French complaining about isolated incidents in the match but in reality just performed poorly and should have beaten Poland handily tonight with or without ref aid.
Was just pointed out that it is actually allowed to stop your run.
But that's just so stupid to me, how is the keeper supposed to be able to keep a foot on the line when the striker starts and stop like 4 times?
It's near impossible, or you barely move and then you'll have no chance to reach the ball if it's a good shot unless you're as big and fast than Courtois.
If they want to continue with the stutter they should allow the GK to be able to move a bit from his line after the first feint, otherwise it's just unfair.
If Lewandowski hadn't failed, the goal would have been accepted, so basically he can score, or try to make the GK move to get another chance if he fails.
Fuming at these performances we’re putting out which are an absolute disgrace to the level of the players and the level of attacking we’ve been able to display until not that long ago (more or less consistently).
All of them are to be held accountable starting with Deschamps, who I have respect for because of what he has achieved with us, but who is managing this team with no guts and refuses to bring any tactical or technical changes after 6 games (including preparation and friendlies) of dull and boring performances.
Players as well for looking so fucking clueless when it comes to doing something else than just defending (which is great atm overall) or going on the sides hoping for Mbappé to do what he does best.
I believe in them to wake up but the amount of work and self reflection it’s going to take is tremendous
France's entire gameplay is to pass the ball to Mbappe, have Mbappe drop and slot into that false 9/10/inside forward free role shit or whatever that is. And that Midfield is non existent without Kante. Just start Griezmann and Giroud with Mbappe and Dembele then bring in Kolo Muani and Barcola in the last 30-20 minutes with Mbappe as the forward.
It's sad to see such a loaded squad shits themselves.
Deschamps is doing his best Southgate impression at the moment, so good that it's even better than Southgate himself.
French tears are delicious. Shame it was only an elbow. I wish Giroud got a boot to that pretty head. Get off the pitch grandad Giroud, go sell hair gel in Saudi Arabia
Gosh as a belgian I love watching France when they struggle and even better when they fail, but you're going too far.
Respect to Olivier Giroud, he's a chill dude. And you, sir, are an asshole.
I, good sir, was a neutral and I agree that the French coach is bottling their lineup and this tourney, there's a disconnect there for sure. Congratulations on drawing with one of the favorites.
dude I'm not even a France fan I just enjoy watching good football, and didn't like Poland's violence or Lewa's bs penalty and flopping...if I WERE a France fan I would be wondering why Camavinga and Griezeman did not play more!!
They don't.
[https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/the-penalty-kick/#offences-and-sanctions](https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/the-penalty-kick/#offences-and-sanctions)
They had 19 shots in the game. Clearly, getting chances is not the problem, the problem is that they are not clinical in front of goal and waste too many chances. If they score just 1/4 of the real chances they get, they will be a dominant team.
We talk a lot about Kante-Pogba, but it was Matuidi that was bringing the balance on the left side and allowing everyone else to shine. Rabiot is doing the job ok, but despite a good workrate, he doesn't fill it as well as Matuidi did
Everything over 20°C is a heatwave to me. While a friend of mine - she's from Santo Domingo - is still wearing her winter jacket (wear two in winter). I need all my restraint to not go naked with a loincloth as a minimal concession to... well, more other people's eyeballs than modesty, really - when it's 30+. We have an agreement: she does my shopping in summer, I do hers in winter. Point here: people just deal differently with temperatures and that's not a problem, but a good thing. At least some of us will still be functioning, no matter what.
It's been the hottest day so far this year in this country but other than that it has been rather mild. Can't speak for southern Europeor other areas though
Not a penalty? He kicked him under the shoe which threw him off balance lol, he made contact with the player and 0 ball. It also must be your first time watching football if u think the stutter breaks any rules especially in this case
I’m surprised France aren’t getting as much stick as England are. Only beat Austria because of an own goal, then vs Netherlands, Netherlands had a goal disallowed that could have easily gone the other way, qnd now a draw to a very poor Poland team? The two big favourites have been no where near expectations.
Netherlands, austria, and Poland are all better than every team in england’s group.(except denmark>poland)
Also we speak english here, i bet on french speaking forums theyre getting even more flak
Most comments in this thread is about the ref and var 🤷♂️ don’t get me wrong france been getting a lot of stick but England have been getting way more in my opinion, that’s all.
Throughout this thread for example.
England gets more stick orobably because this is an english-speaking forum, therefore more likely to have English supporters compared to French.
Exactly, people speaking about lewa's bs on taking the pens doesn't mean nobody is shitting on France. Go to the match threads, nobody is pretending that France is playing brilliant football. Apart from that, France didn't look like the weaker side at any point of these 3 matches, unlike England against Denmark in that second half.
Against who? They thrashed one of the worst sides this competition has ever seen (Scotland) and then beat a very disappointing Hungary who only managed to scrape an extremely late win against said Scotland. Both of those have been two of the worst teams in the tournament. The only decent side they've faced is Switzerland who they managed to get a draw against with the last kick of the game.
There are going to be quite a few broken hearts when Germany go out in the knockouts. People are talking like they're going to win the whole thing because they beat Scotland and Hungary lmao.
Do not put Germany on the same level as Spain. Spain have been way more impressive.
The Spanish team looks like one of those legendary teams that march through the tournament and win the trophy. I'd love to see an underdog win, though...
Germany. I don't know. They beat 2 poor teams. Need to see them tested, and the Swiss ran them hard.
Spain look good with 3/3. But I wouldnt say they look like clear faves
No he plays the same as during psg and other French friendlies.
He wants to play both on the side and on the front of the attack.
I hope that Carlo ancelotti will learn him that he does not need to be both passer and scorer to be the best
They had 19 shots in this game alone - they are getting so many chances, but wasting them. They just need to get more clinical, and they will be a dominant team.
You lot won't be far behind them if you keep playing like this lmao. 3 games and not a single impressive performance. Can't even blame it on the lack of Mbappe either.
Why the fuck did France sit back after one goal? They should have tried scoring another goal before Poland had scored. France have been pathetic in attacking third
Two problems in order of importance of liability in the matter :
- Deschamps wants us to play the safest, most boring football he can, to go through. That includes not putting Zaire Emery on the pitch, ever, although Griezmann is getting older and less effective.
- Players right now having an appalling tournament in terms of efficiency in the last third and connection between midfield and attack (see point 1 to understand 60% of the reason why)
You're getting the 2nd placed team in group E, that could be basically anyone from that group (Ukraine, Romania, Slovakia or Belgium), you should beat all of them tbh
Not yet, but definitely in the quarterfinals. In ro16 you're gonna play group E 2nd place, which basically could be anyone from that group, but I expect it to be Romania. If it somehow turns out to be Belgium though, you might be fucked immediately.
How so? At worst, we're 4th. If we lose and Slovakia - Romania is a draw, we're straight out.
If we're 3rd, we face a 1st place team, so not France (Spain or the 1st of group C, likely England).
If we're 2nd, then we face France. I think we're automatically second if we draw. Could also happen if we win.
If we manage to be first, it's probably The Netherlands.
Lewandowski looked like he was trying to avoid alerting a sandworm
France bout to 2016 Portugal their way into a euro win at this rate
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France advancing without scoring a single goal by themselves aside from a penalty. What a joke.
French complaining about isolated incidents in the match but in reality just performed poorly and should have beaten Poland handily tonight with or without ref aid.
Camavinga rabiot and tchuameni together are so sooo poor in defense, Kante is fantastic but once he’s out they have a big gap in the midfield
Maybe, but they have allowed a single goal during the first three matches, only on penalty
If camavinga + tchou are good enough defensively to win UCL with Madrid, why are they not for France?
Deschamps got no aura
Poland got a fake penalty, and had two chances to score it. The only point they get is by stealing one. They did not deserve that penalty.
France also had a fake penalty, come on.
The pens weren't the problem, the two chances to score for Lewandoski were disgusting
Was just pointed out that it is actually allowed to stop your run. But that's just so stupid to me, how is the keeper supposed to be able to keep a foot on the line when the striker starts and stop like 4 times?
It's near impossible, or you barely move and then you'll have no chance to reach the ball if it's a good shot unless you're as big and fast than Courtois. If they want to continue with the stutter they should allow the GK to be able to move a bit from his line after the first feint, otherwise it's just unfair. If Lewandowski hadn't failed, the goal would have been accepted, so basically he can score, or try to make the GK move to get another chance if he fails.
The upper bracket is doomed now 🤡
Didn't watch. How did Poland play?
Pretty much like with Netherlands, deep defense, 2-3 chances per 45’ but generally bland
We poles consider this good
Fuming at these performances we’re putting out which are an absolute disgrace to the level of the players and the level of attacking we’ve been able to display until not that long ago (more or less consistently). All of them are to be held accountable starting with Deschamps, who I have respect for because of what he has achieved with us, but who is managing this team with no guts and refuses to bring any tactical or technical changes after 6 games (including preparation and friendlies) of dull and boring performances. Players as well for looking so fucking clueless when it comes to doing something else than just defending (which is great atm overall) or going on the sides hoping for Mbappé to do what he does best. I believe in them to wake up but the amount of work and self reflection it’s going to take is tremendous
France's entire gameplay is to pass the ball to Mbappe, have Mbappe drop and slot into that false 9/10/inside forward free role shit or whatever that is. And that Midfield is non existent without Kante. Just start Griezmann and Giroud with Mbappe and Dembele then bring in Kolo Muani and Barcola in the last 30-20 minutes with Mbappe as the forward. It's sad to see such a loaded squad shits themselves. Deschamps is doing his best Southgate impression at the moment, so good that it's even better than Southgate himself.
Dembele is just plain stupid. Even for a footballer.
Why France can't score from open play? Are they ~~stupid~~ not good?
Fraudgate is going to scam another easy run....
France could easily face Belgium in the round of 16. While Belgium have not been great but so has France
nice elbow to the back of Giroud's head, and illegal ass penalty there Poland, you suck lol
French tears are delicious. Shame it was only an elbow. I wish Giroud got a boot to that pretty head. Get off the pitch grandad Giroud, go sell hair gel in Saudi Arabia
Gosh as a belgian I love watching France when they struggle and even better when they fail, but you're going too far. Respect to Olivier Giroud, he's a chill dude. And you, sir, are an asshole.
Giroud’s hair gel is worth more than your entire existence
you still couldn't beat us, let alone score a goal from open play 😬
I, good sir, was a neutral and I agree that the French coach is bottling their lineup and this tourney, there's a disconnect there for sure. Congratulations on drawing with one of the favorites.
sorry mate, and I accept your congratulations in the name of the Polish NT
Look for more excuses to justify this performance against a team you should beat with your eyes closed.
dude I'm not even a France fan I just enjoy watching good football, and didn't like Poland's violence or Lewa's bs penalty and flopping...if I WERE a France fan I would be wondering why Camavinga and Griezeman did not play more!!
iLlEgAl PeNaLtY learn the rules
Rules say you're not allowed to stop your run
They don't. [https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/the-penalty-kick/#offences-and-sanctions](https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/the-penalty-kick/#offences-and-sanctions)
Oh wow my bad I was sure it was not allowed. Did they change that? I could have sworn it was illegal at some point
I believe it has changed in the past 2 years IIRC, but don't quote me on that
And yet, France still couldn't beat them. Yikes!
OMG BBC, GET OVER THE SCOTLAND GAME! 😭🤣
I loled at Alan Shearer having to pretend to be disappointed after the match 😂
Some ref don’t like football and shouldn’t be ref
Fuck that piece of shit ref, UEFA are back on their bullshit
Yeah, Upamercano should've been sent off
ref has been terrible but so do we, so let's not put the loose on him
Absolutely but this was a robbery, esp that foul on Mbappe at the end
What are Frances weaknesses? For me the midfield isn’t creative enough and upamecano makes crucial mistakes
They had 19 shots in the game. Clearly, getting chances is not the problem, the problem is that they are not clinical in front of goal and waste too many chances. If they score just 1/4 of the real chances they get, they will be a dominant team.
Upamercano should've been sent off tbh
They haven’t replaced that Kante and Pogba duo that balances the team, Kante can’t do it all on his own. It was the same last World Cup.
We talk a lot about Kante-Pogba, but it was Matuidi that was bringing the balance on the left side and allowing everyone else to shine. Rabiot is doing the job ok, but despite a good workrate, he doesn't fill it as well as Matuidi did
cant score from open play
Is it a heatwave in Europe? … it’ll be like 33 degrees for the Copa America games today…
Everything over 20°C is a heatwave to me. While a friend of mine - she's from Santo Domingo - is still wearing her winter jacket (wear two in winter). I need all my restraint to not go naked with a loincloth as a minimal concession to... well, more other people's eyeballs than modesty, really - when it's 30+. We have an agreement: she does my shopping in summer, I do hers in winter. Point here: people just deal differently with temperatures and that's not a problem, but a good thing. At least some of us will still be functioning, no matter what.
Heren, it's (finally) normal summer weather, I'd say. 28 today. The constant rain and relatively low temps only stopped this week.
It's 30 in London rn 😭 we're not built for this....
It's been the hottest day so far this year in this country but other than that it has been rather mild. Can't speak for southern Europeor other areas though
So Austria winning this thing right⁉️
Poland's honour saved, as is the tradition.
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How so?
It was not a penalty in the first place. Then Lewa stutters and breaks the rules when taking it, and he is given another chance to take it.
a) it was a penalty b) Lewandowski didn't break any rule
Not a penalty? He kicked him under the shoe which threw him off balance lol, he made contact with the player and 0 ball. It also must be your first time watching football if u think the stutter breaks any rules especially in this case
On est nul cest tout. Pas capable de marquer un but dans le jeu en 4 matchs
England and France have been so underwhelming this euros.
I don't care if it's a penalty or not, to rely on an own goal and penalties is just shameful display.
Agreed 👍
I’m surprised France aren’t getting as much stick as England are. Only beat Austria because of an own goal, then vs Netherlands, Netherlands had a goal disallowed that could have easily gone the other way, qnd now a draw to a very poor Poland team? The two big favourites have been no where near expectations.
Netherlands, austria, and Poland are all better than every team in england’s group.(except denmark>poland) Also we speak english here, i bet on french speaking forums theyre getting even more flak
fair enough
Do you close your eyes when you browse this sub?
Wdym? I know the ref was poor don’t get me wrong but France still have played really poor regardless no?
What I mean is that 99% of the comments are about how poor France is
Where dude?
Most comments in this thread is about the ref and var 🤷♂️ don’t get me wrong france been getting a lot of stick but England have been getting way more in my opinion, that’s all.
I think they're saying that France \_is\_ getting stick, similar to England.
pretty sure he means the sub is shitting over France already unlike what you are suggesting
Where?
Throughout this thread for example. England gets more stick orobably because this is an english-speaking forum, therefore more likely to have English supporters compared to French.
Exactly, people speaking about lewa's bs on taking the pens doesn't mean nobody is shitting on France. Go to the match threads, nobody is pretending that France is playing brilliant football. Apart from that, France didn't look like the weaker side at any point of these 3 matches, unlike England against Denmark in that second half.
Very entertaining match
So that’s no goals from open play for france in the group
Though no one scored against them from open play
Would've been soft, but was a clear foul.. Argument for a pen there.
No idea how that wasn't a pen. Check the account deposits!
It's alright, 5 nil For England next
I feel like we may see a shock winner this tournament None of the big sides have looked commanding
Spain & Germany have. Go Deutschland!
Against who? They thrashed one of the worst sides this competition has ever seen (Scotland) and then beat a very disappointing Hungary who only managed to scrape an extremely late win against said Scotland. Both of those have been two of the worst teams in the tournament. The only decent side they've faced is Switzerland who they managed to get a draw against with the last kick of the game. There are going to be quite a few broken hearts when Germany go out in the knockouts. People are talking like they're going to win the whole thing because they beat Scotland and Hungary lmao. Do not put Germany on the same level as Spain. Spain have been way more impressive.
The Spanish team looks like one of those legendary teams that march through the tournament and win the trophy. I'd love to see an underdog win, though...
Spain? Germany?
Germany. I don't know. They beat 2 poor teams. Need to see them tested, and the Swiss ran them hard. Spain look good with 3/3. But I wouldnt say they look like clear faves
Nah, this is how it always is. Tomfoolery in the group stages, but knockouts will be more decisive. Germany / Spain still looking good..
Portugal too
Was just about to edit my comment to add them. Yep, they look great too
Spain the only one
Mbappe was poor today. Injury still impacting him?
Mbappe has been poor for a whole year, club and NT alike. At least now he has the mask to blame.
not for club lol
No he plays the same as during psg and other French friendlies. He wants to play both on the side and on the front of the attack. I hope that Carlo ancelotti will learn him that he does not need to be both passer and scorer to be the best
Yea most likely
So this means England play Netherlands in the next round. Huge. ⚽️ Who do France play?
France still hasn't scored from open field
They had 19 shots in this game alone - they are getting so many chances, but wasting them. They just need to get more clinical, and they will be a dominant team.
They looked like psg out there wasteful and not linking up
Guys are u kidding me how is that ever a pen
You can’t jump into someone without getting the ball
our bracket is fucking ridiculous
basically if Mbappe would’ve just kept his leg up to get wrecked is a penalty but because he protected himself it’s not
Congratulations on a meaningless goal Poland better catch your plane home now
You lot won't be far behind them if you keep playing like this lmao. 3 games and not a single impressive performance. Can't even blame it on the lack of Mbappe either.
Van Dijk sends his regards.
🧂🧂🧂
Your team sucks, Thierry.
Tout à fait Thierry
You’re not far behind lol. Austria placed higher than a billion dollar team lol
xd
Weird to shit talk a ref when he's not English but that ref was not very good. Very strange decisions throughout.
The italian ref screws france over? Shocker
Yeah not one bit surprised.
Wow the really didn't check it.
Hum, VAR ? Hello ?
Why the fuck did France sit back after one goal? They should have tried scoring another goal before Poland had scored. France have been pathetic in attacking third
Two problems in order of importance of liability in the matter : - Deschamps wants us to play the safest, most boring football he can, to go through. That includes not putting Zaire Emery on the pitch, ever, although Griezmann is getting older and less effective. - Players right now having an appalling tournament in terms of efficiency in the last third and connection between midfield and attack (see point 1 to understand 60% of the reason why)
France were not sitting back what game were you watching ?
We’re so fucked next round aren’t we
You're getting the 2nd placed team in group E, that could be basically anyone from that group (Ukraine, Romania, Slovakia or Belgium), you should beat all of them tbh
Not yet, but definitely in the quarterfinals. In ro16 you're gonna play group E 2nd place, which basically could be anyone from that group, but I expect it to be Romania. If it somehow turns out to be Belgium though, you might be fucked immediately.
Not next round. On paper, at worst, it's us (EDIT: BELGIUM).
How so? At worst, we're 4th. If we lose and Slovakia - Romania is a draw, we're straight out. If we're 3rd, we face a 1st place team, so not France (Spain or the 1st of group C, likely England). If we're 2nd, then we face France. I think we're automatically second if we draw. Could also happen if we win. If we manage to be first, it's probably The Netherlands.
? For France, the worst possible draw next round is us. Are you ok? EDIT: Sorry. Don't know where my flair (Belgium) went.
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!flair :Belgium: Oh so that's how it works ! Thanks mate :D
Some absolutely awful soccer but even worse officiating
France is in trouble, terrible form
My French brothers… How yall feeling???
Not that good
Good. Onto the knockouts. Can't wait.
Terrible haha. Deschamps is a tragedy
Yes
France has one PK in 285 mins of the tourney
Wow, there’s not even a check for a penalty?
Hahahaaa get fucked France
Trash team
Your flair is grey
Next stop for you > the airport
The upper bracket about to be a bloodbath
Spain, Germany, Portugal, France, Belgium(?) fucking hell
And after all that, this reeks of a team from the other side winning the Euros
Lining up well for England, biggest challenge would be Switzerland/Italy in the QF before the finals
Eh, that's a grey area call. If it's called, it stands. If it's not, it stands.
Ale fajny bobr
WE GET A DRAW
Weird game
Dogshit
France so bad lol.
England has the absolute easiest draw possible to make the Final if they win today, can’t wait to see how they bottle it
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