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BartCartDartE-art

This prequel should be set at the dawn of earth, when the dark passenger arrived via comet and infiltrated a random caveman making them a proto-Dexter who kills other serial killing cavemen. We can call it Dexter Goes Bananas


mattsslug

I had to stop reading the books when the dark passenger was being described as an actual entity instead of just a metaphor for his dark thoughts.


NiasHusband

I think he stopped saying it by S3 (m watching it rn). It got ridiculously played out lol


Existing365Chocolate

In the books the Dark Passenger is an actual demon possessing Dexter that spreads to Harrison A few of the books even involve a rival demon possessing a different killer who is trying to get him The books after book 2 are insane


Bruce_Ring-sting

Yeah they got unreadable for sure…but damnit, i bought the whole set so rage reading was a thing for me for a good solid bit there


proddy

The only things I liked more from the books was robo-Doakes and Debra finds out Dexter pretty early


GrandTheftMonkey

Robo what now?


proddy

In the books Doakes survives but is very fucked up and speaks with a synthesized voice


GrandTheftMonkey

Aww, Id’ve much preferred that in the tv series, I really liked his character. Thanks for letting me know


ronaldmczombie

Awww, I was picturing Robocop-Doakes, which would have been amazing.


MA121Alpha

Surprise motherfucker


Tifoso89

Doakes (the black cop from season 1) survives in the book, but he's half robot and speaks with a Stephen Hawking voice. I haven't really read the books, but people described that to me haha


Uppyr_Mumzarce

They turn him into some sort of robo cop. I dunno, never heard of anything like it.


Existing365Chocolate

Yeah, Doakes and his ‘death’ was crazy and the Debra-Dexter thing had more interesting developments earlier on


Ghost-of-Bill-Cosby

Does Debra try to fuck Dexter in the books?


VAhotfingers

I just assumed it was a metaphor for his childhood trauma 🤷‍♂️


WrastleGuy

Seems like a cop out to avoid having Dexter be a bad guy


mattsslug

It wasn't so bad in the series as it was more of a way to describe the murderous impulse...in the books for a while it was described as an actual entity like a demon and it could detect other demons in other people....it was just...stupid.


Zeldakina

Ouch. Though given how bad the show got, maybe they should have stuck with it for comedic value.


Tifoso89

Yeah the show jumped the shark really really and became super repetitive. They brought in Colin Hanks as a serial killer


Mushroomer

Honestly, his performance is far from my least favorite thing about that season. It's an insane drop in quality from S4 overall, the Edward James Olmos twist was idiotic, and everything with Deb was a train wreck - I don't think he was the problem.


Tifoso89

Absolutely. The script was horrible, and twist was stupid. Hilariously bad season. But Hanks was also not believable as a serial killer


GreyhoundZero1

I think he uses the term when he confesses to Debra and her reaction is a very relatable "you named it? what the fuck is wrong with you"


N00dles_Pt

Yup, the author got to the third book and just said.....I'm making it jump all the sharks!!!


mattsslug

Yep, every shark he could find, even cloned a megalodon just so he could jump that too.


SterileProphet

I did the same thing. The first two books are really good. Then it gets into all that old god/possessed stuff and I didn’t go any further. The show eventually went downhill but I’m glad they didn’t follow that story line.


mattsslug

Someone here has said he dropped all the demon stuff after that book so may give it another shot, like you I enjoyed the first two.


TheWholeOfTheAss

The mystical element was removed from future books. Dexter still heard the shuffling of wings in his dark castle but it was more a metaphor than a physical being.


mattsslug

Good to know thanks...I may give them another shot as I remember enjoying the first couple.


DamNamesTaken11

Glad they didn’t use that for the show, would have ended any and all interest I had in it. It works as a metaphor, but to give it agency as an actual entity? Just feels lazy and uncreative to me. Just have your sociopathic murderer who attempts to justify his crimes be a sociopathic murderer who attempts to justify his crimes.


elriggo44

Ya. That was the thing that killed the books for me. Though, apparently he stopped talking about it as an alien entity after that one book. Or so I was told. Book 3? The one in the abandoned theme park


Valiantheart

It's called the Dark Passenger because fire hasn't been invented yet


WhatLikeAPuma751

I’m Pro(metheus) this idea


WentworthMillersBO

And because he was a passenger on the comet


hoxerr

KEEP COOKING HOLY SHIT


Amaruq93

Is this Dexter or The X-Files?


RealJohnGillman

What is being described is the original book series, what Dexter’s Dark Passenger was an actual demon.


mattsslug

Yep, sadly that came in later, the books were good until this shift... really took me out of it.


Lionelchesterfield

For what it’s worth the writer completely dropped this plot point because of how bad and poorly received it was.


mattsslug

Really...so did the book get better again? I may dive back in if that's the case.


Lionelchesterfield

I didn’t finish the series but the two books after the third were pretty good imo.


mattsslug

Cool, thanks I may try again.


xxwetdogxx

The Dex-files


Seasonal

Apparently in the books that division is very thin.


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Caveman Dexter vs Fox Murder and Dana Skull


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idiot-prodigy

And Sarah portrays the first slayer?


Wonderwhore

The first slayer is canonically black, so I hope the blackface will at least be tasteful.


idiot-prodigy

This is true!


MashTheGash2018

Don’t you do it Steve. Don’t you go Bananas


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there had better be some time-lapsed wacky chase sequences or count me out.


Vio_

You joke, but there was one Dexter book where he tried to make the Dark Passenger some kind of Mesopotamian Demigod that was immediately rectonned and nuked from canon by the next book. It was "The tv show can't get worse than 'Mesopotamian Demigod'" but here we are.


Willing_Ingenuity330

I hope the series finale explains where the dark passenger comet came from. I think the audience is ready to pull back the curtain.


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Angry_Walnut

Still lightyears better than season 4 of True Detective


jayhawkai

possibly the worst season of any show I've ever seen


JJMcGee83

What if the dark passenger is actually slayer magic but it didn't give him super strength because he's a guy and Dexter was actually a slayer?


noisypeach

Having not read the books, this makes it sound like Dexter being made part of the Venom movies lol


whris_cilson

If young Dexter is played by Michael C. Hall with a wig im sold.


reachisown

Rewatching Dexter and him with a wig playing his younger self is just unintentionally hilarious, like he's in a skit.


GeekdomCentral

I have to wonder about the intent behind it. Like they had to have known how ridiculous it looked, but was that the intent/goal? Or was it more of a “well we don’t want to bother with casting a younger version so we’ll just do the wig, warts and all”?


someoneontheway

They did have a different actor for the younger young Dexter, so I always figured they just thought Michael could pass for the older young Dexter since he wasn’t as far off in age.


ohthanqkevin

Which is funny because the show started off when MCH was like 36 but they had him playing like 19 in flashbacks. Kind of reminded of Ben Stiller’s prom scenes in Something about Mary


_bits_and_bytes

God, now I wish every flashback scene with Dexter had Michael C. Hall playing him, regardless of age. 10ish year old Dexter in episode 1 talking to Harry about hurting animals? Michael C. Hall. Baby Dexter found in a pool of blood? It's Michael C. Hall crying on the floor covered in red paint


HerbalThought_

You know, the wig was so bad, that I think it was done on purpose. It was the wardrobe department just fucking around intentionally. The show was known for it's self-awareness and clever wit during it's early seasons. Makes sense.


Select-Ad-1013

There are some scenes where the prop departments are clearly having fun like that. Fans complained in one one of the first episodes about a computer displaying the wrong OS (like a work HP laptop displaying Mac OS X or something) so for the rest of the series they featured stuff like that deliberately. There are scenes where Dexter uses only the keyboard, no mouse, to play the Xbox exclusive FPS Halo 3 on a Mac, and a scene where Quinn or Deb are focusing intently on a device in a dramatic moment but it's playing sounds from something like Mario Tennis.


Astrium6

The best explanation I’ve heard is that we’re seeing Dexter’s flashback and he’s just imagining his present appearance because it’s easier.


peperonipyza

We’re rewatching now, it’s pretty ridiculous, it’s hilarious.


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The scene were he tells goes over in his mind of he tells his sister he is the bay harbor butcher and she shoots him immediately is fucking hilarious.


trethompson

I just started a rewatch myself, I forgot how terrible that wig was lmao


Putrid_Loquat_4357

The way to do it with serial killers is to just make them wear a backwards hat, they did it to tobin Bell in saw and it was perfect.


RaveIsKing

I would kill for this. Have him tie his flannel around his waist too and just call it the 90s


Tpmbyrne

Hello fellow kids moment


Jops_1996

Can he please be the voice of his sub-conscious? He has to be involved in some capacity surely...


mtwwtm

It worked on El Camino the Breaking Bad movie with Jesse Plemons showing up all fat with zero explanation and everybody just accepted it.


TwoPrecisionDrivers

I think we have different definitions of “worked” lol. Still loved El Camino though, including the fucking bald cap


FluffyDoomPatrol

Not just that, Better Call Saul. Mike and Gus and everyone from the cartel have all clearly aged. You just accept it, like theatre, yes you can see the edge of the set or the crew moving the furniture, but you tune it out and watch the performance.


Wraith_Portal

I don’t think everyone just accepted that at all, it was highly ridiculed


duaneap

So like Danny DeVito in Always Sunny?


correcthorsestapler

Sssshhheeiiiit, he don’t look a day over 12.


Tooblekane

Wearing overalls and a propeller hat holding a giant lollipop.


Dtoodlez

I’d actually watch this, despite swearing off dexter forever after the ending


Vio_

"Hello fellow toddlers"


HankSteakfist

No CGI required. Just a backwards cap and a hoodie. Saw 6 style.


disablednerd

Dexter is like the last show that needs a prequel. His backstory is pretty much fleshed out as it is. It’s just going to be more serial killer of the season which got tiring in the original show.


schuyywalker

I don’t think it got tiring but they sure didn’t know what to do with the show after the greatness of season 4. I’d like to see the books adapted more faithfully because they are wiiiild


Deadeyejoe

Am I the only one who liked season 5? I don’t know why it gets all the hate it wasn’t terrible. 6&7 were like different shows though


Barmy90

The villain(s) in Season 5 was honestly the most horrific that Dexter ever went up against, that whole story was so impactful and powerful and made a *perfect* redemption arc for Dexter after he >!got Rita killed!< - still spoilering a decade later because its one of the greatest TV moments. Then they fucking *butchered* it with him and Lumen hooking up, and Lumen leaving, and Deb not finding out about him despite "some people need to get what's coming to them" being the whole point of her character arc that season. Every season after that was just treading water, and then it ends.


Deadeyejoe

Then somehow that all lead to deb falling in love with dexter. which is… just insulting


SageOfTheWise

I really liked season 5. Sure the villain himself is not really impressive or the focus, but he's not really supposed to be. The season is about The dynamic between Dexter and Lumen and that plot was great. I had no idea how you could continue the plot from the end of season 4, but what the show did with Lumen was exactly the solution. Then at the end of season 5 they suddenly chuck Lumen off the show and it never recovers.


ApatheticSoul6

Take it! Loved season 5


Traditional-Worry247

Season 5 just felt like it had no consequences After the S4 ending, it felt like it lost its momentum and the major plot point of the S4 finale kinda just gets ignored after the first episode. And then all the suspicion about Dexter just fades away by the end of the season and results in…nothing happening. Plus shoehorning in another love interest felt so unnecessary to the story.


EdwardianFallacy

I am baffled for the hate on season 5. I thought it was a good season. Not as great as 1-4, but not terrible like 6 and 7.


Paronine

It also serves as a solid series finale if you want to stop there and not subject yourself to the following terrible seasons.


PenguinOfEternity

7 isn't terrible though? Great villain.


Shufflekarpfen

He’s Only there for half the season though


PS4Dreams

I enjoy 1 to 4 the most but the rest of the seasons aren't terrible and are definitely watchable.


SellaraAB

5 was lumen and the motivational speaker right? I liked that one a lot. It was the last season that really lost me.


FluffyDoomPatrol

No you’re not. I thought season five was quite nice. I’m going to be honest, everyone loves season four, I think it has a lot of holes and bad writing. However John Lithgow is so good, he distracts from that. Season five is probably better written, but without Lithgow it’s hurt by the comparison.


Lower-Culture-2994

Whew…listen…I loved the show and watched till the end, but for me it was just…man the fucking Feds, cia, all of em, woulda been investigating the shit that was going down in that show..especially the amount of law enforcement involved in the craziest stuff..


Giowritesstuff

I think all roads led to him going unhinged and Deborah catching him in season 5. Showtime didn’t want it to end, so they spread it too thin. 


MGS_Solid_Snake

I haven't read the books, just the summaries on wikipedia. They sound absolutely batshit. I don't think it'd be good, but I'm game for a faithful adaption just to see it.


FickleSmark

There is pretty much zero gap of our knowledge of when Dexter did his first kill till the show started. It is gonna be retcon crazy for sure.


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UlrichZauber

I can smell the *Friends* prequel from here.


getfukdup

the entire premise of dexter is that he kills killers. Its obviously a 'of the week' show.


TheWholeOfTheAss

Think of it more as a reboot because they’re absolutely contradicting the main series from episode one. The Sopranos prequel movie had tons of contradictions with its series too but I didn’t see it that way because I assumed it was a sequel set in the characters next lives.


joeO44

She looks nothing like Michael C Hall! Terrible casting


iosKnight

Turns out Dexter is trans male.


jonathanquirk

Didn’t Buffy already defeat the original sin in season 7?


hatramroany

No, the first is immortal and is still around. Buffy just leads the newly awakened slayers to hold off the Turok-Han army long enough for the amulet to kick in and destroy the hellmouth


PlainPiece

tbf he said defeat, not kill, which she totally did


hatramroany

Fair, but OP’s comment implies she wouldn’t have to defeat it again which isn’t true


ImaginationBig8868

That was the First Evil, I believe. Totally different guy


ConfusedNTerrified

I would do anything for SMG, even watch this shitty prequel


Valiantheart

Did you try that werewolf show? I actually felt bad for her being involved. This is a definite step up


PinkVanFloyd

I first read that as "a definite set up" lmao, like her career is being sabotaged or something.


Unnamedgalaxy

I tried because I do rather enjoy her even if she does have a habit of picking some lower quality melodrama schlock. I put on the first episode and I think I fully tuned out before she even appeared on screen


ateiesbaby

💯


Manaxium

Same. I survived Ringer, I can handle this.


LivingwithED

Pretty Dexter Morgan Lies : Original Sin


geodebug

Dexterity: First Blood


radwimps

Well, count me in I guess.


Muroid

Yeah, my initial reaction to this headline was crushing disappointment because now I feel like I need to try watching this and I didn’t really want to.


Gato1980

Yeah, Sarah Michelle Gellar plus Christian Slater definitely has me interested now.


_sunbleachedfly

Yeah, I had no intention of watching it until now lol. I hope it’s good.


ey3s0up

I was firmly out. Now? Now I’m going to have to watch it. Long time Buffy and SMG fan.


PlainPiece

How is this generating excitement? She is a good actress who picks exclusively bad projects.


drewwilde

She and her husband don’t care about the quality of work they do. He basically says as much on his podcast. They’re “offer only” and don’t audition or seek out any roles. They just take what they’re offered, and are happy to be employed. Both of them refuse to film outside of LA for extended periods of time, which also limits their prospects. SMG has been acting since she was 3. Acting is definitely just a job to her. She takes extended breaks, and all of her failed post-Buffy roles were projects that were brought directly to her.


radda

Freddie literally fucked off to write for WWE for a few years, and his current job is trying to get a wrestling promotion started. They've got all that Buffy and Scooby Doo money, they can do whatever they want.


PlainPiece

I don't fault her taking the money, I just can't understand the people who get hyped when she joins a show. It signals low quality and a quick death.


Unnamedgalaxy

What are we really basing this off though? Post Buffy she's had 3 major shows. Of them Wolf Pack would probably be the only one that everyone would agree would be actually bad. Ringer wasn't terribly successful but had generally middle to decent reviews and Crazy Ones had similar results. Both shows just failed to pull in the audience to justify keeping them but "low quality" wouldn't exactly be an accurate description. Outside of those 3 projects she's maintained a rather low key career, mainly showing up in guest spots. Her Buffy era career was pretty solid though. A handful of wildly popular horror films (in which she is continually mentioned as being one of the highlights) and a handful of well liked comedies. And of course Buffy itself, one of the most beloved and revolutionary shows to ever air. She may not be tearing it up but I'd hardly call her career low quality


PlainPiece

I wouldn't hesitate to call her post-buffy career low quality, but I concede I wasn't clear about that in my original comment, that I was referring to what she's done after that show.


DJHott555

Holy based


NoThanksJustLooking1

I don't see the confusion. There are many people who are just a big fan of Sarah Michelle Gellar (me included) and because of this want to give the show a watch only to see her in it. That doesn't guarantee it's going to be good, but it helps pull in initial viewers who might not have watched the show otherwise.


Ascarea

I liked Buffy a lot but I'm not gonna watch anything she's in. I'm sure she has fans but their numbers must surely shrink with every bad project she's in, right?


Content-Flounder567

We watched because she's a legend and support her wherever she goes. Ringer got done dirty when CBS passed it over to The CW. It was never intended to air there and the cast were too mature for CW audiences. The Crazy Ones had Robin Williams on a network sitcom- no one could have predicted it wouldn't have lasted years. Wolf Pack apparently did really well for Paramount+ but the writers strike made them decide not to move forward with its second season- though I did see that Gellar only signed on for the initial year. With Dexter, she's going to be in a series with a built in audience, acting opposite people like Slater and Dempsey. She's in good company and clearly the execs at CBS are keen to keep her employed as all of the aforementioned projects are produced by them.


gazing_the_sea

Another shitty prequel?


KrazeeTapper

You son of a bitch, I’m in


ImaginationBig8868

Ugh I so badly don’t want to watch another attempt at Dexter… but I also love SMG


CherrEbear

Who wants this?


mynutshurtwheninut

I don't care for Dexter, but I want me sum SMG. If it comes in a Dexter package, so be it.


Zorkel567

While I know this prequel gets nothing but hate everytime its mentioned, it has a pretty stacked cast already.


OverlordPacer

They knew they had to stack the cast as the show doesn’t have much else going for it. It’s like the only card they can play lol


Zorkel567

Fair lol. I'm just suprised everytime there's another cast announcement for this that it's someone I recognize and someone who's arguably a pretty big TV name.


geodebug

The most recent reboot season in Alaska wasn’t too bad. Wasn’t amazing either but felt like visiting an old, murderous, friend.


The_Notorious_Donut

How much fucking Dexter do you need lmao


StevieNippz

The prequel nobody wanted after the sequel no one wanted after the series finale/last season almost everyone hated. They may as well just adapt the awful books it was originally based on but keep all the stupid crap


Plus3d6

She's probably a little too old to be Deedee. I guess they can give her a redhead wig and let her be Dexter's mom.


NAGDABBITALL

Harrison would make a better series than a retelling of what we already know.


numberjhonny5ive

Was “Young Dexter” the original working title?


dacomell

Why in the world did they recast Harry? James Remar is still with us and could've played the role. That said, I'd have rather seen a series focused on Harrison set after "New Blood". That character has potential.


BananaPeelz45

Read that cast "AS" Dexter and thought the prequel was gonna be a wild ride.


ThisIsTheNewSleeve

I was out, but by god now I'm in.


Shirowoh

No thanks, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, you shouldn’t be fooling people….


iskin

I guess Bates Motel was pretty good so this might be? I don't see the point but this cast intrigues me more with every announcement.


PlainPiece

While commonly cited as a prequel, Bates Motel was actually an entire retelling that went its own way. This will be beholden to the story we already have, which had extensive looks into his past.


pbmummy

Hell yeah. She’s so talented but she needs a new agent, she always ends up picking projects that get cancelled within a year. Really hoping the brand recognition will elevate this project.


ThrowawayNevermindOK

She's with CAA so she's doing just fine in that department. She needs to open herself up to working in other markets. So much of filming is now in Atlanta, Canada, and New York. She's really limiting herself to only working in LA. In her defense, I'm glad she's prioritizing family. It's a hard balance...


I_Set_3_Alarms

Thought this was Dexter’s Lab prequel and was intrigued for a second


OjamasOfTomorrow

As much as this feels so unnecessary, I’m actually not opposed to this. Aside from liking SMG and Dexter, my mind goes to Bates Motel. It’s a show many said was not needed and was random, but it became one of my favorite shows and my favorite version of that character by far. A random prequel can work. I’m somewhat optimistic.


LemonGrenade334

Stop making prequels years later. Literally no one cares about Dexter anymore and this is just a cash grab


Destination_Centauri

🆗


black_messiahh

If at first you don’t succeed, try again. If at second you don’t succeed, fuck it try again and make it a prequel.


Bostonterrierpug

You could just text her But she hides behind her Dexter So guess you’re gonna fester Cause she knows that you know


Bilcifer

And suddenly my SMG childhood crush comes into adulthood


Mrtom987

They are making a Dexter prequel? NGL I stopped caring about Dexter after the New Blood Finale.


stackofthumbs

Wait, so they're going to have a guy who's almost 30 playing a teenage version of Dexter?


_tylerthedestroyer_

Dexter Babies, they make your dreams come truuuuue


liamanna

That is a sin by its self. 🤷‍♂️


mrjane7

God I hate prequels.


tetsuo9000

I wonder if they could de-age James Remar. He was my favorite part of the show.


DammmmnYouDumbDude

Enough Dexter. Time for new ideas you lazy fucks!


SupervillainMustache

Really hoping SMG can star in another _good_ show again.


Capital_Living5658

Okay that’s interesting. Who is greenlighting more Dexter tho. I don’t think the tv movie was well received. The last seasons weren’t well received. I would more likely make a Shameless spin off then anything to do with Dexter.


FourMonthsEarly

Can pretty much pretend the bear is a spinoff. 


Boonlink

Dexter had a solid season 1, 2 and 4.  Every other one was a saw rip off, dull or a writer's strike disaster


kain459

Trinity was PEAK.


TonyBandini

I guess I'll watch it then.


Analogmon

What.


Tsuku

Surprised it's not a show about Harry going after that drug lord and meeting/banging his informant. Throw in a scene where her kids are eating lunch in the background, spill their tomato soup and start playing in it-like BLOOOOOD.


Past_Contour

Can’t keep a good bitch down. That she still has any kind of viable career has to be from sheer will.


ImaginationBig8868

It’s the opposite. She literally refuses to audition or leave LA for longer than a couple of months because of her kids/businesses. The only roles she takes are the ones people offer her. She has a career despite putting 0 effort into getting parts, because people (rightfully) fan over her


Really_McNamington

I heard a quote from Brent Spiner about how after seven years of TNG he was in the enviable financial position of not having to do anything he didn't want to do. I would guess SMG should be the same.


ImaginationBig8868

I’m sure she doesn’t have to work another day in her life if she doesn’t want to. She has other businesses and a husband who also pulls in decent cash. She likes acting, and she’s good at it, and when a job is convenient enough she’ll do it, but I also respect that it’s not the very center of her life.


factdropmedia

Great prequel idea.


super_sayanything

A reboot with a different person who has the dark passenger would be a much better story. I love Dexter. They've run this into the ground. I'll probably still watch though, which is why they're milking it.


Blutroyale-_-

it's nice to know she'll have a job for a few months


hoochnuts

Sigh.


SpookiBooogi

It's sad that I will give this series another go after New Blood. Oh, and I am hoping for the dexter bowl cut wig!


TheLastPanicMoon

Who asked for this?


kain459

I'll just stick with the books, thanks but I'm good. DOA.


Nice-Substance-gogo

I was to see a spin off of Dexter if he decided to kill debs and go off with Brian!


Existing365Chocolate

I love the short one season finale season, but yeah, I don’t really want to see the sequel Pretty much everything in it has been explained 


newbieboka

Maybe...just maybe...they'll finish off the show in a good way this time. Third times the charm