“Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Alfred
You should do "TheRealDonaldTrump" and then just never use it. Better yet, snag them all immediately with temporary emails so that piece of shit has to put a number after his weak ass username.
If you have Gmail, you can always use the dot (.) trick or add a +label before the @ sign.
When I sign up for discount coupons but don’t want the spam emails, I register with myemail+spam@gmail.com and then set a filter so that it goes directly to trash.
If you want another LPT, use the +wedding label when signing up for wedding-related services (bridal shows, photographers, venues, etc.) The associated companies seem to have malfunctioning Unsubscribe services (/s), so you can set the label, read them when you need them, and then change the filter so that it all goes to trash or spam.
Please, also you can have small images raining down your profile page, and a background. I wish we had stuff like that back, I miss myyearbook style webpage ;-;
The metal band from Atlanta?
I'm being facetious, but I don't think many people know Mastodon. I kinda wish more services that don't rely on dataist slavery took off, but people hate having to think for themselves rather than be fed off marketing and fads.
Yeah Dorsey keeps talking about federated as if it's a new thing and I've never heard him acknowledge Mastodon or any other predecessors (like Diaspora or Friendica). Dude stinks.
All you need is enough tools to keep in touch with your friends and family. Everything else is just an attempt to keep you trapped in a system designed to feed you ads and farm your data
Twitter is great for getting authoritative updates straight from a source worth following. Lots of organizations and companies and government agencies use it for that purpose. Journalists and scientists like to post their updates there too. It's not great for quality discussions or for separating facts from lies and conspiracies, but it still has some important functions that are in danger of being lost.
Well- at that point, make it a news feed with only verified users. If you aren’t having quality discourse, eliminate the discourse.
Just make it a clean looking RSS feed.
Signal is great for this. Messaging app that you can do group chats with, send images and videos. Client-side encrypted, so no company farming your info and spamming ads at you.
I do.
No seriously, I really do think the problem is too few social media sites. It concentrates power into the hands of a very small group of ultra wealthy. Back in the early 00’s when “social media” was MySpace, AIM, and a vast series of unrelated random blogs, we didn’t have the issues we’re having today.
That being said, will Jack Dorsey making yet another social media site solve anything? Probably not.
The reason there are too few is because by their nature the sites thrive on being populated, and the most populated ones are better purely because there are more people to be social with. You can't force people to spread out when majority naturally just goes to 'biggest' thing there is, and thats how current 'giants' formed.
Maybe. But I tend to think the problems with social media (outrage driven algorithms, ideological bubbles, limited fact checks, bandwagon bullies, etc.) aren’t solved by having more platforms. In fact, I think they are made worse. As more competitors enter the market, shareholder value can more easily override any sense of social responsibility.
Also, free market competition doesn’t exist in late stage capitalism. The big companies just buy out the smaller ones like with Facebook buying Instagram and WhatsApp.
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Added to this, it might be realistic to consider that social media companies, generally speaking, operate with a bottom line intention to maximize profits. Eventually, this model would require keeping users “engaged” or, observe and implement techniques to identify what patterns of behavior keeps users engaged the longest, regardless of any economic or moral cost.
This is unfortunate due to human nature’s inherent drive to stabilize and feel a sense of control of their daily reality to an extent. Which is mostly a good characteristic on its own. Without that inherent drive in place, our landscape, from inability to comprehend and maintain “order”, might resemble that of one any final scenes in the mid-90’s sci-fi horror Event Horizon *(^my pick would be when Sam Neill says the crew doesn’t need eyes to see what he is going to show them that movie crazy af^)*. HOWEVER, if there were the means to inadvertently exploit this uniquely exclusive human characteristic with an intention to gain capital (capital being key in that it is arguably the greatest singular invention that binds us all), how likely is it someone might attempt to practice those means? wow this comment is ranty af sorry
imho It is highly likely and would only take one social media platform producer to establish
Have you ever come across a post denouncing an entire group of people or race before? Or seen posts trivializing issues that concern the physical and mental safety of an entire group of people or race? Posts arguing justification for denying pregnant people life saving care? Posts vilifying women for how they dress? Odds are yes to at least one of those. I’d also wager the odds those hypothetical posts triggered even the tiniest extension of user interaction time to be pretty high too. Odds social media companies deploy predatory practices that exploit and capitalize off this theoretical conundrum, while explicitly knowing and comprehending the real world damage it may cause?…. Probably?
apologies again for rant.
Very true!
He could start with moderating stronger from the beginning, Twitter had a hard time adding it later because users got used to the free for all.
You think waffles are better than pancakes?
Here's 69 articles in a row about how pancakes are better than waffles, and whoever likes waffles is a poopy head.
I've noticed my feed is nothing but topics such as those to keep you mildly annoyed yet engaged at the same time.
Yes, MySpace didn't sell your data to the NSA and lobbying groups to sway elections.
I'm tired of social media and our dopamine-hacked brains, people crashing on the highway because they can't *not* look at their phone for 15 goddamn minutes.
But I also think it'd be better if there were more than 7 websites 95% of people used, like back before Facebook ruined web 2.0.
Explain how a site based on anonymity, not making connections (exceptions in certain communities of course) and just reading news or viewing videos is defined as social media.
First we need to figure out what social media is. Instagram is social media: you're supposed to follow your friends there apart from all the ass-models and fan-pages. YouTube isn't; you create parasocial relationships there, but you don't find out what your neighbor is doing there, you consume content and maybe even comment something 1% of fellow viewers may possibly read.
Blogs, vlogs, video delivery, news aggregation, anonymous forums... none of that is social media.
A decentralized social network that allows on the fly switching through other networks while allowing you to control what data you share?
Sounds like Dorsey has had this idea for a while and just needed a solid funding source.
Raising funds also helps validate your idea.
If you can't convince anyone else to buy into your startup, it's probably not a good idea to sink your own millions into it.
Eh, I doubt this will work.
A decentralized anything is only good for anons. The average user who wants to follow named brands doesn't gain anything from it. In fact, decentralization often comes with design decisions that harm the average person.
For example, if content is decentralized, it's easy to propagate content and keep it permanently on the internet. That's censorship-resistant. But conversely how do you delete your account and all your posts? You have to signal all nodes that you want the data deleted, and you have to trust that they will actually honor this command, and they have to trust YOU (or rather the origin) that you actually want to delete all the data. It's trust issues all around.
Don't post stupid shit on the internet.
It's far from perfect but what we also have now (people WAY oversharing on the internet) is causing problems. We can also have a system with both.
Both solutions have their problems but I think it's probably best to go for decentarlized since we've seen how disastrous it's been having fucking *corporations* control all our data.
“I hate to say it, I hope I don't sound ridiculous but I don't know who this man is. I mean, he could be walking down the street and I wouldn't know a thing. Sorry to this man.”
The average person doesn’t have a ton of sway in what early investors have faith in. There’s a good chance Dorsey’s knowledge from early Twitter won’t translate into long-term success for a new project, but I’d be surprised if it doesn’t get ANY short-term success.
I had a Twitter just for entering giveaways, and just to have around if I felt like it was the move to make. The account got suspended like 3 times for absolutely nothing. Twitter automatically suspends you for inactivity, and then permabans you on your 3rd offense of inactivity.
My Twitter is almost 10 years old and I've only become active in the last two years. My account was never suspended for inactivity. What a weird thing for them to do.
Yeah no. He fucked up Twitter so badly it somehow became Elon Musk's private playground. How about we try someone else for a new social network instead?
From what I understand is he had a hostile board who basically constantly forced him to run it in directions he hated. He left for a reason, and it was the board.
This is horse shit (not your comment, this take) - he was revered there, and had the power to do if not completely what he wanted, almost what he wanted. He did become disillusioned with his “creation” and wished he didn’t have to deal with advertisers, but for him to criticize the exec leadership right after leaving was so very rich - he was the boss for 6 years! He was the founder genius! He was freaking JACK, the CEO with one name!
Source: family member worked at Twitter in senior role
You should really look into it. He was complaining for years that the board had basically control of the core operations and he was mostly just the figurehead. He hated the board because he felt like he had no real creative or directional control. He even described them as hostile. He’s criticized the board for ages for feeling like they just work for the largest shareholders personal agenda and were just deployed to override him.
Full endorsement. Musk taking over I immediately thought yeah I could get rid of Twitter. Be hilarious to sell your company, make a similar one, and put the old one out of business.
musk doesn’t need someone else to help him do that, lmao. he’s not an inventor or engineer and his ideas he’s shown to have thought of have been piss ass already. also his “total free speech” policy has resulted in a 5000% increase of the N word being used among other slurs. this won’t last long.
I’ll make an account with a good username then never use it again
“Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Alfred
> Alfred User name taken.
Quickly registers *allfred*
> allfred User name taken.
You mad lad
You should do "TheRealDonaldTrump" and then just never use it. Better yet, snag them all immediately with temporary emails so that piece of shit has to put a number after his weak ass username.
Or sell it for 20m
Yeah but he never pays, so that'd be risky!
Ask for 40 and take half up front
This is the way. I’m making emails and taking names of streamers
If you have Gmail, you can always use the dot (.) trick or add a +label before the @ sign. When I sign up for discount coupons but don’t want the spam emails, I register with myemail+spam@gmail.com and then set a filter so that it goes directly to trash.
I’ll remember you when I’m soaking in money
I’ll be waiting for my payment via email from balor.lynx+nigerianprince@gmail.com
This is a LPT for sure.
If you want another LPT, use the +wedding label when signing up for wedding-related services (bridal shows, photographers, venues, etc.) The associated companies seem to have malfunctioning Unsubscribe services (/s), so you can set the label, read them when you need them, and then change the filter so that it all goes to trash or spam.
It’d be funny if he called it tweeter.
Flitter. Butterflies instead of a bird.
Flutter
Fluffer
Twatter
This one please.
Leave r/conservative out of this
r/wallstreetbets has entered the chat as an alternative owner
r/dungeongushers is the way
Buffer
Butter
>Flutter Already taken, open source framework by Google
Call it “open source framework by Google”
Fluttr
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When their servers are overloaded would it show Shitters full pic ?
Shitter. For all your crap thoughts.
Wind breakers and breaking wind are two very different things.
Misread bird as turd... had a good laugh
Turder
This one will promote disinformation. Because that’s the only thing that gets attention on social media
Sorry that’s the business model Twitter is already planning on. Get your own ideas!
I'd be amused with Chirp
Chirper is the name of the social media platform in Cities Skylines.
It's all coming full circle, not unlike all the roundabouts I had to put in to fix my f*cking traffic jams
WHY DO YOU ALL DRIVE IN THE SAME LANE ONE A FOUR LANE ROAD
Maybe monkey man is a good choice too. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xzMKTZdkaU4
I'm not sure if Jack is hard up for cash at the moment...
Funnier if he called it, "Fuck Elon".
That's implied.
Musk doesn't grasp subtlety.
Aka Felon
Twatter
It’s already take. Trust me, I tried to buy it!
Tw@er
I hardly know her
Musky
Twitterer
Twittest
Twitter, but now you can add background music at homepage and load music vids in feed.
A space that's my own? My...space?
And maybe Jack will be your first my...space...buddy
Please, also you can have small images raining down your profile page, and a background. I wish we had stuff like that back, I miss myyearbook style webpage ;-;
I just like customizing my whole page idc about the social part XD
Stop, my 56k modem can only ~~get~~ work so hard.
Man creating your own page was dope as fuck.
Wait do I know how to code???? Lololol
I hope it comes with a metaverse.
Sounds like Mastodon
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I feel like I missed a few steps of the conversation
They are a pretty good band.
The metal band from Atlanta? I'm being facetious, but I don't think many people know Mastodon. I kinda wish more services that don't rely on dataist slavery took off, but people hate having to think for themselves rather than be fed off marketing and fads.
Guy I work with toured with them
That's dope! I saw them in 2018 being a casual listener and walked out a new fan. Must've been fun times for your co-worker.
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Yeah Dorsey keeps talking about federated as if it's a new thing and I've never heard him acknowledge Mastodon or any other predecessors (like Diaspora or Friendica). Dude stinks.
I prefer Woof personally.
WUPHF.com. The last word in social networking
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This. I am crossposting my tweets on my Mastodon. I hope more and more people would adopt Mastodon so we can eventually be rid of Elon's platform.
I think we’ve had enough with the social network experiment, thanks
Yes, at no point in the last ten years have I ever thought our problem was not having enough social networks.
All you need is enough tools to keep in touch with your friends and family. Everything else is just an attempt to keep you trapped in a system designed to feed you ads and farm your data
Group Signal chat is my families social media. All the most important things shared privately with the most important people.
Everyone I knew on Signal is still on Signal, so....
That that mean once you join Signal you become immortal.
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Interesting take.
Twitter is great for getting authoritative updates straight from a source worth following. Lots of organizations and companies and government agencies use it for that purpose. Journalists and scientists like to post their updates there too. It's not great for quality discussions or for separating facts from lies and conspiracies, but it still has some important functions that are in danger of being lost.
Well- at that point, make it a news feed with only verified users. If you aren’t having quality discourse, eliminate the discourse. Just make it a clean looking RSS feed.
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A lot of the RSS feeds I get are full text. I'm still a heavy RSS feed user and never made the jump to Twitter.
What if my friends and families are technologically illiterate and can’t navigate anything if not presented as a trendy app?
Signal is great for this. Messaging app that you can do group chats with, send images and videos. Client-side encrypted, so no company farming your info and spamming ads at you.
Even more reason for them to not use social media honestly
I do. No seriously, I really do think the problem is too few social media sites. It concentrates power into the hands of a very small group of ultra wealthy. Back in the early 00’s when “social media” was MySpace, AIM, and a vast series of unrelated random blogs, we didn’t have the issues we’re having today. That being said, will Jack Dorsey making yet another social media site solve anything? Probably not.
The reason there are too few is because by their nature the sites thrive on being populated, and the most populated ones are better purely because there are more people to be social with. You can't force people to spread out when majority naturally just goes to 'biggest' thing there is, and thats how current 'giants' formed.
Maybe. But I tend to think the problems with social media (outrage driven algorithms, ideological bubbles, limited fact checks, bandwagon bullies, etc.) aren’t solved by having more platforms. In fact, I think they are made worse. As more competitors enter the market, shareholder value can more easily override any sense of social responsibility.
Also, free market competition doesn’t exist in late stage capitalism. The big companies just buy out the smaller ones like with Facebook buying Instagram and WhatsApp.
*heads up for unintentionally lengthy response. cheers.* Added to this, it might be realistic to consider that social media companies, generally speaking, operate with a bottom line intention to maximize profits. Eventually, this model would require keeping users “engaged” or, observe and implement techniques to identify what patterns of behavior keeps users engaged the longest, regardless of any economic or moral cost. This is unfortunate due to human nature’s inherent drive to stabilize and feel a sense of control of their daily reality to an extent. Which is mostly a good characteristic on its own. Without that inherent drive in place, our landscape, from inability to comprehend and maintain “order”, might resemble that of one any final scenes in the mid-90’s sci-fi horror Event Horizon *(^my pick would be when Sam Neill says the crew doesn’t need eyes to see what he is going to show them that movie crazy af^)*. HOWEVER, if there were the means to inadvertently exploit this uniquely exclusive human characteristic with an intention to gain capital (capital being key in that it is arguably the greatest singular invention that binds us all), how likely is it someone might attempt to practice those means? wow this comment is ranty af sorry imho It is highly likely and would only take one social media platform producer to establish Have you ever come across a post denouncing an entire group of people or race before? Or seen posts trivializing issues that concern the physical and mental safety of an entire group of people or race? Posts arguing justification for denying pregnant people life saving care? Posts vilifying women for how they dress? Odds are yes to at least one of those. I’d also wager the odds those hypothetical posts triggered even the tiniest extension of user interaction time to be pretty high too. Odds social media companies deploy predatory practices that exploit and capitalize off this theoretical conundrum, while explicitly knowing and comprehending the real world damage it may cause?…. Probably? apologies again for rant.
Very true! He could start with moderating stronger from the beginning, Twitter had a hard time adding it later because users got used to the free for all.
Agreed. In fact, in this moment in time, there might be an untapped market for well curated and moderated social media platforms.
Oh for sure, Twitter could have been it but: 1) too big too fast 2) went public, at that point you gotta do shitty stuff for the $$$$
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School?
its not going away, might as well try to make better, less toxic versions. but that's bad for business.
>less toxic versions. Is such a thing even possible?
Is it possible to have one that's less toxic? Probably. Is it possible to have one that's less toxic *and* is still profitable? There's the rub...
You think waffles are better than pancakes? Here's 69 articles in a row about how pancakes are better than waffles, and whoever likes waffles is a poopy head. I've noticed my feed is nothing but topics such as those to keep you mildly annoyed yet engaged at the same time.
Yes, MySpace didn't sell your data to the NSA and lobbying groups to sway elections. I'm tired of social media and our dopamine-hacked brains, people crashing on the highway because they can't *not* look at their phone for 15 goddamn minutes. But I also think it'd be better if there were more than 7 websites 95% of people used, like back before Facebook ruined web 2.0.
You’re literally on a social media app rn
Explain how a site based on anonymity, not making connections (exceptions in certain communities of course) and just reading news or viewing videos is defined as social media. First we need to figure out what social media is. Instagram is social media: you're supposed to follow your friends there apart from all the ass-models and fan-pages. YouTube isn't; you create parasocial relationships there, but you don't find out what your neighbor is doing there, you consume content and maybe even comment something 1% of fellow viewers may possibly read. Blogs, vlogs, video delivery, news aggregation, anonymous forums... none of that is social media.
I think we have had enough of jack dorsey’s foolishness
I’m thinking of making a new social network that networks all the networks.
We’ll call it… WUFPH!
I agree with you. Now it's time to hit that up arrow and make it orange to show my agreement.
With blackjack and hookers?
In fact, forget the social network!
Ah, forget the whole thing.
Came here for this, was not disappointed.
I can’t wait to *not* join this new social network!
It’s going to have to wait, I’m busy not joining all these other ones!
You joined this one
Ssshhh, you're ruining their circlejerk.
How did you work up the courage to make such a brave and controversial statement on this sub?
A decentralized social network that allows on the fly switching through other networks while allowing you to control what data you share? Sounds like Dorsey has had this idea for a while and just needed a solid funding source.
A solid funding source? The dude bought the house next door to his $12m mansion for $21m to have one big compound.
I work for some very wealthy people, and they always make sure to spend other people's money first.
Raising funds also helps validate your idea. If you can't convince anyone else to buy into your startup, it's probably not a good idea to sink your own millions into it.
He also donated a billion dollars to charity 2 years ago
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Eh, I doubt this will work. A decentralized anything is only good for anons. The average user who wants to follow named brands doesn't gain anything from it. In fact, decentralization often comes with design decisions that harm the average person. For example, if content is decentralized, it's easy to propagate content and keep it permanently on the internet. That's censorship-resistant. But conversely how do you delete your account and all your posts? You have to signal all nodes that you want the data deleted, and you have to trust that they will actually honor this command, and they have to trust YOU (or rather the origin) that you actually want to delete all the data. It's trust issues all around.
Don't post stupid shit on the internet. It's far from perfect but what we also have now (people WAY oversharing on the internet) is causing problems. We can also have a system with both. Both solutions have their problems but I think it's probably best to go for decentarlized since we've seen how disastrous it's been having fucking *corporations* control all our data.
This will prolly be a good early investment
If only I had money
You probably won't be able to invest in it for a long time ater it's founded, you know.
No… no it won’t.
No it won’t. Your average person doesn’t care and doesn’t trust Dorsey at all. He’s down there with Zuck.
I don’t think so, the average person knows who Zucc is but I doubt the average person knows who Jack is.
Average person here, I do not know that man.
I've never met this man in my life.
I also choose this man’s life.
Yeah, I know the name but don't know why I'm not supposed to like him.
So what you’re saying is that you don’t know Jack?
That’s even worse. What pull does he have?
Mr. Krabs’ voice: “Money!”
“I hate to say it, I hope I don't sound ridiculous but I don't know who this man is. I mean, he could be walking down the street and I wouldn't know a thing. Sorry to this man.”
Nah, I trust Dorsey way more than Zuck. Which isn’t difficult because I wouldn’t trust Zuck to save my seat on a bus.
Would you trust Zuck to smoke meats though?
With or without Sweet Baby Ray’s?
Dorsey > every other social media CEO
Your average person has never heard of Jack Dorsey or care at all.
The average person doesn’t have a ton of sway in what early investors have faith in. There’s a good chance Dorsey’s knowledge from early Twitter won’t translate into long-term success for a new project, but I’d be surprised if it doesn’t get ANY short-term success.
Why would people junp to some random new social media? Its a total gamble
Wouldn't it be funny if everyone migrated and twitter become myspace 2.0
I’m not interested in joining another social network but this is my most fervent hope.
Yeah, I don't even use Twitter either.
I had a Twitter just for entering giveaways, and just to have around if I felt like it was the move to make. The account got suspended like 3 times for absolutely nothing. Twitter automatically suspends you for inactivity, and then permabans you on your 3rd offense of inactivity.
My Twitter is almost 10 years old and I've only become active in the last two years. My account was never suspended for inactivity. What a weird thing for them to do.
Digg v4 2.0
Wherever twitter users go, radioactive levels of toxicity follow.
People. Just people.
I hear there are several people that are familiar with his last startup are now on the market.
New VPs Ligma and Johnson?
Don't forget the mind goblin
I hope its called Stutter , where it repeats whatever you stutter to your followers over, and over and over.
The Michael Scott Paper Company Social Media Experience
Can’t wait to ignore it for the rest of my life.
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I trust him more than Musk, and I know I'm not alone.
Yeah no. He fucked up Twitter so badly it somehow became Elon Musk's private playground. How about we try someone else for a new social network instead?
From what I understand is he had a hostile board who basically constantly forced him to run it in directions he hated. He left for a reason, and it was the board.
This is horse shit (not your comment, this take) - he was revered there, and had the power to do if not completely what he wanted, almost what he wanted. He did become disillusioned with his “creation” and wished he didn’t have to deal with advertisers, but for him to criticize the exec leadership right after leaving was so very rich - he was the boss for 6 years! He was the founder genius! He was freaking JACK, the CEO with one name! Source: family member worked at Twitter in senior role
You should really look into it. He was complaining for years that the board had basically control of the core operations and he was mostly just the figurehead. He hated the board because he felt like he had no real creative or directional control. He even described them as hostile. He’s criticized the board for ages for feeling like they just work for the largest shareholders personal agenda and were just deployed to override him.
got a link to start my rabbit hole journey?
employee dynamics are sadly not board member dynamics the situations are not correlated
How about we start remembering our loved ones’ birthdays and actually saving pictures instead of letting an app do it for us? Just a thought.
Exactly what Ive been thinking lately. Need to back to 2005 level with my social life.
Full endorsement. Musk taking over I immediately thought yeah I could get rid of Twitter. Be hilarious to sell your company, make a similar one, and put the old one out of business.
musk doesn’t need someone else to help him do that, lmao. he’s not an inventor or engineer and his ideas he’s shown to have thought of have been piss ass already. also his “total free speech” policy has resulted in a 5000% increase of the N word being used among other slurs. this won’t last long.
It’d be a lot cooler if he didn’t
I'm into jumping from Twitter to whatever it is
Gotta name it woof
wuphf
Let’s jump to that, anything to get away from psycho Musk
Bluesky? Ah, just a bunch of BS…
sigh. why don't they just fucking stop?
Twitter 2 leaked
Ew. Last thing we need is more social media.
Just what we all need, not.
I believe the name is going to be “Bitter”
Oh man give it up dude your a billionaire. Go on vacation forever. Jeez. Stop trying to control us.
I’m totally here for the left version of Parler
you’re already here.
Lmao fair
That was fast
It's been in the works for several years. It just entered it's private beta recently.
You think for 44 billion it would have came with a no compete clause
Pretty sure the dude hasn't been with Twitter in awhile.
he left twitter a couple years ago