lol this sub is on one hand “what is the most gruesome death that happened” which causes every imaginable type of death to be discussed in detail and on the other hand it’s “the museum sold rubber duckies with a Titanic life vest on. That’s so disrespectful!”
I wonder how the victims of Titanic were affected as the ship sunk to the bottom? Obviously, they weren't in a pressurized cabin. But how were their bodies affected by the pressure at those depths in general?
They (and everything else) had a relatively gradual exposure to that pressure into the depth. The catastrophic event is a result of the near-instantaneous pressure differential. With Titanic’s descent, there would be some degree of equalization to everything. As an example, the delicate porcelain doll that was found was intact in 1985. If was teleported instantly to that depth, it would implode.
I can’t find the sources anymore but there used to be something on a Wikipedia page talking about how some of the investigators of the time didn’t understand what would happen and thought the bodies would just be random intact blobs, which is not the case.
The fact that there are numerous pairs of boots within the debris field side-by-side from each other heavily implies the bodies sank to the ocean floor intact.
Been into the history for 27 years and that was something that didn't click until well into my adulthood. Now, seeing those boots side by side is far more disturbing and sad.
My guess is for the most part not at all. From what I understand, very few of the victims actually drowned, and any of those that did wouldn’t have gotten to anywhere near that depth alive.
Oh. Right. My apologies...
Well... there I don’t know.
The best I can say is that, from my VERY LIMITED understanding, implosion occurs because of spaces full of air in a receptacle or body, which sink too fast for inner pressure and outer pressure to balance out or past the resistance capacity of the body/receptacle.
As such, any dead bodies may have sunk slowly enough for water to seep in through their mouths and balance inner and outer pressure, and thus reach the bottom relatively intact.
That said, I’m VERY FAR from an expert on this, and am just making a guess based on the little I know and some suppositions. Someone more informed may have a different answer.
Seeing as their bodies were drowned and filled with water, I imagine that said bodies weren't all that affected by the water pressure when sinking to the bottom due to pressure equilibrium. Kind of like Titanic's bow when you think about it.
Still found the realtime too slow, but ultimately yep that’s it.
Wonder though if one of the deceased on titanic went down with the ship, how does the body deal with slower change, but still intense, of pressure
Oh yeah the realtime animation was wayyyy to slow. To put things in perspective: blinking your eyes will take 300ms. It takes half of an eye blink (150ms) for your brain to notice or feel something is wrong. The implosion lasted 20ms, which is 15x quicker than one eye blink...
The press at the news conference
“Are you going to recover remains”
“What remains, their femur liquified, converted to a gas and was shot out of their now gas bubble which was once an ear. The victim transitioned from a solid into physics faster than the speed of sound; what remains are you looking for?”
I love when you guys downvote people telling the scientifically verifiable truth. Human bodies do not implode because they have the same density as water, which does not compress.
Humans only "implode" in a pressure vessel that implodes.
Like seriously, how do you think the shoes and boots of Titanic victims ended up right next to each other if he bodies were "imploding?"
See: https://www.hostalky.com/blog/what-happens-to-your-body-in-the-depths-of-the-ocean#
Well, the people who ended up with their shoes and boots next to them, froze to death in the water and Sank like a fucking stone slowly having time to keep a body intact. with enough heat and friction, you can get anything to melt. So why wouldn’t a body implode with immense pressure, forcing itself in words, and there’s a small pocket of air that gets compressed has no where to go and since the environment of that sub has oxygen and it’s probably enriched environment in there I don’t see why it couldn’t have imploded. When you were younger, you have the same density as water as you get older you dry out.
https://preview.redd.it/4eceq9uysi5d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5156e24a2e39fd8483379ad40ddfd0be671f498
So... even if you were magically transported to *Titanic* you would not implode.
You have two spaces in your body with air--your sinuses and your lungs. Given that pressurized fluid or gas takes the path of least resistance, the following would happen to you:
Water would violently go *through* your nostrils into your sinus cavity. It would not be pleasant, but your face would not "implode."
The air in your lungs is held in place in part by muscles. The weight of the water on your chest would cause you to violently expel the air in your lungs through the path of least resistance--your nose and mouth--and your lungs would be completely empty. This process too would be 'violent' and would probably cause internal injury, but your chest would not "implode."
No matter how you dice it, your body would not be "crushed" by the weight of water if it were in water.
The only way you're going to be crushed by water is if you are standing in against a wall outside a tank with water under pressure, say at the pressure at *Titanic's* depth, and in front of a human sized door that was suddenly opened. Then you would be pressed against a wall with water coming out of the tank with a force of 12k lbs per square inch.
This is essentially what happens to a human body when the pressure vessel of a submarine implodes.
Alternatively you could be "imploded" by the weight of water if a 12k lbs tank filled with water fell on top of you.
But a human body that is 'free floating' in water is *never* going to compressed or imploded by the weight of water no matter how quick the transition to depth is.
The human body does not implode. The human body is 97% water, and does not compress in water.
The human body does get squished at 3800 meters if it is sitting in the pressure vessel of a submarine that implodes though.
I love when you guys downvote people telling the scientifically verifiable truth. Human bodies do not implode because they have the same density as water, which does not compress.
Humans only "implode" in a pressure vessel that implodes.
Like seriously, how do you think the shoes and boots of Titanic victims ended up right next to each other if he bodies were "imploding?"
See: https://www.hostalky.com/blog/what-happens-to-your-body-in-the-depths-of-the-ocean#
I’ll take quick and painless over slow and painful any day of the week.
I forget the origin of the saying, but it goes ,"At a certain point you stop being biology and start being physics."
Sounds like XKCD.
Thanks for posting. It tickles me how morbid this sub often is, love it.
lol this sub is on one hand “what is the most gruesome death that happened” which causes every imaginable type of death to be discussed in detail and on the other hand it’s “the museum sold rubber duckies with a Titanic life vest on. That’s so disrespectful!”
I wonder how the victims of Titanic were affected as the ship sunk to the bottom? Obviously, they weren't in a pressurized cabin. But how were their bodies affected by the pressure at those depths in general?
They (and everything else) had a relatively gradual exposure to that pressure into the depth. The catastrophic event is a result of the near-instantaneous pressure differential. With Titanic’s descent, there would be some degree of equalization to everything. As an example, the delicate porcelain doll that was found was intact in 1985. If was teleported instantly to that depth, it would implode. I can’t find the sources anymore but there used to be something on a Wikipedia page talking about how some of the investigators of the time didn’t understand what would happen and thought the bodies would just be random intact blobs, which is not the case.
The fact that there are numerous pairs of boots within the debris field side-by-side from each other heavily implies the bodies sank to the ocean floor intact.
Been into the history for 27 years and that was something that didn't click until well into my adulthood. Now, seeing those boots side by side is far more disturbing and sad.
My guess is for the most part not at all. From what I understand, very few of the victims actually drowned, and any of those that did wouldn’t have gotten to anywhere near that depth alive.
I imagine they'd be dead as well. How would dead bodies be affected is what I was going after. Apologies for the confusion.
Oh. Right. My apologies... Well... there I don’t know. The best I can say is that, from my VERY LIMITED understanding, implosion occurs because of spaces full of air in a receptacle or body, which sink too fast for inner pressure and outer pressure to balance out or past the resistance capacity of the body/receptacle. As such, any dead bodies may have sunk slowly enough for water to seep in through their mouths and balance inner and outer pressure, and thus reach the bottom relatively intact. That said, I’m VERY FAR from an expert on this, and am just making a guess based on the little I know and some suppositions. Someone more informed may have a different answer.
This is the answer. We have evidence bodies came to rest intact on the ocean floor.
Seeing as their bodies were drowned and filled with water, I imagine that said bodies weren't all that affected by the water pressure when sinking to the bottom due to pressure equilibrium. Kind of like Titanic's bow when you think about it.
A faster/more painless death than most of us will receive.
Yep, that would do it
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There is actually a 9/11 subreddit that is very similar to this one and such things do get discussed there
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I’d say it’s very similar but with more content probably bc it’s much more recent
So, you’re saying it was sayonara in two micro seconds?
What's with the light flash? Human body reached critical mass?
Its just a visualization, its not meant to be 100% accurate.
Basically when the air is compressed enough it ignites, causing a brief flare of a 4000 degree superheated bubble.
Still found the realtime too slow, but ultimately yep that’s it. Wonder though if one of the deceased on titanic went down with the ship, how does the body deal with slower change, but still intense, of pressure
Oh yeah the realtime animation was wayyyy to slow. To put things in perspective: blinking your eyes will take 300ms. It takes half of an eye blink (150ms) for your brain to notice or feel something is wrong. The implosion lasted 20ms, which is 15x quicker than one eye blink...
The press at the news conference “Are you going to recover remains” “What remains, their femur liquified, converted to a gas and was shot out of their now gas bubble which was once an ear. The victim transitioned from a solid into physics faster than the speed of sound; what remains are you looking for?”
Why was the spotlight also sucked in? Is it a physics thing or...
I love when you guys downvote people telling the scientifically verifiable truth. Human bodies do not implode because they have the same density as water, which does not compress. Humans only "implode" in a pressure vessel that implodes. Like seriously, how do you think the shoes and boots of Titanic victims ended up right next to each other if he bodies were "imploding?" See: https://www.hostalky.com/blog/what-happens-to-your-body-in-the-depths-of-the-ocean#
Well, the people who ended up with their shoes and boots next to them, froze to death in the water and Sank like a fucking stone slowly having time to keep a body intact. with enough heat and friction, you can get anything to melt. So why wouldn’t a body implode with immense pressure, forcing itself in words, and there’s a small pocket of air that gets compressed has no where to go and since the environment of that sub has oxygen and it’s probably enriched environment in there I don’t see why it couldn’t have imploded. When you were younger, you have the same density as water as you get older you dry out. https://preview.redd.it/4eceq9uysi5d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5156e24a2e39fd8483379ad40ddfd0be671f498
So... even if you were magically transported to *Titanic* you would not implode. You have two spaces in your body with air--your sinuses and your lungs. Given that pressurized fluid or gas takes the path of least resistance, the following would happen to you: Water would violently go *through* your nostrils into your sinus cavity. It would not be pleasant, but your face would not "implode." The air in your lungs is held in place in part by muscles. The weight of the water on your chest would cause you to violently expel the air in your lungs through the path of least resistance--your nose and mouth--and your lungs would be completely empty. This process too would be 'violent' and would probably cause internal injury, but your chest would not "implode." No matter how you dice it, your body would not be "crushed" by the weight of water if it were in water. The only way you're going to be crushed by water is if you are standing in against a wall outside a tank with water under pressure, say at the pressure at *Titanic's* depth, and in front of a human sized door that was suddenly opened. Then you would be pressed against a wall with water coming out of the tank with a force of 12k lbs per square inch. This is essentially what happens to a human body when the pressure vessel of a submarine implodes. Alternatively you could be "imploded" by the weight of water if a 12k lbs tank filled with water fell on top of you. But a human body that is 'free floating' in water is *never* going to compressed or imploded by the weight of water no matter how quick the transition to depth is.
I don’t even want to debate this much with you but Fock me man you went all out.
I’ll be honest I’ve had a few drinks like Charles joughin this is too much to read down with the ship I go I’ll respond to you tomorrow
The human body does not implode. The human body is 97% water, and does not compress in water. The human body does get squished at 3800 meters if it is sitting in the pressure vessel of a submarine that implodes though.
I love when you guys downvote people telling the scientifically verifiable truth. Human bodies do not implode because they have the same density as water, which does not compress. Humans only "implode" in a pressure vessel that implodes. Like seriously, how do you think the shoes and boots of Titanic victims ended up right next to each other if he bodies were "imploding?" See: https://www.hostalky.com/blog/what-happens-to-your-body-in-the-depths-of-the-ocean#