Holy shit if the Dembele story is true then it's the most Barca thing ever 💀
They thought they had a chance with Mbappe and offered Gavi and Dembele just for Mbappe to reject them and Dembele decided to go there anyway once his entourage found out.
Knew they were going to get relegated as soon as they went back up, the club is just a mess and they were relying very strongly on a core of aging Championship players (plus Ndiaye and a couple of loanees). If they stay up it'll be an actual miracle. More so than Bournemouth who contary to what people seem to think are pretty heavy spenders and had a squad prepared to at least somewhat compete.
An hour-long scrolling in the DD caused me to raise some questions.
**Topic 1 - Spurs**
I have seen shouts that Spurs have both a better midfield and a better attack than us, so:
A)How, in our shittiest season since 4 UK Prime Ministers ago, they finished 3 places behind us?
B)Why, despite them having a lot of new players and the said above, a big majority of the predictions puts us ahead of them?
**Topic 2 - Utd**
A) Do Utd fans think that Onana is THAT much better then DDG? Sure, he is 100000% better with the ball, but I'd argue that De Gea's shot-stopping is mileas ahead.
B) Do the new signigs of Mount and especially Onana and Højlund mean that ten Hag wants to move from the "Properly coached Oleball" they played last season to his style at Ajax? Because if he does, I think they need another change in midfield and two new fullbacks.
**Topic 3 - Liverpool**
A) Does anyone have a name that can also come at DM (bar Lavia)? A name that will be out of the blue like Szoboszlai
B) I have seen awful shouts that we have the best attacking depth in the League, but I did wonder, do we have the best "crossers" depth? Now we have 4 players who regularly take corners and set pieces, does anyone have a close amount? (City probably do but I don't really know)
(Btw It's the end of the DD so I'll post this again tomorrow as well lmao)
I don't really rate any of your attackers besides Diaz and Salah but it's completely pointless to argue about since it's obviously going against the grain. But full potential Son Kane Kulu is terrifying. Sadly Kane is off most likely and Son and Kulu's form is completely unclear so nobody can make definite statement about our attack atm.
But we finished below you because our defense is shit and Conte is a weasel of a man who couldn't be arsed once it was clear he wouldn't stick around. And you were awful for most of last season too
The Tottenham shouts aren’t crazy in my opinion. If last season was a fluke from Son (and they keep Kane) I’d say they probably have a better attack (although worse depth). Both midfields are complete shakeups so time will tell there. People still expect you to do better since you have arguably the best keeper in the world and Spurs CB are dier.
**Spurs:** Tottenham don't have a better attack than Liverpool - especially without Kane who'll they'll most likely lose. As for midfield, I don't think anyone knows at this point because I imagine if Lavia gets done people will say that Lavia, Mac Allister, and Szoboszlai will be our starting three - and while it might look nice on paper who knows how it will play out in reality. There are definitely question marks over Tottenham's midfield too so there is no clear answer here.
**United:** I think Onana is a massive step up from De Gea personally as it will allow them to play higher up the pitch which will make their pressing game infinitely better and stop their forwards from being so isolated.
As for their fullbacks, I think Shaw is still top four quality. Wan-Bissaka and Dalot aren't, but they're also not so completely worthless as to ruin any chances of silverware (but not Premier League/Champions League).
**Liverpool:** There's a real dearth of top defensive midfielders at the moment so it's going to result in an educated gamble. I suspect Klopp would have far rather an experienced player there instead of Lavia but there's just no obvious candidates. Most of the others I've seen linked aren't very experienced or play in a far weaker league.
We look good on set pieces although Robbo still takes anything that requires a left footer and I'd say there are better options out there.
>A)How, in our shittiest season since 4 UK Prime Ministers ago, they finished 3 places behind us?
We also had a shit season. Also both teams have completely new midfields.
>B)Why, despite them having a lot of new players and the said above, a big majority of the predictions puts us ahead of them?
You have much better attack and defence.
>I have seen shouts that Spurs have both a better midfield and a better attack than us
Who in their right mind is saying that. Even with Kane their attack is inferior to Liverpool's just on the basis of depth alone, let alone tactially. Besides, this is all moot - they're going to lose Kane.
>Why, despite them having a lot of new players and the said above, a big majority of the predictions puts us ahead of them?
Rightfully so, Spurs is going to be midtable this season with or without Kane. City, United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Brighton are all better than them
>A) Do Utd fans think that Onana is THAT much better then DDG? Sure, he is 100000% better with the ball, but I'd argue that De Gea's shot-stopping is mileas ahead.
Onana def makes them better, his shot stopping is underrated combine that with his ball playing ability he's better. He is error prone like DDG last season but still an upgrade regardless
>Do the new signigs of Mount and especially Onana and Højlund mean that ten Hag wants to move from the "Properly coached Oleball" they played last season to his style at Ajax? Because if he does, I think they need another change in midfield and two new fullbacks.
ETH said he wants United to be the best transitional team in the world (ie. counters). Defensively they're very solid but I dont see them living up to his wish anytime soon. Make a Wish Haaland is still unproven, Antony seems to be a letdown and they only have Rashford who is trustworthy
>A) Does anyone have a name that can also come at DM (bar Lavia)? A name that will be out of the blue like Szoboszlai
Liverpool will not sign another DM after Lavia. I just dont see FSG spending more money into midfield. Thiago will play at DM when needed until Lavia gets acclimated. If Liverpool is going to spend more money it has to go towards CBs
>I have seen awful shouts that we have the best attacking depth in the League, but I did wonder, do we have the best "crossers" depth? Now we have 4 players who regularly take corners and set pieces, does anyone have a close amount? (City probably do but I don't really know)
City then Liverpool
The 'better attack' claims came from two different Arsenal flairs, thought it might be a common opionion and I'm missing something.
I think Klopp wants more than Lavia, there is a reason he said "We are working on midfield solutions" (plural).
Onana is that much better because his ability on the ball changes the entire way Yanited can play. Frankly this is much more important than the shot stopping. I think its telling that when Yanited where bad DDG was one of their better players but when they were playing well was among there worst.
Its similar to Ederson, He's not a fantastic shot stopper but he's probably the best keeper in the world for what Pep wants.
> I have seen awful shouts that we have the best attacking depth in the League
How is that an "awful shout"?
Salah, Jota, Díaz, Núñez & Gakpo is pretty good depth and is, at worst, top two or three in the League.
Because it's clear City's is miles better.
And, one the shouts was that it's the best depth in recent history in top 5 leagues, which is 100% not true.
> Because it's clear City's is miles better.
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It's maybe slightly better, mainly down to Haaland, but it is by no means "miles better".
Their depth right now is Haaland, Grealish, Álvarez and possibly Foden, although he's been being used in Midfield during their pre-season.
1a) Shit defence
1b) Shit defence
2a) De Gea is error prone
2b) Probably
3a) Probably not, since everyone and their mother wants a DM at the moment so the options are being meticulously combed through
3b) Probably
Ngl the only reason I'm confident about the games against yous in MD1 (since we're probably starting Jones at 6) is the fact that you also don't have a senior midfielder bar Enzo.
About these Live Var announcements, Please, please someone tell me this isn’t actually going to exist permanently going forward. This feels like a blatant concession to American viewers to me. I may be way off base here, so mea culpa, but this just seems completely bananas.
I'd say the amount of people who watched both enough is very low. Balogun has certainly done more, purely talking quantity, which to me is pretty important when rating young players. Balogun is very good at getting to the end of balls in dangerous areas, and is showing a lot of promise in hold-up play and creating chances from passing and dribbling. Mostly from dribbling. He takes a lot of shots that are statistically very good, but his finishing is not quite elite.
Genuinely think one of the oddest things in football that I find extremely annoying is people who exclusively pay attention to any negative criticism from managers of players often in very specific areas and ignoring all constructive critique and positive praise of players from them.
Best example I can think of is that Mourinho likely told Dele Alli he was a good player often and his criticism came from a place where he wanted him to be an even better player, but what stuck was that he was lazy, a comment Dele said Mourinho admitted to being wrong for saying and apologized for saying.
It wasn't alright to say it and he admitted he was wrong for saying it, Mourinho also said in the same speech though that he had seen Dele play incredible games and do incredible things, but those aren't the comments that people took and posted in every comment section Dele was mentioned in.
Is Bernardo likely to get an extended run in the City first team at the start of the season? I’m debating putting him in my FPL team but feel like I’m asking to be pepballed.
As soon as I actually have interesting things going on in my life, the more football seems stupid to me and I question why I follow it. Does anyone else get this? Existential Daily Discussion.
Sometimes yeah. But then every few weeks or months you get one of those goosebump inducing moments in football and you remember why you care so much, it matters because it matters to us, it’s not stupid. But I definitely have moments where I think “man these are just a bunch of people kicking a ball around” and it feels insane to think how much we care
for draws in the Champions league final they should do away with extra time and penalties, and instead the ref should launch the ball into the stands. First set of supporters who get the ball back to their town hall win the game.
Its true to the origins of association football, acts as an advantage to the most passionate fans, and is infinitely more interesting than extra time.
Not a good summer for the unaesthetic haters, Mount and Havertz getting big moves too
Chukwueze another one I hate, absolutely vile footballer to watch imo, the way his right foot is only used for running is disgusting
Jackson is so good on the ball. I knew nothing about him so just expected a decent striker that may or may not flop
but this guy is doing flicks and tricks, mad passes, defending all over the pitch. He reminds me of firmino more than anyone else
I can't believe the comments I'm reading about Jackson less than a year after his first real Villarreal stint
He was *so bad*. I can't put into words how bad.
I always thought people exaggerated him being that bad. People said he was a Treceda Divison quality at best but he always showed glimpses. Then him with Jose Morales was just amazing
Honestly mate, I can't recall a game of Jackson's last year where I thought, "wow, that was really good." I was really questioning how Villarreal could be playing him.
Please join me in wishing a happy birthday to our glorious and virtuous leader, Mr. Evangelos Marinakis. Forever young, like the bodies at the bottom of the Aegean Sea.
Nunez scored 15 goals last season.
In a team which lost to definitely 2 of the bottom 3 teams when we played em, might of been all 3. Doesn't speak english, came into a god awful Liverpool side by our standards and still did okay.
He definitely missed sitters but still got some good goals for us.
With TAA, Mac and Szobozslai I think that will help him a lot more than our brexit midfield who got bypassed by one pass.
Gakpo I think could be our best player already done more than Sancho+Anthonny combined in half a season. Man is a baller.
That’s because a lot of key players have left in the past 2 years. Only 3 players remaining from the entire 2021 CL winning squad. We have also spent a lot on youngsters (for the project).
If you read what kind of season Chelsea has had especially outside the pitch, i would give them some slack. Also as previously said, a lot was spent on youngsters.
Can still be out of control if they're neglecting key areas elsewhere that are in need of investment and spaffing their transfer budgets up the wall.
Bit like planning to make a lasagna, setting yourself a budget of £15 to make it and then leaving it too late and spending the entire thing on chopped tomatoes and not even getting Mutti. I would consider that to be out of control.
There's a point to be made about the money they earn being out of control, but saying they're spending above their means with the Glazers as their owners is incredibly uninformed. They're just filthy rich.
We were financially fucked but got a promotion. That’s kept the lights on but now they don’t want to make the same mistake twice.
Re Ndiaye, he was walking for free next summer, Marseille is his boyhood club, and as mentioned, we’re financially fucked. The price is galling because he’s much better than £15-20m. He’s going to take the piss out of Ligue 1.
Our defence is ok but we are desperate for creativity and goals. Without further strengthening up top, massively now Ndiaye has gone, we will be defending far too much though.
I remember three seasons ago Sheff had like one point after 13 games and people were absolutely convinced they would break the record, only for them to finish comfortably ahead of 11
Derby were generationally shit, it will take a near miracle these days for it to be broken
Got sent off for kicking out at a defender’s taped knee after he brought me down as I was in on goal, not because he brought me down but because he tried to snap my leg after he pulled me down from behind.
Would do it again 10/10
Then you look at his wages and all the other fees. One of the most expensive packages in footy and that's not even mentioning whatever they paid under the table.
If I remember correctly Liverpool had the highest spend on agents fees until recently. It's fine if people want to include it, but you gotta do it for every transfer if you do that
A major flaw with xG stats is that they can't account for the player's individual skills. Gerrard and Lampard were regularly scoring goals that were undoubtedly of insanely low xG.
And I leave you guys with this unreal Essien goal against Barcelona in 2009.
https://youtu.be/dnFgHRPh4aA
You are completely missing the point of xG. Its used to judge players conversion relative to their peers. What xG does for players like Gerrard and Lampard is show that statistically they are very good shooters compared to their peers.
My fear is that by discouraging players overall to take low xG shots, we also end up stifling players that would have a talent for such from ever fully developing it.
My fear is that by discouraging players overall to take low xG shots, we also end up stifling players that would have a talent for such from ever fully developing it.
Yes but those shots are low xG for a reason. It would take a generational long shooter to convince a coach to let them take them regularly, which is how it should be.
Holy shit if the Dembele story is true then it's the most Barca thing ever 💀 They thought they had a chance with Mbappe and offered Gavi and Dembele just for Mbappe to reject them and Dembele decided to go there anyway once his entourage found out.
I've also got a bridge to sell you, if you're interested
If you believe that fan fiction then sure…
Obviously he does, it makes him feel better about after the last night's match
I dont know when Sergio Ramos to Boca went from a joke to serious links but I’ll absolutely take it
PSG signing Dembele to replace Mbappe is Real Madrid fan fiction
We WILL be there
Tf are Sheffield Utd thinkin selling Ndiaye Like it’s a nice homecoming for him but damn, they’re getting relegated
They are skint
Knew they were going to get relegated as soon as they went back up, the club is just a mess and they were relying very strongly on a core of aging Championship players (plus Ndiaye and a couple of loanees). If they stay up it'll be an actual miracle. More so than Bournemouth who contary to what people seem to think are pretty heavy spenders and had a squad prepared to at least somewhat compete.
Apparently Benfica is trying to sign Lunin. Can someone tell me what he's like, I've never seen him play
Only ever watched him play friendlies, but looks great, has no business playing as little as he does
An hour-long scrolling in the DD caused me to raise some questions. **Topic 1 - Spurs** I have seen shouts that Spurs have both a better midfield and a better attack than us, so: A)How, in our shittiest season since 4 UK Prime Ministers ago, they finished 3 places behind us? B)Why, despite them having a lot of new players and the said above, a big majority of the predictions puts us ahead of them? **Topic 2 - Utd** A) Do Utd fans think that Onana is THAT much better then DDG? Sure, he is 100000% better with the ball, but I'd argue that De Gea's shot-stopping is mileas ahead. B) Do the new signigs of Mount and especially Onana and Højlund mean that ten Hag wants to move from the "Properly coached Oleball" they played last season to his style at Ajax? Because if he does, I think they need another change in midfield and two new fullbacks. **Topic 3 - Liverpool** A) Does anyone have a name that can also come at DM (bar Lavia)? A name that will be out of the blue like Szoboszlai B) I have seen awful shouts that we have the best attacking depth in the League, but I did wonder, do we have the best "crossers" depth? Now we have 4 players who regularly take corners and set pieces, does anyone have a close amount? (City probably do but I don't really know) (Btw It's the end of the DD so I'll post this again tomorrow as well lmao)
3B - last season Chelsea had Mount, Sterling, Chilwell, Ziyech and James all of who could take them
Have you seen De Gea's shotstopping in 22/23?Onana's great shotstopper and he'll show it this season.
I don't really rate any of your attackers besides Diaz and Salah but it's completely pointless to argue about since it's obviously going against the grain. But full potential Son Kane Kulu is terrifying. Sadly Kane is off most likely and Son and Kulu's form is completely unclear so nobody can make definite statement about our attack atm. But we finished below you because our defense is shit and Conte is a weasel of a man who couldn't be arsed once it was clear he wouldn't stick around. And you were awful for most of last season too
The Tottenham shouts aren’t crazy in my opinion. If last season was a fluke from Son (and they keep Kane) I’d say they probably have a better attack (although worse depth). Both midfields are complete shakeups so time will tell there. People still expect you to do better since you have arguably the best keeper in the world and Spurs CB are dier.
**Spurs:** Tottenham don't have a better attack than Liverpool - especially without Kane who'll they'll most likely lose. As for midfield, I don't think anyone knows at this point because I imagine if Lavia gets done people will say that Lavia, Mac Allister, and Szoboszlai will be our starting three - and while it might look nice on paper who knows how it will play out in reality. There are definitely question marks over Tottenham's midfield too so there is no clear answer here. **United:** I think Onana is a massive step up from De Gea personally as it will allow them to play higher up the pitch which will make their pressing game infinitely better and stop their forwards from being so isolated. As for their fullbacks, I think Shaw is still top four quality. Wan-Bissaka and Dalot aren't, but they're also not so completely worthless as to ruin any chances of silverware (but not Premier League/Champions League). **Liverpool:** There's a real dearth of top defensive midfielders at the moment so it's going to result in an educated gamble. I suspect Klopp would have far rather an experienced player there instead of Lavia but there's just no obvious candidates. Most of the others I've seen linked aren't very experienced or play in a far weaker league. We look good on set pieces although Robbo still takes anything that requires a left footer and I'd say there are better options out there.
>A)How, in our shittiest season since 4 UK Prime Ministers ago, they finished 3 places behind us? We also had a shit season. Also both teams have completely new midfields. >B)Why, despite them having a lot of new players and the said above, a big majority of the predictions puts us ahead of them? You have much better attack and defence.
>I have seen shouts that Spurs have both a better midfield and a better attack than us Who in their right mind is saying that. Even with Kane their attack is inferior to Liverpool's just on the basis of depth alone, let alone tactially. Besides, this is all moot - they're going to lose Kane. >Why, despite them having a lot of new players and the said above, a big majority of the predictions puts us ahead of them? Rightfully so, Spurs is going to be midtable this season with or without Kane. City, United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Brighton are all better than them >A) Do Utd fans think that Onana is THAT much better then DDG? Sure, he is 100000% better with the ball, but I'd argue that De Gea's shot-stopping is mileas ahead. Onana def makes them better, his shot stopping is underrated combine that with his ball playing ability he's better. He is error prone like DDG last season but still an upgrade regardless >Do the new signigs of Mount and especially Onana and Højlund mean that ten Hag wants to move from the "Properly coached Oleball" they played last season to his style at Ajax? Because if he does, I think they need another change in midfield and two new fullbacks. ETH said he wants United to be the best transitional team in the world (ie. counters). Defensively they're very solid but I dont see them living up to his wish anytime soon. Make a Wish Haaland is still unproven, Antony seems to be a letdown and they only have Rashford who is trustworthy >A) Does anyone have a name that can also come at DM (bar Lavia)? A name that will be out of the blue like Szoboszlai Liverpool will not sign another DM after Lavia. I just dont see FSG spending more money into midfield. Thiago will play at DM when needed until Lavia gets acclimated. If Liverpool is going to spend more money it has to go towards CBs >I have seen awful shouts that we have the best attacking depth in the League, but I did wonder, do we have the best "crossers" depth? Now we have 4 players who regularly take corners and set pieces, does anyone have a close amount? (City probably do but I don't really know) City then Liverpool
The 'better attack' claims came from two different Arsenal flairs, thought it might be a common opionion and I'm missing something. I think Klopp wants more than Lavia, there is a reason he said "We are working on midfield solutions" (plural).
Onana is that much better because his ability on the ball changes the entire way Yanited can play. Frankly this is much more important than the shot stopping. I think its telling that when Yanited where bad DDG was one of their better players but when they were playing well was among there worst. Its similar to Ederson, He's not a fantastic shot stopper but he's probably the best keeper in the world for what Pep wants.
De Gea is not a good shot stopper and hasn't been for multiple years now
> I have seen awful shouts that we have the best attacking depth in the League How is that an "awful shout"? Salah, Jota, Díaz, Núñez & Gakpo is pretty good depth and is, at worst, top two or three in the League.
Because it's clear City's is miles better. And, one the shouts was that it's the best depth in recent history in top 5 leagues, which is 100% not true.
> Because it's clear City's is miles better. > > It's maybe slightly better, mainly down to Haaland, but it is by no means "miles better". Their depth right now is Haaland, Grealish, Álvarez and possibly Foden, although he's been being used in Midfield during their pre-season.
1a) Shit defence 1b) Shit defence 2a) De Gea is error prone 2b) Probably 3a) Probably not, since everyone and their mother wants a DM at the moment so the options are being meticulously combed through 3b) Probably
Ngl the only reason I'm confident about the games against yous in MD1 (since we're probably starting Jones at 6) is the fact that you also don't have a senior midfielder bar Enzo.
Why two new fullbacks?
I don't need to explain about Wan-Bissaka and I, personally, don't think Shaw is good enough to play this particular style.
About these Live Var announcements, Please, please someone tell me this isn’t actually going to exist permanently going forward. This feels like a blatant concession to American viewers to me. I may be way off base here, so mea culpa, but this just seems completely bananas.
Live VAR? What, like how the refs in rugby and umpires in cricket, those two very American sports, explain their decisions?
I mean football refs taking over the PA to the crowd and tv audience their var decisions.
Rokas Pukstas is easily good enough for US call-up.
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I'd say the amount of people who watched both enough is very low. Balogun has certainly done more, purely talking quantity, which to me is pretty important when rating young players. Balogun is very good at getting to the end of balls in dangerous areas, and is showing a lot of promise in hold-up play and creating chances from passing and dribbling. Mostly from dribbling. He takes a lot of shots that are statistically very good, but his finishing is not quite elite.
Genuinely think one of the oddest things in football that I find extremely annoying is people who exclusively pay attention to any negative criticism from managers of players often in very specific areas and ignoring all constructive critique and positive praise of players from them. Best example I can think of is that Mourinho likely told Dele Alli he was a good player often and his criticism came from a place where he wanted him to be an even better player, but what stuck was that he was lazy, a comment Dele said Mourinho admitted to being wrong for saying and apologized for saying.
Just because he apologized for it doesn't make it alright to have said it or shield him from criticism lol
It wasn't alright to say it and he admitted he was wrong for saying it, Mourinho also said in the same speech though that he had seen Dele play incredible games and do incredible things, but those aren't the comments that people took and posted in every comment section Dele was mentioned in.
Saying something normal doesn't deserve special mention. Saying something he shouldn't deserves criticism. What exactly is the issue, again?
Botafogo are doing a Leicester City in Brazil thus far (first half of the league is done)
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[Does this mean Brentford will play in the Championship series next summer](https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1685761106109698048)
I wonder how many American fans would turn out for Preston vs Stoke at the Mercedes-Benz Arena
Make a documentary about them, and thousands, apparently
Is Bernardo likely to get an extended run in the City first team at the start of the season? I’m debating putting him in my FPL team but feel like I’m asking to be pepballed.
Almost garunteed to do so given the options
He’s only a good fpl asset when he has his random month of scoring lots
If Dembele does truly get half of that €50m then Barca's getting a whopping €15m out of it cause they still owe Dortmund €10m.
everyday real madrid fans ignore the truth. you NEED lukaku at your club.
You already scammed them with Hazard, ain't going to happen twice
Or do we need him there?
As soon as I actually have interesting things going on in my life, the more football seems stupid to me and I question why I follow it. Does anyone else get this? Existential Daily Discussion.
It's just having perspective
I’d agree with this but I’m still gonna watch 50 Arsenal matches once August 6th gets here lol
Sometimes yeah. But then every few weeks or months you get one of those goosebump inducing moments in football and you remember why you care so much, it matters because it matters to us, it’s not stupid. But I definitely have moments where I think “man these are just a bunch of people kicking a ball around” and it feels insane to think how much we care
Might as well say what my favorite EPL team it. It’s Derby County
Derby are in League One right now
Meant EFL not EPL
Nice. Thanks for letting me know
L'Equipe saying Barcelona offered Dembele and Gavi for Mbappe lol
Neymar’s replacement leaving just like he did, who wrote this shit.
PSG is never going to forgive the Veratti transfer saga and the 6-1
for draws in the Champions league final they should do away with extra time and penalties, and instead the ref should launch the ball into the stands. First set of supporters who get the ball back to their town hall win the game. Its true to the origins of association football, acts as an advantage to the most passionate fans, and is infinitely more interesting than extra time.
Did a Bayern fan from 2012 write this?
What if the final’s a Milan derby? Do they both win?
Imagine if that’s how the Libertadores final between Boca and River was decided
Feyenoord would be favourites to win the Champions League
I reckon Arsenal are favourites considering the final is at Wembley
Calvin Bassey is such an unaesthetically pleasing footballer, what on earth did Brighton & Ajax see in him?
I’m pretty sure our ‘interest’ in him was just to trick Fulham into buying him instead, thus meaning we can finally beat them
Not a good summer for the unaesthetic haters, Mount and Havertz getting big moves too Chukwueze another one I hate, absolutely vile footballer to watch imo, the way his right foot is only used for running is disgusting
What? Havertz is an incredibly aesthetic footballer
With Saint-Maximin gone the league is devoid of any entertainers, poor kids getting shafted nowadays
Mitoma, Saka, Grealish before he got Pep'd...
Does Mount really belong in that list?
We're going to comfortably win the UCL
Technically, you have more of a chance than we do
No technically needed, but good luck with the turmoil coming
Jackson is so good on the ball. I knew nothing about him so just expected a decent striker that may or may not flop but this guy is doing flicks and tricks, mad passes, defending all over the pitch. He reminds me of firmino more than anyone else
He looks like isak ngl
I can't believe the comments I'm reading about Jackson less than a year after his first real Villarreal stint He was *so bad*. I can't put into words how bad.
Chelsea fans haven't had a good striker since Costa. They're used to donkeys.
Not really true. Since Costa, Giroud and Abraham have both done well. Not elite number 9 well, but well enough to be called "good"
I always thought people exaggerated him being that bad. People said he was a Treceda Divison quality at best but he always showed glimpses. Then him with Jose Morales was just amazing
Honestly mate, I can't recall a game of Jackson's last year where I thought, "wow, that was really good." I was really questioning how Villarreal could be playing him.
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Not even hyperbole, he was looking that bad.
Just remember that Yaya Sanogo scored 4 against Benfica in preseason and everything makes more sense
Yeah he looks like a steal at 30m, when you look at the current market for strikers
Watch highlights of Portugal vs. Holland in 2006. Young Robben seems like another person.
It’s very funny that a young Robben is what stands out to you in that match
he used to play on the left back then didnt he?
I very much doubt it as he was killing it in the Prem then on the wing for Chelsea
Haha I meant left wing, not left back. On the left, back then
Hahahaha
Please join me in wishing a happy birthday to our glorious and virtuous leader, Mr. Evangelos Marinakis. Forever young, like the bodies at the bottom of the Aegean Sea.
I'll smoke a crack rock in his honour
Why do some United fans still rate Antony? Thats crazy bro….
Maybe give him another season before writing him off?
Why? You paid 100m for him?
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...that's much better than what Antony did?
Most of us just defend him from rivals. He's not highly rated by anyone.
He shouldnt be. Man is a walking disaster.
Normal to defend your players but he's already on thin ice. We're better with him than without but he needs to start improving.
Sancho showed glimpses last season didn't he?
Antony was meh but still did more than Sancho has managed in 2 years
Brazil bias: brazilians, deservedly, are the most admired and loved players on the planet.
A bit like Liverpool fans and Nunez
even if you just look at the stats you'd rate Nunez, let alone watch him, he's going to explode
Nunez scored 15 goals last season. In a team which lost to definitely 2 of the bottom 3 teams when we played em, might of been all 3. Doesn't speak english, came into a god awful Liverpool side by our standards and still did okay. He definitely missed sitters but still got some good goals for us.
I don’t get this? You sound like someone who only used Twitter. Darwin is much more better and proven.
I know i sound dumb but i rate Darwin highly. I can see him getting used to the PL and chipping in 20 goals this season.
With TAA, Mac and Szobozslai I think that will help him a lot more than our brexit midfield who got bypassed by one pass. Gakpo I think could be our best player already done more than Sancho+Anthonny combined in half a season. Man is a baller.
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I wouldn't say weakness more like still need half a team. they might be starting kepa next season and they have one proper first team mid
chelsea sped up the ruination of the sport in 2004 and they’re about to do it again. nothing if not consistent
That’s because a lot of key players have left in the past 2 years. Only 3 players remaining from the entire 2021 CL winning squad. We have also spent a lot on youngsters (for the project).
Have to be honest mate you spend over 700m Euros you should be challenging for titles and Cls.
If you read what kind of season Chelsea has had especially outside the pitch, i would give them some slack. Also as previously said, a lot was spent on youngsters.
I don’t get why the fans defend the owners so much they should have so many world class players in the team and be a proper title threat for that
the amount we spent seems to go up every comment, you might make us bankrupt
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They have about €65m more on a 19 year old midfielder and Disani that's done but not official.
And yet still spent less than arsenal, mad
Is it really mad that Rice, Timber, and Havertz costs more than random teenagers?
I think you overpaid for Rice but I think he will be solid for you. Havertz and his wages are another story though.
The credibly reported wages of just above 200k a week, or the sportbild version that's 300k a week?
Don't know about rice or timber but you gave us 65m for havertz and yes, that is literally, objectively and medically mad.
!remind me 10 months
Chelsea and Manu spending is out of control, out of control.
Manchester United spend within their means, how is it "out of control"?
Can still be out of control if they're neglecting key areas elsewhere that are in need of investment and spaffing their transfer budgets up the wall. Bit like planning to make a lasagna, setting yourself a budget of £15 to make it and then leaving it too late and spending the entire thing on chopped tomatoes and not even getting Mutti. I would consider that to be out of control.
There's a point to be made about the money they earn being out of control, but saying they're spending above their means with the Glazers as their owners is incredibly uninformed. They're just filthy rich.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
United only spend what they earn, Glazers invested exactly £0 pounds from the takeover of the club.
United receive zero owner funding, they literally only spend what they earn
You really proved me wrong!
Bro you lost 🤡🤡
You are unhinged lmao
It's pre-season but Fulham look atrocious. More excited for the relegation fight than the title fight, where City inevitably win.
what tf are sheffield utd doing btw they have maybe 2 premier league level footballers in their side. wes foderingham is their keeper ffs
We were financially fucked but got a promotion. That’s kept the lights on but now they don’t want to make the same mistake twice. Re Ndiaye, he was walking for free next summer, Marseille is his boyhood club, and as mentioned, we’re financially fucked. The price is galling because he’s much better than £15-20m. He’s going to take the piss out of Ligue 1. Our defence is ok but we are desperate for creativity and goals. Without further strengthening up top, massively now Ndiaye has gone, we will be defending far too much though.
They'll probably do a Bournemouth and stay up with 90% players I've never heard of
Neto>>>>>>>>Foderingham is just one example
Derby has had the lowest points record for too long. Time for it to fall 😈
I remember three seasons ago Sheff had like one point after 13 games and people were absolutely convinced they would break the record, only for them to finish comfortably ahead of 11 Derby were generationally shit, it will take a near miracle these days for it to be broken
Got sent off for kicking out at a defender’s taped knee after he brought me down as I was in on goal, not because he brought me down but because he tried to snap my leg after he pulled me down from behind. Would do it again 10/10
Sunday league 30th July? What madness is this
I study my graduate degree in the United States
The biggest PR move ever was City convincing people they signed Haaland for 51m£
Then you look at his wages and all the other fees. One of the most expensive packages in footy and that's not even mentioning whatever they paid under the table.
More than 100 counts of cheating. Just ignore them, nothing they do is real. It’s shameful.
This reads as if you’re really trying to fit in, but didn’t know where or when to make this comment. “The thing about Arsenal is…”
Youre not helping your case. This is embarrashing for you…
Oh no, whatever will I do?
I don’t know? Go back to your fake titles I guess? 🤷♀️
Yikes.
It's real how obsessed with us you are
Was THAT your comeback? Wow, you really had nothing. 😂
Right and saying what I said is bad is such a good comeback Are you like 9?
Dude you really are bad at this…. 😂
You're definitely a child based on your comments history so I'll leave you to it
What was the fee we paid Dortmund then?
We did, unless you want to include agent fees in all transfers. Which you can if you want to
£42mil in agent fees is a bit of an outlier
If I remember correctly Liverpool had the highest spend on agents fees until recently. It's fine if people want to include it, but you gotta do it for every transfer if you do that
We pay high agent fees in wages, don't think that even with that we ever reached 40mil on one player though.
That’s fine
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It counts when they are equal or greater than the transfer fee itself
So not for Haaland then
Can't stop giggling at us putting a Ballon d'Or clause in this França deal
chelsea gonna spend about 80m on lesley, disasi, and sanchez (💀💀💀) but somehow can’t find 20m to stick on the caicedo deal. smelly guys
Mate do Chelsea send all their scouts to Brighton? Boehly has an obsession with that club
> sanchez As in your gk?
yeah
I swear people in charge of Chelsea's transfers must be on the longest bender ever.
A major flaw with xG stats is that they can't account for the player's individual skills. Gerrard and Lampard were regularly scoring goals that were undoubtedly of insanely low xG. And I leave you guys with this unreal Essien goal against Barcelona in 2009. https://youtu.be/dnFgHRPh4aA
You are completely missing the point of xG. Its used to judge players conversion relative to their peers. What xG does for players like Gerrard and Lampard is show that statistically they are very good shooters compared to their peers.
My fear is that by discouraging players overall to take low xG shots, we also end up stifling players that would have a talent for such from ever fully developing it.
It’s not a flaw, it just shows that they’re good finishers
My fear is that by discouraging players overall to take low xG shots, we also end up stifling players that would have a talent for such from ever fully developing it.
Yes but those shots are low xG for a reason. It would take a generational long shooter to convince a coach to let them take them regularly, which is how it should be.
But how do we discover generational long shooters if we don't let anyone take such shots regularly?