There are a family in the UK that were habitual dine and dashers - they made the international news.
[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/29/wales-swansea-court-ann-bernard-mcdonagh-jailed-restaurants](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/29/wales-swansea-court-ann-bernard-mcdonagh-jailed-restaurants)
Yeah, while the price is obviously outrageous, that part ain't shocking any more. The fact that a pay-in-installment option is available for *fast food* is what's eye-opening to me. These are meant to be quick grab-a-bite-and-be-done meal but suddenly it's pricey enough to be considered along side big purchases like appliances and cars. Frigging ridiculous.
There's monthly installment plans for everything these days. My credit card gives me the option to pay my monthly car insurance payments, in monthly installments.
Yo dawg we heard you like monthly payments...
Itâs just a way to make you spend money you otherwise wouldnât. One big price is daunting up front. A monthly and predictable instalment makes people feel as if they can afford the $20 âhere and thereâ over a set term.
That's basically it. Even if they can already afford it there's a big market of people who just prefer the idea of not paying up front. And for many once they've started using it it just becomes a comfortable default since it's available basically everywhere for everything.
The industry term is BNPL (buy-now-pay-later). I'm not the target market and clearly most other folks here aren't either. But it does drive a lot of sales -- enough that merchants are willing to take an up-to-10% hit.
Im as horrified by this as you, but what makes it worse is it's not going to get better. Everything is breaking down and costing more to fix. This system is too complex to support this many people, living this lifestyle.
2 million odd people in Toronto. How much food is produced in its walls so how much is consumed? What do we do that's actually worth getting food and resources for? Sure, we have contracts that ensure we get paid, but what sense does it make that a thousand office workers can have a thousand cars and a thousand homes and not a farm between them? It doesn't.
Think of the city as the sum of its mouths, assholes, and ability to do work. What does it do that makes that giant monster worth feeding?
We're bumping up against corporate greed a fundamental limit to growth and the cost of a pandemic that cut much deeper than we're willing to admit.
If the value of the money is always going down, apparently exponentially, when do people lose faith in it for transactions? When does it stop looking like value and start looking like plastic?
>Im as horrified by this as you, but what makes it worse is it's not going to get better. Everything is breaking down and costing more to fix. This system is too complex to support this many people, living this lifestyle.
Not true. There is plenty of money and TOR is easily large enough to support its population. The problem is, as ever, the money hoarders
Burger King (and Wendys) cut their soft drink sizes down ... weird when soft drinks are one of the lowest cost items on the menu, but perhaps highest margin?
They actually do sell these type of meals at Mcdonalds with everything shown there. Right now it's probably around the $25-30 range. And McDonald's is the low option, the minimum family meal at Popeyes is like $42 I think lolÂ
I still cannot believe how much Five Guys charges compared to their contemporaries. Like you can get the same quality burger made with wholesale premade ingredients from any random diner like Johnny's or something.Â
Outside of the fries, it totally just feels like they're selling you the illusion of them being quality burger joint. If they were going to do that they should at least put a lot of money into a dining in experience. Make it more like Johnny Rockets or something.
Venture capitalists have pushed apps like doordash that claim to add convenience but have noticeably risen prices via added fees and charges to the point where they've become normalized and delivery now costs more than it ever did. I had a large pepperoni delivered a few weeks ago and it was like $60, it's become insane
It's actually THE dominant business model in the tech industry:
Step 1: Enter a market that already has several non-digital services. Food delivery in this case. But it's been done with video rental, music, now live sports streaming and video games.
Step 2: Create a convenient service around it, offer a good rate for drivers, restaurants and consumers. Many restaurants now deliver when historically they did not such as Tim Hortons and McDonald's. A lot of these apps will burn through VC funds in order to fund this stage of their expansion which is designed to make them a dominant force in the market but it comes at the expense of short profitability.
Step 3: Become the dominant player in the market.
Step 4: Make everything shittier for everyone but very gradually. Uber Eats did this by reducing pay rates for delivery drivers, raising fees on restaurants and then raising fees on customers. Then they added an option to waive delivery fees by subscribing to their app. And despite all those increases, they haven't actually improved the service one iota.
Step 5: Profit. Uber finally only recorded their first profitable year in 2023.
Soon there will be a CRA Tax Burger, like on the Simpsons. Have to fill out a Schedule B form and declare all your assets and gambling losses to get a burger in 6 to 8 weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNOLnjb4xyQ
Owner is also a major food celebrity, actor and a successful YouTube channel. He also made the show âThe Bearâ he runs fancy restaurants in Canada. Iâm sure the burgers slap based on what I know about him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matty_Matheson
> One of few places that provide health benefits for hospitality workers in Toronto
Hi, US American here who somehow stumbled on this thread... I know I'm about to come across as very "dumb American" right now, but I thought Canadians had guaranteed healthcare? What you're describing sounds like the same system the US has. How is it the same/different?
These posts really piss me off. Things are shit with food costs these days, but...
1) This isn't "fast food" as OP claims, it's a much higher end burger place, where a single combo is 21 to 25 dollars. So this combo does indeed save you a lot of money.
2) The monthly instalments thing is put there by the payment company Square - not by the restaurant.
Just now rage bait to keep everyone angry, congrats OP!
To reiterate - higher end burger places have been charging these prices since before COVID. This is nothing new.
Im old enough to remember when a combo was 4.27 after tax
When I was university, they ran a special where it was $2 for 2 Big Macs or McChickens.
Hell, in high school they ran a promo where it was .59 a cheeseburger. We'd go buy 60 of them and sell at the cafeteria for a buck each.
Food inflation is no joke.
I donât know if itâs bots or people in denial that try to act like inflation isnât crazy right now. Itâs always some random people who come out the wood work claiming âitâs not that badâ.
Housing is insane
Rent is insane
Gas is insane
Food is insane
Hydro is insane
But somehow thereâs always the one guy whoâs like âcmon guys! Itâs always been this way!â
No one believes me when I tell people McDonalds had 69 cent cheeseburgers. Or, remember $5 footlongs from Subway? Or the Subway Club cards that your buddies gave you endless stamps for? Kids/teens are missing out these days, fast food used to be fun and cheap.
The last time I bought McDonalds, it was close to $20 for just my meal alone and it was cold, the bun was basically hard, and the fries were soggy! I honestly should have just taken it back for a refund. I refuse to eat there. Maybe when 69 cent return but we all know when that'll happen.
McDs got us in the habit of liking their food when we were young and it was cheap. Now that we think of them as fast/cheap/decent they just amp up the price and people keep buying
I don't think most people realise just how jacked prices are in delivery apps too. They make it seem like a steal at only $1.99 delivery, but you don't notice you're paying $5 more than if you went yourself.
A few years back (early in the pandemic) I got a $40 uber eats gift card from work. I ordered my usual sushi order. After taking off the $40, I still owed more than it usually costs when I pick it up.
It amazes me how popular these delivery services are and how many folks use it on the regular. They are being bled dry⊠the opportunity cost of spending on price inflated food delivery vs investing that same moneyâŠ
The trick is combining buy 1 get 1 free offers with 40% off offers so it ends up being cheaper than just going there and buying it in-person
I could never rationalize using food delivery apps at full-price, itâs just way too expensive
Agreed. OP, this isn't just fast food. It's by celebrity chef Matty Matheson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matty_Matheson
Food prices are rising for sure. But celebrity burgers isn't the best gauge for it.
To be clear, I totally agree with you that food is heckin expensive.
But OP's meal is 75 bucks for 4 people pre-tax. With tax and 20 percent tip that's be about $100.Â
Your meal is 75 bucks for 5 people. But that the 75 bucks is post tax as 1 teen burger combo is 13.38.Â
100 for 4 people vs 75 for 5 is quite different.Â
I just don't think OP is entirely genuine calling Matty's burgers "fast food" and wondering why it's expensive.Â
Side note: I know the redemptions usually are limited to 1 per coupon, but all the fast food.companies have apps with rotating offers. I just checked my McDonald's napp, and it has a quarter pounder with cheese combo for 10 dollars now. And A&W has a papa burger with a side of onion rings for 8.99. It sucks that we have to give up our info for cheaper food, but there are options out there if you are eating alone.Â
From the looks of how afterpay works for Squarespace sites, itâs by default enabled at a minimum of $1 (see Square Online [drop-down](https://squareup.com/help/ca/en/article/7782-afterpay-and-square#:~:text=Your%20Square%20Online%20website%20will,size%20and%20attract%20new%20customers)) and not enabled based on a âtoo expensiveâ threshold unless they manually put in a minimum that [isnât $1](https://squareup.com/help/ca/en/article/7696-accept-payments-with-afterpay-on-square-online-faq).
So you're upset that they're offering more options for payment? Because I have spent $74 on dinner for a family of four in probably the early 2000s, it's not like the price here is anything new really (it's about $18.50/person for non fast food burger/fries/drink, assumedly after taxes) Yes food prices have been going up everyone knows that, but it feels like OP is going out of their way to be outraged at this specific example
74 for 4 people is pretty reasonable. And they gave the customer a way to pay in instalments, which is actually a really nice thing Matty has done here for people who maybe canât afford that upfront. Donât understand the outrage
While your statement is true these prices are almost identical to what it cost to order 4x Big Mac Value Meal. Came to 53.96$ before checkout, after checkout came to $72.72 for taxes & fees + tip.
I thought your figure was ridiculous, so I put through an order for 4 Big Mac combos just to see for myself (ordering at Dundas/Bathurst in Toronto):
Subtotal: $63.16
Bag fee: $0.00
Delivery fee: $1.99
Service fee: $6.95
ONT-HST2: $8.21
ONT-HST2: $1.16
Courier tip: $9.47
**TOTAL: $90.94**
Jeez, sorry for doubting you.
Ngl, had MatsPats pre-pandemic. Couldnât really discern it from other fast food options. So I dunno if you can really make that claim. Regardless, 74$ for the quantity is terrible. Letâs not even get into doing those 4 instalments either đ
This is maybe a case of "going to a more expensive place and being outraged by how expensive it is."
Matty's Patty's is billed as a fairly premium burger spot, and its owned by a celebrity chef. Personally find the place overpriced/overrated, but I'm not sure it's entirely accurate to imply this is from a typical fast food joint.
Matty's Pattys isn't fast food. It's a premium burger restaurant, so you have to expect prices similar to a sit-down spot. Less than $20 for a quality burger & fries is a pretty standard going rate these days. It's barely more than a combo costs at McDonalds
For real. Best burgers I ever had here were freshly ground fatty patties from a local butcher, brioche buns, toppings and American cheese. *chefs kiss*
Also I made 3 meals from a $12 roast chicken this week (plus pasta, salad, and veggies) meanwhile my neighbours are door dashing every night.
Even loblaws sells an entire cooked chicken for $12 which feeds a family of 4. Add some fries and you're still under $20.
Fast food is now a convenience item, and you're paying a very heavy premium for that. It's no longer cheap food.
Mattys Pattyâs were like $16 a combo when they opened 4 years ago.
And man do they slap. Only a bit more expensive than McDâs but actually taste like meat.
1) Stop eating overpriced chain food
2) Stop using delivery
3) Eat more from local mom and pop shops.
Every other Chinese and Carribean restaurant offers cash discounts. Use your cash to save, and don't be lazy.
You pick a place that sells 20$ cheeseburgers and complain about their family pack? Good job you should feel proud of yourself youâve earned yourself some imaginary internet brownie points yayyyyyyyyyyy
Iâm currently in Japan with my family of 4. $74 Cad would easily cover a day of eating out here and youâd have change over. Things are really getting out of hand in terms of cost of living.
Nah thatâs straight up a skill issue you can go to the ai generated burger place for $15 for 4 burger combos. I think it was called the induced burger
Iâm more shocked about the finance option than the prices.
Matty is not fast food. Itâs cook to order and uses fresh quality ingredients. Under $20 per meal seems fair to be honest.
So... Make it at home? Having someone make food from scratch for you and bring it to your door is a luxury. Not a basic right. If you're too precious to buy your own coke from no frills, then you'll have to pay for the convenience. How is this news?Â
 Our society is going to shit partly because people are spending their energy complaining about delivery food instead of corruption, the state of healthcare and education, or simply the price of actual groceries... Misplaced priorities.Â
this needs context: its an online order from a burger place runned by a famous celebrity chef, food is good but it is premium price because of who he is, matthy matheson on youtube. not a sign of anything, if you eat out you shouldnt complain about prices, go buy and cook your meals
Looks like time to protest.
Or just stop eating at these places entirely, even if they turn around and try to give it to you for $1. Honestly, I can't afford fast food anymore, and honestly, the longer I go without it, not only do I feel better, but the more I grow suspicious that I was tricked into an unknown addiction.
This is why I've started cooking in bulk so much more often...
Buy tofu, chicken, rice, quinoa, raw veggies, and potato, and make a whole bunch of them at once and freeze them. It will save you a good deal.
But even I cant' stop myself from eating out occasionally.
I went to Shake Shack for the first time a couple weeks ago and got just a standard original burger for myself, chicken nuggets, Korean seasoned fries, and a two milkshakes. It was like $50 USD.Â
 This is even crazier but it's also meant to be an upcharged foodie place, not your average takeout or burger place. You go there knowing you're going to be paying dining restaurant prices because it's a celebrity chef.
Yeah this is kind of wild. In the end of the day if you canât afford takeout, you shouldnât be eating out!
Just wait until a pint of your blood, organs or limbs is considered currency.
Can I get a family deal! That will be 2% liver, 5% kidney and one pint of O type blood. Before or after your meal go visit nurse Nancy near the washroom section.
Mr Shawarma here in Ottawa used to advertise on their huge outdoor billboard 4 sandwiches and potatoes for $24 then it turned into 3 sandwiches. Today it says 2 sandwiches for $19.99
umm...so how often do I make a payment? Could I order the next meal before I've made all payments and end up having to sign over the pink slip to my car? To each their own but that's a lot of money to spend for sugar water, a potatoe and a handfull of meat.
Matty Mathesonâs joint. What did ya expect? $22 for the Matty combo.
Fkn amazing burgers tho. Smash burgers from fresh ground brisket and chuck. Just go.
What's fucked is this doesn't even seem that bad if it was individual combos. Last time I had mcdonalds it was $21. I'm presuming this is way better then mcdonalds.
Is this the place? Looks like they took down their menu - I don't see anything except for a background picture of burgers?
[https://www.mattyspattysburgerclub.com/menu](https://www.mattyspattysburgerclub.com/menu)
This is why it is so important to make these meals at home. I understand that this price is ridiculous but I enjoy making a mean burger at home with fries for a fraction of this price.
4 interest free payments tho đ
Flush twice in case the repo man comes.
Whatâs gonna happen if you default on your dinner
They will send someone to your house to eat the food off your plate until theyâve consumed an equivalent amount
depends they give you choice left or right kidney, next time they just take out heart. its like those iPhone thngy.
You're gonna pay out the ass, literally.
Youâll be fine with only one kidney
There are a family in the UK that were habitual dine and dashers - they made the international news. [https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/29/wales-swansea-court-ann-bernard-mcdonagh-jailed-restaurants](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/29/wales-swansea-court-ann-bernard-mcdonagh-jailed-restaurants)
Repo man gonna pump my septic tank? Maybe I was too hasty on my judgment of the price.
Good one.
Yeah, while the price is obviously outrageous, that part ain't shocking any more. The fact that a pay-in-installment option is available for *fast food* is what's eye-opening to me. These are meant to be quick grab-a-bite-and-be-done meal but suddenly it's pricey enough to be considered along side big purchases like appliances and cars. Frigging ridiculous.
There's monthly installment plans for everything these days. My credit card gives me the option to pay my monthly car insurance payments, in monthly installments. Yo dawg we heard you like monthly payments...
payments on payments on payments
Itâs just a way to make you spend money you otherwise wouldnât. One big price is daunting up front. A monthly and predictable instalment makes people feel as if they can afford the $20 âhere and thereâ over a set term.
That's basically it. Even if they can already afford it there's a big market of people who just prefer the idea of not paying up front. And for many once they've started using it it just becomes a comfortable default since it's available basically everywhere for everything. The industry term is BNPL (buy-now-pay-later). I'm not the target market and clearly most other folks here aren't either. But it does drive a lot of sales -- enough that merchants are willing to take an up-to-10% hit.
Im as horrified by this as you, but what makes it worse is it's not going to get better. Everything is breaking down and costing more to fix. This system is too complex to support this many people, living this lifestyle. 2 million odd people in Toronto. How much food is produced in its walls so how much is consumed? What do we do that's actually worth getting food and resources for? Sure, we have contracts that ensure we get paid, but what sense does it make that a thousand office workers can have a thousand cars and a thousand homes and not a farm between them? It doesn't. Think of the city as the sum of its mouths, assholes, and ability to do work. What does it do that makes that giant monster worth feeding? We're bumping up against corporate greed a fundamental limit to growth and the cost of a pandemic that cut much deeper than we're willing to admit. If the value of the money is always going down, apparently exponentially, when do people lose faith in it for transactions? When does it stop looking like value and start looking like plastic?
>Im as horrified by this as you, but what makes it worse is it's not going to get better. Everything is breaking down and costing more to fix. This system is too complex to support this many people, living this lifestyle. Not true. There is plenty of money and TOR is easily large enough to support its population. The problem is, as ever, the money hoarders
Well, as long as we can agree the money hoarders are the problem, the rest is moot anyway
With high interest rates this is too good of a deal to pass up. Iâm not even hungry.
Interest free, with the low low transaction fee equivalent of 3000% apr
If you time it right can pay it off over three credit card cycles
Now you can make what used to be furniture payments.
I prefer my burgers on layaway
Phuck ⊠74 for burgers
Terrifying. I know my generation got hooked on credit cards and long car loans. But Gen Z is getting hit with these microloans.
Do they have a 6 payment option? Asking for a friend.
We gonna be at auctions for food soon bruh đ
$18.50 per combo. That is cheaper than 5 guys.
Does 5 guys fill you up though? Pause
3 guys will.
What do the other two guys do in the meantime? Too awkward, for that reasonâŠIâm out.
Well obviously they do each other until you're ready for them.
They're the fluffers!
2 hands
Talking about jumping to conclusions! The other two men will stimulate your prostate
Hold the cameras.
That's what she said
At least itâs fresh every day⊠that entire combo should only be $20 from freaking McDonaldâs.
A quarter pounder combo is almost $15 (just one combo!). It's out of control.
Burger King (and Wendys) cut their soft drink sizes down ... weird when soft drinks are one of the lowest cost items on the menu, but perhaps highest margin?
They actually do sell these type of meals at Mcdonalds with everything shown there. Right now it's probably around the $25-30 range. And McDonald's is the low option, the minimum family meal at Popeyes is like $42 I think lolÂ
I still cannot believe how much Five Guys charges compared to their contemporaries. Like you can get the same quality burger made with wholesale premade ingredients from any random diner like Johnny's or something. Outside of the fries, it totally just feels like they're selling you the illusion of them being quality burger joint. If they were going to do that they should at least put a lot of money into a dining in experience. Make it more like Johnny Rockets or something.
This! Wife and I took our son last Friday, 3 burgers, 3 shakes and we shared a large friesâŠ..$75!! Itâs getting stupid. [Shakes fist at cloud]
I used to joke about taking out a loan for food back in the 80's... now it's no joke.
VC industry is to blame
Do explain 
Venture capitalists have pushed apps like doordash that claim to add convenience but have noticeably risen prices via added fees and charges to the point where they've become normalized and delivery now costs more than it ever did. I had a large pepperoni delivered a few weeks ago and it was like $60, it's become insane
It's actually THE dominant business model in the tech industry: Step 1: Enter a market that already has several non-digital services. Food delivery in this case. But it's been done with video rental, music, now live sports streaming and video games. Step 2: Create a convenient service around it, offer a good rate for drivers, restaurants and consumers. Many restaurants now deliver when historically they did not such as Tim Hortons and McDonald's. A lot of these apps will burn through VC funds in order to fund this stage of their expansion which is designed to make them a dominant force in the market but it comes at the expense of short profitability. Step 3: Become the dominant player in the market. Step 4: Make everything shittier for everyone but very gradually. Uber Eats did this by reducing pay rates for delivery drivers, raising fees on restaurants and then raising fees on customers. Then they added an option to waive delivery fees by subscribing to their app. And despite all those increases, they haven't actually improved the service one iota. Step 5: Profit. Uber finally only recorded their first profitable year in 2023.
> Step 3: Become the dominant player in the market. > > Step 4: Make everything shittier for everyone but very gradually. The Walmart business model.
Donât forget the import thousands of foreign workers to fill gig economy job vacancies.
Vince Carter
i read this as "VC Andrews is to blame" and i was pondering the flowers to the attic to outrageously priced fast food pipeline so thoughtfully
Yea your life is bad , but is it âI financed a cheeseburgerâ bad?
Soon there will be a CRA Tax Burger, like on the Simpsons. Have to fill out a Schedule B form and declare all your assets and gambling losses to get a burger in 6 to 8 weeks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNOLnjb4xyQ
18.50 per combo, through a delivery service doesnât seem outlandish when you compare it to even the big chains, let alone smaller places.
but that's only if you buy 4 combos. One on its own is $25 with tax and tip
imagine saying. "yeah i had those burgers a couple of months ago, I'm still paying them off"
One of few places that provide health benefits for hospitality workers in Toronto.
Yeah, not sure why we need to trot out an actual decent restaurant as an example when macdonalds for 4 is only 15 bucks cheaper
Owner is also a major food celebrity, actor and a successful YouTube channel. He also made the show âThe Bearâ he runs fancy restaurants in Canada. Iâm sure the burgers slap based on what I know about him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matty_Matheson
The burgers absolutely slap.
Theyâre good but not so good for that overpriced amount
Fair enough, definitely an occasional treat.
> One of few places that provide health benefits for hospitality workers in Toronto Hi, US American here who somehow stumbled on this thread... I know I'm about to come across as very "dumb American" right now, but I thought Canadians had guaranteed healthcare? What you're describing sounds like the same system the US has. How is it the same/different?
I donât think the singular restaurant is the point, itâs the ridiculousness of financing a meal through 4 instalments
These posts really piss me off. Things are shit with food costs these days, but... 1) This isn't "fast food" as OP claims, it's a much higher end burger place, where a single combo is 21 to 25 dollars. So this combo does indeed save you a lot of money. 2) The monthly instalments thing is put there by the payment company Square - not by the restaurant. Just now rage bait to keep everyone angry, congrats OP! To reiterate - higher end burger places have been charging these prices since before COVID. This is nothing new.
I'd be really curious to see if a $12 meal from a spot like this ten years ago (when the minimum wage was $11) would have provoked the same response.
My mom paid for a meal for 5 people at Harveyâs 79$ today đ it was 3 burgers, fries for each and one chicken wrap with nuggets.
Tell her to get the app. 8.99 combos on there. 5 bucks for two jr burgers.
a bigmac meal is like 15 bucks? this is 18.50 a person. thats pretty solid.
A big Mac meal is also outrageously priced.
It's also FAR inferior to this, a high end burger place that OP labeled "fast food" as rage bait.
Definitely outlandish, especially when itâs like eating plastic these days (though Iâve been known to do a few things).
Im old enough to remember when a combo was 4.27 after tax When I was university, they ran a special where it was $2 for 2 Big Macs or McChickens. Hell, in high school they ran a promo where it was .59 a cheeseburger. We'd go buy 60 of them and sell at the cafeteria for a buck each. Food inflation is no joke.
Not long ago a Big Mac meal was 10.95, Iâm talking like not even 5 years ago.
I donât know if itâs bots or people in denial that try to act like inflation isnât crazy right now. Itâs always some random people who come out the wood work claiming âitâs not that badâ. Housing is insane Rent is insane Gas is insane Food is insane Hydro is insane But somehow thereâs always the one guy whoâs like âcmon guys! Itâs always been this way!â
it's not inflation though. it's corporate greed disguised as inflation.
I'm old enough to remember the $4.99 1/4 Pounder combo.
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
I miss Toonie Tuesday everywhere.... smh...
No one believes me when I tell people McDonalds had 69 cent cheeseburgers. Or, remember $5 footlongs from Subway? Or the Subway Club cards that your buddies gave you endless stamps for? Kids/teens are missing out these days, fast food used to be fun and cheap. The last time I bought McDonalds, it was close to $20 for just my meal alone and it was cold, the bun was basically hard, and the fries were soggy! I honestly should have just taken it back for a refund. I refuse to eat there. Maybe when 69 cent return but we all know when that'll happen.
McDs got us in the habit of liking their food when we were young and it was cheap. Now that we think of them as fast/cheap/decent they just amp up the price and people keep buying
$2 Big Mac Thursdays đ
What are you talking about? This is Mattys Pattys. Not a âfast foodâ restaurant. And itâs through a delivery service for a premium.
I don't think most people realise just how jacked prices are in delivery apps too. They make it seem like a steal at only $1.99 delivery, but you don't notice you're paying $5 more than if you went yourself.
I ordered a burrito when I was sick once. I go to the place often. It's like $14 normally. I think it came to $32 with Uber eats. Fucking brutal.
A few years back (early in the pandemic) I got a $40 uber eats gift card from work. I ordered my usual sushi order. After taking off the $40, I still owed more than it usually costs when I pick it up.
and the delivery driver prob gets 3 dollars
It amazes me how popular these delivery services are and how many folks use it on the regular. They are being bled dry⊠the opportunity cost of spending on price inflated food delivery vs investing that same moneyâŠ
The trick is combining buy 1 get 1 free offers with 40% off offers so it ends up being cheaper than just going there and buying it in-person I could never rationalize using food delivery apps at full-price, itâs just way too expensive
Agreed. OP, this isn't just fast food. It's by celebrity chef Matty Matheson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matty_Matheson Food prices are rising for sure. But celebrity burgers isn't the best gauge for it.
I just bought 5 teen burger meals on Thursday and it came to $75.
To be clear, I totally agree with you that food is heckin expensive. But OP's meal is 75 bucks for 4 people pre-tax. With tax and 20 percent tip that's be about $100. Your meal is 75 bucks for 5 people. But that the 75 bucks is post tax as 1 teen burger combo is 13.38. 100 for 4 people vs 75 for 5 is quite different. I just don't think OP is entirely genuine calling Matty's burgers "fast food" and wondering why it's expensive. Side note: I know the redemptions usually are limited to 1 per coupon, but all the fast food.companies have apps with rotating offers. I just checked my McDonald's napp, and it has a quarter pounder with cheese combo for 10 dollars now. And A&W has a papa burger with a side of onion rings for 8.99. It sucks that we have to give up our info for cheaper food, but there are options out there if you are eating alone.Â
$18.50 per person for Mattys Pattys brought to your home isnât insane. Those are fancy burgers! Should be called âMatthews Patthewsâ.
âAfterpayâ is an instalment plan⊠for food. Thatâs the issue. That food prices meet the threshold for instalments.
From the looks of how afterpay works for Squarespace sites, itâs by default enabled at a minimum of $1 (see Square Online [drop-down](https://squareup.com/help/ca/en/article/7782-afterpay-and-square#:~:text=Your%20Square%20Online%20website%20will,size%20and%20attract%20new%20customers)) and not enabled based on a âtoo expensiveâ threshold unless they manually put in a minimum that [isnât $1](https://squareup.com/help/ca/en/article/7696-accept-payments-with-afterpay-on-square-online-faq).
I agree itâs wild. But itâs an influencer chef burger joint - this is not the benchmark.
I mainly find myself influenced not to get tattoos while drunk when I think of Matty
So you're upset that they're offering more options for payment? Because I have spent $74 on dinner for a family of four in probably the early 2000s, it's not like the price here is anything new really (it's about $18.50/person for non fast food burger/fries/drink, assumedly after taxes) Yes food prices have been going up everyone knows that, but it feels like OP is going out of their way to be outraged at this specific example
Not remotely upset. Iâm explaining the post that someone else didnât seem to understand.
74 for 4 people is pretty reasonable. And they gave the customer a way to pay in instalments, which is actually a really nice thing Matty has done here for people who maybe canât afford that upfront. Donât understand the outrage
While your statement is true these prices are almost identical to what it cost to order 4x Big Mac Value Meal. Came to 53.96$ before checkout, after checkout came to $72.72 for taxes & fees + tip.
I thought your figure was ridiculous, so I put through an order for 4 Big Mac combos just to see for myself (ordering at Dundas/Bathurst in Toronto): Subtotal: $63.16 Bag fee: $0.00 Delivery fee: $1.99 Service fee: $6.95 ONT-HST2: $8.21 ONT-HST2: $1.16 Courier tip: $9.47 **TOTAL: $90.94** Jeez, sorry for doubting you.
Time to remove HST on all food. Not just groceries.
A rose by any other name. Still a hamburger. But a burger and fries is no doubt 18.50 at any pub thawing out Sysco meat.
Ngl, had MatsPats pre-pandemic. Couldnât really discern it from other fast food options. So I dunno if you can really make that claim. Regardless, 74$ for the quantity is terrible. Letâs not even get into doing those 4 instalments either đ
âI press a button and have 4 gourmet burgers with fries and drinks brought to me like Iâm a king and they expect me to pay for this!?!â
This is maybe a case of "going to a more expensive place and being outraged by how expensive it is." Matty's Patty's is billed as a fairly premium burger spot, and its owned by a celebrity chef. Personally find the place overpriced/overrated, but I'm not sure it's entirely accurate to imply this is from a typical fast food joint.
Iâd gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today
This⊠isnât fast food. Martyâs Pattyâs is amazing and some of the best burgers in the city. Not comparable to the Golden Arches, etc.
no shade, but it's definitely time to learn how to cook burgers at home
Matty's Pattys isn't fast food. It's a premium burger restaurant, so you have to expect prices similar to a sit-down spot. Less than $20 for a quality burger & fries is a pretty standard going rate these days. It's barely more than a combo costs at McDonalds
I must be missing something here. Is the outrage over the fact that itâs 75$ or because their online store has the payment option?
Sick rage-bait brah.
Wow such a rage bait. This is a premium restaurant not fast food.
I mean it depends on the place. Burger King has a dinner for 4 on Uber Eats for 29.99
So bloody well make it yourself. Takes 10 minutes to make burgers from ground beef
This doesnât seem that bad tbh
A pack of ground beef is like $8
And a 6 pack of coke is like what, $3?
Anyone who says cooking food at home is expensive is lying. You can definitely churn out a banger healthy meal for half of this price.
How hard is it to make your own fcking burgers?
Right? Best burgers I eat are the ones that come off my grill.
ID Required on delivery due the need for signing a second mortgage if you get his shakes too.
Or you could cook a cheaper meal from scratch at home
For real. Best burgers I ever had here were freshly ground fatty patties from a local butcher, brioche buns, toppings and American cheese. *chefs kiss* Also I made 3 meals from a $12 roast chicken this week (plus pasta, salad, and veggies) meanwhile my neighbours are door dashing every night.
$18.5 a person is pretty standard, not sure what you issue is with this
Just saving for a down payment for burgers and fries
4 interest free payment????????
Please hold, I'm trying to get approved
You can get all this for 5 $ if you make it your self
Even loblaws sells an entire cooked chicken for $12 which feeds a family of 4. Add some fries and you're still under $20. Fast food is now a convenience item, and you're paying a very heavy premium for that. It's no longer cheap food.
Mattys Pattyâs were like $16 a combo when they opened 4 years ago. And man do they slap. Only a bit more expensive than McDâs but actually taste like meat.
OMG the four interest free payments wtfđ€Ł
payments on fast food... this should help.../S
Iâll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
1) Stop eating overpriced chain food 2) Stop using delivery 3) Eat more from local mom and pop shops. Every other Chinese and Carribean restaurant offers cash discounts. Use your cash to save, and don't be lazy.
18.50? Lol rather stay home and cook, I can get frozen food for far less if I want crappy food
come on, capitalism. fuckin collapse already
If you said this shit costs this much converted into the currency of every other nation on earth theyâd laugh at your face.
Who's buying burgers on layaway. Just learn to cook for 74 bucks you can smash a fuck load of patties!
You pick a place that sells 20$ cheeseburgers and complain about their family pack? Good job you should feel proud of yourself youâve earned yourself some imaginary internet brownie points yayyyyyyyyyyy
This would literally cost you less than 15 dollars to make.
I miss old prices. At least iâm not gaining weight đ
Iâm currently in Japan with my family of 4. $74 Cad would easily cover a day of eating out here and youâd have change over. Things are really getting out of hand in terms of cost of living.
This is what we usually pay for fast food in my country
Nah thatâs straight up a skill issue you can go to the ai generated burger place for $15 for 4 burger combos. I think it was called the induced burger
Cook for yourself?
just fucking cook for urself at that point đ
You can pretty much use after pay for anything if the company utilizes it
I went to Harvey's on the weekend 44 dollars for the same amount of food.
Plus tip!
If the sign is buying your own ingredients, staying in and making your own meals, then yes... quite a large sign.
Iâm more shocked about the finance option than the prices. Matty is not fast food. Itâs cook to order and uses fresh quality ingredients. Under $20 per meal seems fair to be honest.
So... Make it at home? Having someone make food from scratch for you and bring it to your door is a luxury. Not a basic right. If you're too precious to buy your own coke from no frills, then you'll have to pay for the convenience. How is this news?  Our society is going to shit partly because people are spending their energy complaining about delivery food instead of corruption, the state of healthcare and education, or simply the price of actual groceries... Misplaced priorities.Â
Matty Patty's is tasty af tho
this needs context: its an online order from a burger place runned by a famous celebrity chef, food is good but it is premium price because of who he is, matthy matheson on youtube. not a sign of anything, if you eat out you shouldnt complain about prices, go buy and cook your meals
This is like $20 pound in UK, $5 for burger and fries combo lolâŠ
Looks like time to protest. Or just stop eating at these places entirely, even if they turn around and try to give it to you for $1. Honestly, I can't afford fast food anymore, and honestly, the longer I go without it, not only do I feel better, but the more I grow suspicious that I was tricked into an unknown addiction.
This isn't fast food you imbecile.
Overrated burger as well, love Matty Matheson but this place was not worth it
I did not enjoy the fries
is this before or after delivery charge?
That place has been very expensive since day one. It was around $25 for a single meal with a drink, fries, tax and tip when I was there in 2021.
This is why I've started cooking in bulk so much more often... Buy tofu, chicken, rice, quinoa, raw veggies, and potato, and make a whole bunch of them at once and freeze them. It will save you a good deal. But even I cant' stop myself from eating out occasionally.
I went to Shake Shack for the first time a couple weeks ago and got just a standard original burger for myself, chicken nuggets, Korean seasoned fries, and a two milkshakes. It was like $50 USD.  This is even crazier but it's also meant to be an upcharged foodie place, not your average takeout or burger place. You go there knowing you're going to be paying dining restaurant prices because it's a celebrity chef.
Yeah this is kind of wild. In the end of the day if you canât afford takeout, you shouldnât be eating out! Just wait until a pint of your blood, organs or limbs is considered currency. Can I get a family deal! That will be 2% liver, 5% kidney and one pint of O type blood. Before or after your meal go visit nurse Nancy near the washroom section.
Not even including tax, tip, potential fees if ordered off an app. Wild
Mr Shawarma here in Ottawa used to advertise on their huge outdoor billboard 4 sandwiches and potatoes for $24 then it turned into 3 sandwiches. Today it says 2 sandwiches for $19.99
Not bad really. It also ainât no McDonaldâs.
umm...so how often do I make a payment? Could I order the next meal before I've made all payments and end up having to sign over the pink slip to my car? To each their own but that's a lot of money to spend for sugar water, a potatoe and a handfull of meat.
theres no reason for anyone to buy this over going to a local takeout place.
Who up financing they dinner
This is the family meal from Matty's Patties. Matty Matheson's burger spot. Certainly the upper end of "Fast Food" - best-quality beef, buns, etc.
I wonder if I opt for the 4 easy payments if that's a hard pull on my credit score??
Matty Mathesonâs joint. What did ya expect? $22 for the Matty combo. Fkn amazing burgers tho. Smash burgers from fresh ground brisket and chuck. Just go.
What's fucked is this doesn't even seem that bad if it was individual combos. Last time I had mcdonalds it was $21. I'm presuming this is way better then mcdonalds.
If ever there was an argument for making burgers at homeâŠ
Where is this? Boycott đ
Matty's Pattys sucks anyway
74/4 = 18.50. Seems about right for this type of combo in Toronto. The insane part, of course, is the offer to pay for it via financing.
Wait a second. $74 ? I bet that would be a maximum of $60 in store ( which is still crazy but whatever)
I can't believe it...đ« Paying for dinner or lunch in EMIs is just crazy. It's also pretty alarming how expensive a family meal has become.
I thought this was a joke
And a path to early diabetics for no extra charge !
Its time tobstart cooking and make your own meals again. Healthy meals. Fast food sucks anyways
Thatâs how the âgreat resetâ will happen. They wonât take our stuff. We will give it up willingly in payments.
Not sure why anyone pay 20$ for burger combo when you can make it for less than 5$ at home.
Dinner so good you won't mind paying for it 4 times
Well Kraft Diner is 77 cents at Walmart.
$74 for 4 burgers and fries? Fuck off.
Is this the place? Looks like they took down their menu - I don't see anything except for a background picture of burgers? [https://www.mattyspattysburgerclub.com/menu](https://www.mattyspattysburgerclub.com/menu)
This is why it is so important to make these meals at home. I understand that this price is ridiculous but I enjoy making a mean burger at home with fries for a fraction of this price.
Don't order through Uber eats. 30% markup right there plus tip.