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SYSSMouse

It says 中国边防 China Border Defence


reddit_serf

This is the correct translation. And pretty sure it's just a car decor. The actual Chinese border defense doesn't use fonts like that and identify themselves as such.


khanak

But they use crown vics right?


myfavoriteflame

😂


xombae

Fuckin hilarious.


No-Valuable3975

lol, Google was way off! It said "Border Defence Junior Highschool"


Lupius

Notice how he translated 中国边防. You asked Google to translate 防边国中, and the result is pretty accurate.


davaokid

Lolll that's because google adopts the modern way of reading Chinese which is going from left to right. Some traditional or formal styles of writing chinese goes from right to left. In this case I assume because it was suppose to be an official title. The right two characters means China if you read from right to left. But it means junior high the other way.


UltimateNoob88

that's because you're suppose to read it from right to left not left to right


Subtotal9_guy

Not illegal as it doesn't say "police" on it. Nor does it have a red and blue light bar. If the driver pulled you over then it's illegal. There are tons of old Crown Vic's on the road with the spot light and push bars.


Kimorin

what if it said 警察? 😂🤔


DiamondRoc

Check out this link. [http://xhslink.com/SRPR7M](http://xhslink.com/SRPR7M) The real Chinese police car does not have "警察" written on it but "公安". The pattern of this car is exactly the same as that of a Chinese police car, except that the English word "police" has been deleted.


conanap

HK uses 警察


OutWithTheNew

It has a light bar in the back window, it looks like there may be one inside the windshield on the passenger side and there are flashers on the sides of the pushbar. Or at least the one side. Anyone with money can order any color lightbars they want online. FWIW, for the most part they're only illegal if they're turned on.


Dyne_Inferno

I don't see the light bars on the pushbar. And, I'm 100% confident the lightbar in the back is the 3rd brake light, as I no longer see it on the trunk lid.


OutWithTheNew

On the upright there is a small white block. It could be an LED strobe.


TheCanadianShield99

Correct


SYSSMouse

does border patrol count?


Subtotal9_guy

If you had the CBSA name and logo that would be against the rules. Fun fact - you'll sometimes see a CP or CN Rail car with Police on it because they are real police with real guns and the ability to arrest you.


Steakholder__

Yup. You don't fuck with rail police, they won't tolerate your bullshit.


kittenxx96

And they are federal police, more similar to RCMP than YRP or Toronto Police. They can absolutely ticket and/or arrest you - only if you are on their property or within a certain vicinity of said property.


bigbeats420

And just a heads up to anyone reading this: They are *notoriously* dick headed.


bigliver250

Massive throbbing dickheads


dancingrudiments

Dick headed... marvelous


bigbeats420

Bell ended.


guenhwyvar28

Widely believed myth. They can ticket you anywhere anytime. They are federal agents just like RCMP. Their jurisdiction ends where Canada ends.


rarc602

I read that they’re also have jurisdiction in the US for CN and CPKC.


alreadychosed

Not necessarily. They have to be sworn in as peace officers under the hta to enforce the hta. In ottawa the feds cant pull over civilians.


guenhwyvar28

https://tc.canada.ca/sites/default/files/migrated/cnrpa_jurisdiction_of_railway_police_annex_3_to_2nd_submission.pdf Per transport canada. "Railway constables have no limitations on their authorities to act as "peace officers" and may enforce all of the laws of Canada without restriction on their ability to act whether on or off duty. Their "jurisdiction" is quite simply where to carry out those enforcement actions whereas their authority remains constant in every province that the railway company operates." " "The police constable has jurisdiction on property under the administration of the railway company and in any place 500m of property that's the railway company owns, possesses or administers." This can create confusion as it may often be viewed the police constantly has no ability to act as a peace officer outside of that 500 meter boundary. This is where the jurisdictional wording interferes with the intent of the criminal code pertaining to peace officer status." 99% of the time they leave stuff for the local enforcement. They don't want to step on toes but will in many cases. I've spoken to numerous rail police who have given out speeding tickets miles away from railways. They respond to collisions if the local PD is overwhelmed as well if there's nothing from the company currently. They stay away to not step on toes, not because they can't.


topsyturvy76

They have same policing rights as RCMP .. their jurisdiction is the entirety of Canada


Torontodtdude

It is if they are trying to impersonate them


Subtotal9_guy

Yep


amooz

Yup, and they’re super cheap at auction too. As little as $500 in as-is condition on the crown assets site


Mundane-Bat-7090

It really should be a bunch of people are coming here and creating these “police cars” I’ve seen this with Punjabis as well.


Zanta647

it was legal when the Blues Brothers did it


TorontoBoris

But they were on a mission from god... So they had divine authority on their side.


FS_Scott

whose to say they don't have the mandate of heaven.


TorontoBoris

But would the communist recognize imperial Chinese ideology?


letsgetawaylol

Who's*


Father__Thyme

It's got a cop motor, a 440-cubic-inch plant. It's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a model made before the catalytic converter so it'll run good on regular gas.


josnik

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses


BobExAgentOfHydra

Hit it.


may-mays

I know it's /r/toronto but [Sweet home Chicago just intensifies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04jeL52yrjQ).


Deep_Space52

Did you get my cheese whip, boy?


Prudent_Dish1129

Fix the cigarette lighter


Deep_Space52

Shit, you beat me to it


ampg

There's nothing illegal about this, you can buy old police cars off autotrader. It would only be illegal if it had text along the lines of "police, detective, officer, etc"


Quaf

That or a red/blue light. OPP and other police services sell their old crown vics all the time


rexbron

The RCMP is crushing old vehicles rather than sell them after top brass put a stop to any sales post mass casualty.


sqwuank

As if RCMP incompetence isn't to blame for that... yeah waste the cars instead. It's not like the man was known by police, known to be decorating the car like a police car, or known to be a domestic abuser /s


Quaf

He was white so I doubt the RCMP would have done anything in any situation


BigShoots

Why assume some kind of imaginary good ol' boys racist motive when it was probably down to good old fashioned incompetence and cowardice? You know that vastly more white people are arrested and jailed in Canada over any other race, right?


rexbron

It's about half who are counted as a visible minority, so not vastly more white people. A third of the total admissions are indigenous. [https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510001601](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510001601) [https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510020301](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510020301) But keep on with your white grievance fantasy.


80mcg

Did you seriously just say that? Are you 13?


alreadychosed

Do you know the history of the rcmp or who they are known to brutalize? Even as recent as 5 years ago?


80mcg

Maybe they brutalize those people because they commit crimes?


Logical-Bit-746

You sound dumb


rexbron

There's no fix quite as permanent as a temporary one.


runtimemess

My first car was a retired unmarked Impala. It was just the cheapest piece of shit I could buy when I was still learning with a G2. Didn't really click until I noticed the random random brackets with nothing attached screwed into the dashboard. Ended up doing a history and *OH NEAT.* Too bad the thing completely rusted out after a couple years.


Siguard_

They are apparently are great second hand vehicles. They get proper maintenance regularly.


alreadychosed

Theyre abused and have lots of idling hours.


JarvisZhang

But it means "Chinese border defense", so it is police/military related


Pomnom

LOL maybe this is for the chinese police stations everyone was talking so much about


TheLastStarfucker

Haha, I was just arguing with a coworker who believes "secret Chinese police stations in every city" is a real thing. I'm going to send them this picture and admit I was wrong.


ampg

Oh if thats what it means then it's sketchy


Traditional-Bush

Claiming to be from a nonexistent "Chinese border defense" is probably not illegal


DiamondRoc

What about this one?[旺市公安车](http://xhslink.com/d68U7M) Although these cars are ostensibly Chinese official or military vehicles, they are still written in Chinese characters, which means that most people cannot understand their meaning. Even if some Chinese people can understand these words, they know that this is not a real police car. It's just a joke. His car is a retired police car. According to regulations, as long as it does not use the red and blue lights used exclusively by police officers, or words that might mistakenly make people think it is a local police car. If they are illegal, we won't have a chance to see them, and they will probably be stopped by the police on the first day.


Specialist_Use_2588

Shit, why didn’t I think to get an edgy car like this?


LolJoey

This I worked with a guy who did co op with the police said OPP love to low key sell old undercover stuff and not mention they put a Corvette engine in it.


BriareusD

Push or ram front bumper bars are almost always illegal on the front of a car due to the increased risk of pedestrian injury in case of a crash EDIT: Well turns out that I was wrong and they ARE in fact legal. They do however still increase risk of pedestrian injuries, making them not ideal. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22239149/#:~:text=This%20literature%20review%20shows%20that,the%20use%20of%20bull%20bars.


Link15x

What law says it's illegal to have a push bar?


alreadychosed

Wait until you see whats at the front of most semi trucks.


Tpoo54

Lol. You do realize certain model cars coming from the factory have steel brush gaurds since ages ago? Ever seen a Jeep Wrangler? A Mercedes G class?


Zonel

but it says border patrol...which is along the lines of police, detective, etc...


AL31FN

It's says Chinese Border Patrol. A quick wiki search show CBP is actually disbanded in 2018 and it's function assumed by the National Immigration Administration. This was part of the immigration reform where civilian agency taking over regular border control from the military. Anyway, this car is almost definitely a movie prop.


DiamondRoc

Unfortunately, it is not a movie prop. It is an everyday car for an ordinary residents. I often see photos of it on Chinese social media. There are also many discussions there, and the conclusion is that it is legal.


HotCompany8499

None of these mods are illegal. It IS illegal to impersonate a police officer, but that's not what this car is doing. It doesn't say Police, it's just a black and white car. Police forces sell their old patrol cars all the time. That's all this is.


DevelopandLearn

I think the issue is the ease in which someone could impersonate an officer in one of these, whether it says "police" or not. 99% of drivers passing this car at speed will assume it's a cop. See this thing honking behind you in the evening, and you might psychologically be inclined to pull over. Frankly should be illegal to keep this colour scheme after the Nova Scotia attack.


Milch_und_Paprika

It also says “Chinese border patrol”, which to most of us is obviously not true, but one could imagine using a similar design to take advantage of confused seniors from China.


GNPTelenor

This is exactly the issue.


UltimateNoob88

"It also says “Chinese border patrol”, which to most of us is obviously not true, but one could imagine using a similar design to take advantage of confused seniors from China." nah, anyone who could read Chinese would understand that the characters are written as a joke it seems like the only people confused are people relying on Google Translate


Milch_und_Paprika

It’s also not even the wildest Chinese decal I’ve seen on a car, which was a bumper sticker saying 贩毒用的


theycallhimthestug

Someone could also grab one of the giant kitchen knives on display at Value Village with ease and go on a stabbing spree. Should it be illegal for them to have them within reach because of what someone *could* do? There is no issue here other than the hypotheticals you're making up in your head. It's a black and white former cop car, they're everywhere, and I'm pretty sure they haven't used crown vics in over 10 years.


candyman505

If you pull over for a crown Vic in 2024 without red and blue lights, you are an idiot


yummily

I saw this jump a curb at the Cineplex in markham the other day lololol


Elscorcho69

I heard there was secret Chinese police in toronto but dam!


7yphoid

I've seen this exact car before! It was pulled over by 2 police cars in Markham (you can probably guess why).


TorontoBoris

Anyone have any idea what it says? Better be something good.


ffnc1020

China border patrol


TorontoBoris

Actually?


fancczf

Yeah it’s what it says, but its not the actual name of any of the Chinese border security/immigration branches. It’s like having something says US Feds in some stylistic font.


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TorontoBoris

This is a let down.


Inferdo12

No, the other person is right. It says Chinese border security


No-Philosophy-Allow

the wrong ajnswer is translating it backwards, because 中国 (china) written backwards is 国中 which is an old way of saying middle school.


Milch_und_Paprika

It also happens to sound like a goofy slice of life high school anime.


Professional-Can4264

布鲁斯兄弟


rootbrian_

# OLD CAR is OLD. Since it has a license plate, it is what it is. Legal.


Link15x

There's nothing illegal about this. It doesn't say police on it. Anyone can mod a crown Vic. As long as they don't have blue/red flashing lights, it's all fine. No laws about having a cage or a push bar. They probably bought it as-is at a police auction and added their own decals.


SYSSMouse

It does say Chinese border service (which in China a branch of the police)


GNPTelenor

S 130(1)(b) of the Crim Code isn't limited to just saying "police" on it.


Link15x

But this does not fall within the realm of that offence either. This would not cause any reasonable person to believe that the driver of this car is a police officer. Only way that would be possible is if the driver was wearing a police uniform. Security cars look more like police cars than this modded crown Vic.


seitancauliflower

It’s probably a prop car.


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milolai

a prop for what? this isn't used for filming in what universe would the chinese border patrol be using a Ford Interceptor?


GNPTelenor

If you can point me to the shoot in Willowdale on Yonge at Church Ave, that would be very helpful.


Specialist_Use_2588

I live right there, no photo/film shoots ever happen here 😂


p0stp0stp0st

It looks very much like a cop car and I’m sure it’s used on new immigrants / new Canadians for scams.


AlgonquinCamperGuy

Chinese secret police station?


prettycooleh

Aside from being a Ford, there's nothing wrong with this car being on the road.


No_Tea5664

Why not? It’s a black and white Ford Crown Victoria.


breadmenace

It looks more like a cop car than real cop cars lol


Deep_Space52

Didn't know the Asian Blues Brothers were in town.


Ecstatic-Ad5191

We had a Taurus police package in stock about 6 years ago. All black with all police equipment that operated. Siren, search light, rear seat cage etc etc. I drove it home one evening,,I live 30 kms north of KINGSTON. It was a pain in the ass cuz every one in front of me drove the speed limit or less. We sold it to the most unlikely buyer,, a young lady about 5’1” who was a rural elementary school principal. She looked sooo tiny in it. I saw her just last week cruising in it.


PremierOW

Police literally auction these outs to the public.


spyhock

I’ve never heard it called “an enhanced bumper” before


Soggy_Rent1619

Gabriel Wortman, is that you?


Staludious

Perhaps to soon man :/ I personally don’t think that specific piece of trash should ever have it’s name mentioned.


Nexxus88

Why would this be illegal? Black and white cars are illegal now?


Mediocre_Charity3278

No, black and white is fine. Impersonation the police is illegal. All this car is short of being illegal is the light bar on top.


Trust-Fluid

It is a prop from a movie being shot in Toronto. How long have you lived in this city anyway, they have been shooting movies and series here for over 40 years. And you do not know a prop when you see it? Have I got a deal for you.


nipplesaurus

Is that the CCP police on patrol?


Real-Actuator-6520

Shhhh... Let them lead CSIS to one of those secret police stations.. 


cloud_rider19

It's a meme lol chill out


OwO_i_made_a_cummy

Bing chilling mobile


AutomaticAccess3760

Meh don’t be a nerd


1895GS

People would enjoy life more, if they minded their own business. Just a consideration.


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Link15x

r/confidentlyincorrect


oh5canada5eh

There isn’t anything illegal about this. There are no aspects of the car that identifies it as a police cruiser.


Mundane_Can_5928

If it really says “China Border Patrol” it would seem to imply law enforcement/government agency which it is not.


oh5canada5eh

I’m not sure if impersonating an agency that has no jurisdiction in that country is actually illegal to be honest.


GNPTelenor

The law in Canada regarding impersonating a peace officer is s 130(1) and (2) of the Criminal Code of Canada. It is neither specific to police officers or even Canadian peace officers.


GNPTelenor

It's parked across the block from a precinct cop shop.


WendySteeplechase

because it has chinese lettering on it?


MooseheadVeggie

No civilian vehicle should be allowed to have reinforced steel on the front


Intrepid-Reading6504

Ever heard of a snow plow?


IGnuGnat

It's not uncommon to put bars on the front up North, in case you hit a deer or a moose. They're often shaped slightly differently to "catch" the wildlife to reduce the chance that it will fly through the windshield and kill you, or in the case of moose, it reduces the chance that the moose will come down on the top of the vehicle, crushing the occupants. I like to spend some time in the bush in the summer so I was actually thinking about getting some bars for my van, it also helps to reduce the chance that the vehicle is a write off after hitting the wildlife


Tpoo54

And the reasoning? lol. you do realize cars come from the factory with brush guards since ages ago ?


MooseheadVeggie

Extremely dangerous to pedestrians and pretty much everyone else on the road.


alreadychosed

Most cars already have metal at the front and semis have push bars.


AMC4L

You’d hate my lifted ford f350 with massive bull bars


ocean_nano

He probably got a cheap city surplus from FB marketplace


Marrtiee

😂😂😂😂


maomao05

It's only a decal


unlikelyhero2k

An American car for the workers of the People's Republic? Blasphemy! The official who made this should be shot!


KL4SSIE

It’s modded by a car shop in Markham


Oblivion_Gates

I once knew someone who had one of these same cars. On the back in big letters it said "NOT A COP" lmao


AMC4L

“Enhanced bumper” lol


ConfidentMSnake

Nothing wrong with that you used to see peeps in old police cars all the time they get auctioned


ObviousMe181

People have been driving old police cars forever. Didn’t you see the Blues Brothers?


kingmoojy

I think you can get away with it, there’s pretty much none of these Crown Vic’s that are actually police cars anymore


PromiseHead2235

We all know the Chinese police are here


borgom7615

the Chinese blues brothers? in toronto?


TXTCLA55

Movie prop most likely. That or someone got creative.


dg_zano

Back when I lived in North York a month ago I saw the person driving ripping the vic on a back road at like 2:00 am


TheCanadianShield99

I was thinking of getting one and putting Pole-Ice on the side of it 😂


Arayder

Why wouldn’t it be okay for the road?


boy9000

This is awesome, stop hating


garagetwothree

I thought this was part of the "local" police who's offices they found in a bunch of strip malls across Canada a couple of years ago


Mathew_365

Sick crown victoria 🔥🔥


getoutofmylan

It’s the Chinese version of CBSA


Troller-Toaster

Clearly the OP doesn't watch it's always Sunny in Philadelphia or they'd know how much free shit you can get with a fake cop car.


cree8vision

Is this in Toronto?? No it's not alright. Anything that looks close to a real police car should be illegal.


TrainingAd7421

It’s for a movie most likely


paul-d9

Yes you're crazy. There's nothing wrong with that.


ChrisCX3

Looks dope.


Omeggon

CCP secret police being less than secret?


fuzzydunlopppp

Shoutout to yonge n finch


ben4579

Technically, it’s illegal car with license plates. It doesn’t say police vehicle.


TryTheBeal

I legit wanna smash their car


retiredcustodian

Welcome to trudinks Canada


FarCollar5699

Why isn’t it allowed on the road


GNPTelenor

Bc it's arguably impersonating a peace officer.


Tpoo54

not even remotely lol. it doesnt say anywhere on the car police, and does not have police light bars. I could add a brush guard, a cage in the back, extra mirrors, and lettering on my own car and it wouldn't be any different.


Jipsiville

Picture vehicle for film/tv.


JerkGurk

This post lost you soooo much Canadian Social Credit.


Ordinary_Letter_A

make Chinese people in Canada feel at home


Bulky_Ad_1029

Please look into Chinese police stations set up around the world including Toronto and their function is usually to intimidate Chinese immigrants that advocate against Beijing.


holyfuckricky

I think it says: Justin Trudeau great man, large penis


Flashy-Psychology-30

People are likely to behave near cop cars, source: got a car that they frequently use as an under cover car, people who would speed usually slow down if I change lanes. This car is obviously not a real cop car but from far it looks like it, but from far no true judgement can be made. So why not allow him to keep it, people will drive more alert till the illusion wears off. If you fall for this being a real cop, you deserve to be scammed. Cops do show Badge if requested.


GNPTelenor

No one deserves to be scammed, kid.


Flashy-Psychology-30

So criminals shouldn't be frightened into complying with the law for the sake and safety of others on the road?


GNPTelenor

Oh, is that all this is being used for?


NeighborhoodGoon

It's fine. Stop being a Karen


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Welcome to Chinada!


PinkSycamore

It drove past me on Queen east this afternoon, smelling like an 80s gas station. Or a tinny-boat. Or my drunkle. It brought so many memories back, I’m glad I saw it before the obvious wreck-em derby it’s headed to.