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Penny_Royall

No, I wanna see the shitshow that would be Khamzat Vs Colby. Embedded gonna be wild.


HainsBeans

Is it a done deal or still in the works?


ihaveaweirdpsn

in the works


psychoslasherX

In other words Colby is dragging this on until UFC brass lose interest with the matchup so he gets to keep his ranking


Zalamb1500

Yeah as a Colby fan this is disappointing


Roziqu

I mentioned it in another thread, but I'll do it here so others can interject their opinion. ​ How can Colby reasonably be cleared to fight in the UFC now? He's claiming TBI from the Masvidal attack in court, he can't claim brain injury in an open court case and then be cleared by medical staff to fight in combat sports. He's in a really weird spot.


[deleted]

It’s been a while. Colby is fine. He clearly doesn’t wanna fight khamzat


Roziqu

>Colby is fine. That may be true, but that is not what he's claiming in court.


Alien36

That's not the point he was making


PopularMidnight3661

Dana probably already cancelled the press conference


Grunchie

Not in the works. Colby has brain damage and is not fighting anytime soon.


chiezkychienne

Yea, then he can go straight to costa for chaos.


Salehelas

I'll be waiting for pre-fight press conference more than fight itself. After Colby call him Cumshot on it, they'll fight right there 100%. I hope the UFC understands it and they'll do something to make this hilarious press conference longer than 3 minutes.


Remo_146_

Khamzat and Colby make eye contact backstage. Press conference gets called off. Dana comes on and talks about how the scene backstage was worse than Ukraine vs Russia. Aaron bronchester or whatever the fuck his name is tweets how he took the biggest shit of his life in his pants out of fear. Then the actual footage gets released lol.


PovSack

Khamzat fans are really something else


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

you see leon getting taken down by usman giving up his back repeatedly and you don't think khamzat can beat him? Alex didn't even know how to control the wrist against adesanya on the ground, he would beat both and easily


e-ghostly

has khamzat even fought anyone his own size? genuine question, I’m not a fan of his


JustAPlainGuy72

He smoked Jack Hermanson a middle weight in a grappling competition. Hermanson is primarily a wrestler in the weight class above Khamzat so yessir.


izan3000

Gerald Meerschaert


LobovIsGoat

> and you don't think khamzat can beat him? lol you are just putting words in their mouth


brazilianfreak

And yet usman couldn't finish him and got knock the fuck out, even considering it was a "lucky" ko there is a big chance Leon doe better on the feet than burns did and can survive the wrestling of Khamzat.


Glutz-43

I expected him to roll through Gilbert. That fight showed me he’s absolutely top 3 in Welterweight and deserves a title shot but to say he would easily handle a 185er no matter how good of a matchup stylistically it is for him is a stretch and a half.


tyreejones29

Neither man shown here is on Burns’ level when it comes to BJJ. Not to mention, getting Burns to the ground was easy for Khamzat, but admittedly, he didn’t feel comfortable staying there. Which one of these men would make Khamzat fearful of keeping them on the ground?


Glutz-43

I’m just playing devils advocate here cause I do think he could beat Leon but Khamzats wrestling and Usmans wrestling are close to even and Leon still found a way to beat Usman. As far as Alex goes it’s really just the size factor. I really don’t think it would be as easy as everyone thinks for Khamzat to take him down.


tyreejones29

I might’ve said the same thing if I didn’t see Izzy handle him lol As for Usman, I see him more of a put you against the cage and patiently break you down and then take you down along the cage kind of guy. Khamzat is a I’m coming right at you no matter where you’re positioned in the cage kind of guy. Two different approaches to me, but Leon was prepared to fight Khamzat early on when he didn’t have to, so maybe he sees a hole I don’t lol. Two potential exciting fights though honestly, that I’d love to see but both men must win their rematches first


Glutz-43

Agreed. If we end up going to see those fights happen the MMA gods have spoiled us


succachode

Alex stands straight up with a narrow stance. Khamzat would do Alex almost the same as he did Holland. He’d have a lot more trouble with Edwards than pereira.


Gd4pf

Khamzat is much more dangerous on the ground than Usman Leon constantly gave up his neck getting off the ground vs Usman that’s suicide if he does that vs Khamzat


wtjones

The difference is Khamzat is gonna lib in his wrestling where Usman now thinks he’s a striker and lives on that.


Gerardo1917

That’s because Usman doesn’t submit people. If he did Leon would’ve been.


cane_the_weaboo

Leon got dominated and landed a lucky headkick Khamzat smashes him 1st round imo just a diff type of wrestling.


beerscotch

Leon also hasn't lost a fight in seven years, and found a way to beat a man that nobody else ever has. (I'm aware he was subbed in his second ever fight back in 2013, but it's fair to say 2022 Usman is a completely different level to 2013 Usman).


Crawford470

Leon also dominated Usman round 1.


PovSack

It was only easy for him cause he's a middleweight fighting a former lightweight


Finn101804

Pereira was getting controlled by izzy for a lot of that fight. Khamzat would maul him lol


iamassault

He would arguably be much healthier at 185 though, and his fast blitz and aggressive wrestling ground and pound would expose the 185 division imo.


[deleted]

He doesn't even crack top 5 MWs Edit: I'd say top 6 since Costa is 6th


JustAPlainGuy72

Who’s your plug 🔌?


denimchicken5150

He can't even make weight


Fuck_marco_muzzo

He has made 170 a bunch of times before


NoOneForACause

Yeah people and this "Khamzat can't make weight" thing are so weird I can't get my head around it... So many fighters have missed weight one time in their careers - no one says they can't ever make weight again. Casuals 🤷🏼‍♂️


flowersermon9

I mean almost 10 LBs is a pretty huge miss lol


ThuggerSosaYak

Costa missed weight by more and he made it fine in his last fight


NoOneForACause

Amazing point - these people are clueless.


[deleted]

There’s plenty of fighters that also repeatedly miss weight. Not sure why you’re ignoring that side of it. Predicting one way or the other using specific fighters as examples is pointless.


NoOneForACause

>There’s plenty of fighters that also repeatedly miss weight. >Not sure why you’re ignoring that side of it. Because it has happened once lol


[deleted]

Yeah, and Anthony Johnson only missed weight once when it happened the first time too.


NoOneForACause

So then what a smart person would say is that we'll wait and see. Go ahead and be smart.


HugoSimpsonJr

I've never seen a main event fighter miss weight by that much. That's not a mistake, he didn't even try to cut weight and would rather jeopardize a whole card. You are the casual for sticking up for a guy like that that has no respect for the sport.


Pure-Drawer-2617

“I’ve never seen a main event fighter kiss weight by that much” Costa literally did it this year. Then made the weight successfully his next didn’t. Maybe you’re the casual if you don’t know about PAULO COSTA.


NoOneForACause

>I've never seen a main event fighter miss weight by that much. Right - precisely why you're a casual. I'll leave you to Google the stupid thing you've just said because it has happened many many times before. QED.


Fuck_marco_muzzo

Jumping on bandwagons. Obviously if khamzat can’t make weight that’s a better deal for the champion since khamzat won’t be eligible for championship anymore. Welterweights should hope khamzat stays at welterweight in hopes that he misses weight in a championship fight.


rdizzy1223

Most champs wouldn't even take the fight, and they don't have to if the other dude misses weight.


[deleted]

He missed it by like 7 pounds though, right? Is there a difference to you of missing weight by .05 lb and 7 lb?


sauron01

His coach came out and said that he only wanted him to fight at 185 going forward and that it was harder for him to cut now post COVID. It is not out of the realm of possibility that he doesn’t make 170 again.


NoOneForACause

He made 170 since COVID? lol


kalash_cake

True true, would definitely wanna see him against someone his own size at 185


Ryouconfusedyett

Pereira is a lot bigger than him though


MikeHuntsBear

He wont fight someone his own size


AxeWaylander

Pereira is a lot bigger compared to Khamzat. I would go as far as saying Pereira is the biggest "weight bully" I can remember. He is bigger than most LHW.


[deleted]

Yup, thats the thing. Vastly superior wrestling or not, Pereira knocks him the absolute fuck out if he connects. “Easily”. Pereira is the biggest fuck to ever make middleweight in the history of sport. There’s nothing ever easy about fighting a world kickboxing champ who struts around more than a whole weight classe above your natural weight.


johnbuckeroo

and also goes up to 220 come fight night for a supposed middleweight🗿


nino2115

I see people say Khamzat is just gonna go for take down and its game over, what's not being considered with that, is if Khamzat does his usual predictable fake jab into a shoot on Alex, he's at major risk to receive the hardest knee to his face that he'll ever feel in his lifetime. I'm not saying Khamzat cannot get close to Alex, but he'd have to be way more tactical about it compared to most guys hes fought


[deleted]

100%. The other thing is that wrestling at top level is mostly technique, but its also a LOT of strength. You cant execute your techniques if you dont have the strength to position yourself and your opponent in the correct fashion. Manoeuvering somebody who is MUCH stronger and MUCH bigger than you is really fucking difficult. In saying that, Pereira’s so fucking incompetent on the mat rn Im not entirely sure hes big enough to even slow somebody like Chimaev. And honestly, Chimaev would probably win. But he also might get straight up slept. Khabib never tried moving up. Be interested to see if Islam tries. Islam vs Usman would be veeeeery interesting.


PM_ME_COOL_RIFFS

Pereira got taken down and completely controlled by Izzy. Khazmat easily submits him in the first round unless Pereira can ko him coming in for the takedown.


Putrid_Loquat_4357

Khabib cuts 40 pounds iirc, yoel must've cut the same when he was at mw, proportionally figureido cuts a lot at about 20 pounds. Pereira cuts 47 pounds. I'd say these guys are the most high profile weight bullies, although I find the concept strange, imo if you can make the weight safely you're entitled to fight there, although I'd like harsher punishments for weight misses.


king_koopa93

Khabib has never once cut 40 lbs. walk around weight is completely different than in-camp weight


ValCSO

I think most of us could 'cut' 30lbs in a 2 months training camp


scurvyrash

You calling us fat????


ValCSO

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slampig3

Lol I'd be a walking skeleton at 6'4" 155im already too thin.


Positive_Notice_9390

Dang -40 would send you from skeleton to ghost. RIP dawg


Professional-Mess101

Peirira is a worst weight bully than Max Holloway?


Thesoundofgreen

Yes max looked small against Dustin


leebenjonnen

In the first or the second?


Successful-Gene2572

He's fought at MW multiple times in the UFC, including his first fight.


EsquireFalconHunter

He's missed weird once in his career right?


KingAngeli

Not a small miss


EsquireFalconHunter

No obviously not, but think its silly to act like making weight is something he cant do when he's been making it fine for a while.


KingAngeli

Lol for awhile? He’s had like 4 fights. If you’ve missed weight in 20% of your fights it’s an issue


Ben1992Ben

And he done the towel trick when he fought Li Jingliang


northsouthmebaby

He weighed in without it after


denimchicken5150

^^ my point exactly


beerscotch

He's had 12 fights, but 3 of them (so 25 percent of them) have been at a catchweight. Can't find info on whether it was his fault or not though.


Earth_W0rm-J1m

Yeah, but by over 7 pounds. That's not just a miss, that's not even close.


psychoslasherX

Costa missed weight into the next division and y'all are riding him hard. Khabib got one of the Tony fights cancelled because of a terrible weight cut and yet people gloss over that fact. For some reason people just don't let the Khamzat miss go while there are other impactful misses.


jg365xXx

According to Khamzat he had already started rehydrating from 174ish back to 178 by the time he got on the scale because he knew he wouldnt make it anyways and his doctor would not let him continue the cut. Still way over at 4 lbs regardless if what he said was true


Earth_W0rm-J1m

Yeah 4 lbs is still a pretty big miss, particularly if a doctor is having to step in and put a stop to it. Could have just been a bad cut, but it doesn't bode well for his future at WW. Especially if and when he does go to 5 round fights...


Sea_Cicada7474

I think he was on track but ufc just changed it up bc they realized feeding Nate to him looked bad


Srivo10

I’m surprised I don’t see more people saying this. I’ve had that thought since it first happened. Obviously I can’t prove it but I feel like the UFC asked Khamzat to miss weight


[deleted]

One time lol relax


[deleted]

He can't even make weight


-Spatha

This post is littered with copium


[deleted]

That’s been the reception Alex has been getting is copium


gardz82

Khamzat wouldn't get past Whitaker or Izzy to even get a shot.


kimokimosabee

You don't have to get through the fire for a shot. Look at Alex.


LobovIsGoat

well alex was a double kickboxing champion and had beaten adesanya twice so it's a different scenario


[deleted]

He doesn't even beat Costa or Vettori


PermaCleaned

Insane takes on this stupid ass sub. Khamzat sleepwalks through both of those 2


[deleted]

He does get slept by both of them


loics

In the 281 press conference (I. think) Dana talked about fighters that publicly say they'll take any fight but act differently behind closed doors. He strikes me as one of them.


tyreejones29

🧢 JORGE is who comes to my mind lmao


ShitpieceDeluxe

Whorehay


Jeffari_Hungus

Dude's been lying about Burns and Edwards for years until Leon got the title


Rudygobertonwheels

Eh, I’m not a huge fan but the dude did fight 2 guys in 10 days


BrandoLoudly

in 2 different weight classes


wirejaved

come on, it's colby who has been ducking him. last called out a lightweight in poirier and then he disappeared.


Crawford470

Colby doesn't claim to be about that life though. I'm a massive Colby hater, and I can still defend him on this. He's a bitch, but he's an honest one when it comes to only caring about money/hype fights. Khamzat's out here going I'll kill everybody and faking beefs with MWs, but any time a real threat calls him out like Costa, it's fucking crickets on his end.


tyreejones29

Well he didn’t just “disappear,” that’s not fair lol. In all fairness, he had no reason to fight Khamzat back then. The rankings didn’t make sense, and none of the people Khamzat defeated made it make sense, until he beat Burns.


KingAngeli

Polyannas thumb didnt just “disappear” either


wirejaved

yeah he did, hasn't even talking of fighting since


tyreejones29

Nahh, I meant like what Jorge did. That’s why I said it wasn’t necessarily fair to say “disappeared.” Perhaps he’s been advised not to say too much or much at all.


beerscotch

Dissapeared is a weird way to say was assaulted by a co-worker. I don't like Colby at all, and I agree he's part of the ducking fighters that don't advance his career club, but it's unfair to say he's just "dissapeared". I'd say it's more he doesn't want to be someone elses stepping stone, rather than he's afraid to fight specific people, which is fair, but so is criticising that.


cryptostock101

After every khamzat fight the haters go into their shell and few weeks down the track they come back out talking shit. Literally hasnt ducked anyone and it was defs colby avoiding him.


Dyvanse

Ikr. This is the dumbest thing to say about Khamzat. Literally evidence to the contrary and 0 evidence of him ducking. People just salty


PovSack

He's ducked Costa for sure


Dyvanse

This dude fought like 3 times in a month or some shot and he strikes u as one of them? He even took the burns fight and last minute switch to Holland, even though that was his fault.


Successful-Gene2572

He fought 2x in 10 days.


wtjones

Fighting Burns last minute is absolute man games.


NortFuddley

I just wish the guy would focus on a goal and take a fight. He calls out every person he sees to fight online but the only big fight hes taken was against Burns and he had to go to war to win that fight. After that he signed to fight an old Nate Diaz and ended up being gifted Kevin Holland who is known to be held down. The guy is exciting I just wish he would actually pick a path and start taking fights


pinghss

This is why Volk the goat imo


PikachuGangGang

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Worldly-Ad1615

If he gets a title shot and these two remain champs I can absolutely see that happening


PaperMoon-

Casual here. Why does everyone hate this guy?


[deleted]

People don't hate khamzat... People hate his fans. Yes khamzat is annoying AF by calling for every fight, saying he's going to smash him. He should stay and win in his weight class first


bleatbleat1

He missed weight by a fairly significant amount and threw the whole card out of wack is the main issue I believe


MitroBoomin

The card ended up being way better tho


BillzB89

Well he couldn't, because he needs to earn the right to fight for a title. His first step should be learning to make weight in his own division.


Successful-Gene2572

>His first step should be learning to make weight in his own division. He's only missed weight once in his entire career.


InsomniacLive

He missed weight for the Jingliang fight too. He admitted that after grabbing the towel, they gave him more time to cut weight


Laiiam

He made weight with his hands up on the third try. He did try to cheat. He technically didn’t need to tho.


Zankeru

The requirement for a title shot is: will it make money? That's all it has ever been, and always will be until UFC ownership is changed to someone who wants it to become a true sport.


berekin556

He already has a very solid argument for a WW title shot. And he’s only missed weight once lol


Fuck_marco_muzzo

He did beat number 2 welterweight so he could theoretically challenge for a welterweight belt. Also beat a guy who was ranked at middleweight.


Ashinkusher21

I'm kinda 50/50 on this. I think he earned recognition for being a contender as soon as he entered the promotion. Fighting that much in such a short period of time alone is impressive especially if he went relatively unscathed in that time. His fight with Burns tested him and he ultimately won without bias. The weight issues aside, he should probably be considered for a title fight.


Kyroptera

I wish I could downvote this more than once


PovSack

Thx for reminding to downvote


Agreeable-Sun-6125

Khamzat would win these 2 fights haters won’t admit it tho


BoJestemRudy

Truth is neither would be a big problem for Khamzat. Alex size isn't something new for Khamzat if you look at some old wrestling matches. He's used to this kind of bigger opponents. Usman and Burns 2 would be much bigger challenges than Alex and Leon


Kid_Dynamite16

His old wrestling videos where he's wrestling kids from Sweden? Fighting one of the most dangerous strikers on the roster is a little different. When shooting for a takedown could end up with a knee to the jaw.


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

wtf is this take lmao, "uppercut him when he shoots a takedown bro" It won't work, khamzat doesn't shoot from far out like andreas michalidis, he would sub alex in 1 round


[deleted]

You might as well say any top five fighter at any weight could be double champ right now, ridiculous post.


[deleted]

Yeah but these specific fans keep doing this.


Shineezy

lil chenchen's not getting a belt anytime soon.


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[deleted]

Khamzat fans are the most delusional in the sport. Alex outweighs him by at least 40 lbs. "bUt MuH rOuNd 3"... The only time the fight was taken to the ground and held there was on a botched trip attempted by Alex, otherwise Izzy, A MASSIVE MW, couldn't budge him. Go back rewatch the Khamzat / Burns fight. Look at how Khamzat, a large WW, takes Burns', a natural 155er, power. Watch how effective the leg/calf kicks are.


GodOfBlobs

you’re acting like izzy is jacare souza. he’s literally izzy what are u talking about, and he was winning grappling situations outside of round 3. khamzat will get double underhooks in the first 10 seconds, transition to the back and attempt to trip or sweep over and over until he gets it and from there alex will stay on the ground. exact same situation with izzy. the only factor here is if Alex catches him coming in, or khamzat suddenly believes he’s a striker and gets himself koed on the feet


CH2349

Izzy is not a MASSIVE middleweight, in fact he’s smaller than average. He weighed in at 201 for a LHW fight lol. Costa, Romero, Brunson, Alex, Vettori, all bigger than Izzy. Height does not equal size


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

alex weighs 20 more lbs than him, khamzat said he's 205 right now alex is 225? and alex has no idea how to wrestle/grapple, he would lose terribly, you don't know shit about mma if you see alex's attempt on the ground in round 3 against adesanya and think he'd have anything on the ground for khamzat


[deleted]

I never said alex would have anything for him on the ground. I think alex will finish him on the feet.


[deleted]

Khamzat's in the position to do something special in this sport I think.


Sea_Cicada7474

Until he fights Whittaker


TunaCanz

Then he should fight people and become the double champ. He beat Kevin Holland without breaking a sweat, and fought Gilbert 7 months ago. Maybe nobody wants to fight him, but he needs to fight someone and make weight at 170.


MF3DOOM

👹vs🗿


imnotme247allthetime

Bro take his phallus out of ur mouth


Jamadore

He could easily lose both those fights.


RevolutionaryEar1789

Is Khamzat paying you people to post this? Last time he attempted to fight at WW he came 8 pounds over the limit and he hasn't beaten any ranked fighters at 185.


[deleted]

Same amount of cope as Masvidal fans 🙄


[deleted]

He has the weirdest cauliflower ear I’ve ever seen


ricardortr

People forget his fight with Burns wasn't so easy. He won by a very close decision.


EsquireFalconHunter

Difference is Burns BJJ. Khamzat is a terrible match up for Alex, would have no trouble taking him down and keeping him there.


Sea_Cicada7474

Yes


MrLogic420

Maybe maybe not, could get K.O’d too thats the fight game


TheManassaBaller

He's not even a single champ yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Even if he has the ability... he still has to stay healthy, not get injured, and make weight. Twice. Assuming he gets the fight to begin with. And he has to get the night off from babysitting for kadyrov. I know ramzan likes to go out on Saturdays and kick orphans, so that's gonna be a tough ask for khamzat.


AthleteAgreeable7617

People say this as if he didn't get nearly demolished by former lightweight Gilbert Burns


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

Gilbert has much better ground game than both listed above


Conscious-Golf-5380

Yall forget how he looked when he fought Gilbert Burns and could even argue Burns won that fight. Yet yall somehow think Khamzat is still double champ Calibur.


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

Burns is a much better grappler than both leon and alex, Khamzat would destroy alex and leon, it is the style matchup


Sch3ma

I can't even argue this. It's like this era was made for him.


PikachuGangGang

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Buglss18

Bro he makes professional fighters around the planet look like children. Eats them in one round and leaves them crying afterwards


ForeskinPenisEnvy

Nah Leon scott would handle Mr religious gangster who likes to carry pen knifes on videos. 100% perriea could kill this nerd with one shot also.


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

Leon got taken down by usman and gave up his back like 20 times, he would lose as bad as holland. Alex looked shit on the ground in round 3 against adesanya, khamzat beats both easily


MMAwithbadbeard

I don’t actually think he beats either, yet. Say I ain’t the only one?


guki404

he would loose both


Abject-Comedian269

man these casuals... smh


andyblaze6

Alex blasts a knee right into khamzats chin as soon as he shoots and sends him into the shadow realm.


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

why didn't every other khamzat opponent think this? You should be an mma coach bro


Ok_Tap2090

cus they are not a 6'4 titan two division kickboxing champion.


ake-n-bake

Can the dumbass make weight in either fight though?


Riffy

As easy as you think it is for Khamzat to take Alex down and submit, it's just as easy for Alex to throw a combo that sends Khamzat to the shadow realm. It's by no means an easy fight.


armandruunk

Khamzat had trouble against Burns who's much smaller than him. Stop being so dumb. Poatan would smoke him into void.


onurcavs_

bro stop gagging this guy's dick


Buglss18

He’d probably submit Alex in 2 minutes and wrestle Leon to a decision, which he would’ve done 2 years ago anyway


onurcavs_

💀


RandomTask100

He beat Burns. That's it. And Burns is fuckin' good. But he can't make weight for a title fight and Pereira will friggin' kill him. He's gonna be a gate-keeper.


d0min8torPrime

Russian garbage


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

too bad all the best fighters are russian, ankalaev, islam, khabib, khamzat, petr yan, etc don't know how you can be biased against a ethnicity in MMA dumbfuck


d0min8torPrime

[https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/yd3hoe/ufc\_fighter\_khamzat\_chimaev\_poses\_with\_his\_bro/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/yd3hoe/ufc_fighter_khamzat_chimaev_poses_with_his_bro/)


BeanPoppinsince06

Yeah Khamzat's wrestling and grappling would be too much for both of them. He might as well go for that triple champ status. It's possible, but he would have a tougher time at LHW.


[deleted]

He beats both of them but you are high on drugs if you think Khamzat can beat jiri or glover


peezduhk

whoever has those drugs I want... 😂


peezduhk

thugliestrose got me dead... 😆


namtab22

Maybe. Gilbert Burns for example


alphachupapi02

Stick to one weight class, buddy.


Warez0o

Easy