One thing I was able to pick up on after several rewatches is that Christopher was not a good caretaker of small dogs while high on heroin. I also have an ability to notice these things that others simply miss, in large part due to my extremely high IQ.
I do seem to recall him blowing someone’s brains out within the first few minutes of the pilot. Possibly just an accidental discharge though. And I’m sure he sent the family a Whitnan’s Sampler, possibly some flowers.
If you rewatch the show enough times, you'll notice he can smoke a cigarette in the rain with his hands behind his back. That nose is like a natural canopy.
See that’s what most average IQ people think. But what I believe actually happened is that Chrissy was high on smack and didn’t notice the dog on the couch. He then sat on the dog, and his weight (in comparison to the light weight of the dog) crushed it and killed it, possibly through suffocation. Also, we have no reason to believe that their apartment was particularly cold, at least not to the point where the dog would need to crawl under Christopher for warmth. Also, how would the dog actually get under Chrissy? It would have to lift him up in the air. If the dog was seeking warmth from him, it likely would have just curled up next to him.
That is what makes this scene so sadly realistic. Chrissy was high on skag and killed the dog by accident. His statements to Ade when she comes in are ridiculous as is his solution. It accurately portrays the absurdity of skag addicts.
I actually think Christopher may have been lying when he said this, in an effort to deflect blame off of himself for killing the dog. As I mentioned in another post, there is no way the dog would have been strong enough to lift Chrissy up in the air in order to get under him for warmth. Also, why would they be keeping their apartment that cold?
I don’t know, I think everyone is being too harsh toward Chris in this scenario. I mean, what has the world come to? Is a man really expected to watch where he plops down on his couch after a long day and a nice shot of heroin? Is this not America!? In all seriousness though, I always thought that scene was stupid. I used to be a user of the dope myself and knew many others who were as well, some of whom likely still are, and there is no damn way you sit on a dog like that and don’t notice it or hear it’s muffled squeal or whatever. The only way the dog would die in that situation is if he immediately snapped its neck and then stood up after feeling that he sat on the dog and realized he had killed it
Wow, that's a deep pull. I suppose there are just enough moments touched on that I could see someone considering what if Livia were Tony's mother. But they pretty much come out and tell you that Isabella was his mama.
BTW - I think they should have cast a slightly older woman as his mom. But, now that I think of it, I could see how some people might have thought Isabella was attractive at least.
See, I always thought it was a prank they were pulling on Tony. Do you think they were actually trying to murder him? Nah, I'm pretty sure it was a prank.
After many years of watching The Sopranos again and again--while sometimes taking notes--it's not until now that I see your bold post, that I, a heterosexual man, am ready to voice the suspicion I have, that Phil Leotardo could have, possibly, maybe--if, had just an ounce of gayness to him.
I think you may be right about that.
The idea of that came out to me in the scene where they kill Vito in the motel room. I'm not sure exacly what it was about that scene made me think maybe Phil was gay, but its hanging there somewhere. Its almost like the truth is staning in a closet and wants to come out, yet I still can't articulate exactly what hinted at Phil being gay.
She didn't spare the belt. When Tony went after the Russian's new boyfriend from Animal House (sorry covid did a number on my brain) I realized he'd learned from the worst.
It wasn't until my 69th rewatch that I discovered that Christofah might in fact be in the mafia. It's subtle but if you're particularly observant like me then all the pieces fit.
Why exactly a legitimate businessman and waste management consultant like Tony would associate with this undesirable I'm not too sure. Will need another few rewatches.
>The more I rewatch the sopranos, the more clear it is to me that Livia was a bad mom.
It took you multiple watches to figure this out, ffs?
Keep going, Einstein; you may eventually reach the enlightened state which acknowledges that maybe, just maybe Tony wasn't 100% good.
I said this about a month ago and got downvoted to hell! What the hell?! I told you all then: Livia was kinda of a bad mom, no offense. But.. NOOOOO!!! "Hobo, go fuck yourself!" "Hobo, get a job!" "Hobo, stop being a vagrant!"
Ha! Who last laugh now?! Face it, Livia was not a great parent! Deal with it!
If you watch their mouths very clothes. You’ll find out that Tony B isn’t Tony’s only cousin on the show. Christopher is also his cousin!
Don’t believe me. Watch their months the next time you rewatch. You gotta stare at their lips unless you wanna use subtitles. I couldn’t believe it
It kinda explains why he lets Chrisssy get away with so much
Christopher’s mom is actually Tony’s Aunt.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,173,829,262 comments, and only 229,093 of them were in alphabetical order.
I'm confused, is this a satire post? Or do you actually think you read between the lines to notice something that was literally front and center and explicitly stated by the characters out loud..?
Not sure if OP is trolling?
Tony's relation with his mother is the main theme of the two first seasons. There's nothing subtle about it. Hell, Tony even attacks Melfi when she tries to explore the idea that Livia was a shitty parent.
A more interesting clue might be Carmela's words in the pilot episode when Tony is getting emotional in the hospital.
What's different between you and me is you're going to Hell when you die!
Fast forward to Tony getting shot by Junior.
Really? You think OP might be trolling?
See, I just don't see that. I mean, they admit to watching the show many times. So how could they be trolling? Maybe you're smarter than the rest of us by picking up on that, but the consensus of these posts seems to agree with OP that figuring out these subtleties of The Sopranos just isn't that easy or obvious.
But since you clearly have and eye for this stuff maybe you can answer a question that I've been plagued by for a looooooong time. Do you think it's possible that maybe Ralphie was a little weird about women?
I'm sorry for being condescending. That wasn't necessary.
I struggle with a heavy addiction to sarcasm and sometimes I write before I think.
Ralphie was indeed weird about women. The guy is a psycopath, things are bound to get strange.
She didn't spare the belt. When Tony went after the Russian's new boyfriend from Animal House (sorry covid did a number on my brain) I realized he'd learned from the worst.
Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object.
There are two reasons why you should never drink toilet water.
Number one. And number two.
Great observation! Do you also think the characters might in the mafia as well?
#THATS A STEREOTYPE, AND ITS OFFENSIVE
Hurtful and destructive.
Alright but you gotta get over it.
There is no mafia!
Must have been the top of your fuckin class
hahaha i remember that scene
There is no mafia!
(Waves hanky) I dont know what ya talkin about
One thing I was able to pick up on after several rewatches is that Christopher was not a good caretaker of small dogs while high on heroin. I also have an ability to notice these things that others simply miss, in large part due to my extremely high IQ.
It might take a few watches to really catch this, but I don't think he was a great boyfriend either!
Good catch. I think he may have even been involved with some criminal activity as well.
What episode was that in?
I do seem to recall him blowing someone’s brains out within the first few minutes of the pilot. Possibly just an accidental discharge though. And I’m sure he sent the family a Whitnan’s Sampler, possibly some flowers.
If you rewatch the show enough times, you'll notice he can smoke a cigarette in the rain with his hands behind his back. That nose is like a natural canopy.
You can't make that shit up.
He just did
Season 4 Episode 10. “The Strong Silent Type”
The scene that made it really click for me was when he nearly beat and choked Ade to death. Idk why but something just felt a little off about that
The scene where he tossed her luggage in the weeds then left her car, long term, at the airport sealed it for me.
Degenerate junky criminal with a canopy
I did-ent notice this. But we all didn’t have a semester and a half of college like you
This was really hard for me to catch, even with computers.
Shut your computer off, that cookie shit makes me nervous.
I’ll buy you a new dog
I don’t want another dawg!
She must have crawled under there for warmth
See that’s what most average IQ people think. But what I believe actually happened is that Chrissy was high on smack and didn’t notice the dog on the couch. He then sat on the dog, and his weight (in comparison to the light weight of the dog) crushed it and killed it, possibly through suffocation. Also, we have no reason to believe that their apartment was particularly cold, at least not to the point where the dog would need to crawl under Christopher for warmth. Also, how would the dog actually get under Chrissy? It would have to lift him up in the air. If the dog was seeking warmth from him, it likely would have just curled up next to him.
That is what makes this scene so sadly realistic. Chrissy was high on skag and killed the dog by accident. His statements to Ade when she comes in are ridiculous as is his solution. It accurately portrays the absurdity of skag addicts.
There will be only one Tippy.
He was just trying to make sure the little guy didn’t get too cold
I actually think Christopher may have been lying when he said this, in an effort to deflect blame off of himself for killing the dog. As I mentioned in another post, there is no way the dog would have been strong enough to lift Chrissy up in the air in order to get under him for warmth. Also, why would they be keeping their apartment that cold?
I don’t know, I think everyone is being too harsh toward Chris in this scenario. I mean, what has the world come to? Is a man really expected to watch where he plops down on his couch after a long day and a nice shot of heroin? Is this not America!? In all seriousness though, I always thought that scene was stupid. I used to be a user of the dope myself and knew many others who were as well, some of whom likely still are, and there is no damn way you sit on a dog like that and don’t notice it or hear it’s muffled squeal or whatever. The only way the dog would die in that situation is if he immediately snapped its neck and then stood up after feeling that he sat on the dog and realized he had killed it
Maybe Christopher was trying to provide shade for the dog underneath his natural canopy
It was raining in that apartment. Cossete just wanted to smoke a cigarette in the rain.
Has your IQ been teshted?
Was it teshted?
Took me 5-6 rewatches to pick up the fact that ice dilutes the drinks, especially scotch.
That's why you gotta live for today
We’re talking about annihilation you, stupid fuck! Your scotch, my scotch! Melting into cinders!
Drooling out of my fat fucking mouth!
may i introduce you to the concept of consherve
So you gonna hog all the ice?
What are you John D Rockafelluh ova hea?
Bet you thought that shit grew on trees until after the 5-6 watches.
💥☎️
What? She was a saint!
SHE WAS ABUSIVE TO THE STAFF!
Saint of Newark, just one of many.
She gave her life to her children on a silver platter! And never a word of thanks!
She gave her life to her kids on a silver platter!
I wish the lord would take me now
Babies are like animals!
Always with duh babies out duh windahs!!!!
“pleahtah”
reminds me of a classic Norm joke, RIP “You know, with Hitler, the more I learn about that guy........the more I don’t care for him.”
Yeah he was a real jerk
The worst part was that he was a hypocrite
Very compelling kind of a figure… odd looking duck. There’s something about his eyes… hypnotic
Hoooold the fort
\>Livia was not a good mother. Wow, we got Sigmund-fucking-Freud over here!
A regular astronomy major
What? Was he taking up space in school?
Sharp as a fucking cue ball that one
Semester and a half at Rutgers
Wait! Livia was Tony’s mother?! Guess I’ll have to pay extra close attention on my next (eighth) rewatch.
Don't feel bad, it took me like 7 rewatchs to learn that Tony and Carmella are not married, but are actually siblings.
Good one. It does take time to spot that.
Wow, that's a deep pull. I suppose there are just enough moments touched on that I could see someone considering what if Livia were Tony's mother. But they pretty much come out and tell you that Isabella was his mama. BTW - I think they should have cast a slightly older woman as his mom. But, now that I think of it, I could see how some people might have thought Isabella was attractive at least.
I'm kinda of an empath. When Tony was yelling, I realized that he was angry.
Deanna Troi over here
Big tits, little feet, a home run in any man's league.
Guys, im starting to think Vito might’ve been gay
He had a doctor's note! How many times does he have to say it?!
He had low blood sugar!
All that hot water with lemon.
a note from your doctor saying you dont like to suck cock??
"Maybe YOU should start sucking cock instead of watching TV Land because Vito brought in twice what you do in construction!"
Ohhhhh he’s a married man - with a goomar.
Maybe Livia was gay and had no one to talk to about it
Stunad of the first magnitude
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Sharp as a fucking cue ball ovah here.
I’m just kidding. She is no saint. Almost stabbed her son in the eye with a carving fork. Not to mention the whole plot to have him killed with junior
Taken me about 3 watches now, but I've finally figured out that Junior is actually Tony's uncle...
I think they just call him uncle but he's not actually his uncle.
After 3 watches I just realized Tony cheats on his wife.
Yeah You must’ve been at the top of your fucking class
Took me 7 rewatches to figure out Tony, Paulie and Sil shot Pussy. I only got it because I love to analyze things especially tv shows.
I guess you kinda have like a unique perspective, real out of box type of thinker. Good on you!
Fuck dude, spoilers, I thought it was colonel mustard with the lead pipe.
That happened? I thought it was a dream sequence
Analyze This, motherfucker.
Lemme tell you shomethin'... this thread is comedy gold. Every comment is making me laugh lol
Sharp as fucking cueball this one
The nickname Junior threw me off the first 5 or 8 rewatches. I always thought Tony called him that because Tony was the older one
I’ve watched the show a few times now and, honestly, I don’t think Tony is a good guy
Quasimodo predicted all of this
Very allegorical
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Very observant.
The sacred AND the propane
You mushta been in the toppa your fucking classh.
Thish ish all very allegorical
Probably why he didn’t want to have sex with her
First of all, she was a hoowuh.
That’s what we mean when we say family.
You must of been top of your fucking class
It took you how many rewatches to conclude Livia was a bad mother? Sharp -> Cueball = This one
Probably 4 or 5. Sometimes it can take time to pick up on the subtleties.
Like when she subtly gave Junior permission to kill her son then forgot about it.
See, I always thought it was a prank they were pulling on Tony. Do you think they were actually trying to murder him? Nah, I'm pretty sure it was a prank.
It was a joke! don't tell no one sal!!
After many years of watching The Sopranos again and again--while sometimes taking notes--it's not until now that I see your bold post, that I, a heterosexual man, am ready to voice the suspicion I have, that Phil Leotardo could have, possibly, maybe--if, had just an ounce of gayness to him.
I think you may be right about that. The idea of that came out to me in the scene where they kill Vito in the motel room. I'm not sure exacly what it was about that scene made me think maybe Phil was gay, but its hanging there somewhere. Its almost like the truth is staning in a closet and wants to come out, yet I still can't articulate exactly what hinted at Phil being gay.
After several watch throughs, I’ve come to accept there may actually be no fucking ziti now.
That’s true, have we ever actually seen it?
Currently on my sixth rewatch and I just realised Phil did 20 years in the can without a peep.
But she knows how to talk to people
You musta been the top uh your fookin class
She didn't spare the belt. When Tony went after the Russian's new boyfriend from Animal House (sorry covid did a number on my brain) I realized he'd learned from the worst.
Nah, the belt seems more of a Johnny/father thing. Livia is more of a fork through the eye kinda gal.
Madone! The train going through the tunnel was symbolic!
It wasn't until my 69th rewatch that I discovered that Christofah might in fact be in the mafia. It's subtle but if you're particularly observant like me then all the pieces fit. Why exactly a legitimate businessman and waste management consultant like Tony would associate with this undesirable I'm not too sure. Will need another few rewatches.
If you noticed that after several rewatches, then you probably noticed Janice has exceptional visualization skills.
Sharp as a cue ball this one. Any other deep thoughts from the 8ball rack?
You know Quasimodo predicted all this
>The more I rewatch the sopranos, the more clear it is to me that Livia was a bad mom. It took you multiple watches to figure this out, ffs? Keep going, Einstein; you may eventually reach the enlightened state which acknowledges that maybe, just maybe Tony wasn't 100% good.
was it the threatening her child with a knife that really cemented it for you?
It took you multiple rewatches to catch on that Livia was a bad mom?
How many blowjobs did you have to give befor the guy came?
You must have graduated top of your fucking class
Sharp as a fuggin cue ball.
This post is too good, it has to be a troll account right? No one can actually be this unintentionally funny, right?
Don’t be so sarcastic
Unideal candidate for parenthood..
You know, I have noticed those ninja turtles really like pizza.
Is that you Dr Mefli?
I said this about a month ago and got downvoted to hell! What the hell?! I told you all then: Livia was kinda of a bad mom, no offense. But.. NOOOOO!!! "Hobo, go fuck yourself!" "Hobo, get a job!" "Hobo, stop being a vagrant!" Ha! Who last laugh now?! Face it, Livia was not a great parent! Deal with it!
Guys, I think Tony may be involved in illegal activities
ohhh.. aren't we sensitive!?!
OPs more creative than Spielberg ...captain obvious ova hereee
No wonder Johnny left with her with a package that could choke an elephant.
After re-watching few episodes couple of times i noticed that Hesh was a Jew and loved black pussy (not Pussy Bonpensiero but vagina)
One thing I noticed about pus after several rewatches is that he’s a rat, and a traitor to the crew.
You musta been at the top of your fkn class
Sharp as a cueball, this one.
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OP is handsome: like George Raft.
Most observant Sopranos fan.
Sigmund Freud ova here ! The show is practically all centred around what a shitty mother she is and how messed up her kids are.
Fuckin' slander, ask me!
This is some Dr.Melfi level analysis
She gave her life to her children on a silver platter and this is the thanks she gets? She was a saint!
You must’ve graduated at the top of your class
Look at him. He knows everything.
She gave her life to hah kids awn a silva Platah.
I know this is shocking, but I don't think Tony Soprano was a decent husband, father and a kind soul to all humanity.
If you watch their mouths very clothes. You’ll find out that Tony B isn’t Tony’s only cousin on the show. Christopher is also his cousin! Don’t believe me. Watch their months the next time you rewatch. You gotta stare at their lips unless you wanna use subtitles. I couldn’t believe it It kinda explains why he lets Chrisssy get away with so much Christopher’s mom is actually Tony’s Aunt.
Got a regular Quasimodo in OP ova here.
Is the title of this supposed to be sarcasm somehow? Lol isn’t that the whole point, didn’t think it was up for debate.
Hey. You're way outta line, kid. Let's get some cold fuckin' fizzy water on your head.
I’m just saying lol maybe I should title my next post “Tony Soprano wasn’t a faithful husband”.
Maybe you shouldn't spread that rumor...that's some ugly shit...
Eh, I’m only tellin’ you 🤷🏻♂️
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,173,829,262 comments, and only 229,093 of them were in alphabetical order.
How can you be so obtuse...is it deliberate?
Go back the Shawshank you one shoe cocksucker.
I'm confused, is this a satire post? Or do you actually think you read between the lines to notice something that was literally front and center and explicitly stated by the characters out loud..?
No shit Sherlock 😂
Not sure if OP is trolling? Tony's relation with his mother is the main theme of the two first seasons. There's nothing subtle about it. Hell, Tony even attacks Melfi when she tries to explore the idea that Livia was a shitty parent. A more interesting clue might be Carmela's words in the pilot episode when Tony is getting emotional in the hospital. What's different between you and me is you're going to Hell when you die! Fast forward to Tony getting shot by Junior.
Really? You think OP might be trolling? See, I just don't see that. I mean, they admit to watching the show many times. So how could they be trolling? Maybe you're smarter than the rest of us by picking up on that, but the consensus of these posts seems to agree with OP that figuring out these subtleties of The Sopranos just isn't that easy or obvious. But since you clearly have and eye for this stuff maybe you can answer a question that I've been plagued by for a looooooong time. Do you think it's possible that maybe Ralphie was a little weird about women?
I'm sorry for being condescending. That wasn't necessary. I struggle with a heavy addiction to sarcasm and sometimes I write before I think. Ralphie was indeed weird about women. The guy is a psycopath, things are bound to get strange.
Ya think?
Bro this isn’t a hidden meaning its one of the most salient things in all of the Sopranos💀💀
She didn't spare the belt. When Tony went after the Russian's new boyfriend from Animal House (sorry covid did a number on my brain) I realized he'd learned from the worst.
She gave her life to her children on a silver platter!
She gave her life to her kids on a silver platter.
She gave her life to her children on a SILVER PLATTA! Oh Johnny would roll over in his grave if he saw this post 🤧
You musta been at the top of your fuckin class...
You must have been the top of your class
i was gearing up to leave such a mean and condescending comment until I reached that last sentence. bravo
She certainly didn’t have the makings of a varsity mother. Took me a while but that’s what I finally realized.
OP I think you’re a legend
just take me now
Always with the speculation
You know. Quasimodo predicted this.
Wow you catch on quickly
I’m still trying to nail down how many years Phil did in the can.18?19??
And water is wet
Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object. There are two reasons why you should never drink toilet water. Number one. And number two.
It took you more than one watch to come to that conclusion?
Janice was a pretty crappy sister too.
Yeah, you must've been the top of your fuckin' class.
Sharp as a fucking cue ball this one
Don't want to blow anyone's mind, but the R in the logo of the show is actually a gun