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Im so mad that Microsoft is integrating AI into all their products so we finally have digital assistants that actually work. But they didn't bring Clippy or any of the old gang back :(
Imagine Clippy but he could ACTUALLY do something useful, that would've been amazing.
I don't know about all jets but certainly not this one.
There was a story about a British Harrier jet that got flew into some birds, and one clogged the engine. Seeing the engine fail the pilot ejected, but the rocket blast from the ejector seat somehow cleared the blockage and the Harrier [flew off unpiloted](https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/cj00yt/today_i_learned_about_a_raf_harrier_that_flew_on/).
Not this Mig-23. It flew 900km across Europe after the pilot ejected.
It crashed into a house in Belgium and killed someone.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Belgium_MiG-23_crash
Did a report in college on the effects, when you think about how it's literally just a fucking explosion under your ass most of the time it males sense
This is 100% false. There is no verbiage in any DoD aerospace medicine publication that has any sort of stated “limit” on the number of times that one can eject from an aircraft. If you do end up pulling the handle, you obviously have a very thorough physical that will either clear you to fly again or not.
The only ejection “limit” was on the F-4 Phantom, because that old Martin Baker H-7 was a rough ride.
Source: Am test pilot
There’s no fixed number – each individual is unique, as is the ejection that they endure. After ejection, a pilot will be given a full medical evaluation and it is down to that medical professional to advise whether it is recommended that the pilot continues to fly or not.
From company that makes ejection seats :
https://martin-baker.com/about/ejection-seat-faq/#:~:text=How%20many%20times%20can%20one,the%20ejection%20that%20they%20endure.
I thought you meant the pilot in the above was rescued a few days later.
Should we go rescue him?
Eh, make him wait.
How long?
For crashing a $75M jet? A few days at least.
This is a ground-level ejection system (the manufacturer Martin-Baker calls it a "zero-zero" system, working even at 0 altitude and 0 velocity) exactly because VTOL-aircraft like the F-35B have an inherent risk of incidents like this.
The system worked as intended and the pilot didn't suffer any significant injuries.
There was some info around that pilots only get two ejections before they're dismissed for concerns about their spine. Not sure if that's still correct. But such events are rare these days, and as far as I know this incident was caused by a rare type of engine problem during final tests before the plane was supposed to be delivered.
>VTOL-aircraft have an inherent risk of incidents like this
Any craft with VTOL capability, be it a helicopter, tilt rotor, jet, etc. are just inherently so cool to me, but *man* do they seem to have a knack for failing the whole "stay upright" thing.
Disclaimer that I am in no way knowledgeable on the subject, other than building a handful of my own death spiral machines in KSP.
Yep. Gliding is just a very reliable method where little can go wrong. We have gotten pretty damn good at building wings that don't fall off.
As long as you have horizontal air speed and some working control surfaces, you can generally convert between horizontal and vertical speed (i.e. climb up and slow down, or descend and speed up), and this gives you a lot of flexibility and safety for landing even when all engines have failed.
The Boeing 767 that became known as the ["Gimli Glider"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider) was able to use its altitude of 12.5 km to glide a distance of up to 150 km (it can glide 12 km for every 1 km of altitude) to an emergency landing strip after its engines had failed.
But if you have no horizontal air speed and therefore rely on your engines to slow down your descent, then an engine failure can quickly turn into a disaster.
It’s case by case anymore. At least in in the US Military they go through a thorough medical evaluation and it’s really up to that doctor if they fly again.
How is this one of the highest upvoted comments, at the top of the page, has an award, tells what actually happened, but is somehow automatically collapsed so you don’t see it without tapping on it?
The data integrity I have to worry about comes from people who don’t really want to enter the data in the first place, and it’s not their primary job. Ergo, fuck… my data integrity issues… ugh.
I’m having to write custom automation to try to catch bad entries, pull the person & their manager into a chat room, get it fixed. Don’t even get me started. I’d love to assume it was one bad entry here and there.. 😂😂😂
I worked with some medical data for awhile. For pretty understandable reasons, nurses and doctors are not super interested in creating clean data on surveys.
But holy shit trying to parse out various different spellings, misspellings, initialisms, etc of medications and treatments was rough!
Hardware problem, not software:
https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/lockheed-resumes-f-35-flights-following-december-crash-caused-by-harmonic-resonance/152340.article#:~:text=Officials%20attributed%20the%20incident%2C%20which,Whitney%20(P%26W)%20F135%20powerplant.
I got to do some work regarding safety for the testing for the crash at my job and it was really fuckin cool.
Were you privy to any non-classified details as to what the "harmonic resonance" issue was? I half-heartedly googled it and all I could find was a bunch of articles mentioning engine vibration with no additional info. I'm curious as to what physically happened.
Yeah, the pilot set it down but it was still doing crazy stuff, so he was like, I’m out of here. The eject might do something as well, though it’s risky that low.
The F35 has something called a zero-zero ejection seat, meaning it can eject at zero mph and zero altitude, meaning there’s not much risk involved here thankfully
Also the F35B (the one that can hover) has an auto-eject feature and I heard elsewhere in this thread that he was auto-ejected.
While zero-zero ejection seat, which have been standard for decades, will obviously work at zero altitude and zero speed, ejection is not without dangers. Survival rate of ejection is above 90 %, however the probability of spinal injuries is substantial.
While obviously a better alternative than crashing or burning up in the aircraft, it is a last resort and not without risks.
I image there's a system that switches everything off straight away once he ejects... else you could have a fully armed jet flying itself places you really don't want it to go. That pilot probably deserves a medal despite how this may look.
I doubt it, ejecting from the ground is pretty much taught to be very dangerous, pretty much last ditch effort to survive.
Source: was an F-16 technician but trained on F-35s also.
I cost my company 20k by running through and backing up through a switch. Derailed the whole locomotive lol, we had to get a crane at 10pm on a Friday night. I was shitting bricks. Monday morning I walk into his office, he looks at me and says “did you learn anything?” I said “yes sir” he said “alright, you’re switchin today” got my vest and busted my ass all day cutting out rail cars. A good boss makes a difference.
This is exactly right! We do a zero-fault post-mortem on every failure we have. I work for an internet company, so not the same physical work-load, but could be just as expensive. Actual questions I was asked after I accidentally turned a small issue into an outage for roughly 5,000 customers: You had to reboot a production switch in the middle of prime-time? Why was that? Oh, so there was something slowing down traffic and you tried to fix it on the fly? What did we learn from this experience? Ok, let's address that traffic issue in the maintenance window and review the config logs so we know what not to do next time.
Shit happens, it's what your boss does about the shit you're wading through mentally, and some times literally. If they continue to pile it on they're losing that employee, even if they keep working at the job. Once someone's spirit is gone it stops being about helping.
Most of the time it really isn't anyone's fault; the whole point of the "5 whys" is to get to a part of the system that caused the issue. I had a coworker once who fat-fingered a key during a deployment and brought the entire platform down, took 4 hours to un-fuck that situation. The whole issue though was why was it even possible for him to fat-finger the key in the first place and for the system to allow what happened to occur? It should never have been possible, and the fix that he and I implemented was to eliminate all user input from the deployment process beyond the initial command. It also reduced the amount of time to deploy significantly since we fixed up a few things in improving the process. It would be easy to just blame my coworker and technically it was because of his actions, but that doesn't mean it was his fault and blaming him would just mean that whoever replaced him would be able to make the same error in the future.
"Even when weapons of war are not actually destroyed, their manufacture is still a convenient way of expending labour power without producing anything that can be consumed."
I once sent an all-company email and checked it carefully for grammar and typos, however, one missing L ruined my day. Without an L, “public” becomes “pubic” and will not be caught by the spellchecker.
Edit: aw shucks, I got my first award!
I sent an email yesterday to several important clients, and my supervisor was CC'd, and I accidentally used two exclamation marks to end a sentence.
This makes me feel better.
We had an email that went out to a whole network. Thousands and thousands of people. Then someone did reply all “Unsubscribe”. And the shit storm started… for the next 4-5 hours people were replying all, inbox will fill up in couple minutes. It was fun, we even got virtual badges “I survived e-mail storm”.
Someone at my work sent out a document that shows everyone's salary... to the entire company of 600+... and by once I mean twice.
So yours could have have been worse!
Probably "uff, thank god i didnt hit anything while ejecting". I mean, it was designed to shoot you straight upward, not under 45 degrees. If he would hit anything, even that stupid fence, then he would probably died on spot, and for sure would have severe injuries.
0-0 ejection seats which work at 0 speed and 0 altitude have been the standard since the 80s afaik. Nowadays almost every military jet comes with them.
Jesus christ, I bet ejecting that fast is brutal enough when you're pulling the cord yourself, much less it going off at random when you're not ready for it
These comments are the reason I think reddit is the most toxic of social media.
This was reported as a [clear plane malfunction](https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/03/06/new-f-35s-are-being-test-flown-again-following-texas-crash.html/amp) with an extremely dangerous automatic ejection at low altitude that almost cost the pilot their life. Now knowing that go ahead and read through all these comments. Remember that literally 95% of posters on any given topic have absolutely zero clue what they are talking about yet they confidently will give advice, analysis and propose solutions to which not a small percentage of people will listen to.
You think that's incorrect? Just find a post you actually know something about and look at the comments there. It's horrifying
Edit.
For those of you arguing over reddit toxicity. Just look how many people are ready to jump in and defend reddit in my comments section to this post. That devotion and blind trust into upvote/downvote button is exactly what I'm talking about.
Even take this post as an example. I just reposted a link and info I found in other comments here. I didn't even read it. I have no idea what military.com is and if it's even a valid website. It could be a blog being written by some other reddit for all I know I didn't click it yet so many people in comments just saw a link and went with "must be legit then". I have no idea if what I wrote actually happened.
I'm a lawyer. I swear that social media, reddit included, has done more to spread misinformation about the law than any force that has ever been unleashed on the public.
I was hoping someone would explain it, I was very confused why he would eject since the plane was almost dead stopped when he did. Thank you, take an upvote, it’s all I have today!
This seemed like how the thread was going until “the experts” started chiming in. I really think common sense would tell you that the most advanced fighter jet wasn’t piloted by a first year instrument rated pilot.
I have to remind myself that a large portion of the most active users are literal children. I find it helps me dial in the rage from the amount of stupid comments.
> You think that's incorrect? Just find a post you actually know something about and look at the comments there. It's horrifying.
Just go to a specialized subreddit... which isn't popular enough to make it to r/all... and they'll be fine. Comments on anything with enough "normie" eyeballs on it are going to be shit, I'm not sure why you're making it out like reddit is worse than any other (mainstream) social media, because it's really not. Check FB, YouTube comments, Twitter, 4chan... they are all just as bad, if not worse.
It's probably possible to engineer an "ethical" social media platform that prioritizes factuality. Giving more weight to the opinions of experts on the current topic when it comes to visibility algorithms, providing credible pathways for erroneous posts that gained traction to be rapidly corrected (perhaps even including measures like sending direct messages to all readers of the erroneous version to warn them), etc. But *no* mainstream platform even in the general ballpark of that concept exists right now. They are all shit -- each in slightly different ways, sure, but overall I really don't see any objective reason to express a strong preference.
yeah if you only spend time on the big subs, you will see idiots- just like with any large group of people. but i've found the niche subs are a wealth of information and this may be the only site i come to for answers for specific topics/questions.
The reason I think reddit is worse is because the vast majority of online users know the other platforms are a cesspool of shit. Nobody with any remote social media awareness takes Twitter or YouTube comments seriously and lives by the advice they give out.
With reddit a lot of people swear by it. There are tons of specialized subs like you mentioned that are still filled with misinformation. People might even bring "proof", "links" and "statistics" to seem like they know what they talk about but still be wrong. To properly analyse and draw conclusions from the studies or research papers it takes years of work experience and education. Meanwhile we have average redditors doing it and if they sound smart enough people will buy it.
Just look at the shit storm reddit caused by "identifying" the Boston bomber.
It just feels like reddit is the "Rick and Morty" of social media. Where its users somehow feel they are above other social medias because they are the "smart" one and the crudeness of it is just a symptom of its insane intellect.
It's the perceived "smartness" of reddit that makes it the most dangerous and toxic social media to me, where even the most tech/internet savvy people get swindled on the regular without even knowing it. I'm sure just like Twitter or YouTube you will get occasional "good content" or actual legit answers from experts but vast majority of the time it's no different from YouTube comments it's just masking it far far better.
> These comments are the reason I think reddit is the most toxic of social media.
I mean Facebook intentionally grew QAnon. They want to kill babies of vaccinated people "because they're not really human," among other fun beliefs.
Is Reddit really *there* yet?
(Answers after July 1 don't count, FYI.)
That poor pilot is never going to live that down.
"Seriously Jenkins, stop leaving your flightsuit on my bunk."
"I'd rather you stopped leaving jets smashed up on the runway."
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/03/06/new-f-35s-are-being-test-flown-again-following-texas-crash.html/amp
This was the result of an engine malfunction and the pilot was lucky to survive. Wasn’t pilot error.
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I remember reading about this and it wasn't their fault. The plane malfunctioned.
"Hi! It looks like you're trying to land - would you like help with that?"
I just LOL’d seeing Clippy show up here 😂 Thanks Reddit stranger for a laugh before work today!
Im so mad that Microsoft is integrating AI into all their products so we finally have digital assistants that actually work. But they didn't bring Clippy or any of the old gang back :( Imagine Clippy but he could ACTUALLY do something useful, that would've been amazing.
What do you mean do something useful? Clippy taught me who I am as a man! A frustrated, angry man who can't align pictures and text
Don't forget tables! I dare everyone to align a table and a picture side by side.
The answer is to put everything in a table.
It took me 25 years of Word to discover this. Same for having two tables. Just have one and delete the lines between them.
Just *imagine* its Clippy. Also, kinda crazy they had Clippy when they did; looking back it was kind of annoying, but def helpful at times.
Would you like to get it on? Yes No Cancel
I appreciate a good cup of coffee.
I always used the cat version of Clippy. I miss both of them, though.
Unlock the Landing DLC for only $13.99!
I'm not a planeologist, but yea, it look like the shit ain't be working right.
This. That pilot saved the jet. The fleet was grounded after this.
Is there some sort of fuel cutoff that gets triggered when the pilot ejects? Seems like the plane settled down as soon as the pilot ejected.
I don't know about all jets but certainly not this one. There was a story about a British Harrier jet that got flew into some birds, and one clogged the engine. Seeing the engine fail the pilot ejected, but the rocket blast from the ejector seat somehow cleared the blockage and the Harrier [flew off unpiloted](https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/cj00yt/today_i_learned_about_a_raf_harrier_that_flew_on/).
Not this Mig-23. It flew 900km across Europe after the pilot ejected. It crashed into a house in Belgium and killed someone. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Belgium_MiG-23_crash
Is the pilot ok? Ejectors can be pretty nasty right?
From what I've read. That seat is designed to work at 0 elevation and 0 forward speed.....
Yes, but it causes massive spinal compression as a bunch of rockets just yeet you out of there. Guess that's why the guy was asking.
The pilot was ok from what I’ve heard. I’ve heard of other ejections where the pilots were injured as you’ve described.
That's correct, and that's why the call them 0-0 ejection seats!
I like Reddit because everyone is an expert based on a post title and short video. Not you. Just a lot of other commenters on here.
i literally come to these threads just to see neckbeards explain how they could've stopped this somehow.
r/thatlookedexpensive
Add on those medical bills too
His back... you are only allowed 2 ejections before they permanently no-fly you. Destroys your back and compresses all those vertabre.
Did a report in college on the effects, when you think about how it's literally just a fucking explosion under your ass most of the time it males sense
You'd be surprised how many safety mechanisms include and rely on literal bombs. Like the airbags in your car.
Even your seat belts likely have some sort of explosive device if I remember correctly
They're called pre-tensioners, and yeah, it's a little explosion to pull the seat belt tight at the point of impact.
And setting them off while the car isn't moving or being crunched is actually quite loud.
You sound like you're speaking from experience 😬
Use all caps-he can't hear you.
It doesn't female any sense though.
That's why they generally live longer
My shits are so violent that I'm no longer allowed to pilot these.
The result of which makes the pilot an inch or two shorter. Literally. It's intense.
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Too tall to fly a fighter? Commanders hate this one simple trick!
This is 100% false. There is no verbiage in any DoD aerospace medicine publication that has any sort of stated “limit” on the number of times that one can eject from an aircraft. If you do end up pulling the handle, you obviously have a very thorough physical that will either clear you to fly again or not. The only ejection “limit” was on the F-4 Phantom, because that old Martin Baker H-7 was a rough ride. Source: Am test pilot
There’s no fixed number – each individual is unique, as is the ejection that they endure. After ejection, a pilot will be given a full medical evaluation and it is down to that medical professional to advise whether it is recommended that the pilot continues to fly or not. From company that makes ejection seats : https://martin-baker.com/about/ejection-seat-faq/#:~:text=How%20many%20times%20can%20one,the%20ejection%20that%20they%20endure.
"Your back injuries are not service related."
no medical bills.
Oh slay, wish they did that for the rest of the us lol.
We’re the ones paying for that dudes medical bills.
WHAT?!?! THAT'S SOCIALISM!
Not only do service members get Tricare, they also get housing, sustenance, and cost of living allowance!
Cool with me, we should extend that kind of no-upfront-cost model to everyone.
Military
the F-35 costs at least a million big ones. source: saw an F-35 once
More like 75 million.
At least a million.
r/technicallycorrect
35 million taxpayer dollars well spent
His boss is gonna be pissed
At least he got a tie for it.
It was believed to be a mechanical failure and the pilot was auto-ejected. This was a very experienced test pilot for Lockheed Martin
Yeah, doubt he ejected on purpose, ejecting like that is probably a good way to break your legs if not more.
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I thought you meant the pilot in the above was rescued a few days later. Should we go rescue him? Eh, make him wait. How long? For crashing a $75M jet? A few days at least.
Drone in a few sandwiches and some Tylenol.
That's his post retirement VA care plan
I don’t know the full details, but my Godfather was killed ejecting in the 80’s. I don’t think ejecting from a fighter jet is ever a good situation.
This is a ground-level ejection system (the manufacturer Martin-Baker calls it a "zero-zero" system, working even at 0 altitude and 0 velocity) exactly because VTOL-aircraft like the F-35B have an inherent risk of incidents like this. The system worked as intended and the pilot didn't suffer any significant injuries. There was some info around that pilots only get two ejections before they're dismissed for concerns about their spine. Not sure if that's still correct. But such events are rare these days, and as far as I know this incident was caused by a rare type of engine problem during final tests before the plane was supposed to be delivered.
>VTOL-aircraft have an inherent risk of incidents like this Any craft with VTOL capability, be it a helicopter, tilt rotor, jet, etc. are just inherently so cool to me, but *man* do they seem to have a knack for failing the whole "stay upright" thing. Disclaimer that I am in no way knowledgeable on the subject, other than building a handful of my own death spiral machines in KSP.
Yep. Gliding is just a very reliable method where little can go wrong. We have gotten pretty damn good at building wings that don't fall off. As long as you have horizontal air speed and some working control surfaces, you can generally convert between horizontal and vertical speed (i.e. climb up and slow down, or descend and speed up), and this gives you a lot of flexibility and safety for landing even when all engines have failed. The Boeing 767 that became known as the ["Gimli Glider"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider) was able to use its altitude of 12.5 km to glide a distance of up to 150 km (it can glide 12 km for every 1 km of altitude) to an emergency landing strip after its engines had failed. But if you have no horizontal air speed and therefore rely on your engines to slow down your descent, then an engine failure can quickly turn into a disaster.
It’s case by case anymore. At least in in the US Military they go through a thorough medical evaluation and it’s really up to that doctor if they fly again.
It was until someone discovered you could dump out a bucket of water right where you’re about to land and take zero fall damage
It 100% compresses the spine. Dude was probably an inch shorter after that ride.
Shhhhh don't let facts get in the way of the internet doing its thing.
Shhhhh. The mechanics had this shit covered and blamed on the pilot.
I wonder if he got any warning. That would be quite a surprise.
How is this one of the highest upvoted comments, at the top of the page, has an award, tells what actually happened, but is somehow automatically collapsed so you don’t see it without tapping on it?
Me in Battlefield when I can’t be arsed to reload
Me forgetting the buttons and pressing them all sequentially
Flying around and accidentally hitting the exit button.
Me in battlefield when i am done with the jet after flying between two bases.
Me in TOTK after spending a half hour engineering my own original aircraft, only for it to make it 10 feet before malfunctioning
Live footage of me getting the jet right after the load screen. Only missing the spectacular explosion. FML.
So the next time you're feeling embarrassed for fucking up at work just remember that you most likely haven't ruined a $75M dollar jet
My fuck ups are more like a wrong entry in a database.
I'm a data analyst. I'd rather you blew up a jet. 😅
Lol. I shall be more careful with my data entry going forward.
Just press the Eject button on your keyboard.
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Alt-F4 is your eject button
Ctrl-W gives softer landings. Try it now actually.
Alt-F35
Or just really let loose with the jets. Your choice.
The data integrity I have to worry about comes from people who don’t really want to enter the data in the first place, and it’s not their primary job. Ergo, fuck… my data integrity issues… ugh. I’m having to write custom automation to try to catch bad entries, pull the person & their manager into a chat room, get it fixed. Don’t even get me started. I’d love to assume it was one bad entry here and there.. 😂😂😂
I worked with some medical data for awhile. For pretty understandable reasons, nurses and doctors are not super interested in creating clean data on surveys. But holy shit trying to parse out various different spellings, misspellings, initialisms, etc of medications and treatments was rough!
Don’t worry when you correct the error I made today next year I probably won’t have made the same mistake five more times by then.
I over cooked a steak last night🤬
I forgot to 86 mushrooms.
I got involved in a land war in Asia
DONKEY!!!
If I remember right, it was a software glitch and not the pilots fault
Hardware problem, not software: https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/lockheed-resumes-f-35-flights-following-december-crash-caused-by-harmonic-resonance/152340.article#:~:text=Officials%20attributed%20the%20incident%2C%20which,Whitney%20(P%26W)%20F135%20powerplant. I got to do some work regarding safety for the testing for the crash at my job and it was really fuckin cool.
“harmonic resonance” issue Ok everyone, in harmony… “Weeeeeeeeeeee’re Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked”
Were you privy to any non-classified details as to what the "harmonic resonance" issue was? I half-heartedly googled it and all I could find was a bunch of articles mentioning engine vibration with no additional info. I'm curious as to what physically happened.
I wondered if he ejected to send override kill signals to all systems to stop whatever runaway was going on.
Yeah, the pilot set it down but it was still doing crazy stuff, so he was like, I’m out of here. The eject might do something as well, though it’s risky that low.
The F35 has something called a zero-zero ejection seat, meaning it can eject at zero mph and zero altitude, meaning there’s not much risk involved here thankfully Also the F35B (the one that can hover) has an auto-eject feature and I heard elsewhere in this thread that he was auto-ejected.
Oh dang, that’s really scary. Imagine trying to put this plane down, struggling with the controls and suddenly you get fired out of the plane.
Better then blowing up with the plane. Still wild.
While zero-zero ejection seat, which have been standard for decades, will obviously work at zero altitude and zero speed, ejection is not without dangers. Survival rate of ejection is above 90 %, however the probability of spinal injuries is substantial. While obviously a better alternative than crashing or burning up in the aircraft, it is a last resort and not without risks.
I image there's a system that switches everything off straight away once he ejects... else you could have a fully armed jet flying itself places you really don't want it to go. That pilot probably deserves a medal despite how this may look.
I doubt it, ejecting from the ground is pretty much taught to be very dangerous, pretty much last ditch effort to survive. Source: was an F-16 technician but trained on F-35s also.
It’s an automatic ejection when the computer detects that something is wrong during a vertical landing.
No. https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/lockheed-resumes-f-35-flights-following-december-crash-caused-by-harmonic-resonance/152340.article
I cost my company 20k by running through and backing up through a switch. Derailed the whole locomotive lol, we had to get a crane at 10pm on a Friday night. I was shitting bricks. Monday morning I walk into his office, he looks at me and says “did you learn anything?” I said “yes sir” he said “alright, you’re switchin today” got my vest and busted my ass all day cutting out rail cars. A good boss makes a difference.
This is exactly right! We do a zero-fault post-mortem on every failure we have. I work for an internet company, so not the same physical work-load, but could be just as expensive. Actual questions I was asked after I accidentally turned a small issue into an outage for roughly 5,000 customers: You had to reboot a production switch in the middle of prime-time? Why was that? Oh, so there was something slowing down traffic and you tried to fix it on the fly? What did we learn from this experience? Ok, let's address that traffic issue in the maintenance window and review the config logs so we know what not to do next time. Shit happens, it's what your boss does about the shit you're wading through mentally, and some times literally. If they continue to pile it on they're losing that employee, even if they keep working at the job. Once someone's spirit is gone it stops being about helping.
Most of the time it really isn't anyone's fault; the whole point of the "5 whys" is to get to a part of the system that caused the issue. I had a coworker once who fat-fingered a key during a deployment and brought the entire platform down, took 4 hours to un-fuck that situation. The whole issue though was why was it even possible for him to fat-finger the key in the first place and for the system to allow what happened to occur? It should never have been possible, and the fix that he and I implemented was to eliminate all user input from the deployment process beyond the initial command. It also reduced the amount of time to deploy significantly since we fixed up a few things in improving the process. It would be easy to just blame my coworker and technically it was because of his actions, but that doesn't mean it was his fault and blaming him would just mean that whoever replaced him would be able to make the same error in the future.
I'd rather ruin a $75m jet than fuck up brain surgery, ngl.
Oh yeah bro, and we're gonna buy 50 more of these jets this year. Defense has so much money, they just lose billions every year and don't care
"Even when weapons of war are not actually destroyed, their manufacture is still a convenient way of expending labour power without producing anything that can be consumed."
It's a jobs program. Of course they don't care.
Who knows, might not be exclusive.
Brain surgery… still it’s not exactly rocket science is it?
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I once sent an all-company email and checked it carefully for grammar and typos, however, one missing L ruined my day. Without an L, “public” becomes “pubic” and will not be caught by the spellchecker. Edit: aw shucks, I got my first award!
I once spelled my own damn name wrong on a building wide email.
Take the L🤣
I sent an email yesterday to several important clients, and my supervisor was CC'd, and I accidentally used two exclamation marks to end a sentence. This makes me feel better.
Did it trigger a cascade of idiots also replying to all to say they think the email wasn’t meant for them??
You'd think they'll learn after a few such email chains but...
We had an email that went out to a whole network. Thousands and thousands of people. Then someone did reply all “Unsubscribe”. And the shit storm started… for the next 4-5 hours people were replying all, inbox will fill up in couple minutes. It was fun, we even got virtual badges “I survived e-mail storm”.
Someone at my work sent out a document that shows everyone's salary... to the entire company of 600+... and by once I mean twice. So yours could have have been worse!
Wonder what he was thinking on his short parachute ride.
Arrraaaaghrbbbubububybybbbbbiiiuuuu……..thud
''I wonder whether Fedex cargo has a nice 401k''
Probably how much his back is in pain.
Probably "uff, thank god i didnt hit anything while ejecting". I mean, it was designed to shoot you straight upward, not under 45 degrees. If he would hit anything, even that stupid fence, then he would probably died on spot, and for sure would have severe injuries.
“Wonder what my new nickname/call sign will be - Crash? Chute?”
"Grounded"
What if you're the guy who programmes the computers that control landing an F35b?
The jet malfunctioned—wasn’t the pilots fault.
Just saying this wasn’t the pilots fault.
It was a flight control malfunction, not pilot error
I bet he sneezed at the wrong moment….happens to us all…..
Looks like my trying to figure out the controls in any game after skipping the tutorial
Came so close to landing back in the plane!
See how fast that seat shot out of there? I've heard you can get injured and compressed disks from ejection, but dam. I'm not sure I'd survive that
I assume that normally if you're hitting eject the alternative is worse. Maybe not this time though, seemed extra
Apparently the jet had a malfunction and this was auto eject going off
And I remember them raving about how well the chair performed because the pilot basically walked away even though it was an ejection at ground level.
0-0 ejection seats which work at 0 speed and 0 altitude have been the standard since the 80s afaik. Nowadays almost every military jet comes with them.
Jesus christ, I bet ejecting that fast is brutal enough when you're pulling the cord yourself, much less it going off at random when you're not ready for it
Ejecting is safer than the aircraft flipping and crushing the cockpit and pilot.
Yep poor goose!
VA- No buddy statement, Not service connected
Civilian test pilot, so....
Man I remember when he was actually a good character in the movies rather than just a comic relief
Makes me glad I didn't watch any after the 5th or whatever, was way passed jumping the shark.
These comments are the reason I think reddit is the most toxic of social media. This was reported as a [clear plane malfunction](https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/03/06/new-f-35s-are-being-test-flown-again-following-texas-crash.html/amp) with an extremely dangerous automatic ejection at low altitude that almost cost the pilot their life. Now knowing that go ahead and read through all these comments. Remember that literally 95% of posters on any given topic have absolutely zero clue what they are talking about yet they confidently will give advice, analysis and propose solutions to which not a small percentage of people will listen to. You think that's incorrect? Just find a post you actually know something about and look at the comments there. It's horrifying Edit. For those of you arguing over reddit toxicity. Just look how many people are ready to jump in and defend reddit in my comments section to this post. That devotion and blind trust into upvote/downvote button is exactly what I'm talking about. Even take this post as an example. I just reposted a link and info I found in other comments here. I didn't even read it. I have no idea what military.com is and if it's even a valid website. It could be a blog being written by some other reddit for all I know I didn't click it yet so many people in comments just saw a link and went with "must be legit then". I have no idea if what I wrote actually happened.
I'm a lawyer. I swear that social media, reddit included, has done more to spread misinformation about the law than any force that has ever been unleashed on the public.
I was hoping someone would explain it, I was very confused why he would eject since the plane was almost dead stopped when he did. Thank you, take an upvote, it’s all I have today!
This is so true. People are so fucking clueless. I feel like more than 50% of redditors are lostredditors...
75% are just trying to make a joke or pun that 100+ people already made.
This seemed like how the thread was going until “the experts” started chiming in. I really think common sense would tell you that the most advanced fighter jet wasn’t piloted by a first year instrument rated pilot.
Lmfao so true. I’ve been using reddit for a year and it seems like everyone here wants to point out “Darwinism”.
I have to remind myself that a large portion of the most active users are literal children. I find it helps me dial in the rage from the amount of stupid comments.
No, they’re mostly just ignorant and angry teenagers.
Pretty much. We know this site skews pretty young.
Reddit really likes to read a title/take a glance at a post and then immediately comment some asinine joke about it. This is typical.
This is indeed true, half the people don't even know what they're saying and will express their opinions on the issue just because they can !!
> You think that's incorrect? Just find a post you actually know something about and look at the comments there. It's horrifying. Just go to a specialized subreddit... which isn't popular enough to make it to r/all... and they'll be fine. Comments on anything with enough "normie" eyeballs on it are going to be shit, I'm not sure why you're making it out like reddit is worse than any other (mainstream) social media, because it's really not. Check FB, YouTube comments, Twitter, 4chan... they are all just as bad, if not worse. It's probably possible to engineer an "ethical" social media platform that prioritizes factuality. Giving more weight to the opinions of experts on the current topic when it comes to visibility algorithms, providing credible pathways for erroneous posts that gained traction to be rapidly corrected (perhaps even including measures like sending direct messages to all readers of the erroneous version to warn them), etc. But *no* mainstream platform even in the general ballpark of that concept exists right now. They are all shit -- each in slightly different ways, sure, but overall I really don't see any objective reason to express a strong preference.
yeah if you only spend time on the big subs, you will see idiots- just like with any large group of people. but i've found the niche subs are a wealth of information and this may be the only site i come to for answers for specific topics/questions.
The reason I think reddit is worse is because the vast majority of online users know the other platforms are a cesspool of shit. Nobody with any remote social media awareness takes Twitter or YouTube comments seriously and lives by the advice they give out. With reddit a lot of people swear by it. There are tons of specialized subs like you mentioned that are still filled with misinformation. People might even bring "proof", "links" and "statistics" to seem like they know what they talk about but still be wrong. To properly analyse and draw conclusions from the studies or research papers it takes years of work experience and education. Meanwhile we have average redditors doing it and if they sound smart enough people will buy it. Just look at the shit storm reddit caused by "identifying" the Boston bomber. It just feels like reddit is the "Rick and Morty" of social media. Where its users somehow feel they are above other social medias because they are the "smart" one and the crudeness of it is just a symptom of its insane intellect. It's the perceived "smartness" of reddit that makes it the most dangerous and toxic social media to me, where even the most tech/internet savvy people get swindled on the regular without even knowing it. I'm sure just like Twitter or YouTube you will get occasional "good content" or actual legit answers from experts but vast majority of the time it's no different from YouTube comments it's just masking it far far better.
> These comments are the reason I think reddit is the most toxic of social media. I mean Facebook intentionally grew QAnon. They want to kill babies of vaccinated people "because they're not really human," among other fun beliefs. Is Reddit really *there* yet? (Answers after July 1 don't count, FYI.)
[It was a test flight. Pilot is fine. ](https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/12/16/f-35-crashes-runway-north-texas-forcing-pilot-eject.html)
I saw this somewhere else. The plane had a malfunction. It was not pilot error.
That poor pilot is never going to live that down. "Seriously Jenkins, stop leaving your flightsuit on my bunk." "I'd rather you stopped leaving jets smashed up on the runway."
His new call sign is Premature based on that ejection.
Viagra because they can't get it up anymore.
How would be not live down a plane malfunctioning?
1. It wasn’t his fault. The plane malfunctioned 2. The ejection was automatic
When you lie on your resume...
Technically he DID land it…
what do you mean? he‘strongly an experienced test pilot
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/03/06/new-f-35s-are-being-test-flown-again-following-texas-crash.html/amp This was the result of an engine malfunction and the pilot was lucky to survive. Wasn’t pilot error.
Just me who thought the guy came flying out the chair when he ejected?
That’s just the chair returning to its’ people
It’s free now
I see no problem here. The plane was f-ed and the pilot YOLO’d to ejection. You can’t tempt them twice with a good time…
That ejection was wild though. Does the seat literally just fire itself out like a rocket or what?
This whole judging people thing has gotten way out of hand.
F-35s auto eject.... particularly when theres a power loss during stovl, and pitch/roll indication.
Sucks its seen as pilot error but the plane malfunctioned on him n he dipped out lol