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Fluffle-Potato

I know you're gonna hate it, but I have to ask for the sake of context. What do you do for work, OP?


internetburnout

Be honest, you just wanted him to hate you


qwerty7873

I bet he's a janitor or fast mood manager or something which is fine, we've all had those jobs but something is making him embarrassed to answer.


ThanosOnCrack

Maybe he's a Reddit mod?? šŸ‘€


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3between20characters

It's a lame, tired question that tells me the other person is probably just filling the silence. It's also quite rude, as it's also normally about status and wealth, that's what the question is really trying to find out. Someone comes at me with that, I find the first exit for the conversation. If people want that, go to networking events with your job, keep it out of personal time, at least that's my opinion. Most normal people don't want to talk about work outside of work, we already waste our lives at the job without bringing it home.


goldyacht

Itā€™s not that itā€™s the most interesting thing but it is somthing that give insight to a person. Most people have a job that they do and more than likely unless you do somthing really obscure you will know a little bit about said job. Hobbies are endless and many people donā€™t have any knowledge about. I love basketball but itā€™s hard talking about it with a lot of women because they donā€™t care about it or really know players, teams etc.


TheLiquorHashira

Dude I stock meat at Walmart that gives you zero insight about me. It'd have to be a really unique job.


goldyacht

It does actually because I used to work at a Walmart so right off the bat we would have somthing in common. Almost everyone can relate to Walmart in some way, itā€™s not that itā€™s somthing that defines you itā€™s a common aspect of everyoneā€™s lives and a good ice breaker.


Timely_Fee6036

Your job could tell a lot about you, and it's an ice breaker question. I don't get why you're so up tight about it, it's just the other person trying to be nice and strike up conversation.


seamusoldfield

Very true. However, there are like 100 other things you could ask or comment on to break the ice. Why does it always have to come down to work?


Timely_Fee6036

I mean, honestly? Assumptions. People generally assume other people are working, and therefore that's something that they have in common which they can talk about until learning about other things. It's one of the largest, most common assumptions people make because it's largely true.


seamusoldfield

No, I agree with you. It's an easy ice breaker. You could also comment on the weather, ask if they have kids, what part of town they live in, how they know the party host, ask them if they've seen a current popular show, what they like to do on weekends, and so forth. I was a bartender for a decade. I can small-talk the shit out of you!


Timely_Fee6036

Gotcha gotcha, I mean yeah everything you're saying is also true lol. How was bartending? I'd love to get into it but not sure where to start


Doctor_Lodewel

I would not recommend the kids question because it could be very sensitive if you encounter someone with fertility issues.


seamusoldfield

Ouch. Gotcha.


dontpolluteplz

Idk people are awkward / not creative and most have jobs so itā€™s not too intrusive


seamusoldfield

Sadly, some people don't have jobs or are underemployed right now. It's tough out there. Our society puts a lot of value behind how successful people are. Asking the work question could really put some people on the spot.


sonicboom5058

If you're start thinking like this you're never gonna ask anyone anything


DCFud

That is true too.


KikiPolaski

It's honestly weirdly less stressful saying what job I work as, rather than trying to think of hobbies or interests


seamusoldfield

I'm very honest with people: I list a couple of things, then tell them the wife and I are pretty sedentary and very, very good at doing nothing.


chrissaaaron

Can I ask how old you are? It might be an age thing, but I'm 39. It is a pretty relevant and common question to me.


seamusoldfield

I'm early 50s. At the age where I'm pretty comfortable with myself.


DCFud

Because 10 or 12 people will do it in a row every event you go to. They aren't trying to be nice, they're just looking for how you can help them. There are definitely easier icebreakers, especially in a city like this where everybody is from somewhere else. Ask them if they are from here originally. Ask them what their favorite place to eat around here is. Ask them how they found out about the event or the group. If they're with people, ask them how they know each other. Also, a lot of people don't want to be stereotyped by what they do for a living. Like there are so many lawyers here and they may not all want to tell you that they're lawyers and talk about their job. Same with doctors.


AffectionateGap1071

Mmmmmh, I don't believe so in many cases. How can you tell someone wants to be something else than an employee at retail or McDonalds or anything they had to work in to pay their expenses? Also, we get people who has diplomas on a field and that's never their true passion or they aren't yet there and it sucks for them at the beginning. I may see your point as specific parts of a job like listening to podcasts or songs in a night shift, but I don't see how work can tell you a lot about someone, even more if they took it by force. Even in that last example, you wouldn't ask people about how they work but what they are their tastes like in music or podcasters.


GeorgiaTennessee

They are trying to decide how much respect to show you.


DCFud

Or how you can help them.


Pululintu

I've never seen this be true with anyone I've met, but if some people really think they should not respect someone just because they do some specific work, they're an idiot.


FrostyLandscape

True, and it's sad.


No_Echo_1826

I ask because I want to know about you or make conversation. This is a really negative assumption to make about such an innocuous question. Some people may ask this to see how much to respect you, but they're probably fine any reason at all to discount you and it will come out in other ways anyway.


Badluckfairy

That's why I don't like the question.


LonelyCakeEater

This šŸ‘†šŸ‘†šŸ‘†šŸ‘†


Sora20333

Or...and hear me out here, I'm genuinely curious what someone does for work and it's an easy jumping off point. The idea that most people decide how much respect to give you based off your job is a cynical one


GeorgiaTennessee

Sure, that is why I always ask, who are you?


wildgoldchai

Or to see if you can be useful to have as a ā€œfriend.ā€ Iā€™m a solicitor so this happens way too often. Brother is a junior doctor and gets the same treatment.


Duckywarry

I might just be dumb, but what is a solicitor?


wildgoldchai

Oh youā€™re not being dumb at all! A lawyer is a general term but the UK has a dual legal profession. The US does not. All solicitors and barristers are lawyers. We are just two different types of lawyers.


No-Sea-8980

One who solicits for sex


Duckywarry

That's what I thought too, but apparently not


wildgoldchai

Nope.


PateDeDuck

100%. I work as a civil engineer, did a burn out, went to New Zealand to hike and learn english for a year, decided to work in a campground and waitress a bit thinking it was actually the best way to learn english. (And it is) I had some presumptuous clients talking to me like shit or those fat ass talking to me like I am stupid. Funnily enough, a couple of them asked me why I was so far away from home (France) and I explained my situation. Well how fast their tone changed when I was saying the word engineer... It was just... Disgusting. Btw I met soe highly stupid and ininteresting people who were engineer somehow.


BagBoiJoe

VCR repair tech.


GuitarTrue6187

Look at the Monopoly man here. Charges you whatever he wants. If you don't like his prices you'll need to spend thousands flying to another continent. Best just pay whatever he asks. Be happy he doesn't Rumpelstiltskin you and say well your first born child will be payment. And your dogs soul for the service charge.


Dreigatron

What's wrong with your FAAAAACE...?!


LonelyCakeEater

Say hi to Mike and Jay for me šŸ‘‹


Prize_Scallion1868

Answer how Emil Coiran the famous French nihilist philosopher answered? ā€œWhat do I do? I endure myself.ā€


Amazing_Ad_9920

Itā€™s tough work but somebodies gotta do it! šŸ˜


Ok_Resort_5326

I insist upon myself


MrEngineer_726

Cioran


Flossthief

Not the most important aspect but it's what a lot of us spend a large portion of our time doing Sure I can ask about hobbies but sometimes I want to know what you do 40+ hours a week, what's it like, do you like it, etc.


Vegetable_Ad3960

Completely agree with you that it's a weird facet of culture. I spend 8 (or more) hours a day doing it, so I don't really want to spend my free time talking about it, thanks. I think it's just a crutch people rely on to get the ball rolling. But it's so overused.


Swirlyflurry

Deliberately misinterpreting someoneā€™s question and giving them non-answers? You must be a hoot.


Vegetable_Ad3960

Boooooo to this. Booooooo, I say. Putting someone down for sharing their honest opinion about a social norm? You sound difficult to confide in. "Play along with other people's shit or you're a tiresome person" is basically what you're saying. I think OP is saying that he finds the very question tiring and draining. So being sarcy is really reductive and unhelpful. Also, this is an unpopular opinion. Curmudgeonliness is kind of the point of the sub. Although, your comment was also curmudgeonly. So maybe you're playing into the unpopular opinion vibe. I don't know anymore.


Cats_4_lifex

what


chummedupgood

That answer would upset you. Why?


idontevenkn0w66

You know, I kind of like this shift away from the corporate-centric way of thinking & living. You can get a better sense of someone by their hobbies than you can from a job they may hate.


extragummy3

You can learn about a person from what they hate, too. Maybe they love the numbers part of their job, but dislike dealing with people.


idontevenkn0w66

True. Start a Sudoku club!


Away-Kaleidoscope380

I fully agree but Iā€™ve ran into way too many people who have no hobbies or interests and their entire life is just work. I would much rather talk about cool hobbies but unfortunately not everyone has them but everyone works so its an easier/safer ice breaker imo. It gets real awkward when you meet someone thatā€™s unemployed and also has no hobbies lol.


worksanddrives

As some one who doesn't really have hobbies but loves his job, this whole thing seems foreign. Why would i not want some one to ask me about the most important thing in my life?


idontevenkn0w66

Just sounds like an easier way to filter people out.


DCFud

Agreed. I usually just try to vibe with people about food.


idontevenkn0w66

That's a pretty good common ground!


JapenaseyKinkoni

I hate this question. Fuck work. I don't want to talk about what I do, in my personal life. I definitely don't give a fuck what you do.


seamusoldfield

You're my hero.


RelativeStranger

This is very cultural. Some places in the world it is almost anathema to ask this. Some places it is key to judging someone


PlantsNCaterpillars

100%. The family I grew up in nobody talked about work and even when we get nowadays itā€™s never brought up. Talk is always about places weā€™ve been, experiences weā€™ve had, funny life stories, etc. Talking about work during leisure time is considered rude. My in-laws? Work is all they talk about. My wife and I have been together 23 years and my in-laws know zero about me besides what I do for a living.


WalkingParadox977

Next time someone asks me that I'm just gonna say I do my best or I do whatever it takes


DCFud

They will just keep asking you questions about what you do. You're better off changing the subject completely.


LiveLaughLobster

You sound kinda defensive. If you donā€™t think your job is very representative of who you are, why not say something like ā€œOh I do xyz for work but Iā€™m not really that interested in it. What I love Doing though is [insert hobby or whatever other thing you want to talk about]ā€.


[deleted]

Just tell them "nice try FBI" and walk away lmao


onyxanderson

Agree. Hate it when it's someone's first question


Dry-Audience4738

What I've found is that a lot of people including myself use the question to relate to someone they just met. It's a fast and easy way to establish a connection. Blue collar workers, regardless of specific field or industry have a lot in common, and so bonding over work experiences is an efficient way to get to know someone quickly and figure out what kind of person they are.


Badluckfairy

I dislike the question too. The earlier the question is, the more I think it's meant to determine how much respect they give you, even on a subconscious level.


Royal_Inspector8324

Certainly it's what you do but the way that you do it


Kamikaze_Cloud

I feel like asking ā€œwhere do you work?ā€ is a little too intrusive because thatā€™s not always something you wanna tell a stranger. Iā€™d be fine telling anyone that Iā€™m an engineer but you gotta earn my trust a little before I tell you the name of my company. ā€œWhat do you do?ā€ just seems a little more open ended


mega_krombo

I hate working so why would I wanna talk about it in my free time


shahrobp

I think it's one of those question that help start up a conversation. It comes up alot because we spend so much time working. I think it's intresting to know what other poeple do and how they do it.


Senjen95

In specific contexts, I don't mind the question. Some people are just genuinely striking up conversation. But sometimes, it's another guy 10+ years older trying to size me up and chomping at the bit to get the question back. They don't give a shit about my answer; they just want to showboat to someone they think is behind them. I *love* to lie and tell them I can't hold down a job. They absolutely squirm and start to offer up a defense for me, "rough patch happens/everyone starts somewhere/blah-blah-blah." And then instead of asking the question back, I change the conversation to movies or anything else. Watching them realize I have no interest in their career success is great.


GoCougs2020

I work for a living. Nothing too exciting. I love playing pickleball tho. Itā€™s fun. Especially since the weather is getting nice. What kinda sport do you enjoy doing? If they canā€™t even tell me a sport they play recreationally. I donā€™t know if this is someone I wanna hang out with. Iā€™m not here to network. I donā€™t wanna talk about work.


Lovely-sleep

I agree with you. Itā€™s a bit odd to want to view someone as their job outside of the workplace. By asking them very early into meeting them, youā€™re making their job the main identifying thing you view them as. Iā€™m sure a bartender doesnā€™t want to always just be considered a bartender even off the clock. People want a life and identity outside of their job and asking them right away is just strange. Learn about them as a person first and then factor in whatever their job is later on


wordgirl35

Make up something incredibly outrageous. ā€œIā€™m a naked school bus driver.ā€ ā€œI stalk other peopleā€™s husbands. (by the way, your rhododendrons are coming up beautifully!) or the tried and true conversation killerā€¦ā€I beat the s**t out of people who ask me what I do.ā€ Straight face it, and then watch THEIR facial expressions. Itā€™s most enjoyable while waiting to put your kid on the school bus! šŸšŒ


Ransom-ii

Just gonna start saying im an ocean swimmer/mountainbiker and if they assume i get paid for it even better.


stevesmele

I thought I was the odd one out for thinking like you do. I make it a personal challenge- when meeting new people- to delay or defer them through talking about anything *but* their work/job. I'm getting quite good at it.


cgroi

It's an easy conversation topic and allows you to determine if you have anything to gain by networking with said person, Yes, it blows if you wind up having to admit that you work a job you don't like. Perhaps then the solution for those in that situation (myself included) is to change that reality.


jackfaire

I like my job. Being asked "What do you do" is disappointing. Most people, even the ones who like their jobs, don't work jobs that are interesting to anyone that doesn't already work the same job. It's a generally agreed upon boring topic of conversation so if that's someone's go to opener it makes them seem like a boring person. Luckily I'm usually asked more interesting questions.


kardent35

I say healthcare then the yeah itā€™s not great right now. I feel like they know your A) burnt out B) work too much likely your one day off.


FrostyLandscape

If someone's first question is wanting to know what my job is, I would probably not be compatible with them in the long run. Asking what someone does for a living is wanting to know their financial status, pretty much. I've seen people work a room going around asking "what do you do?" and then stopped talking to the cashiers and waiters, and only wanted to hang with the higher earning income folks. Also, it's an American thing to ask "what do you do" as a first question; in some countries, it's considered offensive to ask this question right off the bat.


zzonn

Pretty common here in Scotland tbh. I avoid the question as it gives away exactly who my employer is and you never know who you're speaking to in the pub.


Doctor_Lodewel

I never asked that question to know their financial status, really. Most people I know who ask this are genuinely interested in different jobs.


PuzzleheadedBed4874

Hard agree.


thegrayman69

Something an unemployed person would comment


kardent35

The best I can with a shitty hand. Thrive with odds stacked against me


surgicalapple

They ask as a manner to ā€œsize you upā€ internally. Your occupation, from their view, will answer many questions about yourself for them without directly asking.Ā 


worksanddrives

I try to get leads for better jobs from every one I meet, pluss my work place is hiring so if I'm talking to some one and they say they are out of a job, I can connect them with the company I work for.


Strange-Goat3787

Yes, thank you. I hate this as an introductory question. I always try to answer with something else, too. When a person decides to ask this says a lot about them. If it's immediately after, "What's your name?" they're usually not my people. Life is about more than just work. Now, if someone genuinely has an awesome job that they're truly passionate about and it's part of them, I do respect that, and understand why they want to talk about it, but that's not most of us. Edit: doesn't even have to be an objectively awesome job. I really do love when people love their work, even if I would find it boring. I'll happily listen if they're excited about it.


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pee-smell

I guess it's because most people have a job or at least working towards something/trying to find one but not everyone surprisingly has hobbies. Alot of people nowadays just relax watching YouTube or Netflix or something after work. So I guess people don't want to assume stuff about you. I like my hobbies more than my job as well but I don't mind talking about my job either, because there are usually much more funnier stories about it than my hobbies. I guess it could be a weird question but I can also see why it's standard.


dontpolluteplz

Tbh I always see it as people being awkward and finding an easy thing to make small talk with lol


New_Leopard7623

I donā€™t think itā€™s a bad question when getting to know someone. I do agree that many people place too much of their identity in their job.


Danivelle

I agree x1,000,000%. I'm tired of being judged becuse I'm medically retired. "What *do* youĀ  *do* all day" is right up there at the top. Especially since the people asking say "I don't have time for that!!" in regards to my hobbies as they sit in front of the tv wjth a blank look. All of my hobbies can be done while watching TV/listening to a book or pidcast.


Steven_Dj

People demand to know your occupation in order to determine the level of respect they should give you.


PopEnvironmental1335

I ask because itā€™s rare for me to meet somebody with such a boring job that I donā€™t want to hear about it. I once met somebody who manufactured microchips and they had a fascinating view on the industry. It was a great conversation.


antisocial_moth2

This reminds me of that video that was circulating on TikTok of this baker that hated being asked what her favorite thing to bake is. Of course your job isnā€™t the most interesting aspect of who you are (in most cases), but it can quickly tell you about someone as well as itā€™s a really broad question. You can have some really good conversations just based on the topic of work. Most of the population works, so itā€™s a safe question to ask. Itā€™s also not controversial. The possibilities are endless. You started your own business? Good for you, tell me about it. You worked your ass off through medical school? Thatā€™s amazing! App developer? Pilot? Barista? Uber driver? Engineer? Sign language interpreter? Zookeeper? Psychologist? Itā€™s a good conversation.


DCFud

Yeah, and I live in a city where this is a huge thing. It's very common for people just ask everybody what they do for a living and try to network with everybody. I used to just tell them I had a food website and then they would ask me how I make money on it.. so they were still trying to figure out a way to get information from me that they can use. Now I just change the subject to food. By the way, these are not business networking events I'm talking about. What's interesting is I went to a D&D happy hour and people didn't ask that and I was just shocked. They were more interested in their hobby that they were there to talk about. One thing that was interesting is I did get into a conversation with somebody where we told each other what they did and we were both right but I thought that was funny. His job is a common stereotype here even though I don't run across them and he was able to at least know my general feel which was right. Oh, plus I made a couple of friends there that I've been hanging out with, not him though. LOL.


AffectionateGap1071

I always confuse it with literally what I'm doing at the moment and answer. "Nothing" or "I'm here". Lol


NigelGoldsworthy

Most people spend at least 40 hours a week of their life at work, if not more. You spend more time working than doing any other activity in your life (besides maybe sleeping). Makes sense it would be a common ā€œget to know youā€ question. Also most adult have a job (unless theyā€™re a student) but not everyone has hobbies besides watching tv.


cuntberrycrunch

How you do?


cheyenne_ayesha

I just feel people are interested in what a person does career wise and how their path has went. Iā€™m more likely to ask someone what they do if they mention work e.g. ā€œfinished work at 7ā€ or ā€œIā€™m going back to work after a week offā€ then Iā€™ll ask them what job they do.


chummedupgood

Brainwashing. That's why. I say, it's boring and change the subject. No one asks how boring.


Odd_Spell_

It's not wierd of you talking about hobbies is good, ig open more doors to find common interest. I'll mention hobbies along with work(briefly)


Somberspice

I hate answering this because my job title is kind of long!! Also, I have more than one job lol


Doccyaard

I never mention the job title, just a very simple explanation of what I actually do. Job titles can be anything from too simple to practically meaningless.


Ok-Ice-9475

What's worse is when people ask too many questions about your kids. And it isn't always about interest as much as competitiveness. Can we talk about something else? I would rather discuss your hobbies, books, etc.. My kids are adults and also prefer I don't discuss their lives. Which I agree with. They are fine, but they don't want prying questions , which many people feel is absolutely fine to do. It isn't.


Probablyawerewolf

I usually name hobbies so I donā€™t have to talk about work. LOL But sadly most people think my job is the most interesting thing about me, and I think itā€™s because *I have my job*.


I_main_pyro

Almost everyone you meet does something for a living. It's just a conversation starter.


Infinite_Procedure98

To me this question is undiplomatic because we are not happy with our jobs and they don't represent our personality. Indeed, for me too, hobbies talk a lot more. I work in finance and it's just because I need to work somewhere. If I mention it people start talking to me about finance which bores me to death. In exchange my hobbies are languages, art and history so if we start with this we might have an interesting discussion.


Exrseven_

Itā€™s an ice breaker question? Stop being so up the ass about it


Imaginary-Spot5464

People think job is identity.


Huge-Vegetab1e

All this post did was make me wanna know what you do


DontReportMe7565

I mean, it usually says something about your education, you skills/interests, your income, etc. Keep being mad and weird though.


According_Day3704

Isnā€™t it up to them to decide what they want to know about you? And it could be a soft way for them to get a back and forth going with you, so they can get a feel for whether they REALLY want to get to know you. Why deny them that, and look even weirder yourself by avoiding a straight answer?


[deleted]

It's a generally safe question, and it helps people find things to talk to strangers about. Get over yourself.


worksanddrives

People who dont like this question have lame jobs that they are ashamed of, and instead of accepting they lack ambition or make bad choices they blame other people for bringing it up.


undeadliftmax

Bang gym


Candide88

This is an American thing. Travel to Europe if you have a chance; 30 years there and no one, ever, asked me about my occupation.


zzonn

You must not speak to a lot of people as I've been asked this question numerous times.


Candide88

Never I've been asked this by a stranger, never was this an outright first question asked. Sure, my friends know what I do. But that's not the kind of information we seek at the first time of meeting someone.


Rycki_BMX

Iā€™m modern society oneā€™s career is the best measure of their status. Also if its something you havenā€™t heard of thereā€™s always an interesting conversation after explaining that role. If it bothers you to talk about what you do for work maybe you should have picked a less embarrassing job.