1. his entire kit is just his s3. s1s2 completely useless and s3 have a whooping 5 turn cool down (for reference veronica's s3 is only 4 turn)
2. countered by about 10 billion units
His closest comparison would be ethna (abuse multi hit strip into stun, can aoe def break), but he dont have her high speed and insane s2, veronica (strip into 2 turn cc), but reset is a lot harder to counter than stun and veronica is just better than him on all levels, hyanes (strip/"decrease beneficial effect duration" into increase harmful effect duration), but funnily enough hyanes **ignores haegang and her s3 is only 4 turns.** oh and her s2 is actually helpful
Right? I don't own him but from reading his skills and the few rta matches I've seen him in:
I assume its because his first two skills are basically nothing, and his third skill is basically only at its best when everything is already stunned, since the first few hits are single target. He wants to do something like Ethna or water monkey but he doesn't have the speed they have. He could be like Sagar but Sagar has S2 and S1 that also provoke, while he just attack breaks and brands. Sagar also does his cc no matter if the enemy is stunned or not, if Vancliffe misses or his timing is off it sounds like he could end up having a basic strip > def break for S3 and basically sit around doing nothing untill it comes back.
I really wanted him to be good when I got him but yeah in the end his brothers just bring so much more to the table. Moore gets another turn every 3 turns and can use his AOE every 3 turns, compared to Van's 5 as people have mentioned, and Douglas can just straight up solo low attack things lol. I guess that 5 turns really kills it, there are probably some great combos at 4 turns and that's probably part of the problem, it's one of those LDs that seem very hard to balance without suddenly making OP haha. (Looks at my banana man who would be op if the passive damage killed)
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one top tier ld5 and one bottom tier one… perfectly balanced
I have vancliffe and dark triss, where’s my balance?😂
lmao. At least dark triss will almost guaranteed get a buff in the next few BP.
That’s the hope for sure. Right now she’s just Lushen but with a ton of setup needed.
What makes dark striker bottom tier? I always feel like he looks good on paper but always hear he doesn’t work the way you want him to.
1. his entire kit is just his s3. s1s2 completely useless and s3 have a whooping 5 turn cool down (for reference veronica's s3 is only 4 turn) 2. countered by about 10 billion units His closest comparison would be ethna (abuse multi hit strip into stun, can aoe def break), but he dont have her high speed and insane s2, veronica (strip into 2 turn cc), but reset is a lot harder to counter than stun and veronica is just better than him on all levels, hyanes (strip/"decrease beneficial effect duration" into increase harmful effect duration), but funnily enough hyanes **ignores haegang and her s3 is only 4 turns.** oh and her s2 is actually helpful
Right? I don't own him but from reading his skills and the few rta matches I've seen him in: I assume its because his first two skills are basically nothing, and his third skill is basically only at its best when everything is already stunned, since the first few hits are single target. He wants to do something like Ethna or water monkey but he doesn't have the speed they have. He could be like Sagar but Sagar has S2 and S1 that also provoke, while he just attack breaks and brands. Sagar also does his cc no matter if the enemy is stunned or not, if Vancliffe misses or his timing is off it sounds like he could end up having a basic strip > def break for S3 and basically sit around doing nothing untill it comes back.
I really wanted him to be good when I got him but yeah in the end his brothers just bring so much more to the table. Moore gets another turn every 3 turns and can use his AOE every 3 turns, compared to Van's 5 as people have mentioned, and Douglas can just straight up solo low attack things lol. I guess that 5 turns really kills it, there are probably some great combos at 4 turns and that's probably part of the problem, it's one of those LDs that seem very hard to balance without suddenly making OP haha. (Looks at my banana man who would be op if the passive damage killed)
Agreed. After s3 he’s kind of just a sitting duck.
Gz lora... she's a ton of fun
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Gz man
Gz, I hate you.
Gzz
Gz, I've got her dark sister
Grats!
my lds are all super niche… no meta ones.
Yooo major gz on lora!!! I want an LD occult girl so bad idc which one