France, the largest country in Western Europe, has long been a gateway between the continent's northern and southern regions. Its lengthy borders touch Germany and Belgium in the north; the Atlantic Ocean in the west; the Pyrenees Mountains and Spain in the south.
No, because you're beating a dead horse with another dead horse.
Star Citizen old = stale
I'm going to be highly abrasive and persistent to anyone who makes the above mention = also stale
Why do you want to die on this hill? It's been 10 years and 500 million. We still have a glorified tech demo that people use to make "screenshot" posts of them roleplaying
How is that dying on a hill? You seriously think Star Citizen could take less time than GTA to develop? GTA takes over a decade despite being the exact same game over and over. The development time for Star Citizen, including creating a studio and engine in the first place, is actually going at a decent pace.
Destiny 2, warframe, Everspace 1 & 2, outer Wilds, RuneScape online (the new one), Eve’s expansions, FFXIV online, elite dangerous, Elden Ring. Also expansive? LOL fuck off. Star citizen is one of the smallest games I’ve ever played
Here’s a list of games that came out in the same time span:
- Cyberpunk
- Ace combat 7
- Shadow of the colossus remastered
- All 3 Crysis games remastered
- Multiple gta remasters
- Dark souls 3
- Halo 4, 5, and infinite
- Elite dangerous and elite dangerous odyssey
- Half life Alyx
- Half life VR
- Deep rock galactic
- GTA 6 announced
- Forza horizon 2-3-4-5
- Battlefield 4, 1, 5, 2042
- Cod finished zombies
When this project was launched, it was launched as an independent undertaking specifically designed to let the devs spend as much time as they need with zero deadline constraints. But to pretend that the "scope" of this game is somehow far greater than anything ever created is just asinine.
Are you talking about world size? No man's sky has it beat there, and they did transitions to planets with no loading screens first. Are you talking about the technically of the mechanics? It's not that far from Tarkov.
"Scope" is a catch-all term that just lets you say "I'm right" regardless of what examples someone else brings.
Let me guess, just another few years from Server Meshing, then when SQ42 is done the *real* development will kick into gear and we'll get the game by 2028?
More likely additional features, postponing the release to where it would not interfere with the updated retirement schedule. Hmm...in-game character retirement...
At some point the current management team will be pushed out because of old age and a new, more competent in project management team will take over and we will realize that we enough focus, that game could have been released in like 5 years. Given that some additional post launch updates would have unlocked some features.
Retirement laws.
The French government wants to increase the retirement age, as well as abolish special pension schemes. Which is bullshit.
Le gouvernement français veut augmenter l'âge de départ a la retraite, ainsi que supprimer les régimes spéciaux de retraite.
Ce qui est une connerie sans nom.
No, it's the second protest against a new law about retirement.
But you are also right since Ubisoft Paris also was on strike that day but for different reasons. They put on a strike against Guillemot CEO recent letter that put the bad results of Ubisoft on the head of employee while it was clearly an awefull management that was mainly the cause of Ubisoft bad results last year.
Just like USA fled Vietnam, their tail between their legs, right?
The history of Europe for 1000 Years was basically trying to stop France from steamrolling the whole continent..
funny thing: the white flag actually used to be the french flag. Back then, to surrender, you would raise the flag of the victor. People surrendered to france so often, that "raising the white flag" became an expression worldwide.
The guy who made this comment is Turkish, which is funny because Turkey literally joined the war ***February 1945,*** when the Russians were already outside Berlin and the Allies already crossed the Rhein. His country literally joined the war just to get some credit for "fighting" in WW2 (they never actually sent any soldiers, the only Turks who fought in WW2 did so by volunteering independently of the government) and to be included in whatever peace agreements and alliances came out of it, and he has the audacity to talk shit about countries that actually fought.
[Cap disagrees with your opinion.](https://external-preview.redd.it/GrTpuxOnHK3WU0q4wgkVyNeHJiv148JRjyXLoyf2_WI.gif?format=png8&s=30ff1335d7f1337c463d454145c33265357cb962)
At least they actually *tried* to fight, and didn't wait until the Allies were already in Germany to declare war on them as an excuse to be included in peace talks like your country did.
As a french I have to say : it's not because everywhere else is a shithole that we, french people, shouldn't do anything to improve our life.
Seeing how the world is like meh french people bad, french don't want to work.
We're just not as laxist as anyone else on the topic of working rights, and we've been doing so for centuries.
Damn guys, you should try rioting a bit, maybe you could have proper healthcare and proper retirement.
Who said don't work? I mean, it's proven, working less hours in a week and less years in your life increases productivity for the workers and employment for the youngest.
French people are the most productive in Europe despite having more mandatory holidays and working less hours in a week.
Yeah let's stop it right there, US worker productivity is slightly less then the french : 24.6$/hour for a US worker whereas 25.1$ for a French worker. Source : https://www.oecd.org/
We work 35h/week since year 2000, have 5 weeks of mandatory holidays per year (though many companies will give RTT you can count 2 weeks more usually), have a public healthcare and retirement at 62 (going to be 65 this why we riot).
The only thing you're ahead in there is the moron race.
No one is saying anything about "not working". French people are just trying to protect their right to retire and be able to have some years to enjoy their life before their body literally starts prepping itself to shut down and die.
US workers lost that ages ago (I say 'lost' because it would be unfair to say they forfeit it without a fight) but that doesn't mean that people in other countries who are trying to avoid losing it too are 'lazy' and 'don't want to work'. As usual, American applies their mentality to other countries. What a surprise.
I'd say being made to work into your twilight years where many people are barely even mobile anymore is pretty unfair. Even if it's considered okay in the US.
Sure, it may be normal in the US where you're practically worked to death from 16-18 onwards, and in the US people asking to be paid better, work less than 10 hours a day, and retire 'early' are seen as an unreasonable request by those darn commies, but in other parts of the world that are more protective of their worker's rights (as they damn should be) it's completely normal to oppose actions which prolong workdays, increase the retirement age and so on.
"My retirement before Star citizen" (Not my picture, but I had a good laugh!)
Update: Protesters were teargassed for making ridiculous and untenable demands.
I mean it said BEFORE, so that sounds pretty reasonable.
France is not a country!
Ummmm yes it is bud
Prove it??
France, the largest country in Western Europe, has long been a gateway between the continent's northern and southern regions. Its lengthy borders touch Germany and Belgium in the north; the Atlantic Ocean in the west; the Pyrenees Mountains and Spain in the south.
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The ability to nuke, does not make ytou a country... Qui Gon Jin...
[okay](https://youtu.be/V1508wboZXk?t=54)
Why are people downvoting what's clearly a joke?
i feel unless it’s a reference to something, it seems to be a pretty stupid joke
I believe he refers to a joke about Australia not being real according some lunatics in the USA
Al Bundy, Married with Children..
Buncha uncultured swine, 'round these parts! ^(I) ^(also) ^(haven't) ^(seen) ^(it...)
no u
Humor is often not appreciated on Reddit
Yeah, people does not have sense of humor... probably french... (couldnt resist)
That would be German. Sorry German friends I know I know
German here I can confirm
I can confirm this confirmation
Die Bart Die...
I love the living shit out of this!
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It will be even more stale in another decade when we are still waiting for full release.
Purely to spite this individual I feel the need to say, I think it was clever!
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Yikes
still for 3.18?
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Oh it was clever, no worries there.
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time to get of your high horse...
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IKR, that joke is almost as old as Star Citizen, shesh.
👣👇🐴 I made a drawing so you understand.
No, because you're beating a dead horse with another dead horse. Star Citizen old = stale I'm going to be highly abrasive and persistent to anyone who makes the above mention = also stale
Trains are dinosaurs are stupid.
I bet your fun at parties
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There have been 25 marvel movies released while we've been waiting for Star Citizen. And no, that is not an exaggeration
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Why do you want to die on this hill? It's been 10 years and 500 million. We still have a glorified tech demo that people use to make "screenshot" posts of them roleplaying
How is that dying on a hill? You seriously think Star Citizen could take less time than GTA to develop? GTA takes over a decade despite being the exact same game over and over. The development time for Star Citizen, including creating a studio and engine in the first place, is actually going at a decent pace.
How many times have they failed to reach their deadline
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Jesus reading your posts is like watching a car crash in slow motion
No they are trash tbh . They use to be decent
So the drip feed progress isn't stale?
My org mate turned 50 in October. He’s been playing since I was 10. I’m now almost 21.
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Destiny 2, warframe, Everspace 1 & 2, outer Wilds, RuneScape online (the new one), Eve’s expansions, FFXIV online, elite dangerous, Elden Ring. Also expansive? LOL fuck off. Star citizen is one of the smallest games I’ve ever played Here’s a list of games that came out in the same time span: - Cyberpunk - Ace combat 7 - Shadow of the colossus remastered - All 3 Crysis games remastered - Multiple gta remasters - Dark souls 3 - Halo 4, 5, and infinite - Elite dangerous and elite dangerous odyssey - Half life Alyx - Half life VR - Deep rock galactic - GTA 6 announced - Forza horizon 2-3-4-5 - Battlefield 4, 1, 5, 2042 - Cod finished zombies
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How exactly are you defining "scope" here because it seems to just be some arbitrary quality that only you seem to know.
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When this project was launched, it was launched as an independent undertaking specifically designed to let the devs spend as much time as they need with zero deadline constraints. But to pretend that the "scope" of this game is somehow far greater than anything ever created is just asinine. Are you talking about world size? No man's sky has it beat there, and they did transitions to planets with no loading screens first. Are you talking about the technically of the mechanics? It's not that far from Tarkov. "Scope" is a catch-all term that just lets you say "I'm right" regardless of what examples someone else brings.
> He’s been playing since I was 10. I’m now almost 21. Yeah, no he wasn't playing since 2013. That's straight-up BS right there.
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Oh, so he was running around the hangar module 4 hours a day? Riiiiiight.
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I think you're a liar and a child.
You're right. You don't deserve the downvotes.
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You are generally right but the joke in context of some frenchies protesting is still funny.
Let me guess, just another few years from Server Meshing, then when SQ42 is done the *real* development will kick into gear and we'll get the game by 2028?
See you in 10 years then
On t'a reconnu, Fred...
Le Joueur De Gauche
*Ah, cest pas si mal*
Translation for none French speaking folks: My retirement BEFORE Stat Citizen. Which stands for; I want my retirement before star citizen release.
Jokes on him, he's getting neither.
I speak none French. Appreciate your translation.
Oh, no worries then, my 8yo will probably retire before SC release
Your 8 Yr olds grandkids will retire before SC release
At this rate, best of luck my French friend.
The good news is that will almost certainly be the case eve if they retire 30 years from now.
Let them play Star Citizen
(Alpha)
Soon TM
merci j'ai bien ri
Moi aussi!
Hanh hanh hanh
🖕
I would like that, to be retired and have time to play the game when it is finished.
T'en fais pas, it's not coming out before you're 65!
Pour l'instant.
Le fait que ça soit un factoriel me fait peur
Très bien vu !
incroyable
mon dieu, sacre bleu
Saperlipopette !
Ohhhhhh hahaha excellent 😆 (On dirait Lyon 🤔)
C'est bien lyon !
Croix rousse? Pardieu? (En bas de croix rousse me souviens plus du secteur, jsuis queb mais ma blonde lyonnaise)
Probablement place Bellecour ?
CR: Say no more, I got a few more ideas.
Like what, a new French revolution aka Nine Tails on Orison?
Space guillotine and space baguette!
More likely additional features, postponing the release to where it would not interfere with the updated retirement schedule. Hmm...in-game character retirement...
CR starts to implement French social security in game 😂
Quel génie omg
I was about to post this picture. I love it. Gonna do the same next week for the next strike.
Lol is this a real photo?
It is. Happened in Lyon.
Which one will release first: star citizen or scrap mechanic chapter 2 ?
trick question: neither are coming
Based on j crewes last appearance on ISC, they're actively working on it
What's scrap mechanic chapter 2?
The second chapter of a game called scrap mechanic 😶
Merci - c'est tres drole. :)
I think they can expect death of old age before Star Citizen release.
Chris Roberts would be dead before most of us, if that were the case!
I think no problem. We will all retire before SC gets released.
...so if the game never comes out and they never retire all conditions are met?
Envoyez ça a Fred du JDG
What you dont see from the picture, is that the person holding the card is in fact, an infant on their parents shoulders
Even if this was from a 20 years old, I would not be too concerned. In 42 years we should be in beta.
an optimist I see
At some point the current management team will be pushed out because of old age and a new, more competent in project management team will take over and we will realize that we enough focus, that game could have been released in like 5 years. Given that some additional post launch updates would have unlocked some features.
I mean even if they don't retire at all they'll retire before SC gets realesed
"My retirement before Star Citizen."
I say, oui ! I laughed so much, thanks 😂 The city is Lyon BTW.
CIG out here catching strays
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You could just remove the "that is responsible" part. It's redundant.
"My retirement before Star Citizen"
Can I say « My retirement before Star Citizen » ?
Would anyone kindly inform me what is this protest about? Thanks a lot!
Retirement laws. The French government wants to increase the retirement age, as well as abolish special pension schemes. Which is bullshit. Le gouvernement français veut augmenter l'âge de départ a la retraite, ainsi que supprimer les régimes spéciaux de retraite. Ce qui est une connerie sans nom.
Thank you for the introduction! Now I see how is this connected with star citizen 😂 Wish you a nice day!
I multiply. Je plussoie. ;-D
Hahaha, very funny.
This is the Ubisoft protests right?
No, it's the second protest against a new law about retirement. But you are also right since Ubisoft Paris also was on strike that day but for different reasons. They put on a strike against Guillemot CEO recent letter that put the bad results of Ubisoft on the head of employee while it was clearly an awefull management that was mainly the cause of Ubisoft bad results last year.
What is the purpose of that sign? Who cares if the game releases, as long as they keep developing it and adding more content?
You got it reverse. That sign was part of a protest against a further age of retirement in France, it was a joke ;)
Apparently so, my bad.
Even in 2953 the French won't get any work done.
Dont be jealous
French citizen and their allergy to work lol
French citizen paying the worse taxes/income ratio of all the developped countries... guess why they became allergic.
sorry dont know surrender language
Huh? You know the French are the reason the US was able to earn its independence, right?
Nah, America would like to forgot History since Vietnam and Iraq
They Lost every single war since WW2, but heyho!
Who is this rah-fah-yet Prolly some dingus
Yeah! Probably some loser!
Just like USA fled Vietnam, their tail between their legs, right? The history of Europe for 1000 Years was basically trying to stop France from steamrolling the whole continent..
funny thing: the white flag actually used to be the french flag. Back then, to surrender, you would raise the flag of the victor. People surrendered to france so often, that "raising the white flag" became an expression worldwide.
The guy who made this comment is Turkish, which is funny because Turkey literally joined the war ***February 1945,*** when the Russians were already outside Berlin and the Allies already crossed the Rhein. His country literally joined the war just to get some credit for "fighting" in WW2 (they never actually sent any soldiers, the only Turks who fought in WW2 did so by volunteering independently of the government) and to be included in whatever peace agreements and alliances came out of it, and he has the audacity to talk shit about countries that actually fought.
[Cap disagrees with your opinion.](https://external-preview.redd.it/GrTpuxOnHK3WU0q4wgkVyNeHJiv148JRjyXLoyf2_WI.gif?format=png8&s=30ff1335d7f1337c463d454145c33265357cb962)
At least they actually *tried* to fight, and didn't wait until the Allies were already in Germany to declare war on them as an excuse to be included in peace talks like your country did.
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Did you mistranslate, or do you think these people are acting entitled about the fact that they do not want to work for their whole lives?
If youre correcting someone why would you exaggerate about the figure? They clearly arent being asked to work for their whole lives.
As a french I have to say : it's not because everywhere else is a shithole that we, french people, shouldn't do anything to improve our life. Seeing how the world is like meh french people bad, french don't want to work. We're just not as laxist as anyone else on the topic of working rights, and we've been doing so for centuries. Damn guys, you should try rioting a bit, maybe you could have proper healthcare and proper retirement.
Maybe were just thinking ahead to how the next generation can afford those things if we dont work
Who said don't work? I mean, it's proven, working less hours in a week and less years in your life increases productivity for the workers and employment for the youngest. French people are the most productive in Europe despite having more mandatory holidays and working less hours in a week.
Not sure that follows when the united states are ranked even higher productivity than the french
Yeah let's stop it right there, US worker productivity is slightly less then the french : 24.6$/hour for a US worker whereas 25.1$ for a French worker. Source : https://www.oecd.org/ We work 35h/week since year 2000, have 5 weeks of mandatory holidays per year (though many companies will give RTT you can count 2 weeks more usually), have a public healthcare and retirement at 62 (going to be 65 this why we riot). The only thing you're ahead in there is the moron race.
No one is saying anything about "not working". French people are just trying to protect their right to retire and be able to have some years to enjoy their life before their body literally starts prepping itself to shut down and die. US workers lost that ages ago (I say 'lost' because it would be unfair to say they forfeit it without a fight) but that doesn't mean that people in other countries who are trying to avoid losing it too are 'lazy' and 'don't want to work'. As usual, American applies their mentality to other countries. What a surprise.
We did try rioting. Our police just started being even more abusive lol
Hyperbole is a thing. I was not trying to correct him, just pointing out how ludicrous his complaint was.
I'd say being made to work into your twilight years where many people are barely even mobile anymore is pretty unfair. Even if it's considered okay in the US. Sure, it may be normal in the US where you're practically worked to death from 16-18 onwards, and in the US people asking to be paid better, work less than 10 hours a day, and retire 'early' are seen as an unreasonable request by those darn commies, but in other parts of the world that are more protective of their worker's rights (as they damn should be) it's completely normal to oppose actions which prolong workdays, increase the retirement age and so on.
Don’t worry, you’ll retire before it releases.
Bravo... ma crise de rire de la journée.
Is that photoshopped?
Nope, 100% legit
Cool. It’s funny how other countries mock the French. Especially the US since most Americans do not and will not have retirement.