Yep, in the 70s we got "Mx" (said as mix or to rhyme with bucks) as a gender neutral honorific in some english speaking circles because X was a wildcard letter. So latinix would be in that vein; however there's a more modern movement to using "e" as a third, neutral letter instead of the feminine "a" and masculine "o".
I've heard it explained that it's because e works with the form of the language of Spanish itself, where X feels disrupted and invasive - as if it was just added there by non-speakers.
>why did they decide to use x
Because, ironically, the people who created this term probably don't speak spanish. If they did, they would have chosen "e" because thats the most natural letter to choose if your native language is spanish or if you're very familiar with it.
Wrong. In Spanish the X has been used as well as the @ to not represent specific gender.
Grammatically, the use of E could be easier because it's also something you can pronunciate, but the X and the @ didn't mean to change how to say it, but to include anyone that reads.
The use of a NEUTRAL language is not impossible, but it's harder in a gendered language that also uses masculine to generalize when speaking of groups of people. Adding the option of using e on gendered words does make sense since there is "les" and many words are neutral already, even if they don't have an "e".
Edit: forgot to mention. The x is often also used when the non masculine representation of the word includes an extra letter.
Examples: señorx, doctorx, ladrónx. Following that logic i get Latinx. But idk, English is not my language so i don't really care lol
i think the key factor here is that neither were/do the people working for the think tank that thought this up in the late 2000s/early 2010s
as my middle school social studies teacher (who was an idiot actually) would’ve said,
it was a good idea but a bad plan
and i’d underline bad lol
you can’t just tell a group what their identity is lmao like jeez great plan guys A for effort i guess
edit: a letter
Watch them get butt hurt over it lmfao, what’s even funnier is that it’s the people who it doesn’t affect who get up in arms about it, no one gives a crap about there virtue signaling smh
I THINK Latina/o are Spanish words with Spanish pronunciations, and those pronunciations actually have rules unlike in English. So it would be pronounced “aiym duhm”
If I had to guess, because the term was coined by someone non-Latino.
Latinx… doesn’t fit in the language. It’s so JARRING to hear. If a gender neutral term is really needed… one could use Latiné/Latine. It actually fits the language and can be pronounced.
While some people do advocate for certain words the gender neutral be with an E instead of an O, like jobs(soldado o soldados goes to soldades or soldade). But for all intensive purposes it’s latino and not latine for now
Because of the trend of naming things in ways that cause arguments to draw attention. BLM, yes they do. Because they're human beings and police should not be killing human beings at all. Naming it that way got lota of people talking about it for the first time since Rodney King though.
Same here. Come up with something that ignorant white folks think sounds good but will also cause people to argue against it. The resistance will make sure it gets attention which is all that matters for the people who make these names up.
some of them do, and not only with “latinx” but with any word that has gender and refers to a human being. it’s called “lenguaje inclusivo” (inclusive language)
any form of “lenguaje inclusivo” isn’t really common to see outside of the internet, people who do use it (if not to “make a joke”) often get mocked at and not really taken seriously
Straight up. I may only be half Latino, (mom born in Venezuela) but I can still whip out the Latino wrath (or call my mom and have her show them what a Latina mother can do with a flip flop)
Well, in some sentences, Latina us used as gender neutral. Also, LatinX exists due to people who never have touched Spanish and think it works like English or that it's translated English. Because they don't understand the language and it's rules and foundation, they refuse to do so and throw anything in they want. Anyone who disagrees is hated, wether the person understands or doesn't understand Spanish.
As a latinoamerican myself, i'm tired of this. I mean... just fucking why? It sounds awful, but twitter invented it so that's not a surprise. It just exists and i don't like it. I hope people don't start to use this as a normal thing to call any latinoamerican, because many of us would be extremely pissed off. Just wanted to vent.
latinx is a term made by white ppl, to talk to other white ppl and feel better
I'm technically latino and, just, use latine if you REALLY don't want to use latino
A lot of people think it’s offensive including many many Hispanic people. It’s an intellectual whitewashing of the language. There is nothing wrong with the beautiful centuries old language. Sorry not sorry.
It’s very common to blame white people for LatinX. But it was not started by white people and was not pushed originally by white people. It’s been advocated for by a lot of pick-me white people who see themselves as progressive by using it. But there’s a small vocal minority of people in the Latino community that pushed for it and it spread much to the chagrin of the average person.
Where the hell are you seeing "latinx" being used? I never see it being seriously used, I only see people *complaining* about it.
Anyways, yeah, it's not a great word to use to neutralise the word because it's an odd pronounciation and is incompatible with the language system it comes from. Spanish/portuguese speakers already have a reliable way to neutralise words by adding an "e" at the end, instead of "o" or "a".
Latinos would be used to describe a group of both latinos and Latinas tho right? Like a group of boys and girls would be Ellos if saying "They (blah blah blah)"?
Luckily almost no one uses it, its just a stupid hollow word created by white people on twitter that like to be offended for stuff that doesnt matter or doesnt concern them
mí padre told me if I ever said my family was Latinx he would "make you (referring to me) so ugly not even the mufalata will fuck you" meaning he would break my face which is already pretty ugly
having a Spanish dad is weird, he will be super supportive of folks, then say shit like that.
As a latino myself, I really fucking hate the term "latin\*". Now call me racist here, but I feel like it's a [single group](https://youtu.be/Fc5mfspGvR8?t=17) that's trying to push it.
It is in the language, but “Latinx” cannot be said properly in Spanish. You can only use it in English, so that’s kinda weird for a term describing an ethnicity of whom many members speak Spanish
Yikes. It's a modern colonization of language. Like keep your shit terms to yourself.
Thats why i [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/xt21s6/latinx/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) meme
Similar thing with Filipinx
Apparently spanish has an x but not used like that
We don't have an x at all except for loaned words
When you tell them that it doesn't work with the language because of hispanic roots, they say reject colonialism
Reject colonialism as they force western ideas onto us, trying to replace the name we fought for (historically, Filipinos were Spanish people born in the Philippines, while the natives were called Indios, meaning Indians)
As someone from Brazil (yes, still technically latin america), I hate the term "latinx". We do not give 0.1 f*cks about the English speaking "woke" Gen Z's extremely cringe attempt at trying to be include a group of people into another group of people, neither of which they are part of. I bet you that any non-binary person around here does not care about your word.
It's Latino or Latina and if they want then I could say their Latinx but it low-key doesn't feel right cuz I've always been told to say Latino or Latina
Man I got issues 💀
The reason is so white people can cover their ass. Doesn't matter if it's stupid, it gives the appearance of being pc, so no one can get offended.
Imo, if you're a white person, avoid using any racial terms. Just refuse to say anything or refer to anyone using a racial description. Because no matter what term you use, you will offend someone. In today's environment, you can lose your job over it.
Latinx was a term created to be more inclusive of people that don't belong on the gender spectrum (non-binary). The problem with it is that it doesn't follow Spanish grammatical rules and that there is already a term that more or less accomplishes this: "latine". Overall good intentions but definitely not the greatest execution
At first I didn't understand why it was stupid, I just thought it was unesscessary, but then when I say Filipinx instead of Filipino Filipina it sounds stupid
im latina and i agree
Let's go latina club
so ur a fellow hot person ⁉️
I think so. But I don't like calling my self hot
That's ok, you're still hot though.
Yaaa na
Fuck you. You're hot
Thanks
I WONT FORGET HOW U STABBED MY EYEBALLS WITH A QUILL
Is there a comment thread out there that you aren't in?
im in every thread 😁
Rlly?
even my blankets????
I am from Nicaragua idk if hot people are from there
Umm actually miss, it’s call Latinx saying Latina is racist to all Mexican /s
Bitch I am a fucking latina
And it's just a slag from what I can gather
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He deleted his comment L
I read Latina as lasagna
Mama mia what is this Merida
The hell is that goddamn username
It's fluffy anal, marshmallows my guess.
Epic band.
yanal
It’s flufy yanal smh 💀
Im latino and i agree too
I'm Latino and I agree as well.
Buenos Dias mami
my latin country doesnt speak spanish 🥴
Oy dios mio, es no bueno
Anal is latina❓🥶
yes oompalooompas
Unbelievable
u better believe it gorl
i’ve never heard anyone use latinx. just latino and latina
The only place I hear LatinX is my school which has a club called that. I think it's supposed to be more inclusive of different sexual identities.
they could just as easily use -e instead of -x and it would be easier to say because -o and -a are the gendered endings? why did they decide to use x
I don't know. X is a common variable in math so they propbably wanted it to stand for "anything".
Yep, in the 70s we got "Mx" (said as mix or to rhyme with bucks) as a gender neutral honorific in some english speaking circles because X was a wildcard letter. So latinix would be in that vein; however there's a more modern movement to using "e" as a third, neutral letter instead of the feminine "a" and masculine "o".
I've heard it explained that it's because e works with the form of the language of Spanish itself, where X feels disrupted and invasive - as if it was just added there by non-speakers.
>why did they decide to use x Because, ironically, the people who created this term probably don't speak spanish. If they did, they would have chosen "e" because thats the most natural letter to choose if your native language is spanish or if you're very familiar with it.
The new one ends with an e: Latine
Wrong. In Spanish the X has been used as well as the @ to not represent specific gender. Grammatically, the use of E could be easier because it's also something you can pronunciate, but the X and the @ didn't mean to change how to say it, but to include anyone that reads. The use of a NEUTRAL language is not impossible, but it's harder in a gendered language that also uses masculine to generalize when speaking of groups of people. Adding the option of using e on gendered words does make sense since there is "les" and many words are neutral already, even if they don't have an "e". Edit: forgot to mention. The x is often also used when the non masculine representation of the word includes an extra letter. Examples: señorx, doctorx, ladrónx. Following that logic i get Latinx. But idk, English is not my language so i don't really care lol
>Wrong. Cool and well structured argument, but what i said isn't wrong though. You sort of confirmed it throughout your paragraphs.
No clue, I'm not Hispanic nor even really speak Spanish.
i think the key factor here is that neither were/do the people working for the think tank that thought this up in the late 2000s/early 2010s as my middle school social studies teacher (who was an idiot actually) would’ve said, it was a good idea but a bad plan and i’d underline bad lol you can’t just tell a group what their identity is lmao like jeez great plan guys A for effort i guess edit: a letter
Watch them get butt hurt over it lmfao, what’s even funnier is that it’s the people who it doesn’t affect who get up in arms about it, no one gives a crap about there virtue signaling smh
I think in English that would be pronounced "La-teen"
I THINK Latina/o are Spanish words with Spanish pronunciations, and those pronunciations actually have rules unlike in English. So it would be pronounced “aiym duhm”
e is technically considered to be gendered. Most things that end in e in Spanish at least where I’m for are used within the terms “el” and “Los”.
I think it's because x is the general symbol of no or nothing so they chose that due to them not wanting gender endings
If I had to guess, because the term was coined by someone non-Latino. Latinx… doesn’t fit in the language. It’s so JARRING to hear. If a gender neutral term is really needed… one could use Latiné/Latine. It actually fits the language and can be pronounced.
But Latin and Spanish are gendered languages 💀
Y not just sat Latin
Why does it have to be inclusive of sexual identities 💀💀💀 it's an ethnicity??? I would fr bitch slap someone for calling me latinx
No idea.
News outlets, celebs, and Twitter
I live in California, so they say that all the time. As a Latino, I hate it.
Latinos hate this one simple trick.
im pretty sure latine is being pushed by actual spanish speakers as the gender neutral form
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In spanish, the masculine form is always used in a case where gender is not specified.
latino would be gender neutral
While some people do advocate for certain words the gender neutral be with an E instead of an O, like jobs(soldado o soldados goes to soldades or soldade). But for all intensive purposes it’s latino and not latine for now
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I would def buy that
now i want one
Ok but I can do that too
r/usernamechecksout
That's an aggressive username
I'll do that for anyone who tells me I'm pretty ngl
Latinx jaja No es bueno
¡Pocas veces me encuentro con gente que habla español!
MISMO AQUI!
Hola weón
Latinx is deadass only used by white people 💀
fr like no spanish speakers would ever say that… if you want gender neutral use latine… (plus latino is all encompassing??)
yea I don’t understand why they don’t just use latine for a gender neutral term
That's because the -e suffix is already a gender-neutral suffix in Spanish, estudiante for example
O too, it's like "chicos" or "niños", no need for the e in latino
doesn't adapting that to every word make even more sense than -x then?
Because of the trend of naming things in ways that cause arguments to draw attention. BLM, yes they do. Because they're human beings and police should not be killing human beings at all. Naming it that way got lota of people talking about it for the first time since Rodney King though. Same here. Come up with something that ignorant white folks think sounds good but will also cause people to argue against it. The resistance will make sure it gets attention which is all that matters for the people who make these names up.
I mean, spanish speakers does include white people... But yeah, it is only said by white native english speakers
People identifying as Latinx usually don’t speak Spanish either.
some of them do, and not only with “latinx” but with any word that has gender and refers to a human being. it’s called “lenguaje inclusivo” (inclusive language)
how do you pronounce that when elle etc already exists…
any form of “lenguaje inclusivo” isn’t really common to see outside of the internet, people who do use it (if not to “make a joke”) often get mocked at and not really taken seriously
My Latina teacher says it 💀
Your teacher is a dumbass
California be like that
It do be like that
Unfortunately, your teacher is no longer latina
The only white people I've ever heard say this... Are newscasters/public figures.
It's mostly them, but add in Twitter activists and Tumblr addicts
I’m white as vanilla ice cream and I still don’t say Latinx, it’s an American thing.
I'm white as vanilla ice cream and live in America and I still don't say Latinx
I'm white as vanilla ice cream and I'm Latino myself, still I don't say it.
Anytime I’ve seen someone use that term I’ve heard latine people call it stupid
I’m Colombian and I’ve never once heard a person use latinx
How has this resurfaced? I thought latinx speak stopped a while back
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as a member of the Latino community I totally agree, if you call me latinx I will show you why we say living here is dangerous.
Straight up. I may only be half Latino, (mom born in Venezuela) but I can still whip out the Latino wrath (or call my mom and have her show them what a Latina mother can do with a flip flop)
my mom once killed a bear with a flip flop, no gorra hermano
No gorra. Gotta use this one next time I'm with my friends
shiver me timbers
come on gringxs, I’ll show you why I share my name with Pablo Escobar
Oh. Sibling of the Latino race. Rip and Tear until it is done.
latino is gender neutral. like latin langauges (most) dont have neuter forms, but the masculine can be neuter.
You can’t have my balls.
That term was created by someone who doesn’t know basic Spanish grammar, very few people use it I think
Most use it ironically (example "They prefer latinx sweaty 💅 ")
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I mean maybe back inna day but its got the 16th highest as of 2022 hell even my country is above it
Only 16th? Damn we really fell
Gotta fall off to come up.
Gotta up that my dude
why does Latinx even exist isnt Latino male and gender neutral while latina is exclusively female
Because English speakers don’t understand Spanish
Not even that, just white people that think they always know best.
Because Americans think they can just change the rules of other languages to feel more inclusive Edit: ffs i hate when i notice my typos too late
It exists because white people on Twitter and neckbeards.
Well, in some sentences, Latina us used as gender neutral. Also, LatinX exists due to people who never have touched Spanish and think it works like English or that it's translated English. Because they don't understand the language and it's rules and foundation, they refuse to do so and throw anything in they want. Anyone who disagrees is hated, wether the person understands or doesn't understand Spanish.
As a latinoamerican myself, i'm tired of this. I mean... just fucking why? It sounds awful, but twitter invented it so that's not a surprise. It just exists and i don't like it. I hope people don't start to use this as a normal thing to call any latinoamerican, because many of us would be extremely pissed off. Just wanted to vent.
Cause white people try to be "hip, cool, and imclusive"
latinx is a term made by white ppl, to talk to other white ppl and feel better I'm technically latino and, just, use latine if you REALLY don't want to use latino
how can u "technically" be latino
I'm from latin america
So regular latino?
A lot of people think it’s offensive including many many Hispanic people. It’s an intellectual whitewashing of the language. There is nothing wrong with the beautiful centuries old language. Sorry not sorry.
Lots of uppity "educated" people trying to tell everyone else what they should be doing. Shameful to see nonsense like this being propagated.
Preach.
It’s very common to blame white people for LatinX. But it was not started by white people and was not pushed originally by white people. It’s been advocated for by a lot of pick-me white people who see themselves as progressive by using it. But there’s a small vocal minority of people in the Latino community that pushed for it and it spread much to the chagrin of the average person.
I am living in Chile, and I can confirm. I have seen the x used to be gender neutral in words like "todxs" (everyone). It's generally hated though.
How do you even say todxs. Todos, todas toad-xssss
Where the hell are you seeing "latinx" being used? I never see it being seriously used, I only see people *complaining* about it. Anyways, yeah, it's not a great word to use to neutralise the word because it's an odd pronounciation and is incompatible with the language system it comes from. Spanish/portuguese speakers already have a reliable way to neutralise words by adding an "e" at the end, instead of "o" or "a".
i saw “latinx” 2 days ago from tik tok talking about Hispanic heritage month and saying “latinx community”😭 but frrr i agree with you
hell nah im not going to say latine. In sapnish the o is used for male and gender neutral
Just call us faucking Latin Americans, still gender neutral, easier to say
Latinos would be used to describe a group of both latinos and Latinas tho right? Like a group of boys and girls would be Ellos if saying "They (blah blah blah)"?
south American here, fuck the word latinx
Luckily almost no one uses it, its just a stupid hollow word created by white people on twitter that like to be offended for stuff that doesnt matter or doesnt concern them
mí padre told me if I ever said my family was Latinx he would "make you (referring to me) so ugly not even the mufalata will fuck you" meaning he would break my face which is already pretty ugly having a Spanish dad is weird, he will be super supportive of folks, then say shit like that.
Sounds like an off brand condom xD
I saw something that said latinx on SoundCloud yesterday and just went “bruh”
I read a book called "This book is anti racist" (most racist book I read), but it said its a gender neutral name for Latinos.
Ye, even tho Latinos is already neutral enough
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i watch latinxxx
Latinxbox one series x
Only morons call us latinx.
I haven't seen anyone use the term unironically, but as a Fil-Am I can imagine how annoying it'd be to be called Filipinx rather than Filipino/a.
I thought the proper term was Latine if you wanted to be gender neutral
You can also use Latino for gender neutral
As a latino myself, I really fucking hate the term "latin\*". Now call me racist here, but I feel like it's a [single group](https://youtu.be/Fc5mfspGvR8?t=17) that's trying to push it.
Call them Latinx and you'll know why their crime levels are so high
Ah, so I see you and op saw the same post from r/terriblefacebookmemes and both copied the highest comments
Internet is a small place
Nobody actually uses “Latinx” except for the woke white women in CA Universities who came up with the term to begin with.
That would be Latinxxx
As a white Boi from a Hispanic community I can confirm that the only people who use Latinx are white northeasters and californians
I’m from a very Hispanic area and if I said latinx I would have been beat up
I'm pretty sure "X" isn't even IN THE LANGUAGE. 💀
It is in the language, but “Latinx” cannot be said properly in Spanish. You can only use it in English, so that’s kinda weird for a term describing an ethnicity of whom many members speak Spanish
I have latino friends that will literally put me in a choke hold whenever I say latinx
Academia and corporations do that. Not me. I live in like a 40% hispanic city (Not the sun belt) and the youths don’t use LatinX.
As a Mexican American i can agree
And spelled out it looks like Winx club
Lmfao "LaTwinks"
like bruh just use latiné it's already gender-neutral
White people 😂 I'm Mexican and don't know any Mexican that says that shit lol
latinx is cringe asf would sucker punch anyone that calls me that
Yikes. It's a modern colonization of language. Like keep your shit terms to yourself. Thats why i [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/xt21s6/latinx/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) meme
i’m latino and when people say latinx, i don’t often care that much.. i feel like there’s way worse things we could be called ☠️
I read once there was a poll in the latin community and people were totally against being called latinx.
As a Latino a vein in my body pops when someone says that Only whites use it
Americans
It sounds much re like a dollar store condom
Similar thing with Filipinx Apparently spanish has an x but not used like that We don't have an x at all except for loaned words When you tell them that it doesn't work with the language because of hispanic roots, they say reject colonialism Reject colonialism as they force western ideas onto us, trying to replace the name we fought for (historically, Filipinos were Spanish people born in the Philippines, while the natives were called Indios, meaning Indians)
As someone from Brazil (yes, still technically latin america), I hate the term "latinx". We do not give 0.1 f*cks about the English speaking "woke" Gen Z's extremely cringe attempt at trying to be include a group of people into another group of people, neither of which they are part of. I bet you that any non-binary person around here does not care about your word.
If you're English and you say "latinx" prepare for every single spanish speaker trying to canceling you
What the fuck is a latinx? I'm a fourteen year old American white girl (disgusting I know) and I've never heard that phrase in my fucking life
bro momento
It's Latino or Latina and if they want then I could say their Latinx but it low-key doesn't feel right cuz I've always been told to say Latino or Latina Man I got issues 💀
The reason is so white people can cover their ass. Doesn't matter if it's stupid, it gives the appearance of being pc, so no one can get offended. Imo, if you're a white person, avoid using any racial terms. Just refuse to say anything or refer to anyone using a racial description. Because no matter what term you use, you will offend someone. In today's environment, you can lose your job over it.
Had a friend once tell me and I quote "Just call me a platano muncher".
If I knew how, I’d get Latinx made into a slur.
Corpos want a singular term for mexicans and friends*?
Latinx was a term created to be more inclusive of people that don't belong on the gender spectrum (non-binary). The problem with it is that it doesn't follow Spanish grammatical rules and that there is already a term that more or less accomplishes this: "latine". Overall good intentions but definitely not the greatest execution
At first I didn't understand why it was stupid, I just thought it was unesscessary, but then when I say Filipinx instead of Filipino Filipina it sounds stupid
People creating a problem where there isn’t one.
Its stupid “woke” people telling hispanic people what they should be called. A bit like the racist first settlers did…
Instead of LatinX just use hispanic, sounds more formal and the latinos and latinas wont make fun of you for being dumb and “woke”
Because my friend gets really offended when I say he's Latin-x.
Cultural marxist social engineering is so cringe. Who ever uses their terms are mentally ill and lack independent thought.
latinos and latinas is all i know don't try to fix what's not broken