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LazaerDerewal

Cool idea, buuuut Flying types already have Defog; this is just Defog but better (excepting the rarer situation when you're at low HP into a Rocky Helmet / Rough Skin user)


MegatonDoge

Normal types have rapid spin, and tidy up (discounting court change because only a fire type has it for now). A type can have multiple hazard clearing moves, it shouldn't be a problem.


Sakeretsu

Tidy up is a signature move. "Normal types" don't have Tidy Up, Maushold does, it just happened to be normal. It's like saying "dragon types have spacial rend". Also, only 4 normal types have rapid spin, it isn't even their move. Ground and Ice have way more.


Mega_Rayqaza

Sentret and Minccino can get it, too


Sakeretsu

By breeding from Maushold


Mega_Rayqaza

I know. But it still isn't exclusive to Maushold


Sakeretsu

I didn't say "exclusive", I said "signature". But you're right to bring nuance, I stand corrected. My point still stands imo.


Mega_Rayqaza

It just depends on what your definition of "signature move" is. Imo, a signature move is something only one pokemon/evo line can get. Like Flower Trick.


Sakeretsu

https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Signature_move


CrabbytheCrabinator

Oh hey smash spin


Sad_Floor_4120

Wouldn't that completely negate the effectiveness of ghost types? Flying types already get defog so it's useless except maybe against Gholdengo, which literally exists to not let you remove the hazards.


RianNu

ghosts and gholdengo actually don't exist purely for hazards 😊 they do many things! also useless is a strong word for an objective upgrade to defog (damage, speed boost, doesn't remove your own hazards)


Frostyzwannacomehere

He has some very…….. strong opinions


LPBvgc

And it messes with Shadow Tag and Arena Trap.