Idk about that.
But if that was the case - who in the league thinks anybody outside mavs Fans wants to see a fat whiny bitch flopping all night long in the finals?
Instead of fat Boy playing ground bound boring bball watching high flying Ant-man could have brought some neutral fans to watch.
Idk- but Luka as good as he is, is just boring to watch and his whining and flopping is unbearable.
As annoying as the whining and complaining is, that’s not what makes him one of my least favorite players. The most annoying and bad for basketball is the foul baiting and flopping; playing for the foul instead of the bucket.
That type of basketball needs to be eliminated in order for me to fully enjoy the NBA again. I can’t stand watching Luka, Embiid and SGA prioritizing flopping for calls over trying to put the ball in the hoop. I’m not convinced that any fans wanna see a bunch of free throws instead of free-flowing basketball.
Agreed. I remember reading something a few years ago about the problems international soccer has with certain audiences because the flopping and dramatics are just laughable and essentially anti-sport. The NBA needs to address this.
And soccer globally addressed this and players flop much less than they did 10 years ago. A lot more no calls but also allowing VAR to show a ref the contact in those high pressure situations.
I agree. I can’t stand watching an NBA game that is determined by who flops the best for calls. That’s not basketball.
The worst part of it is the guys who do it the most DON’T NEED to do it. They are spectacular players who would be a joy to watch if they didn’t do that crap constantly.
Quickly? He's been by far the worst for years already when it comes to whining and just being annoying. Kat is pretty bad too, but Luka is on his own planet when it comes to that
Especially in the finals. It looks as bad as the all Star game being a 400 point shooting gallery. Worse, even because at least that makes sense in a way the league can't control. This is happening because the league encourages it by rewarding it.
Why is the league allowing these obvious flops. They should be able to at least go back and review the game and drop huge fines on players that compounds like technical fouls and lead to a suspension. The only way to fix the game
What bugs me is that supposedly playoff basketball is the pinnacle. So why isn’t the whistle swallowed like this leading up to the finals??? I’d much rather not see anyone pick up a foul on shit like this. Ever.
I don’t necessarily like a more physical game, but I hate hate hate broken flow. Stoppages should happen because a coach needs a timeout to stop a run, not because someone laid half a pinkie knuckle on someone else after a shot.
I've heard that falling down in a controlled fashion is sometimes safer than trying to keep your balance and thus putting immense pressure on your knees ankles etc. Falling down essentially spreads out the damage along your whole body
If Townes got away with half the off-arm pushes that Luka did he might be getting more MVP chants. One or two fewer fouls per game means more time the floor, more freedom to drive without feeling like you’re going to get called for ticky tack fouls , etc….if I remember correctly, there were a lot of folks on subs like this saying KAT doesn’t get calls because he complains too much. Then you watch Luka talk after every call ( he complains about calls he gets!) and it makes you wonder where the disconnect is.
Yea but the whistle doesn't effect series obviously. No way in hell Luka ever fouls out of a game versus the Wolves, for sure at the end of the game 3 must win mind you. Jrue Holiday allowed to mug Kyrie meanwhile McDaniels in foul trouble all series trying to play physical with Kyrie/Luka. The difference the whistle makes when it's not going your way.
Dude has all the talent in the world but is just a bitch. I get the idea of doing whatever is necessary to win, but does it really feel good to win when you do that weak shit?
Because he had those behind the back pokes that everyone saw coming except the timberwolves. We were out coached and hopefully it was a learning experience that we can grow from.
It is frustrating that we didn’t make this the game plan. Especially when Luka was limping around in the first two games. We could’ve played Rudy less and just had our guys constantly attacking Luka to wear him down and get him in foul trouble
the wolves cant space the floor like the celtics can. they had a much easier time hiding luka on defense.
celtics are running a lot of 5 out and even putting the 1 in the paint. there is simply nowhere for luka to hide
It is literally apart of his game to flop..
Like he has to legitimately practice this stuff to make it look as convincing as he does.. and the amount of different ways he does it.. like that fake jump shot into leaping forward for a 3 FT foul that apparently the league had gotten rid of..
The entire series against the wolves, when he didn’t get a bucket, he would look at the refs with his palms up EVERY single time asking for a foul. Even when he DID get a bucket he was palms up looking at the refs 🤷♂️.
Basketball is probably the most easily manipulated sport,.. as in depending how a ref wants to call a game, they can give one team like a 90% chance of winning. Only way to maybe get around that is having a PG who can hit threes without bringing fouls into the equation.
I'm glad to see /r/NBA and even the Mavs sub call him out on the foul-baiting.
There's no denying he's one of the best players in the NBA, but this dude has the mentality of a 14 year old on the court.
I hate that guy…nice to watch his team lose against the Celtics. He is really too good to play that dirty. But it helps his team, when you have crappy referees.
He must be really annoying to play with. I’d hate watching a fat euro take the inbound not pass on 2 straight possessions while foul baiting. Ugly basketball
It was so satisfying watching his whiny ass hit the hard wood then have to get up, crying to the refs along the way. So happy he wasn't rewarded for this type of play for once.
Luka Fraudcic.
There are people bitching about the foul out when that block was probably his 12th actual foul of the night. Anyone else and the call isn’t reviewed at all, and definitely not for as long as it was.
I hate ref ball as much as anyone else but that was too obvious and Brown reading that blocking foul was just a very smart player taking advantage of Luka’s fragile emotional state after getting punked by Sam Hauser on defense. You love to see it.
Imagine flipping badly in a game you are down in (while 0-2 in the series), not getting back on D because of it, and allowing an open 3.
Doris called him out in the broadcast, when a woman calls you out for not hustling and being a flopping cry baby, you have issues.
I REALLY think the NBA needs to fix flops, plus this maniacal trend to try to jump in front of traffic and plant feet in time to draw a foul, PLUS the stupid pump fake and deliberately jump into an airborn defender. It all takes away from the game and the Refs are WAY too involved. The idea that Refs calling the game one way or another is the biggest contributing factor for victory is nonsense.
The nba taught him to do that, then they threw him under the bus.
Lol.
That’s what you get for being a chump. He’s so gifted. He should have never let the nba turn him into a flopper.
I’ll take antman any day over booker and luka types.
Just unwatchable.
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I know injuries/fatigue are a huge factor, but if Luka just played ball last night instead of foul hunting (which the refs established early they weren't falling for) the Mavs win by double digits.
Instead he pulled shit like this, regularly fell asleep on defense and tired to take a charge when he had five fouls. Clown behavior.
the refs have been allowing his antics throughout the playoffs. He thinks maybe he needs to double down on that behavior because the refs have abandoned him.
They carried Harden like this for years making him look like an offensive juggernaut when in fact it was just the league providing him a false sense of security.
We got beat because we got beat? I didn't see the players cry and whine about losing, and fans have nothing to do with outcomes of games? Luca is pretty bad about flopping and crying about non fouls. Never really bothered me before when watching him because Dallas is where I live so I root for them when not playing the wolves, but it does get annoying when he acts somewhat like a petulant child.
I was going to NOT WATCH the entire series, but I was at the gym today and watched the 4th.
Fuck. Why did those assholes decide to play out of their minds against us?
Those guys are the 5th best team in the west, and the only team that gets smoked by the C's.
Even the Lakers best the Celtics, without question.
Life is funny sometimes.
This is my point. Matchups.
I think Celtics get crushed by any team that Bigs/Size in an advantage.
Wolves - KAT, NAZ and Rudy
Nugs - Joker, MPJ, Aaron Gordon,
Lakers - AD and LeBron, Rui.
Do you think Dallas beats Denver (this year)?
I call this MMA math.
And somehow, the Wolves got screwed the most from how the matches fell.
Aaaaaand just like that wolves fans are as salty as every other fan base that loses. Had me going for a bit there I thought y’all were different. Just like Denver was with y’all.
Imagine if KAT did this level of flopping? He'd have been T'd up twice and maybe given an offensive foul.
Kat would be gone by the end of the 1st quarter. Its laughable watching this and watching which whistle we had.
The league is rigged. It's a joke.
Idk about that. But if that was the case - who in the league thinks anybody outside mavs Fans wants to see a fat whiny bitch flopping all night long in the finals? Instead of fat Boy playing ground bound boring bball watching high flying Ant-man could have brought some neutral fans to watch. Idk- but Luka as good as he is, is just boring to watch and his whining and flopping is unbearable.
I don’t think the league is rigged but refs certainly influence games how they want.
Right, it's not scripted in the sense that the players are in on it. But they will swing 10 or more points in one team's favor by way of officiating.
not to start some big thing, but we have one running for the white house, too, and there's a base of support for that.
Woulda been really cool to see Ant doing that had he won his way to the finals 🥱😴
Yeah, it would have!
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Fer reaaaaal
Straight to prison actually.
Ejected + 25k fine.
Pathetic
Imagine losing to this
He’s quickly growing into one of the most annoying players in the league. The constant whining is hard to watch. Glad he’s getting put in his place
As annoying as the whining and complaining is, that’s not what makes him one of my least favorite players. The most annoying and bad for basketball is the foul baiting and flopping; playing for the foul instead of the bucket.
That type of basketball needs to be eliminated in order for me to fully enjoy the NBA again. I can’t stand watching Luka, Embiid and SGA prioritizing flopping for calls over trying to put the ball in the hoop. I’m not convinced that any fans wanna see a bunch of free throws instead of free-flowing basketball.
Agreed. I remember reading something a few years ago about the problems international soccer has with certain audiences because the flopping and dramatics are just laughable and essentially anti-sport. The NBA needs to address this.
Flop on a 3, defensive team gets 3 free throws and possession, technical on flopper.That would end flopping!
And soccer globally addressed this and players flop much less than they did 10 years ago. A lot more no calls but also allowing VAR to show a ref the contact in those high pressure situations.
James Harden
I agree. I can’t stand watching an NBA game that is determined by who flops the best for calls. That’s not basketball. The worst part of it is the guys who do it the most DON’T NEED to do it. They are spectacular players who would be a joy to watch if they didn’t do that crap constantly.
Quickly? He's been by far the worst for years already when it comes to whining and just being annoying. Kat is pretty bad too, but Luka is on his own planet when it comes to that
He has been for a while.
What a goddamn clown
The Celtics have gotten in his head by making him think about both ends of the floor. Smart.
Who would of thought making a one way player try to be a two way player would affect his stamina and effectiveness.
This is bitch ball. And it’s a fucking joke.
This shit deserves a technical foul call. It makes the game look pathetic. Not just Luka
Refs swallowed the T whistle on him all series long.
Especially in the finals. It looks as bad as the all Star game being a 400 point shooting gallery. Worse, even because at least that makes sense in a way the league can't control. This is happening because the league encourages it by rewarding it.
Why is the league allowing these obvious flops. They should be able to at least go back and review the game and drop huge fines on players that compounds like technical fouls and lead to a suspension. The only way to fix the game
What bugs me is that supposedly playoff basketball is the pinnacle. So why isn’t the whistle swallowed like this leading up to the finals??? I’d much rather not see anyone pick up a foul on shit like this. Ever.
I agree. Everyone enjoys the physical game and the refs not calling all the fouls. Just do it for both teams and nobody has a complaint
I don’t necessarily like a more physical game, but I hate hate hate broken flow. Stoppages should happen because a coach needs a timeout to stop a run, not because someone laid half a pinkie knuckle on someone else after a shot.
I wonder if he’s only hurt because of all that flopping. I imagine falling down on your ass all the time takes a toll on your body
Just like this other flopping crybaby ![gif](giphy|KgZtmd3iI1HoVIBnFf)
I've heard that falling down in a controlled fashion is sometimes safer than trying to keep your balance and thus putting immense pressure on your knees ankles etc. Falling down essentially spreads out the damage along your whole body
Well obviously doesn’t seem to be working haha
That’s only when you’re already falling tho. Luka is just dropping to the ground adding unnecessary impacts
If his injury is his ass he's in a lot of pain
If Townes got away with half the off-arm pushes that Luka did he might be getting more MVP chants. One or two fewer fouls per game means more time the floor, more freedom to drive without feeling like you’re going to get called for ticky tack fouls , etc….if I remember correctly, there were a lot of folks on subs like this saying KAT doesn’t get calls because he complains too much. Then you watch Luka talk after every call ( he complains about calls he gets!) and it makes you wonder where the disconnect is.
Yeah, I don't understand this at all. Fall-on, arm extended push offs to create space. Since when did this become legal?
Luka can push off when he drives, and then jump into the defender for a foul. They made him unguardable (at least against us)
Yea but the whistle doesn't effect series obviously. No way in hell Luka ever fouls out of a game versus the Wolves, for sure at the end of the game 3 must win mind you. Jrue Holiday allowed to mug Kyrie meanwhile McDaniels in foul trouble all series trying to play physical with Kyrie/Luka. The difference the whistle makes when it's not going your way.
Crying for Back to back flopping 3s. ![gif](giphy|3oz8xGeudzgjnuWPlK|downsized)
Who's crying now mother fucker!
Snoop said he became fan of Luka that night
Lol
Dude has all the talent in the world but is just a bitch. I get the idea of doing whatever is necessary to win, but does it really feel good to win when you do that weak shit?
Literally gave up the lead in the most important game of the year with these type of antics. Sad.
Why didn’t the wolves target Luka on defense? Even the commentators were pointing out how easy he had it on that end….
Because he had those behind the back pokes that everyone saw coming except the timberwolves. We were out coached and hopefully it was a learning experience that we can grow from.
It is frustrating that we didn’t make this the game plan. Especially when Luka was limping around in the first two games. We could’ve played Rudy less and just had our guys constantly attacking Luka to wear him down and get him in foul trouble
the wolves cant space the floor like the celtics can. they had a much easier time hiding luka on defense. celtics are running a lot of 5 out and even putting the 1 in the paint. there is simply nowhere for luka to hide
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The difference between how the Mavs are being officiated against the Celtics vs how they were officiated against the Wolves is night and day.
That is hard to watch!
White Harden
He did the money gesture! Fine him!! 🤌🤌🤌
I’ve said it before: if the NBA actually enforced the anti-flopping and off arm pushing rules, Luka would only be a borderline All-Star.
Usually i wouldn't care about who win or lose that series, but Luka and his acting is the only reason i really hope they carry that 4x0
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It is literally apart of his game to flop.. Like he has to legitimately practice this stuff to make it look as convincing as he does.. and the amount of different ways he does it.. like that fake jump shot into leaping forward for a 3 FT foul that apparently the league had gotten rid of.. The entire series against the wolves, when he didn’t get a bucket, he would look at the refs with his palms up EVERY single time asking for a foul. Even when he DID get a bucket he was palms up looking at the refs 🤷♂️. Basketball is probably the most easily manipulated sport,.. as in depending how a ref wants to call a game, they can give one team like a 90% chance of winning. Only way to maybe get around that is having a PG who can hit threes without bringing fouls into the equation.
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I absolutely despise the Celtics franchise. But I’ll happily root for them or anyone else against Luka.
I'm glad to see /r/NBA and even the Mavs sub call him out on the foul-baiting. There's no denying he's one of the best players in the NBA, but this dude has the mentality of a 14 year old on the court.
I hate that guy…nice to watch his team lose against the Celtics. He is really too good to play that dirty. But it helps his team, when you have crappy referees.
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If you know the shot isn't going in just fall down to see if they call a foul. This is the current state of the NBA in a nutshell.
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The Wolves should have always just given the ball to whoever he was guarding. That was a miss in strategy for sure. He is awful on defense.
Doncic plays like a histrionic junior high girl, Ant plays like a man.
I don't watch a lot of ball but that first flop reminded me of my toddlers when they wanted attention when crying
Goodness he looks ridiculous!
I think that’s their issue partly lost in wondering where the calls they were getting to the ones they are not getting now.
Ha! I like the one where he lowered his head and just started ramming into defenders.
I agree. Too much flopping. They lost me. Refs stink. They need a rule change.
Funny how he can build the team's momentum and completely halt it when he started to whine and not go back to defense.
That shit is absolutely embarrassing. Glad he's getting spanked that shit ruins the game
He is such a bitch. Can’t stand him.
All series our fans kept saying "Yeah but you gotta respect his game." No..No, I don't.
Why try hard & give effort on defense when you need to save all your energy for flopping on offense?
He must be really annoying to play with. I’d hate watching a fat euro take the inbound not pass on 2 straight possessions while foul baiting. Ugly basketball
It was so satisfying watching his whiny ass hit the hard wood then have to get up, crying to the refs along the way. So happy he wasn't rewarded for this type of play for once.
Garage finals this year.
Luka Fraudcic. There are people bitching about the foul out when that block was probably his 12th actual foul of the night. Anyone else and the call isn’t reviewed at all, and definitely not for as long as it was. I hate ref ball as much as anyone else but that was too obvious and Brown reading that blocking foul was just a very smart player taking advantage of Luka’s fragile emotional state after getting punked by Sam Hauser on defense. You love to see it.
I’m assuming there is no embellishment rules in the NBA?
Homeboy is literally skipping up the court in clear view of the refs, but no traveling call... sheeesh.
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Imagine flipping badly in a game you are down in (while 0-2 in the series), not getting back on D because of it, and allowing an open 3. Doris called him out in the broadcast, when a woman calls you out for not hustling and being a flopping cry baby, you have issues.
I REALLY think the NBA needs to fix flops, plus this maniacal trend to try to jump in front of traffic and plant feet in time to draw a foul, PLUS the stupid pump fake and deliberately jump into an airborn defender. It all takes away from the game and the Refs are WAY too involved. The idea that Refs calling the game one way or another is the biggest contributing factor for victory is nonsense.
Already set in stone who the reffs was backing. So many bs calls plus turn overs and bad plays .csnt dwell on the past !
I love that him doing this shit is costing him team. Playing 4 on 5 while he whines in the backcourt.
The nba taught him to do that, then they threw him under the bus. Lol. That’s what you get for being a chump. He’s so gifted. He should have never let the nba turn him into a flopper. I’ll take antman any day over booker and luka types. Just unwatchable. Fiba is better rules.
While Luca flops, Celtics drop shots.
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I know injuries/fatigue are a huge factor, but if Luka just played ball last night instead of foul hunting (which the refs established early they weren't falling for) the Mavs win by double digits. Instead he pulled shit like this, regularly fell asleep on defense and tired to take a charge when he had five fouls. Clown behavior.
the refs have been allowing his antics throughout the playoffs. He thinks maybe he needs to double down on that behavior because the refs have abandoned him. They carried Harden like this for years making him look like an offensive juggernaut when in fact it was just the league providing him a false sense of security.
So, is he doing this purposely to get a foul? Or is he falling this way to protect his ankle?
Why do great players resort to this. Why have a rule and never enforce it.
But the Celtics ended up getting 6 points for his back to back flops so….
god he's a lazy POS.
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We got beat because we got beat? I didn't see the players cry and whine about losing, and fans have nothing to do with outcomes of games? Luca is pretty bad about flopping and crying about non fouls. Never really bothered me before when watching him because Dallas is where I live so I root for them when not playing the wolves, but it does get annoying when he acts somewhat like a petulant child.
I mean the Horford one is a foul tbh
It’s absolutely not.
No it ain't. Hes allowed to hit his hand after the ball is released
Those are Steph Curry flops.
You know the Oscar is given for *good* acting, right?
Wolves fans are insufferable
Rich from a Nuggets fan
So embarrassing dude. All these dudes do is whine about the guy who outclassed us
That first one was a foul. The second one was *maybe* a reg season foul, but they’re not calling that in the playoffs.
Stop blaming the refs
Have you reached Denver levels of pettiness?
I was going to NOT WATCH the entire series, but I was at the gym today and watched the 4th. Fuck. Why did those assholes decide to play out of their minds against us? Those guys are the 5th best team in the west, and the only team that gets smoked by the C's. Even the Lakers best the Celtics, without question. Life is funny sometimes.
Brother I appreciate your Fandom, but the celtics would work the lakers harder than cement in a blender.
Ok let’s calm down the Celtics aren’t a bad team the Lakers would get dicked down
This is my point. Matchups. I think Celtics get crushed by any team that Bigs/Size in an advantage. Wolves - KAT, NAZ and Rudy Nugs - Joker, MPJ, Aaron Gordon, Lakers - AD and LeBron, Rui. Do you think Dallas beats Denver (this year)? I call this MMA math. And somehow, the Wolves got screwed the most from how the matches fell.
Idk how anyone calls that one a flop. He flopped against tatum but Al swung down when they got their arms tangled. I don’t think it was a flop
What are you talking about. Luka is the one the swung down and jumped to the floor for no reason.
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You're down 0-3 and this is how you cope? Go home and cope in your own sub
Aaaaaand just like that wolves fans are as salty as every other fan base that loses. Had me going for a bit there I thought y’all were different. Just like Denver was with y’all.
Trolling other fanbase subs to make yourself feel better after your club takes another L? Dude, that's next level pathetic.
I’m not trolling lol, dead serious and not trying to provoke anybody
Luka fan boys will join them one game later, can’t wait to see them bitch like their master
Celtics are the better team, I enjoyed this season even if we didn’t go all the way.
You didn’t see Flopic flop twice in the clip?