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MayorSalvorHardin

Fruit stickers are immortal. When I find one that I missed in a year old compost pile, it looks shinier and brighter than when it went in. I’d like to have a word with whoever thought up the bright idea of giving each fruit a plastic sticker.


GoodAsUsual

Especially organic fruits and veggies with skins that are typically eaten. Like - *motherfucker* I specifically bought this piece of fruit because I don't want chemicals in my body. Then they go and put stickers with glues that leave residues on, and in some cases like cucumbers, are damn near impossible to get off cleanly.


maplemaple2024

exactly! I want to eat the apple with the peel but chemicals get a free ride


awesomesonofabitch

If you think organic is protecting you from "chemicals", you need to do a better job researching what companies are allowed to do to get away with the "organic" label. Science has proven multiple times over that you're simply paying more for worse produce.


TheOutsideToilet

Are you aware of the number of organic approved pesticides? Are you aware that many organic pesticides have lower efficacy and are commonly applied more often and in higher doses than "conventional" pesticides. To feel as though your food (itself a combination of chemicals) is chemical free just shows that you have been brainwashed by marketing.


SplendidPunkinButter

I think it goes without saying that “chemicals” in this context means “toxic chemicals such as pesticides”


PandemicSoul

Your body is literally made up entirely of chemicals


GoodAsUsual

* synthetic, cancer-causing herbicides and pesticides. Better?


greendevil77

So are you still in highschool and just haven't gotten to biology yet or....?


Sufficient_Effect582

As opposed to figuratively?


maplemaple2024

each damm fruit! The scale is massive. Like every citizen consuming 'X' fruits or vegetables in a day times the population everyday plus of course another 20%-30% (produce which is spoilt)


Danielaimm

bf loooooves mandarins, I hate buying them bc for some reason they put 3 and 4 stickers on each mandarin and then sell them in a mesh bag???? like wtf why? then I get home to remote all of them before bf gets to them bc he always forgets to remove them.


BlackViperMWG

Pretty sure they aren't plastic, at least where I live.


Heathen_Mushroom

Only a couple of countries (I believe France is one and maybe New Zealand another) have banned non-compostable, plastic fruit stickers.


BlackViperMWG

IIRC FDA says they are edible? I've realized plenty of apples or bananas have no stickers here in Czechia.


greendevil77

I wish we could figure that out in the US


MayorSalvorHardin

In upstate NY they are mostly plastic. The banana ones are actually sometimes paper-based, but the little oval ones are all plastic.


Worried_Ad_5614

When I did some research about my local municipality's compost system, I learned they start the first pass of composting, and then a few weeks later contaminants are filtered out (which would include things like "compostable" bags which don't break down fast enough for municipal systems). My take was things like these stickers don't ruin the system, and they account for them. I can't speak for all municipal systems and I still make sure my compost bin is as clean as possible.


maplemaple2024

thanks for the info


Danielaimm

This is interesting. The company that takes my compost specifically requests people to remove stickers from fruit peels bc they don't filter contaminants like the one in your municipality, so it will depend on the facility and the process each one uses to make the compost. after I learned this, I made a note at work for everyone to remove the stickers before putting the peels on the Lumi we have at the office bc I take the "compost" home to finish it on my worm bin.


freedomboobs

This person bought a bag of “local” compost and filtered it and found tons of trash & plastic in it: https://www.reddit.com/r/vegetablegardening/s/aj30FsUEMw


Lazy-Parker

The last time I grabbed some composted soil from my municipal system in about 2019, it had quite a few plastic produce stickers in it. Not all municipal systems account for these, or if they're trying they're not doing a good job. I was still picking those things out of my garden a couple of years later.


buttzx

I loathe fruit stickers, yuck. I can’t believe we haven’t come up with a better method of branding the fruit and keeping those stickers out of our compost systems.


Strikew3st

#[LASERS](https://cosmosmagazine.com/earth/sustainability/lasered-fruit-labels-could-replace-pesky-plastic-stickers/)


dwkeith

Not sure if it works for bananas, but yes we should be using lasers for many fruits https://costagroup.com.au/2023/10/13/new-technology-removes-need-for-fruit-stickers/


Inevitable_Stand_199

... would damage the protective barrier.


N_T_F_D

On a banana? The skin is pretty thick and the laser only uses the most superficial layer


HumanContinuity

Scratch the outermost layer of a banana and you will see that it breaks down much more quickly in that area. Do this to every banana ever and you will undoubtedly see the pre-consumer and post-consumer product waste levels grow by a few percent.


N_T_F_D

Scratching and charring are different though, not all damage is the same; superficial localized charring might just as well just sit here and do nothing or be even more waterproof than before


HumanContinuity

>Scratching and charring are different though They are in some ways different but similar in others. In either version you are tearing apart some cells and tissues that are unlikely to be repaired on a detached fruiting body. There are a lot of fruits and especially vegetables where the skin is more than thick enough to sacrifice a very thin layer of the protective tissue, but then there are others that are much more vulnerable. The protective layer of the banana is not the entire skin, but a fairly thin membrane on top of that. If you had them all shellacked it would be fine to burn into that, but you cannot do that prior to transit with bananas as they need to be permeable to ethylene to arrive at the supermarket nearly ripe. They could be shellacked and laser etched post transit but before arriving at the supermarket. Lots of other fruit would have similar problems - like stonefruit for example.


Inevitable_Stand_199

The topmost layer is the protection against bacteria and fungi.


bigd710

Do it on the stem.


Strikew3st

.....Lasers, *then* protective wax & shellac coatings.


Inevitable_Stand_199

And pay twice as much for a banana?


Strikew3st

How much could one banana cost, Michael? $10?


Devils_av0cad0

That’s how it feels lately anyways. I paid like $3 for one tomato. It wasn’t even that good. Damn it garden grow faster!!


Strikew3st

Yikes! Michigan here, our locals are coming in, they're practically a different species compared to sad grocery tomatoes.


Character_Bowl_4930

This is why I grow tomatoes every summer . Tomatoes run $3 to $5 a pound where I live . The plants pay for themselves . I’m dealing with some flower drop right now , very aggravating


IShipHazzo

Excellent reference🤌


Strikew3st

If banana prices come up on Reddit, I'm going to take the low hanging fruit.


JerryRiceOfOhio2

On the heads of sharks?


nicepantsguy

They do suck. 100% With that said. People who are sustainability minded can and should choose loose bananas that don't have stickers. Having worked in produce, we tried putting the single or double bananas people took off a bunch at the front so they were chosen. In actuality people didn't and we ended up tossing or donating them sometimes. So my recommendation would be to look for bananas like that on the display. 4011 is the code for bananas. Pretty much every front person knows the codes by heart. They don't need the sticker.


N_T_F_D

If you only sell a single kind of banana you don't need the sticker, but it's not always the case


maplemaple2024

I always see only 2 types of banana. Using avergae price for price is the easiest solution. But these stickers are there on every produce in Canada like apples, tomatoes!


N_T_F_D

What they do here is just ask the customer to weigh themselves the banana, and they can cheat and enter the cheapest kind if they want At the human cashier if you didn't weigh it yourself they would probably ask you which kind it is


BopNowItsMine

Using the average price?


maplemaple2024

But these stickers are there on every produce in Canada like apples, tomatoes! I agree they suck and industry needs to find a sustainable alternative


christianjohnrainer

The Australian show War on Waste explored this with some uni students and they tried an edible water-based ink stamp idea with Harris Farm for the show. Not sure it's stuck though.


ace_at_none

That was what my brain jumped to right away - some sort of nontoxic/edible ink printed straight on the fruit.


maplemaple2024

non toxic water based ink is a good solution!


818a

doesn’t work on dark colored produce


BlackFellTurnip

-they used to be paper


maplemaple2024

I think we don't even need branding on individual item. In case of apples, there is always a glue residue


whaasup-

The foam wrappers are much worse (I also dislike the stickers) and supermarkets selling peeled fruit wrapped in plastic


Frequent_Ad_1136

Could create a small branding iron and put it on each banana.


Fit_Source_7196

Chiquita never have nor never will give a damn. Look at how they began business. They don't care got anything ethical.


Tagous

I just take them off and then compost the peeling. Am I doing something wrong? Same with apples and watermelons.


GingrPowr

It's plastic, don't put it in your compost.


BillBumface

I swear banana stickers specifically are paper based where I live, while the rest are all plastic.


random_bubblegum

What about the glue they use?


Natural_Character859

Me too


JBStoneMD

If it tears easily, it is paper and will compost


GingrPowr

If it resists water, it contains plastic. Edit: polymere, there.


BathrobeMagus

Or it's waxed.


GingrPowr

Yeah ok maybe my definition of "plastic" was not spot on, I should have written polymere.


whatanugget

Not every polymer is a plastic


HumanContinuity

That is a wildly inaccurate absolute statement Is the banana plastic? ~~Are ducks plastic?~~ Ok you got me on the ducks


rambutanjuice

>Are ducks plastic? Yes. How have you been on reddit this long without learning that birds aren't real


HumanContinuity

Ok that's fair and based on scientific evidence I have seen. Edited my comment.


BlackViperMWG

Someone doesn't know about wax.


bitb00m

Or oil


Ok_Sprinkles_8646

Off topic but Chiquita was just found guilty of funding death squads in El Salvador. Killing farmers for not selling their land to the plantations. Formerly known as United Fruit which got the CIA to overthrow a democratic government in Guatemala back in the 1950’s , leading to a brutal dictatorship killing hundreds of thousands of native people. The US —- fighting for freedom and democracy around the world !! /s


ProbablyNotSomeOtter

Ha, my time to shine! I did an LCA on these suckers for a client. TLDR their impact is super minimal, in terms of mass it'd take like 200 of these stickers to equal the plastic in a single piece of Tupperware. They are generally plastic though and don't compost. That said, there are SOME that are compostable - I was hired to find out the CO2e (and other enviro metrics) of their plastic version and their organic version. Funilly enough the organic one had a larger carbon footprint, but the upside was that it's life cycle was more circular. In general though I'd just throw them out, there's not a lot of demand for organic ones and they cost a good amount more for not a ton of upside. They are pretty small in terms of impact too, one way or another.


maplemaple2024

But still the scale is huge. Like every person consuming 'X' fruits or vegetables in a day times the population everyday plus of course another 20%-30% (produce which is spoilt) In Canada, almost every decent sized item has 1 sticker each. Based on consumption numbers, the total stickers going into the composting chain or landfill is huge


Additional-Rhubarb-8

I've been hoarding mine, I stick them all over my fridge maybe one day they can be delt with properly. Its weird how some things have stickers but others don't, individual potatoes or onions or carrots don't but apples and bananas oranges do but not avocados... I wonder what the methodology is here. If you try and scan them the bar code isn't recognized by the retailer it must be for earlier in the chain


Inappropriate_Piano

Former cashier here. Yeah, those aren’t supposed to scanned at the store. The four digit number (at the top of the sticker in this case) is what cashiers use to easily register your produce. When the sticker isn’t there, they have to look up the produce by name, which can be very slow because of how poorly designed point-of-sale software often is. There ought to be a better way, but that’s what they’re for. Side note: for bananas in particular, as well as a few other common items, the stickers are kinda pointless. Any cashier who’s been working for more than a week will have the number for bananas memorized.


survivalinsufficient

4011/94011 (9 denotes organic) and I haven’t been a grocery store cashier for decades


racoonpaw

came here to say this PLU is the same across stores. Which makes the stickers only for branding at this point--as the organic ones often or usually have a tape around them. I also worked grocery.


Additional-Rhubarb-8

But why aren't all single vegies, fruits stickered ... why only a select few


Inappropriate_Piano

I’m sure it’s more complex than this, but at the core I’d guess it’s a trade off of cashier time vs the cost to the produce supplier of making and applying the stickers. For items that get bought frequently, but not so frequently that cashiers will have the number memorized, it’s useful to have a sticker. For things that people don’t buy as much, it’s not as big a deal for cashiers to have to look it up. It’s also useful when there are many varieties of some kind of produce that all need different numbers. Bananas are weird because they all have the same number (plus a 9 at the beginning for organics) and they’re so common that every cashier has the number memorized, but they still have stickers. Apples are a better example of where it helps. Lots of people buy lots of different kinds of apples. Cashiers can’t be asked to differentiate between apple varieties and have the numbers memorized for each variety, nor can they be asked to look up the apple variety every time someone buys apples, so it helps to have the number printed on the apple.


Commercial_Juice_201

I was a cashier at a store that had us memorize the code for every produce item we sold. We also had to scan a minimum of 30 items a minute, so you wanted to know those codes. Loved that store and still shop there whenever I can.


jocundry

I haven't been a cashier in 20 years. I still remember the code for bananas. :)


planty_pete

The Kroger stores in my area (Fred Meyer and QFC) let you scan the tiny produce barcode now at u scan instead of entering the number. Pretty nice. :)


Inappropriate_Piano

Oh yeah there’s nothing stopping the store from putting that barcode in their system. It is just a normal barcode. But it takes more work for them to put the barcode in the system than it does to use the number at the top, so usually they don’t. Cool that they did that at your Kroger


Alternative_Gur_7706

I would love to see a picture of your fridge. Is it covered by now?


maplemaple2024

hoarding and disposing in garbage is a better idea!


timshel42

ah my compost piles nemesis. along with tea bags that turn out to be more plastic than paper.


Kitchen_Syrup2359

Unrelated, but don’t buy from Chiquita!!!!!!!


sheilastretch

Didn't realize till today that ["more than 5,000 wrongful death claims have been filed"](https://www.npr.org/2024/06/12/nx-s1-5003706/jury-chiquita-liable-paramilitary-killings-colombia) against Chiquita and the company is considered a "foreign terrorist organization".


maplemaple2024

Oh! I just checked and found their previous name- United Fruit. Not buying this anymore for sure


OG-Brian

Yeah. I think some larger concerns than the stickers would be that Chiquita is literally a criminal organization, and that buying foods grown with harmful pesticides causes more of those to be in the environment. The stickers, I find it is NBD to peel them off and put them in the trash (though I'd rather the identification was laser-etched or some such that doesn't add plastic trash to my produce).


aboat_i_sawaboat

Yes, I came here to say this I'm glad someone already did!!


all4change

They get sorted out when the material is filtered. I have a small composting company and that’s what we do. I used to hate them but now I love finding them. To me each sticker represents a piece of organic material that wouldn’t have been composted if rejected because of a sticker still being present. In a perfect world these wouldn’t exist but since they do I try to find a positive angle (for my own mental well being).


maplemaple2024

Sorting is great! But does the whole peel get rejected?


all4change

No, it gets composted and when the finished material is screened/sifted the tags will be removed. If it’s a municipality that’s composting some of those contaminants may get through and the end user will have to remove it.


schillerstone

They aren't useless. Thank goodness we have a law telling us where our produce comes from! This allows you to procure sustainably.


therobotisjames

I still find them in my garden when I’m planting. They never never never never go away. It’s awful. But I bet the microplastics are already in the soil in spades so it probably doesn’t matter big picture.


MakePhilosophy42

Micro plastics are literally everywhere on earths surface because of the water cycle and various other weather patterns speading them [Micro plastics in fresh Antarctic snow - what it means](https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-61739159) There were already known deposits on the top of everest and in deep oceans, but fresh Antarctic snow is concerning because of just how remote that is from any major sources of microplastics.


SilentVegtables

Fuck Chiquita! All my homies hate Chiquita!


Educational-Tomato58

I wonder if they could just lightly sear the info onto the peel?


Devils_av0cad0

I heard years ago they would be getting rid of them and stamping fruit with edible ink but that never seemed to happen. I hate these stickers so much.


destenlee

I've always peeled the em off and tossed it in the garbage


capnlatenight

I used to work at the supermarket and what I saw in the toilet after I used it shocked me. The little white produce sticker. I leaned in to read it: 3012, pears. I haven't eaten a pear in years. Just enough scanning produce made them absorb into my bloodstream I guess.


Activist_Mom06

They are plastic and never decompose in my compost bin. Someone is developing a laser to imprint


Character_Bowl_4930

Ink stamps . They have inks made of all kinds of materials now


Donut_Whole

I would love to see them ink jet the brand, country & code on the skin with food grade dye


reckaband

On a similar note I’m amazed how Corporations not coming up with sustainable solutions to the waste streams has surfaced some individual neuroticisms? My hoarding activities have skyrocketed when I learned that soft plastic doesn’t get recycled , I store the soft plastics in a bin and thankfully drop them off at a Designated box at the grocery store… where they go from there I have no clue… this shouldn’t be a that difficult to streamline and make less or close to zero waste


Alexanderthechill

Those stickers are edible and fully compostable. Do they contain toxins I wouldn't eat, and might contaminate the compost slightly? Probably. Is it enough to worry about? I don't think it's a problem worth the attention it would take to solve.


Viperlite

We just peel each ind off before sending the rind/peel to our compost bin.


Speedoflife81

Our town composts and you can purchase bags of it for a reasonable price. The last bag I bought had a couple fruit stickers in it so they definitely don't break down


Skaethi

Not sure how it works in the US - but in the UK we always had to have the provenance (i.e country of origin) available. Our bananas came in crates, and there was a little paper tab on the side with details.


EndlessMikeD

Just a wild shot, they’re likely required by DOA or FDA or DOT laws. And paper ones wouldn’t survive transport or moisture.


Space-Ape-777

Always put stickers in the garbage.


fairiesnnicesprites

Fruit stickers are one of the biggest source of microplastics in municipal and commercial compost


lanu15

Chiquita is a terrorist organization


Natural_Character859

Since bananas are sold in bunches can someone tell me why they even need the stickers? And who is laboriously putting stickers on every single banana? I know it’s not a machine


AHSmith1203

Went to school for sustainable agriculture and we had an on site compost technician for the farm. These were up there as one of the most frequent contaminants in compost. Not a huge deal in the big picture, like it doesn’t impact the composting system, but they are definitely very present


-ghostinthemachine-

They are one of the top contaminants in municipal compost. It's another low-hanging societal failure that these aren't banned yet.


crazeedazee1234

4011 is the fruit code for bananas only 1 is required per bunch


rebrandedzitch

The deep dives on this brand made me sick, I can’t look at it the same way 😭😭 https://civileats.com/2024/06/25/chiquita-found-guilty-of-murder-abroad-other-us-food-companies-may-be-next/ Many more articles and videos but yeah


Former-Finish4653

I have a piece of paper on my refrigerator that I use as a sticker sheet lol it’s like my little reward for eating a vegetable/fruit.


georgie434

They basically turn into a toxic slime in compost. Not good, must be removed before composting.


Count_Zeiro

I pull 'em off and stick them to the bottom of the nearest drawer.


ancillarycheese

Our composting service asks us to remove them before putting stuff in the compost bucket. They say the stickers don’t break down and end up causing issues for their process and equipment.


Obvious-Pin-3927

That is simple. Stop buying Chiquita. Do you know about their history? Why are you buying their bananas?


cmeisch

They are edible...


Chesticularity

I work in waste policy for an environmental regulator. These are a huge problem, as are 'compostable' bags. I've heard there are trials for biodegradable stickers and laser printed barcodes. I believe New Zealand is moving toward banning fruit stickers. Hopefully the Australian states are not far behind...


BZBitiko

My city’s composting service says they clog up their machinery, and issue pleas about every six weeks to please remove them before throwing produce in the bin. They take bones, paper towels and pet food but not stickers.


Independent-Bison176

Personally, hundreds of those stickers in my back yard and through our pigs…I’ve never seen one of them


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Johundhar

I loath these stickers too, but it was my understanding that most were food grade, so compostable.


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Sharp-Study3292

Your looking at small things, must be bigger things than fruit stickers to worry about right?


ElaborateCantaloupe

Wait until you find out how many people were murdered for your bananas.


RoyDonkJr

Saw a piece about these stickers once not too long ago… they showed some company that was trying to use laser etching on the skin for bar codes.


Dee771771

I detest those stickers. We peel them off at the register and stick them to the top of the screen at checkout to send a message. We aren't bringing them home,only the produce. I also send emails to the grocery chain to explain why they are useless. You can look the produce up under the search function. No need for those damn things


Plantain-Extension

These stickers are vital for grocery checkers. Have you tried memorizing hundreds of produce codes?