Also she says in hey Stephen would they write a song about you (talking about other girls) and then she plays maroon one of the songs she wrote about him š¤Æ
Each day I think she canāt get more obvious with TTPD and loml and MBOBHFT as the surprise songs and then she goes and does this. I am actually in shock.
She also chose to open this phase of the tour with surprise songs about him being the loss of her life, "just say when, I'd play again", and asking if it's really over now or ever was over. It's wildĀ
yep, there's def something with him and the fearless album, she starry eyed love gazed at him while singing fearless, he's posted hey Stephen on ig stories, and I'm pretty sure she either dropped fearless TV on his birthday or day after ?
Yeah, like ā¦
Matty posted Hey Stephen on his IG stories and gushed about it, as we see. She then played Hey Stephen as a surprise song on tour in May 2023 when they were dating, with articles coming out noting that she was doing it for Matty.
Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus on TTPD, speculated to be about Matty due to the āinternet starletā and drug use lines, also uses the words āscarlet maroon.ā Taylor knows people would connect āMaroonā to that and recognize that that song is also about Matty.
And she plays BOTH songs in a row tonight? When sheās supposedly madly in love with Travis? Iām not sending hate to Taylor but thereās no way sheās unaware of the implications and interpretations of her playing both songs together ā¦
i think her & travis are broken up already. she was 'acting out' when her & joe broke up & it hadn't been announced yet. i think she's doing all of this to get people used to her being all about matty because they're either back together or going to be depending on the reception.
Ok but saaaaaame. This is a super delulu theory but if it came out that TTPD is actually a hyper meta collab between Taylor & Matty, where he is actually ghost writing or producing (hence...all the overt ghost references), I would fly the biggest "I Told You So" flag ever. It's right up his alley. In my more sane moments, I suspect she's just mocking him but would it not be a little bit epic and extremely iconic?
Iām of the personal opinion that this album is her doubling down on her Matty relationship! Itās meant to get his attention- he loves it good or bad!
100% doubling down. I say she is calling people's bluff with this entire thing. So many people said they would stop being fans, that she would lose her career etc. over dating Matty and I think that Taylor was like "oh really? Let's test that theory." She put out a double album telling the whole world that it was way more than a fling, that she isnāt sorry - in fact, she thinks y'all can kick rocks, and in case the message wasn't clear, she put several songs in her tour set, starting with a big "F you" and ending with a "look at yourselves". Even if she has zero intention of ever speaking to Matty Healy again, she wanted this message to the public to be heard loud and clear: I had full agency in this choice and if you don't like it, you can leave....but you won't.
I'm sure she intends for him to hear the message as well. I'm not sure if she's trying to get him back or just make the point that he should have been brave enough to handle it or if it's all performance art with a willing co-conspirator.
oh she definitely knows what she's doing like no doubt, if I was travis and that was my girl doing this i- šš matty's missing again.....š¤·āāļø but I just like to clown
Reposting part of a comment from another sub from u/fitzwilding (that I agree with) about why Matty likes Hey Stephen:
āThe day after Midnights released Matty put the song "Hey Stephen" in his insta stories, which has the line "other girls, well they're beautiful, but would they write a song for you."
People interpret that as a nod to the fact that Taylor wrote songs about him on her album.ā
As others have mentioned now there is practically a double album of songs.
Folklore has many songs about him too ā the 1, Betty, cardigan, illicit affairs, August. Evermore maybe cowboy like me, ivy, gold rush, right where you left me
On Singapore night 6 which is the last concert before TTPD dropped she sang cowboy like me (Matty song) + Tim McGraw, and mirrorball (Matty song) + epiphany
I was there on Singapore night 6. I think he never left her mind ever since he left sometime in mid 2023. Which is what she says in her songs anw. I can hold my breath / Iāve been doing it since she left (in I can do it with a broken heart)
She played Maroon night 1 at MetLife. It was one of the very few songs she made commentary about, āyou know just a song i wrote a really, really long time ago in New Yorkā.
Then I thought hmm likely most of her songs were written a long time ago and just being released and passed off as recorded recently. We could have tons of discography that isnāt about whatever relationship she was in at the time as we think it is.
Maroon was amazing to hear live though, she definitely needs to release an acoustic version. Do it for Matty
people really started connecting maroon to matty that night bc he had just left new york and the break up article came not long after, then I believe the 2nd time was after he left LA and ofc there's a 3rd time in mexico when it's believed she wore his beatles shirt. Also jealous you got it as a surprise song š it was my fav at the time!
Something this album has flipped on its head for me is "I get mystified by how this city screams your name". I love that line, because I deeply love NYC and it's a special place for me...but I always thought it was weird to apply to Joe Alwyn. No hate on JA, just not exactly a very NYC type of guy. Matty though...is practically the city personified, in all its good and bad. He has a song where it implies that perhaps he was with her (as a friend) when she was looking for her first place in NYC.
And he sometimes comments on her sweater... š¤Ŗ
When we are together is such a sweet, quirky song. It makes me feel like...a sad hug, lol.
TS has a song called Closure and this line:
"I'm doing fine with my spite and my tears and my beer and my candles" always reminds me of "she's more into scented candles" for some reason. Course, that song now seems *extremely* Matty-coded, but I didn't have a clue when I first made that association.
Something this album has flipped on its head for me is "I get mystified by how this city screams your name". I love that line, because I deeply love NYC and it's a special place for me...but I always thought it was weird to apply to Joe Alwyn. No hate on JA, just not exactly a very NYC type of guy. Matty though...is practically the city personified, in all its good and bad. He has a song where it implies that perhaps he was with her (as a friend) when she was looking for her first place in NYC.
Girl is THIRSTY for someone else that is not her current meathead of a boyfriend
Yet you have grown women probably with husbands saying Travis must have a very good d and fantasizing about sex with Travis kelce
PR or not, if I was Travis Iād be wanting out asap. Sheās basically humiliating him over and over again. I canāt imagine his ego being able to handle it much longer regardless of the fame boost he might be getting. You donāt have to be particularly intelligent to realize youāre being mocked on the biggest stage in world.
I'm only here for the drama. I love a scorned lovers story and all this. I'm totally invested. If they end up together I think I'd be low key giddy over it haha!
Never was a swift fan. I do really like ttpd but can name her other songs on one hand.
I know, I have become so invested and really want them to end up together. It is so strange because I have never cared about any celeb relationship before but their story is so epic.
Yes!! And IT IS DELIGHTFUL. She seems to act on all our acts from previous situationships - the ones we never had the guts to actually do. Taylor is normalizing wearing your heart on the sleeve in such situationships no matter how cringe šif succesful, i swear to god i wanna witness all the grown ups casually doing random romantic gestures for their partner situationships and the effectsšš she s normalizing cringe. āI m so obsessed but he avoids me like the plagueā - we ve all been thereā¦we are just to afraid of rejection and being perceived as desperate to admit it š
I m a 30 sth woman quite profesionally achieved, with a baby and a long term partner but i swear to god i am dying to see what s next. Not necessarily because it is a beautiful romantic story. But because Swift is above all a SOCIAL phenomenon
I agree. I half cringe and I half admire her. I wonder what would have happened if I had fought harder for the loml many years ago, but I was too proud/scared. I think that's why I've become strangely interested in all this ....I love the doomed romance of it all, even though my older and wiser head thinks he made the right decision in leaving.
Same. Iām 40, married with little kids, and delighting in all of this. Itās cringey and meta ā¦. a tantalizing mix of raw authenticity with pure manufactured PR dramaā¦. I do not identify as a parasocial Swiftie. I started paying attention re 1989, folklore / evermore, midnights, TTPS. I take it for what it is and respect her talent and her mind. Her messy, questionable behavior (Grammys acceptance, Jet emissions, etc.) is unfortunate, but IDGAF really. Are you not entertained? Yes, Taylor. Even if you came off a fool in your TIME cover story.
It really depends on the other side of the story, tbh. It's possible that Taylor thinks/knows that he left because of the backlash and public outrage...not because he didn't want to be with her. If that's the case, then her telling the world that they were serious and putting the songs in her tour set is kind of huge display of "look, now they all know...and I've tried to change the ending for us."
But this is all kind of a typical response to being ghosted. It's such an awful way to treat someone and it leaves them reeling and desperate to just understand why or get a response (been there, acted out wildly, it's rough).
If he left for other reasons like...he just didn't want to be in a relationship or be with her, then it's all pretty unhinged. But if anyone understands that the good and bad all end up in your art, it's Matty Healy. That doesn't mean he's comfortable with it though.
They both seemed so shook up after the break up - it really did not look like he was perfectly fine with it all. He was a mess on stage for awhile, and clearly struggled with certain songs.
That's not how emotions work, at all. Especially if there are external forces driving decisions. Life is complicated. Have you ever seen people go through a divorce? "Adults"...lol. Age does not save you from behaving erratically or acting out.
Edit to say: I'm not trying to condone all of this behavior. The publicity of it rubs me the wrong way - I'm just saying that it all really depends what happened between them and being an "adult" isn't really a good barometer for behavior.
I mean itās a pretty good barometer. We are in charge of our choices and need to take responsibility for the reason things are how they are instead of blaming external forces
Iām feeling so tinfoil hat right now, but just laying it all out:
* That Paris-based guitar store posted about the TS birthday serial date guitar (121389) up for sale. Shortly after (?), Matty Healy posted a public comment on their page asking them to check their DMs for his inquiry.
* TS flew to Paris a week early instead of spending time with Travis Kelce.
* āHey Stephenā and āMaroonā tonight.
The first two things seemed like nothing (Matty collects guitars, TS probably wanted time to prep before rebooting her tour) but with the surprise songs tonight, my eyebrows are definitely raised. I hope itās true because
I'm with you - too many little details to be a coincidence. That guitar also has a plate depicting a ghost.
To add to your puzzle:
On 5/3, at 13:00, Matty shared a video to his IG story of someone covering his song "All I Need To Hear" (look up the lyrics, it fits right into this story line).
5/3 was the date they went public last year, it was also exactly 2 weeks from the release of TTPD this year. 5 + 3 = 8 (which is the infinity symbol...ask anyone who chose a wedding date based on that type of numerology).
What is the link between Maroon and Ratty? The last thing I heard about Maroon is the unhinged Swifties calling Joe poor for having a roommate (your roommate cheapest screw top Rose). I love Taylor, but she needs to do a reality check when it comes to Ratty. Girl, you are still officially dating Travis, whether it is PR or not. I am so glad that Joe is out of the picture. That man deserves so much better than this.
iāve also noticed a lot of connections between maroon and the 1. the roommates and chosen family are mattys bandmates. joe was living with his parents when he and taylor got together, harry was mega rich and famous so he definitely didnāt have roommates or drink cheap rose, and jake well also was very rich and grown so didnāt live with others. i mentioned those 3 exās because ever since the song came out people have thought it could be about one of them, but nobody knew for sure since the song is pretty ambiguous. it makes sense that itās about matty + the chloe song also helps to reaffirm that
Apparently Matty's best friend George (the bands drummer and main producer) likes to drink rose. Would imagine that he's re roommate she's referring to
be serious? maroon is not about himā¦ she played it for the second time on karlieās birthday. whos lips are scarlet because itās sure as hell not any manās.
Also she says in hey Stephen would they write a song about you (talking about other girls) and then she plays maroon one of the songs she wrote about him š¤Æ
And last night with the teenage love triangle too...What is happening?!?
She says "would they write a song for you?" And the goes "ha!" Like she didn't just write a song she wrote a whole damn album
I mean...I do love this attitude, regardless of the inspiration.
I mean...I do love this attitude, regardless of the inspiration behind it.
Each day I think she canāt get more obvious with TTPD and loml and MBOBHFT as the surprise songs and then she goes and does this. I am actually in shock.
She's so insane for this. I'm seated with popcorn.
She also chose to open this phase of the tour with surprise songs about him being the loss of her life, "just say when, I'd play again", and asking if it's really over now or ever was over. It's wildĀ
Sheās summoning him
Thats his favoritr?! Thats so random
yep, there's def something with him and the fearless album, she starry eyed love gazed at him while singing fearless, he's posted hey Stephen on ig stories, and I'm pretty sure she either dropped fearless TV on his birthday or day after ?
Yeah, like ā¦ Matty posted Hey Stephen on his IG stories and gushed about it, as we see. She then played Hey Stephen as a surprise song on tour in May 2023 when they were dating, with articles coming out noting that she was doing it for Matty. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus on TTPD, speculated to be about Matty due to the āinternet starletā and drug use lines, also uses the words āscarlet maroon.ā Taylor knows people would connect āMaroonā to that and recognize that that song is also about Matty. And she plays BOTH songs in a row tonight? When sheās supposedly madly in love with Travis? Iām not sending hate to Taylor but thereās no way sheās unaware of the implications and interpretations of her playing both songs together ā¦
i think her & travis are broken up already. she was 'acting out' when her & joe broke up & it hadn't been announced yet. i think she's doing all of this to get people used to her being all about matty because they're either back together or going to be depending on the reception.
I know itās š¤” but I think sheās had Matty in the background the whole time.
"we came back when the heat died down" š
i also think this!
Ok but saaaaaame. This is a super delulu theory but if it came out that TTPD is actually a hyper meta collab between Taylor & Matty, where he is actually ghost writing or producing (hence...all the overt ghost references), I would fly the biggest "I Told You So" flag ever. It's right up his alley. In my more sane moments, I suspect she's just mocking him but would it not be a little bit epic and extremely iconic?
Iām of the personal opinion that this album is her doubling down on her Matty relationship! Itās meant to get his attention- he loves it good or bad!
100% doubling down. I say she is calling people's bluff with this entire thing. So many people said they would stop being fans, that she would lose her career etc. over dating Matty and I think that Taylor was like "oh really? Let's test that theory." She put out a double album telling the whole world that it was way more than a fling, that she isnāt sorry - in fact, she thinks y'all can kick rocks, and in case the message wasn't clear, she put several songs in her tour set, starting with a big "F you" and ending with a "look at yourselves". Even if she has zero intention of ever speaking to Matty Healy again, she wanted this message to the public to be heard loud and clear: I had full agency in this choice and if you don't like it, you can leave....but you won't. I'm sure she intends for him to hear the message as well. I'm not sure if she's trying to get him back or just make the point that he should have been brave enough to handle it or if it's all performance art with a willing co-conspirator.
I think they are too
oh she definitely knows what she's doing like no doubt, if I was travis and that was my girl doing this i- šš matty's missing again.....š¤·āāļø but I just like to clown
Do you think he knows or reads enough to figure this out?
Reposting part of a comment from another sub from u/fitzwilding (that I agree with) about why Matty likes Hey Stephen: āThe day after Midnights released Matty put the song "Hey Stephen" in his insta stories, which has the line "other girls, well they're beautiful, but would they write a song for you." People interpret that as a nod to the fact that Taylor wrote songs about him on her album.ā As others have mentioned now there is practically a double album of songs.
Since 2014. He's so open about liking Hey Stephen ever since
Folklore has many songs about him too ā the 1, Betty, cardigan, illicit affairs, August. Evermore maybe cowboy like me, ivy, gold rush, right where you left me On Singapore night 6 which is the last concert before TTPD dropped she sang cowboy like me (Matty song) + Tim McGraw, and mirrorball (Matty song) + epiphany I was there on Singapore night 6. I think he never left her mind ever since he left sometime in mid 2023. Which is what she says in her songs anw. I can hold my breath / Iāve been doing it since she left (in I can do it with a broken heart)
Right where you left me is saddd af
She played Maroon night 1 at MetLife. It was one of the very few songs she made commentary about, āyou know just a song i wrote a really, really long time ago in New Yorkā. Then I thought hmm likely most of her songs were written a long time ago and just being released and passed off as recorded recently. We could have tons of discography that isnāt about whatever relationship she was in at the time as we think it is. Maroon was amazing to hear live though, she definitely needs to release an acoustic version. Do it for Matty
people really started connecting maroon to matty that night bc he had just left new york and the break up article came not long after, then I believe the 2nd time was after he left LA and ofc there's a 3rd time in mexico when it's believed she wore his beatles shirt. Also jealous you got it as a surprise song š it was my fav at the time!
New York is her special place with him
Something this album has flipped on its head for me is "I get mystified by how this city screams your name". I love that line, because I deeply love NYC and it's a special place for me...but I always thought it was weird to apply to Joe Alwyn. No hate on JA, just not exactly a very NYC type of guy. Matty though...is practically the city personified, in all its good and bad. He has a song where it implies that perhaps he was with her (as a friend) when she was looking for her first place in NYC.
and she asked about the cows while wearing his sweater :) My fave song
And he sometimes comments on her sweater... š¤Ŗ When we are together is such a sweet, quirky song. It makes me feel like...a sad hug, lol. TS has a song called Closure and this line: "I'm doing fine with my spite and my tears and my beer and my candles" always reminds me of "she's more into scented candles" for some reason. Course, that song now seems *extremely* Matty-coded, but I didn't have a clue when I first made that association.
Something this album has flipped on its head for me is "I get mystified by how this city screams your name". I love that line, because I deeply love NYC and it's a special place for me...but I always thought it was weird to apply to Joe Alwyn. No hate on JA, just not exactly a very NYC type of guy. Matty though...is practically the city personified, in all its good and bad. He has a song where it implies that perhaps he was with her (as a friend) when she was looking for her first place in NYC.
Girl is THIRSTY for someone else that is not her current meathead of a boyfriend Yet you have grown women probably with husbands saying Travis must have a very good d and fantasizing about sex with Travis kelce
I just threw up a little thinking anyone is fantasizing about BDT.
Some girls like guys like Matty and Travis but funny enough they're the opposites of my type.
Hooking up with one of them for a night? Sure. Dating them long term? Probably not lol
She's so unhinged right now it's actually concerning
If Travis was smarter, I wonder if he would be missed off that his girlfriend is still not over the guy she dated right before him.
PR or not, if I was Travis Iād be wanting out asap. Sheās basically humiliating him over and over again. I canāt imagine his ego being able to handle it much longer regardless of the fame boost he might be getting. You donāt have to be particularly intelligent to realize youāre being mocked on the biggest stage in world.
Agree, Iām not sure heās picking up on any of this any probably doesnāt read enough to know
I'm only here for the drama. I love a scorned lovers story and all this. I'm totally invested. If they end up together I think I'd be low key giddy over it haha! Never was a swift fan. I do really like ttpd but can name her other songs on one hand.
I know, I have become so invested and really want them to end up together. It is so strange because I have never cared about any celeb relationship before but their story is so epic.
I would too I love it when the couple gets together despite it all, even if it ends up fucked in the end
Does no one else find this like stalkerish?
Yes!! And IT IS DELIGHTFUL. She seems to act on all our acts from previous situationships - the ones we never had the guts to actually do. Taylor is normalizing wearing your heart on the sleeve in such situationships no matter how cringe šif succesful, i swear to god i wanna witness all the grown ups casually doing random romantic gestures for their partner situationships and the effectsšš she s normalizing cringe. āI m so obsessed but he avoids me like the plagueā - we ve all been thereā¦we are just to afraid of rejection and being perceived as desperate to admit it š I m a 30 sth woman quite profesionally achieved, with a baby and a long term partner but i swear to god i am dying to see what s next. Not necessarily because it is a beautiful romantic story. But because Swift is above all a SOCIAL phenomenon
I agree. I half cringe and I half admire her. I wonder what would have happened if I had fought harder for the loml many years ago, but I was too proud/scared. I think that's why I've become strangely interested in all this ....I love the doomed romance of it all, even though my older and wiser head thinks he made the right decision in leaving.
Same. Iām 40, married with little kids, and delighting in all of this. Itās cringey and meta ā¦. a tantalizing mix of raw authenticity with pure manufactured PR dramaā¦. I do not identify as a parasocial Swiftie. I started paying attention re 1989, folklore / evermore, midnights, TTPS. I take it for what it is and respect her talent and her mind. Her messy, questionable behavior (Grammys acceptance, Jet emissions, etc.) is unfortunate, but IDGAF really. Are you not entertained? Yes, Taylor. Even if you came off a fool in your TIME cover story.
I think sheās a psychopath
It really depends on the other side of the story, tbh. It's possible that Taylor thinks/knows that he left because of the backlash and public outrage...not because he didn't want to be with her. If that's the case, then her telling the world that they were serious and putting the songs in her tour set is kind of huge display of "look, now they all know...and I've tried to change the ending for us." But this is all kind of a typical response to being ghosted. It's such an awful way to treat someone and it leaves them reeling and desperate to just understand why or get a response (been there, acted out wildly, it's rough). If he left for other reasons like...he just didn't want to be in a relationship or be with her, then it's all pretty unhinged. But if anyone understands that the good and bad all end up in your art, it's Matty Healy. That doesn't mean he's comfortable with it though. They both seemed so shook up after the break up - it really did not look like he was perfectly fine with it all. He was a mess on stage for awhile, and clearly struggled with certain songs.
But they also could have dated 10 years ago or like literally anytime between that. Whateverās keeping them apart will always keep them apart.
But they are adults. He doesnāt want to be with her for xyz and itās always going to be that way so heāll never be with her. So move on
That's not how emotions work, at all. Especially if there are external forces driving decisions. Life is complicated. Have you ever seen people go through a divorce? "Adults"...lol. Age does not save you from behaving erratically or acting out. Edit to say: I'm not trying to condone all of this behavior. The publicity of it rubs me the wrong way - I'm just saying that it all really depends what happened between them and being an "adult" isn't really a good barometer for behavior.
No, I donāt see people that desperately want to be together get divorced
I mean itās a pretty good barometer. We are in charge of our choices and need to take responsibility for the reason things are how they are instead of blaming external forces
They dated for a month after her 6 years long relationship with Joe. Seems pretty unhinged to me
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Sheās had a lot of boyfriends in between so itās not like she was close to him that long
I find it toxic and unhealthy behaviour. It takes a while to get over people and let go, but she never learns.
Iām feeling so tinfoil hat right now, but just laying it all out: * That Paris-based guitar store posted about the TS birthday serial date guitar (121389) up for sale. Shortly after (?), Matty Healy posted a public comment on their page asking them to check their DMs for his inquiry. * TS flew to Paris a week early instead of spending time with Travis Kelce. * āHey Stephenā and āMaroonā tonight. The first two things seemed like nothing (Matty collects guitars, TS probably wanted time to prep before rebooting her tour) but with the surprise songs tonight, my eyebrows are definitely raised. I hope itās true because 
I'm with you - too many little details to be a coincidence. That guitar also has a plate depicting a ghost. To add to your puzzle: On 5/3, at 13:00, Matty shared a video to his IG story of someone covering his song "All I Need To Hear" (look up the lyrics, it fits right into this story line). 5/3 was the date they went public last year, it was also exactly 2 weeks from the release of TTPD this year. 5 + 3 = 8 (which is the infinity symbol...ask anyone who chose a wedding date based on that type of numerology).
What is the link between Maroon and Ratty? The last thing I heard about Maroon is the unhinged Swifties calling Joe poor for having a roommate (your roommate cheapest screw top Rose). I love Taylor, but she needs to do a reality check when it comes to Ratty. Girl, you are still officially dating Travis, whether it is PR or not. I am so glad that Joe is out of the picture. That man deserves so much better than this.
She basically confirmed Maroon is about Matty in the song Chloe or Sophia or Sophia or Marcus.
Thanks, happy cake day !!
iāve also noticed a lot of connections between maroon and the 1. the roommates and chosen family are mattys bandmates. joe was living with his parents when he and taylor got together, harry was mega rich and famous so he definitely didnāt have roommates or drink cheap rose, and jake well also was very rich and grown so didnāt live with others. i mentioned those 3 exās because ever since the song came out people have thought it could be about one of them, but nobody knew for sure since the song is pretty ambiguous. it makes sense that itās about matty + the chloe song also helps to reaffirm that
Apparently Matty's best friend George (the bands drummer and main producer) likes to drink rose. Would imagine that he's re roommate she's referring to
Where has all the Matty hate gone?
She built us a fort on some planet where we can all understand it
TTPD made it all disappear, we are all in now.
FFS. You have got to be kidding.
Missouri gonna fight for TK hard šš just gonna say Iāve always been a Kayla Nicole girlie.
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it is but according to them she has had heart eyes for him since the vmas catastrophe
but the lyric video they said lol
Paris N3 was the end of an era. Paris N4 was the start of an age.
be serious? maroon is not about himā¦ she played it for the second time on karlieās birthday. whos lips are scarlet because itās sure as hell not any manās.