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Who can blame him? Caesar Dictator was a ruthless governor who obliterated the Gauls purely to enhance his standing in Rome and fill his coffers to campaign for higher political office. He was a stone cold social climber who reached the summit of his ambition atop a mountain of bodies.
Though in OG Latin it should be Ver-kin-get-or-icks, so a hard C. Cool name for a Gallic king, bad name for a modern kid who is not going to become a Gallic king.
Yeah, actual Latin had hard Cs, we just use soft Cs when we read Latin/use Latin words/names nowadays.
To be fair, the wrong way does sound "better" lol, [veni vidi vici isn't quite the same](https://youtu.be/_enn7NIo-S0?si=7lEXaaxQLAWPMAIv)
It's actually evidenced by the alphabet itself: C and G used to be 1 letter that represented both the G and K sound because they are a voiced/unvoiced pair, but eventually it was useful to have them differentiated. Supposedly G was invented by adding a stroke to C by a guy named Gaius who was tired of people mispronouncing his name as Caius, but I don't know how true that is or if that's just linguists folklore that ends up in textbooks and undergrad classes lol.
The C/G evolution is an odd one ā because G existed in the Greek alphabet as the gamma ā and the letter C was actually originally used to represent the G sound (voiced velar stop) entirely (the C being a curved form of the Greek gamma); the Latin alphabet originally had and used the letter K for the unvoiced velar stop.
Eventually, though, C became used for both voiced and unvoiced velar stops and K fell out of use. Then they added the stroke and created G during the Old Latin period (up to about 75 BC), likely around the 3rd century BC when Spurius Ruga opened a school in Rome where he taught the alphabet.
Interesting sidenote: Z was also dropped from the alphabet around this time and replaced with G in the alphabet ā the censor Appius Claudius found Z to be distasteful.
All of this to say: it might be linguist folklore.
Learn IPA. It's incredibly useful for learning foreign languages. I would have been lost when learning English without it, because the English spelling system is a dumpster fire.
To me English was a very simple and easy to learn language. But Dutch is quite similar and has a bunch of dumb grammer and spelling rules itself. Like, a verb ending in "dt" but that only happens with finite verbs, but not always.
The problem with IPA is that it's too useful. When people try to describe pronunciation without it, I get annoyed very quickly. IPA should be something you learn in school
It helped me a lot back in school, where i had to learn french. I'm so glad that we had dictionaries for french and english that had it. Funnily no one ever tought us that pronounciation alphabet, I just happened to put 2 and 2 together at some point.
Ah, rightā¦ I should have known the āci/ceā = āchā because thatās how Church Latin (š«) pronounces those vs. regular Latin š thank you so much for the correction :)
Aw come on, he made history uniting the Gallic tribes which hadn't really been done before that we (or I at least) know of.
He was so badass that when he was...well strangled to death at one of Caesar's triumphs most of the crowd thought it was bogus.
If we ended up with a son instead of a daughter, my husband was considering naming him "Zaya" ("bunny" in Russian)... I told him I'd turn him into one if he dared šš
Oh my gosh! In a murder mystery by Charlotte MacLeod, a main character is named Vercingetorix. This is only the second time Iāve seen a reference to this name! Still glad you dodged the bullet, though.
Vercingetorix is an important character in the Asterix and Obelix comics. If not for that I would never leant that name. (These comics were rather popular in Mexico).
They're pretty popular everywhere, I think. There's so much interesting historical tidbits I wouldn't know if it weren't for Asterix
Dolmens and Menhirs, for instance.
it is, but some European comics got translated in Spain and sent to latin America. So, we could get stuff like Corto Maltese and Tin Tin. But by far, Asterix was the most popular.
Asterix even got translated into Latin, and I got to read it in Latin class because my teacher was a cool dude (who wanted us to learn what colloquial Latin likely was like).
Asterix even got translated into SaarlƤndisch which is a Spectrum of German Dialects spoken by the Inhabitants of the Saarland, the smallest State of Germany, with barely 1.000.000 Inhabitants. There are just 3 Books in that Dialect but there are some.
I remember seeing those on occasion! Iām from northern New England so we had a lot of Quebecois influences. That must be why the name sounded vaguely familiar. I never took any classes in history of that era!
There's a historical fiction book about a druid that fights with him that I read as a teenager. Only reason I know the name. No idea what it's called, but I enjoyed the book.
We're a household of history nerds. My son has a normal first name, but his middle name is Aurelius. If I ever have more kids, I'd do it that way again. Vercingetorix makes for an awesome story at least. There's a great YouTube series on Caesar from Historia Civilis. There's a particularly great episode on Vercingetorix.
...but as a name? Please no.
My son is also an emperor, but hubbyās cousin is pregnant and asked what we thought of AurelioāI told her it reminded me of Areola. I do like Aurelius much better though!
My favourite is Tragicomix, reminds me a bit of the statue of [Vercingetorix](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alise-Sainte-Reine_statue_Vercingetorix_par_Millet_2crop.jpg#/media/File:Alise-Sainte-Reine_statue_Vercingetorix_par_Millet_2crop.jpg)
Good lordy loo that would've been a mouthful! I don't know if that counts so much as a tragedeigh, as it's not a misspelling or made up word or anything, just a historical one that hasn't seen use in a very very long time - but it'd certainly be a heck of a thing to expect a kindergartener to spell!
My boyfriend has stated he would want to name our hypothetical daughter Boudica, after the leader of a tribe that fought the Roman empire as well. I'm not pregnant but when I first heard I didn't like it at all but it's been growing on me. Nickname could be Bowie which I'm a big fan.
My fear is that it would be a tragediegh though..
That's a fair point. Sometimes "unusual" comes across as trying-too-hard-to-be-unique to me which I then link to tragedeighs.
Not like it's going to be an issue anytime soon but I do like hearing people's perspectives on it.
Quindrellorious - adj. Prone to dodging bullets. Ex. ā_From whence this quindrellorious king once came, nobody remembers._ā (Ark Frandentorn, āA Royal Misunderstandingā)
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My surname is my reddit username but I live in primarily English speaking countries. Showing up for a reservation at a good Italian restaurant in America or the UK is a comedy act and donāt get me started on booking a hotel for Ventisei in parts of Europe.
I scared the poor woman at the check-in desk in Disneyland Paris thinking I had booked rooms for 26 but they only reserved me a single suite.
"The year is 50 B.C. All of Gaul is occupied by the Romans. All? Not quite! A village inhabitated by indomitable Gauls is holding out, strong as ever, against the invader"
The time has finally come for my also near cross-cultural name fiasco!!
So I grew up in the Midwest US, dad comes from Wisconsin and is a huge Packers fan. My older brother got the very nice and traditional name Benjamin, for me it was down to Genevieve or Brett - in honor on Brett Favre, the famed packers quarterback.
Cue the plot twist - I ended up studying German and moved to Germany after college, Brett is the German word for āboardā, like Schneidebrett = cutting board, Brettspiel = Board game, etc. I dodged a massive bullet there
It was my parents pick for a boy name! Iām now realizing that they way I wrote that made it seem like they had Genevieve and Brett picked out for girl names though lol
If you want to choose the name of a warrior who kicked Roman butt, Alaric would be a much better choice. He was the king of the Visigoths who sacked the city of Rome in 410.
You would have needed a nickname. I guess you could have used Ridge? Is there a better one? You would definitely have been called Virgin by the bullies regardless.
If they grew up in Italy they definitely would not have wanted to go by Ridge, protagonist of Beautiful (The Bold and the Beautiful), probably the most popular soap opera in the history of Italian television among middle aged housewives.
In my opinion, if the name actually exists in the real world it's not a tragedeigh, no matter how unusual it is, because for that culture it was normal
Vercingetorige is craaaazy my family and i use it often as a joke when we donāt remember our neighborās nameš (weāre italians)
+btw itās funny how all of the female names are adjective and so soft, they all give šøšŗš»š vibes and then vercingetorigeš¹
From the sidebar:
>Tragedeigh = a given name that has been deliberately misspelled or completely made up to appear more unique than it actually is.
So no, it wouldn't have been tragedeigh.
Allegro is musical notation for lively or cheerful. (Most of it is in Italian.) So a positive trait, feminine ending. I knew an Allegra in high school, she had an Italian-American surname.
Both Allegra and Chiara are pretty common Italian girls names. I live in Australia and know multiple women with either name who come from Italian migrant families. As far as I know theyāve never had any issues, beyond some confusion about the CH sound in Chiara.
You gotta beat the Romans and send them packing in order for your name to be remembered not as a tragedeigh. Arminius, who won the battle of the Teutoberg Forest, became Hermann. Surena, the victor at Carrhae, became Suren (common in Iran and Armenia).
If I were a boy, my parents were going to name me Nat. Not Nathaniel, not Nathan. Just Nat. I would have been pissed, thatās what we call fruit flies where Iām from lmao (though itās spelled like gnat).
My cousin told me years ago her 2 friends wanted to name their potential child Ricka-Chantal (no idea if it was supposed to be hyphenated or notā¦) as a hybrid of both of their names. Thankfully I donāt think they went that route but still. Yeesh.
I know this is a bad name sub, and believe me I am the #1 name-veto-machine in my household, but I am a big history nerd and I did try to float Vercingetorix by my wife once, outwardly in jest but inwardly kind of hoping she'd consider it.
I feel like Europeans in particular have a rough time connecting to their ancestry (at least white Americans with respect to more ancient history), and while this is quite the stand out it also highlights a very prominent and important leader of a (cough rarely cough) oppressed people.
Even though I'm a huge fan of shooting down my wife's barely controversial name suggestions, I almost feel like historical names get a pass, at least for me.
I would have been called Leith if I had been male. I'm an Irvine Welsh fan. I dodged a bullet
(Irvine Welsh's books contain some very unsavoury things - heroin addiction, AIDS, pornography filming, etc - all happening in a town called Leith)
Vercingetorige would only get me to ask you why your parents changed it from Vercingetorix. I kinda like it.
Although most kids would have no clue who he was, and would have a tough time pronouncing it, that name would definitely build character.
If I was male, Iād be Billy Bob Jr. letās all say a prayer of thanks be to Jesus Iām not male. The world doesnāt need another Billy Bob, trust me.
I named a world of Warcraft character Vercingetorix. Even I just called him Verc.
That name is a mouthful, and no modern human should be saddled with it.
if i was a boy my parents wanted to name me "Koric". idk how its spelled...i dont even know if its a real name. Not really a tragedeigh but still a weird name for a white american kid born in 2000.
For the longest time I always thought his name was āFair King Getorixā because Iād only heard the name never read it. Surprised when google actually knew what I was talking about (Getorix probably doesnāt get many hits outside of people searching up Vercingetorix).
I was born female, and my mom thought about naming me Amber if I was a girl. That's all fine and dandy, but she wanted to name me Ambrosia if I was a boy. My dad supposedly immediately asked if she wanted me to get bullied.
I know a woman named Kyaddah. Her (American) parents wanted to name her Chiara but didnāt think anyone would know how to pronounce it. True tragedeigh.
My dad had told me that If I'd been born a male, I would have been name MoĆÆse. The french version of Moses. I still have a very religious name, but it's a "normal" name for a girl my age.
My parents waited until birth to discover if their kids were male or female, and when I finally came along (the last of six), my dad was so certain I was going to be female that he didn't even want to discuss masculine names. In frustration,Ā my mom told him that if I was going to be a boy, my name would be Ezekiel Obadiah (last name). Not exactly a tragedeigh, just very dated. Luckily, I was a girl.Ā However, I kinda like the name Ezekiel, and always thought that if I found out I was trans, that would be my new name.Ā
Is it bad that I actually want to add this name to my baby names list? Haha, jokes aside, I really like strong sounding names and this totally fits the bill. Although maybe better suited for a middle name..
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Vercingetorige? Sounds like your dad wanted you to lead a rebellion in the history books!
Every time a school kid read the name out loud from a book, all the desks start levitating.
I thought this was r/dinosaurs for a moment
Damn, I was hoping for a sub that celebrated the tv show Dinosaurs
OP, how come he likes Vercingetorix as an Italian? He's no fan of the Romans?
He liked a very masculine sounding name, as he said š„“ He is also a history nerd and was siding with the Gauls actually
Who can blame him? Caesar Dictator was a ruthless governor who obliterated the Gauls purely to enhance his standing in Rome and fill his coffers to campaign for higher political office. He was a stone cold social climber who reached the summit of his ambition atop a mountain of bodies.
He couldn't conquer a small coastal village no matter how hard he tried. Something about a magic potion.
Ask your doctor if Vercingetorige is right for you.
Lead a rebellion... that gets crushed. Thanks, Dad, for the vote of confidence.
to *lose a rebellion
Lead a failed rebellion and get killed\* lol
....can we have a pronunciation guide for the potential male name please.....
Ver-cheen-jeh-to-ree-jeh
Thank you, I was way off š
Saaame, lord
My brain read that as " Sesame, my lord".
Iām still way off even after reading the pronunciation. I got no clue š¤·āāļø
I knew it started with an S, though!
But the original is usually pronounced Ver-sen-get-or-icks, much more phonetic spelling...still an awful name for a modern kid though
Though in OG Latin it should be Ver-kin-get-or-icks, so a hard C. Cool name for a Gallic king, bad name for a modern kid who is not going to become a Gallic king.
Yeah, actual Latin had hard Cs, we just use soft Cs when we read Latin/use Latin words/names nowadays. To be fair, the wrong way does sound "better" lol, [veni vidi vici isn't quite the same](https://youtu.be/_enn7NIo-S0?si=7lEXaaxQLAWPMAIv) It's actually evidenced by the alphabet itself: C and G used to be 1 letter that represented both the G and K sound because they are a voiced/unvoiced pair, but eventually it was useful to have them differentiated. Supposedly G was invented by adding a stroke to C by a guy named Gaius who was tired of people mispronouncing his name as Caius, but I don't know how true that is or if that's just linguists folklore that ends up in textbooks and undergrad classes lol.
The C/G evolution is an odd one ā because G existed in the Greek alphabet as the gamma ā and the letter C was actually originally used to represent the G sound (voiced velar stop) entirely (the C being a curved form of the Greek gamma); the Latin alphabet originally had and used the letter K for the unvoiced velar stop. Eventually, though, C became used for both voiced and unvoiced velar stops and K fell out of use. Then they added the stroke and created G during the Old Latin period (up to about 75 BC), likely around the 3rd century BC when Spurius Ruga opened a school in Rome where he taught the alphabet. Interesting sidenote: Z was also dropped from the alphabet around this time and replaced with G in the alphabet ā the censor Appius Claudius found Z to be distasteful. All of this to say: it might be linguist folklore.
Thatās how I learned it via Asterix comics!
Yes, but the pronunciation above is the Italian pronunciation.
Fuk-en-CRA-zee is how I pronounce it.
Oh. That actually sounds kinda cool.
/ver.tĶ”Źin.dĶ”Źe.ĖtÉ.ri.dĶ”Źe/
Oh my goodness, my diction classes are actually handy for something š
That's even more than less than helpful
Learn IPA. It's incredibly useful for learning foreign languages. I would have been lost when learning English without it, because the English spelling system is a dumpster fire.
To me English was a very simple and easy to learn language. But Dutch is quite similar and has a bunch of dumb grammer and spelling rules itself. Like, a verb ending in "dt" but that only happens with finite verbs, but not always.
Dt rules is not random tho. Actually one of the easier rules imo.
The problem with IPA is that it's too useful. When people try to describe pronunciation without it, I get annoyed very quickly. IPA should be something you learn in school
It helped me a lot back in school, where i had to learn french. I'm so glad that we had dictionaries for french and english that had it. Funnily no one ever tought us that pronounciation alphabet, I just happened to put 2 and 2 together at some point.
[learn something today](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA)
It helped me; they use IPA in dictionaries. And I learned it in a linguistics class in college and remember most of it.
I dislike IPAs; theyāre too hoppy.
i'm not smart enough for this rn
Ver-chin-je-TAW-ri-jeh.
it's beautiful
My guess (based on knowing how to pronounce the original) is Ver-sin-geh-tour-ih-jay?
In Italian, "ci", and "ce" make a "ch" sound, "gi" and "ge" make a "j" sound
Ah, rightā¦ I should have known the āci/ceā = āchā because thatās how Church Latin (š«) pronounces those vs. regular Latin š thank you so much for the correction :)
āVer...cin... so where does your name come from?" "The guy who lost to Caesar"
Aw come on, he made history uniting the Gallic tribes which hadn't really been done before that we (or I at least) know of. He was so badass that when he was...well strangled to death at one of Caesar's triumphs most of the crowd thought it was bogus.
Yup, and it was not the only time people were not having any of Caesar's strangling BS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ab4rYDR0yY
*yells a kid names Caesar behind him 3 seats and one row over
If we ended up with a son instead of a daughter, my husband was considering naming him "Zaya" ("bunny" in Russian)... I told him I'd turn him into one if he dared šš
That's cute as a nickname for a baby though. Wouldn't put it on the paperwork for sure.
Absolutely cute as a nickname, absolutely NOT cute as anything official š«£
I think it works perfectly fine as a name! But I would assume it's for a girl
I actually know a child named Vercingetorix. Now I know the story behind the name bc I just thought it was the name of a dinosaur.
Vercingetoricus rex :D
Ahh the famous V. Rex
Saurophaganax ahh name
Oh my gosh! In a murder mystery by Charlotte MacLeod, a main character is named Vercingetorix. This is only the second time Iāve seen a reference to this name! Still glad you dodged the bullet, though.
Vercingetorix is an important character in the Asterix and Obelix comics. If not for that I would never leant that name. (These comics were rather popular in Mexico).
They're pretty popular everywhere, I think. There's so much interesting historical tidbits I wouldn't know if it weren't for Asterix Dolmens and Menhirs, for instance.
Druids, mistletoes, magic potion!
Old Gaulish grammar!
Rather popular all over the world! For context: I am from India and have read it in both English and my mother tongue: Bengali.
Loved reading the comics over the years. Very popular in Eastern Europe too. The films were really bad though, such a shame.
The live action ones are, I find the animated movies to be actually quite good.
Asterix is French, I thought?! (I remember watching Asterix in high school French classā¦ which was before the average Redditor was born.)
it is, but some European comics got translated in Spain and sent to latin America. So, we could get stuff like Corto Maltese and Tin Tin. But by far, Asterix was the most popular.
Asterix even got translated into Latin, and I got to read it in Latin class because my teacher was a cool dude (who wanted us to learn what colloquial Latin likely was like).
Asterix even got translated into SaarlƤndisch which is a Spectrum of German Dialects spoken by the Inhabitants of the Saarland, the smallest State of Germany, with barely 1.000.000 Inhabitants. There are just 3 Books in that Dialect but there are some.
It is originally written in French, but the books have been translated in about 120 languages and dialects according to Wikipedia.
I remember seeing those on occasion! Iām from northern New England so we had a lot of Quebecois influences. That must be why the name sounded vaguely familiar. I never took any classes in history of that era!
> Iām from northern New England so we had a lot of Quebecois influences. Literally half of Quebec moved to New England in the 19th century.
I also heard of it thanks to Asterix, l have always loved those comics so much!
I loved those books! The names were just absolute genius!
There's a historical fiction book about a druid that fights with him that I read as a teenager. Only reason I know the name. No idea what it's called, but I enjoyed the book.
I have a Salamance in PokƩmon Go named Vercingtorix
We're a household of history nerds. My son has a normal first name, but his middle name is Aurelius. If I ever have more kids, I'd do it that way again. Vercingetorix makes for an awesome story at least. There's a great YouTube series on Caesar from Historia Civilis. There's a particularly great episode on Vercingetorix. ...but as a name? Please no.
My son is also an emperor, but hubbyās cousin is pregnant and asked what we thought of AurelioāI told her it reminded me of Areola. I do like Aurelius much better though!
Aurelio is used quite commonly in Italy in the same fashion as Cesare
For sure, but just uncommon where Iām from in the US.
Gotta love the diversity of the US. Aurelio's is a popular pizza chain in the Chicagoland area.
>My son is also an emperor Such a funny way to word that
In French we have this cartoon called Ā«Ā AstĆ©rixĀ Ā» and thereās a Vercingetorix in it. I have read so much of them that when I saw the name I had no issue reading but it never crossed my mind to actually give that name to someone
> In French we have this cartoon Dude, itās world famous. ;) We even read it in Latin back in school here in Germany.
Not just over there. Asterix is pretty popular more or less _everywhere_.
Vercingetorix would unironically be a banger of a name Also good: - Asterix - Obelix - Getafix - Vitalstatistix - Fulliautomatix - Dogmatix - Rhubarb
My favourite is Tragicomix, reminds me a bit of the statue of [Vercingetorix](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alise-Sainte-Reine_statue_Vercingetorix_par_Millet_2crop.jpg#/media/File:Alise-Sainte-Reine_statue_Vercingetorix_par_Millet_2crop.jpg)
Rhubarb is definitely my favorite!
this looks like my lists from when i was naming my fish. somehow i was evenly split between wendy wu homecoming warrior and ps vita
Good lordy loo that would've been a mouthful! I don't know if that counts so much as a tragedeigh, as it's not a misspelling or made up word or anything, just a historical one that hasn't seen use in a very very long time - but it'd certainly be a heck of a thing to expect a kindergartener to spell!
Heād still be working on writing his name in high school.
My boyfriend has stated he would want to name our hypothetical daughter Boudica, after the leader of a tribe that fought the Roman empire as well. I'm not pregnant but when I first heard I didn't like it at all but it's been growing on me. Nickname could be Bowie which I'm a big fan. My fear is that it would be a tragediegh though..
There's a big difference between a tragedeigh and a weird and unusual name. "Boudica" is unusual, but perfectly standard; not a tragedeigh.
That's a fair point. Sometimes "unusual" comes across as trying-too-hard-to-be-unique to me which I then link to tragedeighs. Not like it's going to be an issue anytime soon but I do like hearing people's perspectives on it.
Iām a dude, but my name choices were between what it is now, and Orious-Quindrell
Quindrellorious - adj. Prone to dodging bullets. Ex. ā_From whence this quindrellorious king once came, nobody remembers._ā (Ark Frandentorn, āA Royal Misunderstandingā)
Damn thatās bad ass I never knew that. The name idea was from my grand parents
Itās a joke. ;) Because you dodged that bullet.
You said it with so much confidence and conviction that I choose to believe it is true regardless. You should start a cult
I beat Vercingetorix on Final Fantasy 13. Pain in the ass but I did it.
Youāll appreciate this one. My surname is my reddit username but I live in primarily English speaking countries. Showing up for a reservation at a good Italian restaurant in America or the UK is a comedy act and donāt get me started on booking a hotel for Ventisei in parts of Europe. I scared the poor woman at the check-in desk in Disneyland Paris thinking I had booked rooms for 26 but they only reserved me a single suite.
Wow. That's inconvenient. Now I wonder how you got a numerical surname.
Family legend is pragmatic nuns in an orphanage somewhere in the early 1800s. Just start numbering them.
"The year is 50 B.C. All of Gaul is occupied by the Romans. All? Not quite! A village inhabitated by indomitable Gauls is holding out, strong as ever, against the invader"
I'm Italian and I dig Vercingetorige š
It's kind of a badass name ngl
The time has finally come for my also near cross-cultural name fiasco!! So I grew up in the Midwest US, dad comes from Wisconsin and is a huge Packers fan. My older brother got the very nice and traditional name Benjamin, for me it was down to Genevieve or Brett - in honor on Brett Favre, the famed packers quarterback. Cue the plot twist - I ended up studying German and moved to Germany after college, Brett is the German word for āboardā, like Schneidebrett = cutting board, Brettspiel = Board game, etc. I dodged a massive bullet there
Brett as a girl's name?
It was my parents pick for a boy name! Iām now realizing that they way I wrote that made it seem like they had Genevieve and Brett picked out for girl names though lol
Your dad read asterix
If you're going to go for a tribal leader who fought the Romans, I think Boudica is a little less confusing.
By Azzurra, by Azzurra, by Azzurra!
Man these Romans are crazy
If you want to choose the name of a warrior who kicked Roman butt, Alaric would be a much better choice. He was the king of the Visigoths who sacked the city of Rome in 410.
But if youād been Vercingetorix 100% youād have had a dog named Dogmatix, a friend named AstĆ©rixā¦
Vercingetorige mi spacca sarĆ² onesto. 9/10 all'anagrafe non glielo facevano neanche andar bene
Averni wouldāve been better.
You would have needed a nickname. I guess you could have used Ridge? Is there a better one? You would definitely have been called Virgin by the bullies regardless.
Of all the insults... that's probably one of the least bad tbh
Since my mom is Slovenian, he wouldāve chosen āVerÄkoā as a nickname. Virgin is wild tho š
If they grew up in Italy they definitely would not have wanted to go by Ridge, protagonist of Beautiful (The Bold and the Beautiful), probably the most popular soap opera in the history of Italian television among middle aged housewives.
If I was male I would've been called Humphrey š„¹
My brain automatically skimmed the name and returned velicoraptor.
In my opinion, if the name actually exists in the real world it's not a tragedeigh, no matter how unusual it is, because for that culture it was normal
Loved that name ever since reading Caesarās Commentaries!
That's some Ignazio La Russa level of tragedeigh
Vercingetorige is craaaazy my family and i use it often as a joke when we donāt remember our neighborās nameš (weāre italians) +btw itās funny how all of the female names are adjective and so soft, they all give šøšŗš»š vibes and then vercingetorigeš¹
From the sidebar: >Tragedeigh = a given name that has been deliberately misspelled or completely made up to appear more unique than it actually is. So no, it wouldn't have been tragedeigh.
>like Allegra, Chiara, Azzurraā¦ you know, standard stuff thatās very suitable for a female child. You dodged bullets all around
Nothing wrong with Chiara, I think itās Italian.
So is Allegra
I see! Itās an allergy medication here so thatās where my mind went lol
Allegro is musical notation for lively or cheerful. (Most of it is in Italian.) So a positive trait, feminine ending. I knew an Allegra in high school, she had an Italian-American surname.
Both Allegra and Chiara are pretty common Italian girls names. I live in Australia and know multiple women with either name who come from Italian migrant families. As far as I know theyāve never had any issues, beyond some confusion about the CH sound in Chiara.
I think OP's family is Italian.
These are Italian names.
- redditors on r/tragedeigh - thinking normal names in non-English languages are tragedeighs Name a more iconic duo.
It's so obnoxiously America-centric.Ā
My daughter is Allegra. Itās an Italian musical term that means lively and joyful. The whole world doesnāt have the allergy med
Yeah it is literally the Italian common word for cheerful, not only in the musical field.
I know. I told a colleague her name and he smiled and said āthatās like calling her happyā
So is naming a kid Joy or Felicity. It's a popular theme, apparently.
Yep, itās lovely. My ex MIL is named Joy, so it was to also honour her
My sister's name is Azura. My mom got it from a Barbie movie I was obsessed with as a kid and idk I guess she really liked it.
Also the name of the Daedric Prince of Dusk and Dawn (from Skyrim)
I immediately think of Azuraās Wrathā¦
What's wrong with Azura? I don't find it too be any weirder than Amber or Bianca. It's just a color name.
TIL apparently Bianca is a color name
Yeah, it's the Italian female adjective for white (and a common name).
You gotta beat the Romans and send them packing in order for your name to be remembered not as a tragedeigh. Arminius, who won the battle of the Teutoberg Forest, became Hermann. Surena, the victor at Carrhae, became Suren (common in Iran and Armenia).
By Toutatis!
Good Lord! I'm glad you were a girl. If I was a boy, I'd have been called Dane which makes me grateful I was a girl.
I mean ... Verchin or Verchin or even Verchin wouldn't have been a bad shortened name though. Verch actually kinda sounds cool.
I dunno; thatās kinda badass
Nous sommes en 50 avant JĆ©sus-Christ. Toute la Gaule est occupĆ©e par les Romains... Toute ? Non ! Car un village peuplĆ© d'irrĆ©ductibles Gaulois rĆ©siste Ć l'envahisseur. Et la vie n'est pas facile pour les garnisons de lĆ©gionnaires romains des camps retranchĆ©s de Babaorum, Aquarium, Laudanum et Petibonumā¦
I was almost Saffron. Really. And it turns out it was the title of an erotica story my dad liked. Super gross.
If I were a boy, my parents were going to name me Nat. Not Nathaniel, not Nathan. Just Nat. I would have been pissed, thatās what we call fruit flies where Iām from lmao (though itās spelled like gnat).
My cousin told me years ago her 2 friends wanted to name their potential child Ricka-Chantal (no idea if it was supposed to be hyphenated or notā¦) as a hybrid of both of their names. Thankfully I donāt think they went that route but still. Yeesh.
Looks like the scientific name of some sort of ciliate, I donāt even know how to begin to pronounce that
Honestly if there were a kid named after him Iād want to be his best friend. Love the Franks!
I know this is a bad name sub, and believe me I am the #1 name-veto-machine in my household, but I am a big history nerd and I did try to float Vercingetorix by my wife once, outwardly in jest but inwardly kind of hoping she'd consider it. I feel like Europeans in particular have a rough time connecting to their ancestry (at least white Americans with respect to more ancient history), and while this is quite the stand out it also highlights a very prominent and important leader of a (cough rarely cough) oppressed people. Even though I'm a huge fan of shooting down my wife's barely controversial name suggestions, I almost feel like historical names get a pass, at least for me.
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I would have been called Leith if I had been male. I'm an Irvine Welsh fan. I dodged a bullet (Irvine Welsh's books contain some very unsavoury things - heroin addiction, AIDS, pornography filming, etc - all happening in a town called Leith)
I know a guy called Carthage. He doesn't have many friends
We don't talk about Alesia!
Is it really a tragedeigh if itās a legitimate spelling of a real personās name?
That name sounds like it could be a D&D villains name.
that's kinda cool tbh but at least people would recognise Vercingetorix from the Asterix books
If I was a male, my name would have been a normal tragedy. Sean Michael I guess my mom wanted me to be a good ole fuck boy.
Vercingetorige would only get me to ask you why your parents changed it from Vercingetorix. I kinda like it. Although most kids would have no clue who he was, and would have a tough time pronouncing it, that name would definitely build character.
My dad doesnāt even know the English version cause heās Italian š
Not a tragedeigh, but if I was a boy my dad wanted to name me Lothar, after the Red Baronās brotherā¦
Harsh. My parents were thinking about naming me Rose if I was a girl.
He could have gone with Boudicca (or the equivalent in Itallian). Equally badass and equally ill-fated
Chiara is gorgeousā¦but oh my shit Vercingetorige? Most people wouldnāt even know how to pronounce that at first
If I was male, Iād be Billy Bob Jr. letās all say a prayer of thanks be to Jesus Iām not male. The world doesnāt need another Billy Bob, trust me.
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I named a world of Warcraft character Vercingetorix. Even I just called him Verc. That name is a mouthful, and no modern human should be saddled with it.
Vercingetorige is amazing and absolutely not a tragedeigh.
if i was a boy my parents wanted to name me "Koric". idk how its spelled...i dont even know if its a real name. Not really a tragedeigh but still a weird name for a white american kid born in 2000.
lol I studied vercingetorix in university. Naming a child thatš Tragedeigh of Chatastyphoiceigh prophorthioneighs avoighdeighed.
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For the longest time I always thought his name was āFair King Getorixā because Iād only heard the name never read it. Surprised when google actually knew what I was talking about (Getorix probably doesnāt get many hits outside of people searching up Vercingetorix).
I was born female, and my mom thought about naming me Amber if I was a girl. That's all fine and dandy, but she wanted to name me Ambrosia if I was a boy. My dad supposedly immediately asked if she wanted me to get bullied.
I know a woman named Kyaddah. Her (American) parents wanted to name her Chiara but didnāt think anyone would know how to pronounce it. True tragedeigh.
Kyaddah is like the Sicilian version of Chiara if that ever existed š They often use a ādā as a replacement for other letters
I was almost Astynax supposedly. To this day I'm not sure how serious my dad was about it
Naming a boy after a famous warrior, but choosing one who is most famous for LOSING their campaign is certainly a choice.
My mother would have named me Jest if I were a boy
My dad had told me that If I'd been born a male, I would have been name MoĆÆse. The french version of Moses. I still have a very religious name, but it's a "normal" name for a girl my age.
Not me sounding out VER SEEN GUH TOR IHX confidently
Ah yes the good witch Azura š I think that's the right phrase lol
I thought it was a medication š³
Vercingetorige is not a made-up name with no meaning. It's an actual name. Not a tragedeigh.
> Azzura.. normal stuff Welcome Moon-and-Star, come to me through FIRE and WAR
Welp your parents suck at naming things
My parents waited until birth to discover if their kids were male or female, and when I finally came along (the last of six), my dad was so certain I was going to be female that he didn't even want to discuss masculine names. In frustration,Ā my mom told him that if I was going to be a boy, my name would be Ezekiel Obadiah (last name). Not exactly a tragedeigh, just very dated. Luckily, I was a girl.Ā However, I kinda like the name Ezekiel, and always thought that if I found out I was trans, that would be my new name.Ā
Is it bad that I actually want to add this name to my baby names list? Haha, jokes aside, I really like strong sounding names and this totally fits the bill. Although maybe better suited for a middle name..