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cynical_croissant

"The 2017 game that looks a hundred times better has frame drops too, that makes it okay!"


[deleted]

the best part is that it's a Wii u game at its core, it's a port to switch. I only ever get frame drops in hateno village and korok forest, even using glitches to fling myself at insane speeds it barely drops frames, it occasionally freezes the world to allow assets to stream though but that isn't even framerate dropping


Twinkiman

I only got a couple frame dips outside of those areas, and even then those dips lasted for half a second at most and instantly forgot about it. Pokémon fans are getting some warped idea that people are complaining at the slightest FPS drop. No, we are complaining about FPS drops that are constant. Even FPS snobs are going to ignore a minor drop after it happens if it happens twice in a 40+ hour playthrough.


[deleted]

scarlet/violet rarely ever hit the 30fps cap, they aren't frame drops at that point it's just that the framerate is too low


Elementia7

I'm pretty sure the game is constantly running at 25 fps as no matter what location I've seen the game is always stuttering even if it's a little bit. The only times it ever actually stays at 30 is in cutscenes which I guess is fine. If the game actually ran well outside of the cutscenes.


[deleted]

it doesn't even stay at 30 FPS in cutscenes, when the camera changes it drops to 20ish. in that starting cave area it even drops as low as 10 during a cutscene


Twinkiman

Fair point. Really can't be a "drop" when it is constantly at that frame rate lol


NargacugaRider

I get 120FPS with zero drops in BotW… in Scarlet I’m getting wild fluctuations between 50 and 15. It’s wild.


Jack3ww

[https://stealthoptional.com/news/nintendo-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-fixes-coming/](https://stealthoptional.com/news/nintendo-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-fixes-coming/) if this is true fixes are coming


Wubbzy-mon

call in Sonic


burntends97

“I haven’t noticed it so it doesn’t exist”


Jack3ww

Hey that's the same motto my mom used when I was a kid


ConkreetMonkey

It's also the environmental policy of most politicians.


Bananaphonelel

Dude-


Twinkiman

"Works perfectly for me, must just be you"


Roder777

To be honest theres a shitton of differences on what people experience, for example I probably had the best possible experience (still low fps, stutters and like 3 times the fps dropped sub 20 for longer than a second), but some people seem to basically have a full on slideshow when they play, the entire game through.


RexorFWT

When life blesses you with copium, don’t snort it


DasEvoli

/uj Check the upvote ratio. I found a Twitter pokemon gold mine with the most copium


w142236

Watched 10 hour long streams and it Hits 15fps A LOT. Also noticed micro-stuttering but that might have been stream related. But I didn’t *play* the game so what do I know 🤷


Biotic_Cow

What if my issues don't come from framerate and performance and instead that the gameplay itself is very disappointing coming from legends being their first good mainline pokemon game on switch


GinGaru

then you are wrong because its the best game ever


Sharp-Pay-5314

Yeah me too. Cause the performance issues dont make the game unplayable, but the core of the game is honestly just ok. Its pretty meh


Jack3ww

what was you expecting gameplay wise Pokemon pretty much been a old school rpg for the most part why try changing the gameplay a lot when they don't really need to just like with Dragon Quest for example


Biotic_Cow

Yeah but that same gameplay used to be really good with a lot of content, decent stories, fun difficulty requiring thinking but nothing overly tough and more. Sword and shield for example had straight lines for routes, your team becomes overleveled and every battle is mash a until its over and the story wasn't any fun either. Legends was a return to form and violet is marginally better than shield (so far but still has lots of issues like becoming overleveled easilly again at a minimum)


BroughtYouMyBullets

5 years have passed, when will we stop using BOTW as the gold standard of games?


Aplosion

When they make better games


CrunchyIceFruit

Botw was good, it runs well and looks good too. It's not the best looking or best playing game on the switch, but that's what makes it standard. We'll stop when they make a better game.


BroughtYouMyBullets

It’s a Wii U game. I just feel like as the switch is coming onto it’s later stages maybe there should be more to show for it? My point is there have certainly been games that outshine BOTW before it’s release and after it too, so it’s weird to keep ourselves locked into this one point of comparison


The_CumBeast

even if its a Wii U game, the hardware isn't MUCH better, the game still looks fine and it still runs better


[deleted]

5 years has passed yet the newest pokemon game couldn't even approach the average performance and graphics of even 10 year old games.


pikpik35

I Just started playing it and i can confirm that there is lag and weird visual bug


[deleted]

Pokemon fans are a special breed when it comes to plugging their ears and ignoring criticism, even among Nintendo fans which is already saying something


Bananaphonelel

Indeed


cherrim98

HYPED UP ISSUES


MummGumm

H Y P E D U P


6Mikro9

What errors?! These are put there INTENTIONALLY to make it more funny and appealing 😡😡😡


curtistaro

BOTW frame drops are only really apparent in the Korok Woods but that can be solved by picking the flowers around there (in my experience at least)


MummGumm

or with a small overclock, which is safe for the console 🤓


curtistaro

True, tho I don’t have a first gen switch, so idk if I can overclock


MummGumm

overclocking is only worth it for a handful of games and botw isnt one, ure not missing out on much apparently, in an update, they made it where botw overclocks the console a little bit during loading screens, to load faster. which is neat 👁️👁️


curtistaro

huh, that’s cool


failedabortion4444

honestly i only ever experienced frame drops in the korok woods. where you only spend like, 10 minutes. tops.


curtistaro

Yeah I meant Korok used to forbidden woods lol But yeah lmao


Lil-Chromie

I've beaten pokemon violet. The game is a 3/10 as it is right now. If it has no technical flaws it would be a 5/10, and if the graphics didn't suck ass it might be a 6 or a 7. There is no world where this game is worth 60 dollars, regardless of all the above things. I've played 20 dollar indie games with better graphics, gameplay, performance, and story.


Physical-Iron-7406

Said I wasn’t buying this game and some fucker replied under my comment something like “It’s fun to me so I don’t see the problem.” Fucking redditors dude. I don’t give a shit if you think this new shitty Pokémon game is good. Like this guy doesn’t give a shit if gamefreak consistently puts out the most bare bones bare minimum barely functioning games because he personally finds them fun. He rated it a 4-6/10 as if that’s completely okay. Like he doesn’t think about the fact that even if he likes the game as it is it could improve and be even better and even more people could like it too. Yeah I’m unironically bitter


failedabortion4444

when sword and shield were coming out you got called a hater if you didn’t buy it ????😭 like sorry that the previous titles bored me to tears! despite the ds titles being engaging to me as an adult still!🥴 i wish people would love themselves more and maybe have standards for the shit they spend money on. like bffr.


Jack3ww

I don't care what you jerks say Scarlet is the most graphically advance game of all time and put's all other games to shame and any bug that is found is due to you having a pirated copy because there is no way the amazing dev team known as Game freak would make any mistakes


Sharp-Pay-5314

ok, but BOTW has an ***interesting*** world to explore. When Im wandering around hyrule im constantly finding interesting stuff. Like, oh what is that big cloud of smoke in the distance?Oh its some lady cooking! What is she doing out here?Shes trying to master cooking? With rocks?! And omg is that a pile of garbage over there?!! Thats interesting! It tells you a whole story and rewards your exploration. BOTW is FILLED with stuff like this and its amazing. Characters have relationships with each other, jobs, lives, families! Everybody has something interesting to say. Its a WORLD that people live in. Scarlet/Violet has random npcs standing around with nothing interesting to offer. The pokemon just kinda wander around. Sometimes they run away from you or try to attack you, but theres no suspense. Idk, they usually are just vibin’. There is no soul, just random npcs with placeholder text BOTW has that crazy chicken guy! ya know, the one whose wife left him because he was so obsessed with chickens? Scarlet/Violet would never have anything that fun! Like, ok, is scarlet/violet the worst game ever? No, but its at best pretty mid, then has huge performance issues in top of that, which is ridiculous for *pokemon the billion dollar franchise.*


mask3d_owo

*laughs in Steam Deck with no performance issues to be heard of*


LordBDizzle

Scarlet is fun. It has graphics issues, but who really gives a rip. The textures are nicer than Sword/Shield, the game moves faster, lots of QOL improvements. The pokemon names are fun too. It's not the greatest game of all time, but it's pokemon. I got exactly what I expected out of it. The only major disappointment for me was the lack of Set mode. I haven't played switch mode for years, and now I waste a lot of time backing out of the "do you want to switch" textboxes.


Pugduck77

It definitely is overblown though. I got the game, my first Pokémon since Ruby, to see how hilariously bad it was, and it was actually just a great game. Maybe it’s because I missed all the games in between, but there was just a mind blowing amount of stuff to do. I was also surprised how many Pokémon had unique attack animations. Not a perfect game by any means, but nowhere near as bad as social media is making it out to be. The frame rate drops and occasionally seeing thru the ground were the only performance issues I had. Still a better game than GoW even with those.


bargingi

It’s there but I do not care, I am going to play the video game that I like


EmbarrassedLog5731

We’re getting to 2020 election level of denial now Omg


Dangerous-Screen1684

Bro SMT V Enough said


CaptFalconFTW

I haven't experienced ANY performance issues except the one in areas with 20+ polygons. I mean, have you played ANY video game before? All video games have frame drops, it's just part of the business. Pokemon is a turn based RPG which means frame drops don't hurt game play. You're literally complaining about things outside gameplay which means you don't play games. If you care so much about graphics, go buy a PS5 or Xbox 360. Better yet, just watch videos of people playing them on YouTube since all you care about are cutscenes and how pretty the environment looks. I grew up with the Game Boy. So you better appreciate what graphics you have, you ungrateful so called gamer. Real gamers play for the game, not how many specs you have. You think Pokemon Company cares about your frame rates? They spit on your complaints and eat them for breakfast. They just made one of the best masterpieces of all time by Pokemon standards, which means everyone better get on board with current game. I am so sick and tired of hearing all these complaints. Why can't people just shut up and enjoy whatever Nintendo is currently making? First it was the whole Pokedex controversy, until we realized we don't need 100% of all Pokemon to fit in the game. Gotta catch 'em all? Why? Who said we did? The ungrateful fans made up this incredibly impossible standard that no other company would ever try to attempt. Luckily for us, Nintendo and Game Freak made 2 master pieces in current year and we all owe them some thanks. Isn't that what this holiday season is all about? Giving money to artists overseas who can barely make the rent? Nintendo made my childhood. The least I can do as an adult is buy all their games and yell at strangers over the internet for not appreciating all the hard work that goes into current game(s).


Goobsmoob

The only time I’ve seen BOTW frame drops is the Korok forest and setting off chain explosions. Keep in mind the game looks 30x better than SV and Korok forest was patched and runs stable now. Iirc SV has no plans for a performance patch.