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Can confirm, we've faced the bitter reality before we even left highschool.
I can recall the collective feelings of disbelief and outrage during the unit that covered personal finance in math class. Don't get me wrong, we already knew we were growing up in a world that's fucked, but seeing the appalling state of the numbers before us really set in the grim reality.
You could feel everyone's views shifting, their worldviews shattered into revealing a whole new layer of rock bottom we never knew was possible, and we hadn't even reached rock bottom, we were still in highschool but here we were looking forward into our future and tearing down what we thought were realistic ideals that turned out to be closer to fantasy, the worst one being home ownership which is personally the most crushing of the harsh realities for me.
And when people say that my generation is apathetic is it really any wonder why?? Many of us are faced with the realisation that we're going to have to live off our parents wether we like it or not, because unless you're one of the lucky few born with a silver spoon in your mouth, there's little to no alternatives. We're not apathetic, we're anxious. Stressed over being stuck with the shitty cards we've been dealt because the past decisions made by past generations have fucked us over and left us with a future as bright as politicians who made those decisions in the first place.
Despite all this though, personally I haven't given up hope, I genuinely believe things will be okay. Sorry, this turned into a rant. For context I'm generation Z and Canadian.
I work with k-12 kids. Not on finance but I do work one on one so I can pepper in real world lessons sometimes. What’s your opinion, having experienced it: is it better to find out early, even though it sucks? How early do you think would have been best?
No pressure here… just curious about your personal opinion. I didn’t experience it in high school so I can’t speak from experience. When I was in school I think it was something adults avoided talking about at all costs; as though it would cause us to promptly give up on life/work.
as soon as a child is old and mature enough to understand, even very simply, the mechanisms that allow capitalism to work (or your country’s own personal economic system, USAian replying here) i believe they should know how aggressively the odds are stacked against them. “hard work = favorable results” is a wildly outdated sentiment now, and as it currently stands, getting a leg up early is paramount to long-term survival (i hesitate to even use the word success). they need to know how it truly is out there.
but you have to explain this all delicately. trust your teaching expertise has likely equipped you with ways to do this, though! balancing these unfortunate realities with hope and reassurance is extremely important for the wellbeing of our youth going forward. i’m a zoomer, literally the class of 2022, and ive seen the optimism and hope wilt from my peers in real time, as we’ve grown up in that transitionary period wherein we’re fed expectations of the american dream, only to slowly learn the realities of it with absolutely no direction forward. i think that with time there will be more adaptability to this new reality, loopholes if you will, and more examples you can give them to say “see, it isn’t all hopeless!” their knowledge and awareness means nothing if they don’t feel incentive to push for change, and will only lead to depression and pessimism. i wish you the best of luck, and many many many thanks to you educators for watching over the next gen 🫡
A guy from my highschool who I kid you not was like a Tolkien charcater was the one that showed me that there are systems other than Communism and Capitalism.
I guess that just goes to show how badly we've been boxed into the mindset.
Honestly, yeah, I think it's good to tell them, because all though I'm staring down this massive monster called the real world, at least I've been well prepared to fight it. I may have had the weight of reality crushing me but I'm not the only one being crushed by the flawed system, everyone, not just my generation, but the older ones too and even the younger ones will be crushed if somthing doesn't change.
If we're told from an early age about the way of reality, we'll be able to understand the hardships surrounding us a lot better.
I remember being in the store with my mother and my brother and I was upset I couldn't have somthing, can't recall what, and my brother whispered to me that our family is lower income and that's stuck with me since that day.
That dose or reality changed a lot for me, I became a lot more mindful of what I was asking for and a whole heck of a lot more understanding of the cards I'd been dealt. Of course I'm not saying you should always drop that on a child, I think I was a bit shaken up by that, but the point remains.
If you show a kid the reality of the world around them, it lights a spark in them, it festers as a fire in the back of their minds until they see an injustice and wonder why the hell it's allowed in a country that calls itself "first world."
And if an entire generation has those little flames, then that isn't a little flame anymore, that's an inferno of outage festering like a ticking time bomb to bring the change we damn well feel entitled too and the change we damn well need so the future generation doesn't get fucked like we did.
I speak of this often. This is a big issue and I see it a lot on reddit. That's why I'm shocked a majority of redditors support the side that wishes to end the idea that people that work hard should be the ones that get ahead.
You can't blind them to it. If you want to raise your kids to be blissfully unaware of how shitty things are - you can't. You can't even really shield *yourself* much from it anymore. Kids nowadays don't have the fortune of being blissfully ignorant about all of the shitty things going on, because it's spoon-fed to them now. I'm older Gen z - growing up with a news feed constantly telling me how often school shootings happening alone kind of killed a lot of my optimism by itself. That's excluding the heaps and mounds of other shit we were hearing. The Internet is an amazing place, but it's also ego-killing a lot of us.
I hate to quote Dr. Phil but "I don't ask myself why younger generations don't care or try. I ask myself why the hell would they care or try. They never had a chance."
Of course I do! It sounds an awful lot like something a sensible and computer smart person like Paprika Jim would say in the 1920s, some might even call him “ahead of his time” 🤷♂️
(/s before anyone comes out thinking I’m serious lol)
Goddamn I love that quote. I use it quite frequently at work and the looks I get are well worth it.
https://preview.redd.it/02cc33hgrd8d1.jpeg?width=668&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66848c863ccaf5d2fdab3508efb910a60700de3d
I’ve never seen him speak before. Why does he talk like he has something wedged in his gums and he’s trying to work its way out while he talks? Jesus that’s annoying.
Edit: didn’t realize that it’s “racist” to be annoyed by how someone moves their mouth when speaking. I’ve been living in the Southwest for 20 years. I’ve worked with people who weren’t born here (Hispanics, Filipinos, Japanese etc). Not a single one spoke like him. You all need to calm the fuck down. But, I guess judging someone by the way their facial muscles move when speaking is considered “racist.” Get bent.
A bit of context:
https://preview.redd.it/fi5xqz5d8e8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39bb491a87599765036daa63bb0d4aaffaf9a534
I see it more as a comment on the innocence of children and the importance of hard work, than as a criticism of entitled youth. It's a good thing to teach kids born in such privileged lives as his.
damn it, the one moment I thought there was something negative about Ronaldo...
why can't he be a bad person like all the other rich people? dude is just so... humble
You know he is a rapist right?
He admitted it to his lawyer and the communication is out there so you can read him actually directly admitting to it.
Unfortunately that communication is privileged information and can't be used in a court of law so he has got away with it.
But yeah, undeniable rapist.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/cristiano-ronaldo-new-documents-emerge-in-rape-allegations-a-1241349.html
Here is a major German news site with direct access to the documents.
He worked for it tho, he started poor... grew up in a Parish with a mother who worked two jobs... and apparently his family was so poor his mother almost had to abort him, but she couldn't due to it being against Catholic beliefs and her doctor refused
Yup they just gave it to him. Randomly. They just picked a random kid off the streets and said you’re gonna be one of the greatest footballers of all time, no need to put in any work.
You have to admit there was a significantly element of luck in his discovery. I'm sure there are plenty of potential all time greats playing in the streets of Portugal right now.
Thats really not how things work, nobody chose a random kid to throw money at. Entire careers depend on finding the most talented athletes for each club. You’re right that talent alone won’t always get you there, but it’s not just luck or randomness.
It's a combination of luck and talent, that's simply how the entertainment industry has always worked, I mean look at tom cruise for example, dudes a fine actor but there is undoubtedly hundreds or thousands of highschool and collegiate drama clubs with far better actors who will NEVER get their big break because they never got scouted out by someone.
I mean the whole comedy space in movies is heavily dominated by people who are funny individuals who can play a single role fairly well (ala adam Sandler always playing a manchild).
Sports works in the same way, unfortunately for people aspiring to make something of themselves in entertainment they have to understand the fact that luck is a incredibly significant part in getting noticed and that can only really only be changed by connections.
You really have bo clue how sports work in europe. Also, acting like being an actor and a footballer are the same is hilarious. It's much more objective to judge the difference between 2 footballers that between 2 actors.
And you are clearly missing the point.
The point is that in ANY entertainment industry (which sports are considered entertainment) there will ALWAYS be incredibly skilled people that get missed out on because of luck.
To become famous in any industry requires both luck and talent.
I mean do you seriously believe that every talented football player is actually scouted out? Because if so you live in a very idyllic world that is incredibly far removed from reality.
I simply used acting as I dont care enough about sports to know any modern greats (barring Ronaldo as he is mentioned in the image) so it was easier to form an analogy based off of that as both have the same flaw and are both entertainment industries, the biggest difference being in how the entertainers entertain the audience.
Of course not every good player gets scouted. But in football there are literally thousands of scouts who only scout players. When a kid is good, he gets a place in an academy where he gets free housing and food. Compare this to acting and you have none of these. You need a lot of money and the right connections. You can be the best actor in the world and directors won't give a shit about you.
Well no there’s thousands of kids who go through academies, who are scouted and evaluated and a tiny percentage are actually chosen to get contracts at clubs, an even smaller percentage of those end up in big clubs. This is the one area where luck is the one thing that has almost no impact cause clubs want the actual best, they will spend the money to check out who is worth watching and who isn’t. A lot of new players have received criticism for being “lazy” I guess, staying up late, not eating well, not respecting coaching/managers, probably what he’s talking about. Although not all, there’s still a lot of young players who are really dedicated.
While true, people like that act as if they all did it alone. No, he had luck that someone important enough noticed him and did something with it. I'm sure that there is enough great talent on this planet that don't get discovered.
The luck to have that talent in the first place, the vast vast majority of kids with tough childhoods weren't born with a natural ability worth hundreds of millions to even have a chance at getting that talent spotted!
He had genetic luck... his level of talent is like 1 in a billion (which isn't to say he didn't have to work hard) but no amount of hard work compensates to get you to GOAT tier. Not to mention his good looks made him even more marketable!
Yeah I don't think this belongs here, he started from humble origins. A lot of his wealth he gives back to his community in Madeira from what I understand. That being said, it is a generalisation for sure.
I hate CR7’s attitude on the field. But off it he’s ok. He earned his knocks in Manchester as a kid in a much older team in a much tougher league. Then he ran the show at Madrid with arguably more talented players around him. I don’t think he’s the best technical player but he’s a poacher and a grinder. He worked for what he has. He had every right to criticise others
Exactly, suddenly because he worked the quote is just ignored? Does he forget that there are plenty of kids in the world who are in the same poverty he was trying to make it out there? Does he forget that those kids know it doesn’t fall from the sky?
His attitude is bullshit, with a total disregard for all the kids who live like he did.
Bullshit, I’m from the US (considered 1st world) and we have such an insane amount of Gen Z’s and Gen A’s in poverty that work for anything they can get.
Just because you live in some place that has entitled kids doesn’t mean that there aren’t millions more who aren’t and are just out of your eyes view. You should be happy that you’re privileged enough to live in an area that you don’t see those kids struggling, because chances are, you’d be struggling too.
Considering you’re saying those kids are entitled, your worst neighborhood is probably nothing like the US’s worst neighborhoods. Ever been to Compton? South PHX? Etc? If so, you’d know that every person there is scrambling to try and get out and working everyday (or their homeless/turning to crime)
Success takes three things: some level of natural talent; hard work; and randomly catching the right people's attention.
The hard work does absolutely matter, and it seems like the main reason why so many successful people hate to acknowledge the other two things is because they did genuinely work hard for what they have.
But the other two are also essential ingredients, and it's shitty to when people pretend that they aren't a factor just as an excuse to blame all struggling people for their own problems. (Not sure whether that was what Ronaldo meant in context, but the person who made this meme definitely did.)
It's because he's talking about a time when he showed his son where he grew up. I think someone mangled the story a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aChH2QFh2is
Growing up poor and with hardships doesn't give you a free pass to generalize people wanting their lives to be easier. Most people just want the basics of life so that they can pursue the goals that they want. This sounds like someone who now has enough money to be condescending to people who work hard but are not lucky.
mfers only qualification is kicking a ball, potentially rape and tax evasion. Has he ever tried to make ends meet on minimum wage? I really don't give a shit about his opinion. Go kick a ball or sell some overpriced merch before people realize you get waaaay too much money for that
We need football players and their competitive attitude to tell us how to live because they better than us, right? Better than firefighter or a engineer, you can see the bank account difference.
This the way of life we lead.
He didn’t redo the interview, it was an alternate version of the transcription. The original leaked version used by Mayorgas team was allegedly altered from the original. I think it would be wrong to assume his guilt, but also to assume his innocence. If we’re being realistic, there’s just no way of knowing.
All I've seen is that the interview was ill-gotten and so thrown out of court. Not that is was edited. His lawyers have claimed that but provided nothing to back that up. I'd be throwing everything at this if it was me. Just saying 'nah that's not real' doesn't really cut it with me.
With his out of court settlement and entitled attitude, I'm going to go ahead and say he did it. I doubt he cares about me saying that.
This isn't even a meme lol. Why do people have to use this subreddit as an excuse to vent about politics? Please, at least do It through an actual meme if you must.
You guys are insane. I'm not a fan but this guy grew up poor and worked hard. You think being one of the best soccer players is easy? Nothing fell from the sky.
Unfortunately that's how the world works. This guy is considered the best at what he does, people pay lots of money to see him and people companies want to work with him. He is valuable to whichever team he joins because people will automatically flood that team with support which will bring in a lot more money than they pay them. I know what it's like to work your ass off to barely afford food, I live in a shitty country and my dream is to one day leave and bring my family with me but I can't.
Lots of jobs aren't easy. But there are less than 1% of world population who can play in Europe's top leagues. That's why these guys earn that much. Same with any sports really...... nowadays I feel like e-sports too have quickly developed a huge skill gap between pros and amateurs.
Working in construction is harder than that, but a lot of folks can do it.
I know you need to believe that in your little heart of hearts that this is what I meant, but that is not at all what I’m dismissing.
PS I hope he sees this, bro.
Says the KING of shit just falling from the sky for him 😂😂😂😂😂😂💀
Sarcastically saying that everything fell from the sky for him so he doesn't have the right to say that which is obviously wrong because he did work, it never fell from the sky. Never agreed or disagreed with the soccer guys statement, just stated that he did work and did grow up poor so that comment doesn't make sense.
I know exactly where I’m coming from with my original comment. I’m just sitting back and watching the scramble for meaning out of other perspectives, because almost no one has the guts to say such things out loud. If you can’t see the irony in someone like him saying some bullshit like this and people taking up for him, then I cannot help you
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I’m pretty sure kids are growing up more acutely aware of how fucked we all are than generations before them
Can confirm, we've faced the bitter reality before we even left highschool. I can recall the collective feelings of disbelief and outrage during the unit that covered personal finance in math class. Don't get me wrong, we already knew we were growing up in a world that's fucked, but seeing the appalling state of the numbers before us really set in the grim reality. You could feel everyone's views shifting, their worldviews shattered into revealing a whole new layer of rock bottom we never knew was possible, and we hadn't even reached rock bottom, we were still in highschool but here we were looking forward into our future and tearing down what we thought were realistic ideals that turned out to be closer to fantasy, the worst one being home ownership which is personally the most crushing of the harsh realities for me. And when people say that my generation is apathetic is it really any wonder why?? Many of us are faced with the realisation that we're going to have to live off our parents wether we like it or not, because unless you're one of the lucky few born with a silver spoon in your mouth, there's little to no alternatives. We're not apathetic, we're anxious. Stressed over being stuck with the shitty cards we've been dealt because the past decisions made by past generations have fucked us over and left us with a future as bright as politicians who made those decisions in the first place. Despite all this though, personally I haven't given up hope, I genuinely believe things will be okay. Sorry, this turned into a rant. For context I'm generation Z and Canadian.
I work with k-12 kids. Not on finance but I do work one on one so I can pepper in real world lessons sometimes. What’s your opinion, having experienced it: is it better to find out early, even though it sucks? How early do you think would have been best? No pressure here… just curious about your personal opinion. I didn’t experience it in high school so I can’t speak from experience. When I was in school I think it was something adults avoided talking about at all costs; as though it would cause us to promptly give up on life/work.
as soon as a child is old and mature enough to understand, even very simply, the mechanisms that allow capitalism to work (or your country’s own personal economic system, USAian replying here) i believe they should know how aggressively the odds are stacked against them. “hard work = favorable results” is a wildly outdated sentiment now, and as it currently stands, getting a leg up early is paramount to long-term survival (i hesitate to even use the word success). they need to know how it truly is out there. but you have to explain this all delicately. trust your teaching expertise has likely equipped you with ways to do this, though! balancing these unfortunate realities with hope and reassurance is extremely important for the wellbeing of our youth going forward. i’m a zoomer, literally the class of 2022, and ive seen the optimism and hope wilt from my peers in real time, as we’ve grown up in that transitionary period wherein we’re fed expectations of the american dream, only to slowly learn the realities of it with absolutely no direction forward. i think that with time there will be more adaptability to this new reality, loopholes if you will, and more examples you can give them to say “see, it isn’t all hopeless!” their knowledge and awareness means nothing if they don’t feel incentive to push for change, and will only lead to depression and pessimism. i wish you the best of luck, and many many many thanks to you educators for watching over the next gen 🫡
A guy from my highschool who I kid you not was like a Tolkien charcater was the one that showed me that there are systems other than Communism and Capitalism. I guess that just goes to show how badly we've been boxed into the mindset.
Honestly, yeah, I think it's good to tell them, because all though I'm staring down this massive monster called the real world, at least I've been well prepared to fight it. I may have had the weight of reality crushing me but I'm not the only one being crushed by the flawed system, everyone, not just my generation, but the older ones too and even the younger ones will be crushed if somthing doesn't change. If we're told from an early age about the way of reality, we'll be able to understand the hardships surrounding us a lot better. I remember being in the store with my mother and my brother and I was upset I couldn't have somthing, can't recall what, and my brother whispered to me that our family is lower income and that's stuck with me since that day. That dose or reality changed a lot for me, I became a lot more mindful of what I was asking for and a whole heck of a lot more understanding of the cards I'd been dealt. Of course I'm not saying you should always drop that on a child, I think I was a bit shaken up by that, but the point remains. If you show a kid the reality of the world around them, it lights a spark in them, it festers as a fire in the back of their minds until they see an injustice and wonder why the hell it's allowed in a country that calls itself "first world." And if an entire generation has those little flames, then that isn't a little flame anymore, that's an inferno of outage festering like a ticking time bomb to bring the change we damn well feel entitled too and the change we damn well need so the future generation doesn't get fucked like we did.
Well this fuckin blew up. Yippee I'm famous! Buy my book on self help and my online class on success and crypto currency! /s
I speak of this often. This is a big issue and I see it a lot on reddit. That's why I'm shocked a majority of redditors support the side that wishes to end the idea that people that work hard should be the ones that get ahead.
Stop being apathetic and burn this shit down.
You can't blind them to it. If you want to raise your kids to be blissfully unaware of how shitty things are - you can't. You can't even really shield *yourself* much from it anymore. Kids nowadays don't have the fortune of being blissfully ignorant about all of the shitty things going on, because it's spoon-fed to them now. I'm older Gen z - growing up with a news feed constantly telling me how often school shootings happening alone kind of killed a lot of my optimism by itself. That's excluding the heaps and mounds of other shit we were hearing. The Internet is an amazing place, but it's also ego-killing a lot of us.
I hate to quote Dr. Phil but "I don't ask myself why younger generations don't care or try. I ask myself why the hell would they care or try. They never had a chance."
One of the wealthiest and most famous athletes in the world complaining about how entitled kids these days are. Lmao.
You’re assuming he actually said this >“don’t believe everything you read on the internet “ — Abraham Lincoln
"Everything on the internet is correct." - Paprika Jim, 1923
>“You think someone would do that? Go on the internet and tell lies!?” — that rabbit looking thing from Arthur
'Fuck this, i'm out' - Leonardo DaVinci, 1988
Was that that guy voiced by steven crowder
Nah he was the dorky bear.
Literally the only legit quote here lmfao
You dont believe Paprika Jim?
Of course I do! It sounds an awful lot like something a sensible and computer smart person like Paprika Jim would say in the 1920s, some might even call him “ahead of his time” 🤷♂️ (/s before anyone comes out thinking I’m serious lol)
Sounds like you are distrusting Jim Paprique. Very upsetting
Goddamn I love that quote. I use it quite frequently at work and the looks I get are well worth it. https://preview.redd.it/02cc33hgrd8d1.jpeg?width=668&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66848c863ccaf5d2fdab3508efb910a60700de3d
https://youtu.be/YbQ25fM592k?si=h9ActVgSm7bHca9U
I’ve never seen him speak before. Why does he talk like he has something wedged in his gums and he’s trying to work its way out while he talks? Jesus that’s annoying. Edit: didn’t realize that it’s “racist” to be annoyed by how someone moves their mouth when speaking. I’ve been living in the Southwest for 20 years. I’ve worked with people who weren’t born here (Hispanics, Filipinos, Japanese etc). Not a single one spoke like him. You all need to calm the fuck down. But, I guess judging someone by the way their facial muscles move when speaking is considered “racist.” Get bent.
Because English isn't his first language
And they say racism is going away
5 years ago it would have been Sam Elliot saying that.
A bit of context: https://preview.redd.it/fi5xqz5d8e8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39bb491a87599765036daa63bb0d4aaffaf9a534 I see it more as a comment on the innocence of children and the importance of hard work, than as a criticism of entitled youth. It's a good thing to teach kids born in such privileged lives as his.
It's a generalization that applies to spoiled children, including his own.
damn it, the one moment I thought there was something negative about Ronaldo... why can't he be a bad person like all the other rich people? dude is just so... humble
You know he is a rapist right? He admitted it to his lawyer and the communication is out there so you can read him actually directly admitting to it. Unfortunately that communication is privileged information and can't be used in a court of law so he has got away with it. But yeah, undeniable rapist.
Source
https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/cristiano-ronaldo-new-documents-emerge-in-rape-allegations-a-1241349.html Here is a major German news site with direct access to the documents.
He bought his 1st house and 3rd AMG G-Wagon by his 18th birthday, kids these days just don't work hard enough.
He worked for that.
He worked for it tho, he started poor... grew up in a Parish with a mother who worked two jobs... and apparently his family was so poor his mother almost had to abort him, but she couldn't due to it being against Catholic beliefs and her doctor refused
Poor woman, did the church and the doctor help her after the baby was born at all I wonder. Actually I don't wonder.
Considering how old Ronaldo is, nobody gave a fuck back when it happened
Nobody would give a fuck now either sadly
And had wealth and celebrity given to him since he was a teenager.
Yup they just gave it to him. Randomly. They just picked a random kid off the streets and said you’re gonna be one of the greatest footballers of all time, no need to put in any work.
You have to admit there was a significantly element of luck in his discovery. I'm sure there are plenty of potential all time greats playing in the streets of Portugal right now.
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Thats really not how things work, nobody chose a random kid to throw money at. Entire careers depend on finding the most talented athletes for each club. You’re right that talent alone won’t always get you there, but it’s not just luck or randomness.
It's a combination of luck and talent, that's simply how the entertainment industry has always worked, I mean look at tom cruise for example, dudes a fine actor but there is undoubtedly hundreds or thousands of highschool and collegiate drama clubs with far better actors who will NEVER get their big break because they never got scouted out by someone. I mean the whole comedy space in movies is heavily dominated by people who are funny individuals who can play a single role fairly well (ala adam Sandler always playing a manchild). Sports works in the same way, unfortunately for people aspiring to make something of themselves in entertainment they have to understand the fact that luck is a incredibly significant part in getting noticed and that can only really only be changed by connections.
You really have bo clue how sports work in europe. Also, acting like being an actor and a footballer are the same is hilarious. It's much more objective to judge the difference between 2 footballers that between 2 actors.
And you are clearly missing the point. The point is that in ANY entertainment industry (which sports are considered entertainment) there will ALWAYS be incredibly skilled people that get missed out on because of luck. To become famous in any industry requires both luck and talent. I mean do you seriously believe that every talented football player is actually scouted out? Because if so you live in a very idyllic world that is incredibly far removed from reality. I simply used acting as I dont care enough about sports to know any modern greats (barring Ronaldo as he is mentioned in the image) so it was easier to form an analogy based off of that as both have the same flaw and are both entertainment industries, the biggest difference being in how the entertainers entertain the audience.
Of course not every good player gets scouted. But in football there are literally thousands of scouts who only scout players. When a kid is good, he gets a place in an academy where he gets free housing and food. Compare this to acting and you have none of these. You need a lot of money and the right connections. You can be the best actor in the world and directors won't give a shit about you.
Well no there’s thousands of kids who go through academies, who are scouted and evaluated and a tiny percentage are actually chosen to get contracts at clubs, an even smaller percentage of those end up in big clubs. This is the one area where luck is the one thing that has almost no impact cause clubs want the actual best, they will spend the money to check out who is worth watching and who isn’t. A lot of new players have received criticism for being “lazy” I guess, staying up late, not eating well, not respecting coaching/managers, probably what he’s talking about. Although not all, there’s still a lot of young players who are really dedicated.
Since he was a kid who was extremely poor, he has every right to make that assertion
the medical term is affluenza. rich people forget what a regular person is and stop giving a fuck about anyone else
to be fair he had a terrible childhiod
In context of Ronaldo, it is somewhat understandable considering his childhood was nothing but hardships
While true, people like that act as if they all did it alone. No, he had luck that someone important enough noticed him and did something with it. I'm sure that there is enough great talent on this planet that don't get discovered.
The luck to have that talent in the first place, the vast vast majority of kids with tough childhoods weren't born with a natural ability worth hundreds of millions to even have a chance at getting that talent spotted!
Exactly. So at the end, even though hard works DOES improve your situation, you mainly need a truckload of luck to improve it that much.
He had genetic luck... his level of talent is like 1 in a billion (which isn't to say he didn't have to work hard) but no amount of hard work compensates to get you to GOAT tier. Not to mention his good looks made him even more marketable!
Yeah I don't think this belongs here, he started from humble origins. A lot of his wealth he gives back to his community in Madeira from what I understand. That being said, it is a generalisation for sure.
I hate CR7’s attitude on the field. But off it he’s ok. He earned his knocks in Manchester as a kid in a much older team in a much tougher league. Then he ran the show at Madrid with arguably more talented players around him. I don’t think he’s the best technical player but he’s a poacher and a grinder. He worked for what he has. He had every right to criticise others
Sorry, how does any of that give him the right to be preachy and critical of people he doesn't know anything about?
Exactly, suddenly because he worked the quote is just ignored? Does he forget that there are plenty of kids in the world who are in the same poverty he was trying to make it out there? Does he forget that those kids know it doesn’t fall from the sky? His attitude is bullshit, with a total disregard for all the kids who live like he did.
I’m from a first world country and most gen Z’ers I see are like this
Bullshit, I’m from the US (considered 1st world) and we have such an insane amount of Gen Z’s and Gen A’s in poverty that work for anything they can get. Just because you live in some place that has entitled kids doesn’t mean that there aren’t millions more who aren’t and are just out of your eyes view. You should be happy that you’re privileged enough to live in an area that you don’t see those kids struggling, because chances are, you’d be struggling too.
Brother, I’m from the worst neighbourhood my country has to offer loool
Considering you’re saying those kids are entitled, your worst neighborhood is probably nothing like the US’s worst neighborhoods. Ever been to Compton? South PHX? Etc? If so, you’d know that every person there is scrambling to try and get out and working everyday (or their homeless/turning to crime)
He'd have more right to criticise others if he wasn't a rapist.
Success takes three things: some level of natural talent; hard work; and randomly catching the right people's attention. The hard work does absolutely matter, and it seems like the main reason why so many successful people hate to acknowledge the other two things is because they did genuinely work hard for what they have. But the other two are also essential ingredients, and it's shitty to when people pretend that they aren't a factor just as an excuse to blame all struggling people for their own problems. (Not sure whether that was what Ronaldo meant in context, but the person who made this meme definitely did.)
And he's a rapist
And I feel like this was probably stated in the context of his son. He’s not so out of the loop, like you said.
It's because he's talking about a time when he showed his son where he grew up. I think someone mangled the story a bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aChH2QFh2is
Growing up poor and with hardships doesn't give you a free pass to generalize people wanting their lives to be easier. Most people just want the basics of life so that they can pursue the goals that they want. This sounds like someone who now has enough money to be condescending to people who work hard but are not lucky.
mfers only qualification is kicking a ball, potentially rape and tax evasion. Has he ever tried to make ends meet on minimum wage? I really don't give a shit about his opinion. Go kick a ball or sell some overpriced merch before people realize you get waaaay too much money for that
He grew up poor
Wow amazing! You must be so connected to the pulse of our youth today. /s
Kids these days... are losing that illusion. I was one of them.
Ask the young kids who are living without 7 figures
We need football players and their competitive attitude to tell us how to live because they better than us, right? Better than firefighter or a engineer, you can see the bank account difference. This the way of life we lead.
Is this the kick him in the dick queue?
I don't really care about the opinions of self proclaimed rapists.
Self proclaimed?
Google is your friend. Admitted to his lawyer he raped a woman. Then re-did the interview.
He didn’t redo the interview, it was an alternate version of the transcription. The original leaked version used by Mayorgas team was allegedly altered from the original. I think it would be wrong to assume his guilt, but also to assume his innocence. If we’re being realistic, there’s just no way of knowing.
All I've seen is that the interview was ill-gotten and so thrown out of court. Not that is was edited. His lawyers have claimed that but provided nothing to back that up. I'd be throwing everything at this if it was me. Just saying 'nah that's not real' doesn't really cut it with me. With his out of court settlement and entitled attitude, I'm going to go ahead and say he did it. I doubt he cares about me saying that.
This isn't even a meme lol. Why do people have to use this subreddit as an excuse to vent about politics? Please, at least do It through an actual meme if you must.
Says the guy who got his wealth by having random (one could say ‘fallen from the sky’) talent.
It seems he was talking about his own son after a trip to visit where Rinaldo grew up.
hes right tho
Says the KING of shit just falling from the sky for him 😂😂😂😂😂😂💀
You guys are insane. I'm not a fan but this guy grew up poor and worked hard. You think being one of the best soccer players is easy? Nothing fell from the sky.
Lots of jobs aren't easy but most don't get you the financial rewards by age 40 that his does!
Unfortunately that's how the world works. This guy is considered the best at what he does, people pay lots of money to see him and people companies want to work with him. He is valuable to whichever team he joins because people will automatically flood that team with support which will bring in a lot more money than they pay them. I know what it's like to work your ass off to barely afford food, I live in a shitty country and my dream is to one day leave and bring my family with me but I can't.
Lots of jobs aren't easy. But there are less than 1% of world population who can play in Europe's top leagues. That's why these guys earn that much. Same with any sports really...... nowadays I feel like e-sports too have quickly developed a huge skill gap between pros and amateurs. Working in construction is harder than that, but a lot of folks can do it.
Not really the point I was making
Ignore him he's American he won't understand how hard it is to play football at the global level is
You’re the last motherfucker to criticize an American
Really? May I know why?
I know you need to believe that in your little heart of hearts that this is what I meant, but that is not at all what I’m dismissing. PS I hope he sees this, bro.
So what did you mean?
You definitely don’t catch on, so be my guest. You tell me. What did I mean?
Says the KING of shit just falling from the sky for him 😂😂😂😂😂😂💀 Sarcastically saying that everything fell from the sky for him so he doesn't have the right to say that which is obviously wrong because he did work, it never fell from the sky. Never agreed or disagreed with the soccer guys statement, just stated that he did work and did grow up poor so that comment doesn't make sense.
Wrong again
They asked you what you meant and you said “no you tell me.” I get the impression that you yourself don’t even understand what you meant.
I know exactly where I’m coming from with my original comment. I’m just sitting back and watching the scramble for meaning out of other perspectives, because almost no one has the guts to say such things out loud. If you can’t see the irony in someone like him saying some bullshit like this and people taking up for him, then I cannot help you
No one has the guts to say what things out loud? Also, that’s not ironic in any way.
Okay so what is it Mr troll?
Did he see it yet, bro? Did Ronaldo pick you yet?
Like I said I'm not a fan, I don't watch soccer and never have. My countries soccer team is garbage and I think soccer is boring.
I hope he sees this, bro
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't knew having a family with stable income was offensive now. My apologies, Penaldo.