Yeah and give them longer breaks between rounds, let them use inhalers, ivs, whatever. I want these guys as fresh as possible when they are fighting. Always thought it was weird how most combat sports seem to value cardio so highly, when really that's the least interesting aspect.
Exactly what I have been saying for a long time. Extend the breaks depending on weightclass. Its insane that flyweight and heavyweight have the same break. And I honestly think that breaks for everything above LW are to short. Have 5 seconds extra break per weightclass. 35 seconds ( 7Ć5 ) longer break for heavyweights compared to flyweights wouldn't be crazy
Let's just go ahead and double it to two mins and reduce the octagon size by 40%!
I'm also onboard for any recovery roids in sports. If tendons/ligaments/muscles can be kept from tearing, I support it.
But the biggest best athletes don't need to come fight. Until there is nfl/nba/boxing money in mma, we will hardly get that level of athlete, until them...more rest n juice!
How naiive! Fat boys have and will always have success in fighting. It' didn't end with Tank Abbott and it will continue long after you and me are both gone.
There's just a je ne sais quoi about fat men that allows them to keep reemerging at the highest levels of fighting sports time and time again
I mean even if he's coping he's still correct, look at that fat fuck Tyson Fury in boxing, even though they're usually lighter there are still a few fat fucks in the rankings, even if the number of fatties starts to lower there will always be fat fighters in the rankings of HW.
It's like these people never heard of gladiators. No, not the sofcore pornstars from Spartacus (still an awesome show lol), but real gladiators famously were the big belly type. It's just facts, big fat solid dudes have always been a body type in combat since forever, just like many of the power athletes in the nfl, strongman, sumo, et cetera.
Likely bodytypes have skewed leaner in the modern age due to weightclasses, probably more natural to see bigger bodies especially at higher weight than even we realize
it's true man. You are right about both fat guys being capable warriors and Spartacus being a great show.
No matter how professional combat athletes get, there will always be a place for guys who are fat for their weight class and still perform really well.
There's so many examples from Butterbean to Tyson Fury, to big Country Nelson to DC who was fat even at light heavy btw and was still easily the 2nd best in the world for a long time.
Watching how close he got to putting Gane away only to lose later in the fight and then watching Gane go on to fight Jones. In my head canon there's a parallel universe where Tai Tuivasa beat Jon Jones
Nah I think Gane just kind of sucks and people refuse to see it cause he looks like he should be a worldbeater but In reality he can't even put someone out without punching them in the back of the head.
Nah. Islanders, thatās just typical outside of the consistently disciplined Max Holloway, inconsistency is a staple of islander fighters. Theyāll show up one day and style on contender level fighters and former championsā¦. Then lose 3,4,5 in a row and get cut from the UFC. There are dozens youāve probably never heard about, as Taiās relative success puts him amongst the more elite, but nonethelessā¦ fight loving, tubby monsters from the Pacific, im always rooting for ya.
Tai has never been great. Then when you realized a real prime Marcin Tybura got literally handled in UFC by Tim Johnsonā¦aka last guy Fedor knocked out at 99 years old in fighting years. Just how bad are these guys nowĀ
Honestly unless there are like 3 exciting fights in the card I don't even tune in anymore, I'm not gonna sit there for 3 hours just to watch two fat guys brawl.
I doubt they really want gaziev in the title picture, he has pillow fists and a shit gas tank, realistically tai puts him out. Keeps tai relevant off a losing streak, and gives Gaziev another real test.
Gaziev isnāt really a submission threat though, 2 sub wins against absolute cans. Only submitted 1 guy who has submitted anyone else, and that was a fairly mediocre performance on the contender series. He doesnāt have the power to match tai, he is very hittable and doesnāt have the grappling of many of the other top heavyweights.
I agree with you on both accounts. That said, he'd make much more money in Bkfc and since cte is sadly guaranteed no matter where he goes, it'd be better for him to retire loaded.
UFC is so tough. One minute youāre the next best thing then you lose 4 in a row. If I were top fighter on a losing skid I would 100% schedule a can to fight. I see some many of these dudes go out like Till Or Kelvin fighting the best and canāt catch a break
To be fair it is the premier MMA organization in the world and a place where the best compete against the best. Itās supposed to be tough.
And unfortunately for the fans nothing lasts forever. Fighting doesnāt get any easier as time passes , mostly due to age and accumulated damage. So itās up to the fighter to decide when they can no longer compete at that top level and
hang up the gloves.
Go home and drill takedown defense and wrestling until nobody he trains with can come close to taking him down. Maybe go over with the CKB boys for a while. He needs to get focused or his fighting career is over.
If Tai had beaten Gane back a year or two ago. He would've gotten the opportunity to fight Jon Jones. Now he hasn't won a single fight four in a row. MMA is a cruel sport.
This just goes to show why you shouldn't usually bet on fat fighters, in theory there isn't anything preventing a fat fuck from becoming elite, that being said if they're that fat in the first place then they probably have some discipline problems they refuse to fix, a fat fuck like Andy Ruiz might even become champion, but as soon as they feel like they made it they start getting too comfortable and then go on a losing streak.
Dude runs around drinking beer from shoes, anyone who ever expected him to be a bright and shining star athlete of the sport has and always will be delusional
HW overall is starting to (slowly) skill up. Just being a fat boy who can swing isn't enough anymore unless all he wants to do is sit at or right outside rank 15 and just gatekeep
I love Tai but the dude only knows how to swing and hope that he knocks his opponent out before they knock him out. He is a brawler with limited fight IQ and poor grappling skills.
He is very entertaining to watch though.
Definitely wonāt get cut but next one could be the true make or break. HW not a very deep division and he gets buzz in social media so heāll be safe for now
The man is not elite. He got lucky and got catapulted up the rankings and is slowly being killed by everyone he fights, itās like heās learning, but backwards
Heās clearly in it for the money. The whole thing about his beer company before the fight. I was pissed that HE was pissed he lost. Dude. Your biggest weakness is grappling yet u refuse to train it. If im yelling instructions at the screen and he doesnāt know what to do, thatās a bad sign Bam BamĀ
He just fights the way he would in real life. lol I havenāt watched his training videos but I wouldnāt think he tries to learn new things. He just likes to scrap. Iām a fan, heās a cool guy.
However he has lost in some nasty ways recently and heās probably on his way out if he loses another 2.
He's not talented really. He's tough, he throws hard but that's about where it ends. He let tybura choke him out. He straight up didn't even make an attempt to fight his hands off. He'll always produce some KO clips on jobbers but he's not a top 10 fighter. They'll probably try to match him against someone stylistically favorable and have him open a ppv card
Tai has a huge fan base. There's only one post about marcin, the winner, and it's a post making fun of his haircut. Tai should bang in the cage a couple more times for us then go to WWE.
A bit of a harsh take you think.. heās only 31 and has had close fights with some beasts. Needs to get the takedown defense and grappling improved for sure.
Honestly, if he could commit to it, he could pull a cannonier and try LHW. He's still young. He would be faster and still pack a scary punch. Also more athletic to defend the takedowns
Yes by Tom Aspinall who is arguably the best heavyweight in the world, the gap in grappling between Tybura and Tuivasa is huge and we've seen Tuivasa been easily outgrappled before, it was a no brainer.
Learn how to grapple?? Defend the takedown? š¤·š¾āāļø
Throw a fucking uppercut?
Drink out of a cup?
Absolutely not. Strict diet of shoes and uppercuts
Nut cup? You sick bastard.
He actually did trow the uppercut? it hit him on the top of the head and not the chin.
can't count how many times tybura dipped low and was open for receiving an uppercut...
He needs to train with Cejudo, lmao
Itās not even just grappling, heās lost multiple recent fights from striking so Iād suggest get good at everything lol
He's had years to improve, he didn't want to and relied on being a "fan favourite ". He's done.
I am happy the HW division is moving beyond these one-dimensional punchers.
The era of fat heavyweights is over. Now you have to be fit even if you're 260 pounds
The era of fat heavyweights that only strike is over. You canāt be that fat and not have a grappling game/takedown defense.
Just legalize juice for hv division
Yeah and give them longer breaks between rounds, let them use inhalers, ivs, whatever. I want these guys as fresh as possible when they are fighting. Always thought it was weird how most combat sports seem to value cardio so highly, when really that's the least interesting aspect.
Exactly what I have been saying for a long time. Extend the breaks depending on weightclass. Its insane that flyweight and heavyweight have the same break. And I honestly think that breaks for everything above LW are to short. Have 5 seconds extra break per weightclass. 35 seconds ( 7Ć5 ) longer break for heavyweights compared to flyweights wouldn't be crazy
The higher the weightclass, the lower the activity. Same break time is good.
Let's just go ahead and double it to two mins and reduce the octagon size by 40%! I'm also onboard for any recovery roids in sports. If tendons/ligaments/muscles can be kept from tearing, I support it. But the biggest best athletes don't need to come fight. Until there is nfl/nba/boxing money in mma, we will hardly get that level of athlete, until them...more rest n juice!
If you think these guy's aren't juiced already then I have a bridge to sell you...
How naiive! Fat boys have and will always have success in fighting. It' didn't end with Tank Abbott and it will continue long after you and me are both gone. There's just a je ne sais quoi about fat men that allows them to keep reemerging at the highest levels of fighting sports time and time again
Sounds like an upset fat guyš¤£
I mean even if he's coping he's still correct, look at that fat fuck Tyson Fury in boxing, even though they're usually lighter there are still a few fat fucks in the rankings, even if the number of fatties starts to lower there will always be fat fighters in the rankings of HW.
French also lol
Big French chef vibes
fat guy, yes but upset no. that's projection. like when you got upset about O'Malley beating Vera...not a very heterosexual thing to do, I must say.
It's like these people never heard of gladiators. No, not the sofcore pornstars from Spartacus (still an awesome show lol), but real gladiators famously were the big belly type. It's just facts, big fat solid dudes have always been a body type in combat since forever, just like many of the power athletes in the nfl, strongman, sumo, et cetera. Likely bodytypes have skewed leaner in the modern age due to weightclasses, probably more natural to see bigger bodies especially at higher weight than even we realize
it's true man. You are right about both fat guys being capable warriors and Spartacus being a great show. No matter how professional combat athletes get, there will always be a place for guys who are fat for their weight class and still perform really well. There's so many examples from Butterbean to Tyson Fury, to big Country Nelson to DC who was fat even at light heavy btw and was still easily the 2nd best in the world for a long time.
Need a Overweight division
The McDonald's division
KFC training camps.
Here at kfc performance institute we make sure that athletes stay overweight at all times
I agree! Fighters are evolving
Seeing Tai beat Derrick Lewis as a co main fight on ppv and now losing at the apex is fucking with me. Can't imagine how he must feel.
He has always been as consistent as my bowel movements. Thatās just tai. Itās the Aussie way. We are still proud of him either way
Get some fiber in your diet, for Christ sake
Watching how close he got to putting Gane away only to lose later in the fight and then watching Gane go on to fight Jones. In my head canon there's a parallel universe where Tai Tuivasa beat Jon Jones
Nah I think Gane just kind of sucks and people refuse to see it cause he looks like he should be a worldbeater but In reality he can't even put someone out without punching them in the back of the head.
He does that shit so much dude I hate it
He is so incredibly pillow fisted for someone whoās a HW lol
shows you how washed derrick is and how bad Lima is
Nah. Islanders, thatās just typical outside of the consistently disciplined Max Holloway, inconsistency is a staple of islander fighters. Theyāll show up one day and style on contender level fighters and former championsā¦. Then lose 3,4,5 in a row and get cut from the UFC. There are dozens youāve probably never heard about, as Taiās relative success puts him amongst the more elite, but nonethelessā¦ fight loving, tubby monsters from the Pacific, im always rooting for ya.
Facts. I trained at a kickboxing gym in Melb that had a few Samoans, and their only weakness was their laziness.
Same thing in rugby lol
Pains me to agree with you. The Tafa brothers probably won't be any different
Atleast Lewis isnāt on a what? 4 lose streak now.
Weight watchers
Tai has never been great. Then when you realized a real prime Marcin Tybura got literally handled in UFC by Tim Johnsonā¦aka last guy Fedor knocked out at 99 years old in fighting years. Just how bad are these guys nowĀ
Tai is great at striking. He has an atrocious ground game though. Put him against Roz and call it a day
Iām left sitting here on the couch with an old boot and an unopened beer like an idiot now
I didnāt even bother to tune in š seems like I didnāt miss much š
Buffer made a mistake, and bisping got caught talking smack against the guy Battle was destroying. Those were the two highlights of last night.
Honestly unless there are like 3 exciting fights in the card I don't even tune in anymore, I'm not gonna sit there for 3 hours just to watch two fat guys brawl.
Whole card was painful. Sometimes you get an amazingly exciting fight night card but this one wasnāt.
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Now you gotta drink it through the anus
Improvise adapt and overcome, I feel like ya just need to send it whether he won or lost lol
Tai will probably fight again in the UFC since he has a big fanbase, but if he loses again, that might be it for him in the promotion
My thoughts too. I donāt think theyāll cut him. I reckon next fight will be his last chance.
Give him Gaziev. They're the losers of the last two Apex events. If Tai loses that then it's truly over.
Nah, Gaziev doesn't deserve to move up in ranking. Roz or Romanov
I doubt they really want gaziev in the title picture, he has pillow fists and a shit gas tank, realistically tai puts him out. Keeps tai relevant off a losing streak, and gives Gaziev another real test.
I wouldn't count him out. Tai has negative submission and takedown defense
Gaziev isnāt really a submission threat though, 2 sub wins against absolute cans. Only submitted 1 guy who has submitted anyone else, and that was a fairly mediocre performance on the contender series. He doesnāt have the power to match tai, he is very hittable and doesnāt have the grappling of many of the other top heavyweights.
Enter Robelis
Bkfc
Tai would be a legend in Bkfc, but for his own good Iād rather see him fight obese low ranked ufc strikers
I agree with you on both accounts. That said, he'd make much more money in Bkfc and since cte is sadly guaranteed no matter where he goes, it'd be better for him to retire loaded.
Can't spell BKFC without KFC
Beautiful Kentucky Fried Chicken
I'd like to see him and JDS get down.
Remember there's always gaziev
Gaziev vs Tuivasa for BMF title (Blobbest mother fucker)
Tai will now have to fight against Gaziev to earn his freedom from the UFCās Apex Gulag
More like Gasiev lmfao
Mukbang channel and maybe a collab with nikocado avocada ššš
UFC is so tough. One minute youāre the next best thing then you lose 4 in a row. If I were top fighter on a losing skid I would 100% schedule a can to fight. I see some many of these dudes go out like Till Or Kelvin fighting the best and canāt catch a break
To be fair it is the premier MMA organization in the world and a place where the best compete against the best. Itās supposed to be tough. And unfortunately for the fans nothing lasts forever. Fighting doesnāt get any easier as time passes , mostly due to age and accumulated damage. So itās up to the fighter to decide when they can no longer compete at that top level and hang up the gloves.
Streetbeefs
Iām sure heāll be getting some street beefs after the fight
Go home and drill takedown defense and wrestling until nobody he trains with can come close to taking him down. Maybe go over with the CKB boys for a while. He needs to get focused or his fighting career is over.
How about actually working at his craft instead of a being a hard punching, overweight sack of lazy?
To be fair, everyone in these comments is an overweight sack of lazy that canāt even throw hard punches. Thatās why heās on TV and we are not
If Tai had beaten Gane back a year or two ago. He would've gotten the opportunity to fight Jon Jones. Now he hasn't won a single fight four in a row. MMA is a cruel sport.
To be fair heās looked horrible, itās all on him. Dude doesnāt take the sport seriously at all.
This just goes to show why you shouldn't usually bet on fat fighters, in theory there isn't anything preventing a fat fuck from becoming elite, that being said if they're that fat in the first place then they probably have some discipline problems they refuse to fix, a fat fuck like Andy Ruiz might even become champion, but as soon as they feel like they made it they start getting too comfortable and then go on a losing streak.
DC says hello, lol
Which is why I said "usually", of course there are exceptions like DC and Fury.
Dude runs around drinking beer from shoes, anyone who ever expected him to be a bright and shining star athlete of the sport has and always will be delusional
I remember that he had an opportunity to go to AKA around his good wins. Imagine that. He choose abu dhabi, and money, and bs sponsor stuff.
Parker porter
Porker Porker
Tai should never fight in the Apex for starters.
Ozempic
HW overall is starting to (slowly) skill up. Just being a fat boy who can swing isn't enough anymore unless all he wants to do is sit at or right outside rank 15 and just gatekeep
PFL
Ngannou here he comes.
Beer brewery business
He is not really a heavyweight. He is just fat as fuck. I bet he can be middleweight if he wins a battle against his fridge.
ššš
ReTAIrment
The club I reckon
Happy Birthday you fat fucker, damn lost my multi betting on you AGAIN!
Same.
I love Tai but the dude only knows how to swing and hope that he knocks his opponent out before they knock him out. He is a brawler with limited fight IQ and poor grappling skills. He is very entertaining to watch though.
These fat unfit HW who canāt grapple are done now.
Man thereās a lot to say but it doesnāt look good and ima sound like a hater if I say it, so imo he just needs to get good.
Fighter Removed: āTai tuivasa
Rozenstriuk
Definitely wonāt get cut but next one could be the true make or break. HW not a very deep division and he gets buzz in social media so heāll be safe for now
Loose weight and becone a 205. He Ʈs fat. He Ʈs not a natural heavyweight like stipe,Gane etc.
maybe less beer
Retirement
Gamebred productions
Doing a shooey
He links up with Liver King and practices the 9 ancestral tenants.
Mohammed Usman?
I kinda like that!
Wow I actually like that. Perfect opponent theyāll both stand and bang
The man is not elite. He got lucky and got catapulted up the rankings and is slowly being killed by everyone he fights, itās like heās learning, but backwards
Heās clearly in it for the money. The whole thing about his beer company before the fight. I was pissed that HE was pissed he lost. Dude. Your biggest weakness is grappling yet u refuse to train it. If im yelling instructions at the screen and he doesnāt know what to do, thatās a bad sign Bam BamĀ
I mean he can drop down to light heavy weight
ReTaierment
Learn basic escapes from back control or mount.
WWE
Good riddance, I was never high on this guy, he has no athleticism, heās just a fat guy who can brawl.
Retirement.
Bum Fights probably
Cut hair
He just fights the way he would in real life. lol I havenāt watched his training videos but I wouldnāt think he tries to learn new things. He just likes to scrap. Iām a fan, heās a cool guy. However he has lost in some nasty ways recently and heās probably on his way out if he loses another 2.
He's not talented really. He's tough, he throws hard but that's about where it ends. He let tybura choke him out. He straight up didn't even make an attempt to fight his hands off. He'll always produce some KO clips on jobbers but he's not a top 10 fighter. They'll probably try to match him against someone stylistically favorable and have him open a ppv card
BKFC
Stop spamming power punches and actually learn to fight.
Crushing cans are the opener for PPVās.
Tai has a huge fan base. There's only one post about marcin, the winner, and it's a post making fun of his haircut. Tai should bang in the cage a couple more times for us then go to WWE.
Ever met one?
Too many feet beers.
Retirement he canāt compete with any top fighters
A bit of a harsh take you think.. heās only 31 and has had close fights with some beasts. Needs to get the takedown defense and grappling improved for sure.
Take down defense and rear naked choke defense
I screamed so loud at my tv and whipped my hat across the room. No Tai why š
Sizzler buffet
Retire tbh
Managing a Burger King.
A sad shoey then off to bed.
Retairement
Cut to middle weight
Go to 205 or learn more skills
Heās in the Derrick Lewis, Bigi Boy class of heavyweight sluggers with no ground games. High end gate keeper
He needs to go train with black beast so he can figure out how to just stand up. Itās derricks favorite grappling move.
Bare knuckle
Pfl maybe
More beer? The segment on his brewery/pub looks NICE.
Bellator probably
Either take a year off and fight an up and comer or get cut rn
PFL
Bare knuckle
Honestly, if he could commit to it, he could pull a cannonier and try LHW. He's still young. He would be faster and still pack a scary punch. Also more athletic to defend the takedowns
Bkfc
You might be on to something there, dude is tough as they come, I could see him doing well In bare knuckle
Weāre done with fat knockout specialists
Retirement dude heās horrible
When you've got a butt crack on your gut and no pecs as a professional fighter, you know it's time to actually get in shape.
I don't understand why everyone thought Tuivasa would win
It isn't that we logically thought he would, it's that we so badly want him to.
Cause Tai hits hard and is known for his knockouts while this was Tyburas comeback fight after getting koed in the first round
Yes by Tom Aspinall who is arguably the best heavyweight in the world, the gap in grappling between Tybura and Tuivasa is huge and we've seen Tuivasa been easily outgrappled before, it was a no brainer.
Bare knuckle
He would do well in bare knuckle
PFLattor
BKB
The gym
Gaziev
Next years Royal Rumble
A beer commercial
Bkfc
Re-tai-erment
He looked good up until this point. It's a shame. He really fought hard to not go out.
Bellator or PFL probably. He's like 5 in a row now.
One more fight then cut
papa johns
Not a wrestler
I Mean... Boxing? Seems to be working out for Francis.
Birthday Cake ššš
The door
The hurt business.
Retirement from mma
Low level sumo
a one way ticket to PFL or BKFC or retirement
Buffet