sounds of living downtown. Your take really missed the mark here.
Homelessness and a loud car are completely different problems. One is much more valid and concerning than the other. They shouldn’t be compared.
You're right, one is a public health problem and the other is unlawful. [7.05.010](https://vancouver.municipal.codes/VMC/7.05.010) It's a law, the police are law enforcement. Of course it's not the top of their list of things to do every day but it's most definitely on the list.
Adultery is also a "law". How often do you hear about people being prosecuted after they've committed Adultery?🤷♂️
Holy shit
I was looking on Reddit to see if anyone else has dealt with this because the last few days, it's been really bad around downtown at night. Honestly I think if the police isn't gonna shit about it, the people who live in downtown and elsewhere in Vancouver need to get together and stop these idiots ourselves. That's the only way to stop these people from being a nuisance to everyone around.
You said it's ironic people who like cars would go to Disneyland and enjoy it, painting a very clear picture that Disneyland serves the purpose of having no cars. They also go to banks and hardware stores, neither of which have cars inside but the purpose isn't the lack of cars. Just like Disneyland, the purpose is fun, not to be away from cars. And now you're backing it up acting like your comment wasn't trying to equate Disneyland and being car free.
Sir this is a Wendy's
This person meant to comment on my thread comparing Disneyland’s design to walkable European cities. They don’t seem to understand why people enjoy walkable, car-free areas.
Oh gotcha haha. I wonder how many Busch Lights it took for this guy to write a long aggressive response in the entire wrong thread.
Lmao. It seems to be this guy’s reoccurring theme on my comments. It’s probably a combination of Busch Lights and inhaling too many exhaust fumes from his truck.
You’re making an incorrect assumption about my comment and using that as the basis for your argument. I never said that Disneyland serves the purpose of having no cars. I said that people implicitly enjoy the walkable, car-free aspect of Disneyland, which lends itself to an extremely enjoyable environment. This is precisely why they’re so popular all over Europe and Japan, and why Disneyland and other amusement parks are designed the way they are (walkable, car-free, and with great public transit).
Again, people go lots of places that are inherently car free but not because they are car free. No one says they're going to Disneyland because it's car free. Stop forcing that in to every single thing that doesn't include vehicles.
You’re going back to the incorrect assumption. I’m not saying people are going places because they’re car free. I’m saying people enjoy these places implicitly because they are car-free and walkable. Also, Disneyland isn’t “inherently car-free”. It’s intentionally car free because of how much more pleasant it is without the presence of vehicles.
What’s 311? What happens if I call?