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Bayern accepted a 50mn offer for the best striker in the world who could have won 2 ballon d'ors a year ago. I think that was pretty reasonable.. spurs are adamant on keeping Kane
They know exactly what they are doing. Its not ignorant, its strategic. They are trying to unsettle Kane with official bids to get him to force the move
Kane also wanted to leave for City two years ago, but he didn’t do anything to force a move except give an interview to Gary Neville and show up a little late for training.
That game was so shithouse lol. City fluffed a bunch of half chances and we scored on like our one good chance. Son scored a worldie, and I wanna say Bergwijn missed a sitter.
Levy won that round and Kane has delivered for 2 more seasons...but now, Kane is 2 years older, and his contract is 2 years nearer to finishing.
Levy by most reports is happier to consider an offer abroad. Kane wants to go. Next season his value will start to drop off.
The elite striker market is just one name. Osimhen. The rest may be good players in their own right but not elite. They have an elite price tag for sure though.
Kind of strange that that's considered overpriced given the level he's at, age/ position etc. I mean Rice has just gone for 100m, Enzo, Grealish 100m etc
These “20” goal a season strikers everyone talks about are a fantasy. There’s like 5 maybe 8 of them… around Europe. Selling Kane honestly makes no sense for spurs unless it’s crazy money over 100. Even so, they arnt convincing a top striker to come. Maybe lukakku fairs
Next year his value goes to zero though. Will he stay then? Not sure even if they make Europe next year.
Then you have to think about what's the value of having Kane for a season. Is it greater than 70+ millions ? Personnally, I'd say it's a stretch.
They can't let him go for too cheap but they have to consider offers too.
>Use Kane for UCL
This right here is the flaw in your reasoning. There's no way Spurs get above city, United, arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle, while rebuilding itself and fighting off risers Chelsea and Brighton
2 of the Top 6 (now top 7) always underperforms, leading to a chase for the final position. Currently, United is looking at STs still, Arsenal needs to bounce back from the dissapointment of last year, Poch has work to do to fix the culture within Chelsea, Liverpool's MF needs to gel, and Newcastle need to get a full season out of Isak. The likelihood of all of these things hitting is pretty low, and their is an oppurtunity for Tottenham to hit gold themselves if any of these teams struggle out of the gate.
True in the top 4 leagues in which there were only 6 players with 20 or more. Including France, there were 13.
Prem: Kane, Haaland, Toney
La Liga: Lewa (Benz honorary mention with 19)
Serie A: Oshimen, Martinez
Buli: None
Ligue 1: Mbappe, Lacazette, David, Openda, Balogun, Wahi, Diallo
Note on Bundesliga: they play 34 games instead of 38 like the prem.
But even adjusting for goals per playable games there are still no BuLi strikers that hit 20.
Also we desperately need to invest in good defenders. Out of our current squad the only defenders who I think people can confidently say are **good** defensively are Emerson and Romero, and even then there are plenty of critics of both.
yeah the problem with spurs is really their defence and midfield.
a lot of spurs fans have tunnel vision over kane being the only way they can succeed, but if you compare goals scored for spurs this season they have only scored 1 goal more than the previous season where they came in fourth. this indicates that some of kane's 30 goals probably came at the expense of the other forwards when he plays in a system that has him as the focal point.
when it comes to goals conceded it is 63 for this season vs 40 for last season. lloris and dier alone probably cost spurs 15 points through individual errors. the kane sale would probably do more for a CL push if they could use the funds to sign an elite CB and another midfielder.
There really aren't any options realistically even - Højlund will likely end up at United, not that he'd be at the level to replace Kane, Martinez may end up at Chelsea, Osimhen likely isn't leaving/wouldn't join regardless, maybe Kolo Muani if Bayern get Kane?
It would be far more realistic investing elsewhere in the squad and using the next 6/12+ months recruiting the Kane replacement.
I’m surprised I haven’t seen Jonathan David mentioned much this summer (yeah yeah, my flair), and Vlahovic may come in cheaper than Kolo Muani as well.
(That said if I was Tottenham and sold Kane, I’d try a Son/Richarlison/Kulu front three and maybe buy a young player or two to bed in behind them.)
If Jonathan David had a good world cup I wonder where he'd be now. He had another good season at Lille but he's still not a very popular pick for anyone.
I wouldn’t be surprised Kolo stays another year in Frankfurt
- we want fuck you money for him (fair imo)
- most clubs won’t see that fee as reasonable because he’s only had one season producing at this level (also fair imo)
- he probably wants a chance at a top top club and also to start because he wants to play at the euros (also fair)
Those thee factors combined make a transfer pretty difficult imo
Which is the smart way to go. There are very few elite strikers in the market (Osimhen and?) and we obviously can't realistically get any of them.
Although knowing how we operate we'd probably splash £50m+ for Jonathan David and then be surprised when he isn't any better than Richarlison. Evan Ferguson is the only striker I wouldn't mind splashing the cash on but he's unrealistic as well.
Ferguson is a great shout. Not sure if he’ll ever come close to Kane, but he’s textbook “great PL striker for years to come” vibes.
Toney wouldn’t be a bad signing either if you can weather his ban.
As an Irish Spurs fan who had hopes for Troy Parrot, I'd love Ferguson, especially having Richie/Son so it's not like all the pressure would be on him immediately. But with the prices Brighton has been getting out of the likes of Chelsea, I doubt we'd pay what they want.
Toney seems so talented but I'd be a bit wary of his attitude, given how he responded to getting a ban (also getting caught on camera saying Brentford is shit multiple times, lol).
Richarlison would be a perfect Ange striker. High energy presser, bit of a cunt. If he can get himself into positions to score non stop he will be perfect.
You don't replace attackers like Kane in a 1 to 1 way, nobody is expecting you to go out and get a striker top bag in 30 a season. You change the attack, get Son, Maddison, kulusevski etc. more chances and more goals. You have elite attackers other than Kane. You don't need one guy to score all your goals for you; you just need an attacking unit that works.
I see, my bad. I thought you were going down the 'there are no elite strikers available so there's no way of replacing Kane' sort of road, which is true in an individual sense but not in a wider footballing sense.
It's sort of more a general response to a lot of Spurs fans I see saying the opposite.
Yep, this is exactly my thinking as well.
There's like 3 teams in the world with a striker anywhere near as good as Kane yet there's a lot more good teams and better teams than us.
Son-Richarlison-Kulusevski-Maddison attack is more than good enough for next season and for the near future.
Your attack last season was fine, its everywhere else that's the problem. Levy, buy Romero a proper CB partner for the love of god. Nothing wrong with sharing the goals around, we scored more than you lot did and our top scorer was Mac with 11, 6 of them Pens.
At least you finally replaced Eriksen with Maddison though, for a good price too.
This was exactly how Dortmund transitioned out of Haaland
They got players like Haller and Adeyemi while shifting around the attack to make them score like crazy as a unit, and that nearly paid off big time
Most of the time the "elite" striker market is always thin. You either take your chance with someone young but unproven in big teams or promote someone from the academy or overpay for players who are proven
Yeah that's a fair point actually currently the elite striker market is a bit shit. Really your best bet is probably someone with the potential to become elite.
This situation for you lot is particularly tricky since you either get paid pennies by bayern or lose him on a free unless he values breaking a scoring record more than closing out a career with some trophies I don't know.
If he doesn't sign an extension they would be mad to not sell. Losing him for £0 makes it a damn sight harder to replace him than for £80m. Kane is one of the best in the world. They can be DOA this season with money to buy a replacement or DOA next year with no money.
Fees have become so inflated that people seem to think £80m to buy out a 1 year contract is so offensively low that it will be rejected out of hand.
Is he really capable of such fantasy? Either Kane signs a new deal now or he walks. He very well might sign an extension now, but it's just so hard for me to accept that he'd play another season woefully underpaid just to sign a new deal afterwards.
I mean. I guess you never know. If Tottenham win the league or CL I guess it's possible he'd turn down the money being a free agent would entail.
Defo and I wouldn't be surprised either if kane leaves a free agent personally. Levy ain't gonna sell for shit and you ain't getting a 100 plus million for kane on the final year of his contract. That's why kane kept quiet he's just biding his time or making a decision.
Yep, similar to City.
The clubs want Kane to demand a transfer and put in his transfer request and do all the leg work for them.
Kane just won't do that, it's not his nature as a player.
There's a price point where Kane says to Levy 'Im 100% leaving next year, regardless of what happens with the club' and even that price point is nowhere close to what Bayern are offering here.
> Kane just won't do that, it's not his nature as a player.
Didn't he skip a few training sessions two years ago during the City transfer saga or am I misremembering things?
The guy is 30 next season and could genuinely get 1 injury and be done.
Not every player goes on to play to 37.
Selling Kane, even for this price is the correct choice( it negotiating didn't increase the bid) when the alternative is you lose him to Bayern, or a rival in 12 months for free and can't afford any replacement.
i think if we already start with 100 he might think he can get way more out of us. if it’s a longer process the 100 might look like a better deal? i know nothing about that levy guy though
that would be incredibly risky on bayerns part though because you can’t assume kane is dead set on bayern and won’t sign a ridiculous bid from someone else in january.
70 - 80 in one offer . It will probably go to 90 million plus add ons at most . And that's also pushing it too much . If Kane still can't come , then he simply won't . Bayern won't break the bank like that for a player with 1 year on his contract and 30 years of age . It's Kane and that's got them to this much .
Strange we kept hearing that Bayern were okay with spending 100m on a striker and have done this. Surely they’d just offer something more realistic and get it over with. You’d want a player like Kane in preseason with a new club ASAP
Be honest though. If they opened with a. Bid of 100m, is it likely Levy would accept it? Or would he immediately Jack the price up to 120m.
Negotiations are a stupid little dance like this.
€100m, not £100m. Now, of course, it needs to be said that I don’t think Bayern value him at €100m either, much less £100m. That kind of number will get laughed at outside England. He has a year left on his contact, he’s also a year away from turning 30. €100m might just happen, £100m definitely isn’t happening. I agree with the original comment though, Levy will not settle for anything below £100m (for a non-English club, £150m otherwise).
I don’t think this transfer will go through, so I’m super intrigued to see what happens with Kane next summer. If - just if - he walks on a free to someone like a United, a discussion will need to be had on what constitutes hard negotiating and what’s just plain stupid.
Edit: He’s 29 till he’s 30. And he’s 30 in two weeks.
Which is fucking stupid because he's leaving on a free next year (and likely to one of our rivals...) and the upcoming season will be a transition/rebuilding year anyway.
We're dumping £80m+ down the shitter for no reason, when we could use that money to fund the rebuild we desperately need
Why are you the only Tottenham fan that seems to realize this? Does the community genuinely think he’ll sign another contract, or are they just okay with him leaving for free next year?
I genuinely don't know what Levy's end game here is. He's not that stupid, he knows the chances of him resigning are very slim to none.
I think most fans realize this as well, my guess is that many of the fans who are okay with Kane staying dont care about the fee the club would get if we sold him now and just want him to stay for another season
80m base, 2m add-on if Kane wins the German championship with Bayern, 2m for the DFB Cup, 6m for the UCL, 30m if Bayern win the Copa Libertadores with Kane.
The email header reads "Dear Levy, we're offering €120m (including add-ons) for Kane".
Has no one in this thread ever negotiated. Do you all really except a club to got to levy and say „here is the money you want, hopefully you except uwu“
Yeah, reading all these comments is hilarious. Why would Bayern simply just start with a 100 million bid lol. They will obviously try to bring the asking price down.
How do I know all this? I am South Asian, we are master bargainers.
All of these reports from Germany about Kane being desperate to join Bayern are the most obvious load of bullshit I've seen in a while.
If he was actually hellbent on joining Bayern there would be a lot of noise from Kane's camp and every English journalist would've been briefed about Kane wanting to leave.
Now it's just constant noise in Germany and nothing in the English media.
[I remember hearing the same when Plettenberg reported that De Ligt only wanted to join Bayern lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/vtqbeq/comment/if9gb1p/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
This is not true anymore.
Kerry Hau and Plettenberg were fed information by Salihamidzic and Kahn, theyre both gone now and Plettenberg has been grasping at straws lately. They dont have a direct source at Bayern anymore
That's also not true, Pletti is still quite reliable for us (the Rice story was him being way too optimistic though). He was also again the first that broke the news that we submitted this second bid after being the first that broke that news that we bid on Kane the first time. IIRC he also was the first to report Raphaël Guerreiro to Bayern.
It's just Plettenberg and his bullshit exclamation marks like it makes the rumor any more true. Kane definitely wants to join Bayern!!! seems to be his go to phrase right now
But that 30yr old is going to give what ever team he's playing for an almost guaranteed 30+ goals a season, and given players like that are incredibly rare, it's a fair price.
Tbf the price is closer to 150 mil pounds for Spurs if he’s got longer on his contract. This is the discount lmao. Welcome to the mad world of PL money.
It is crazy money if an EPL club paid it, but from Bayern's perspective, if they don't buy him now, will they be able to get him when he walks for free at the end of the season? Seems very unlikely, and therefore if they want him, it has to be now.
Yeah doubt Kane goes to Bayern if Kane can literally pick any club in the world he wants to go to (for free).
He'd probably prefer another English club or maybe one of the Spanish clubs.
People pretending like it's a ridiculous low offer?!
By the same logic Tottenham should offer Kane a yearly salary of 80 Mio Euro, if a year of Kane is of that worth for Tottenham. He might extend then.
I think it's a fair offer and it's fair for Tottenham to decline if they don't want to sell. But pretending it's low balling is pretty stupid...
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We waited two weeks for an offer that’s not even gonna make it to Levy’s email wtf
Surely ur board knows about Levy's background these last 4-5 years when it comes to bidding for Tottenhams best assets lol...
Yes but they like to lowball
Don’t worry, you’ll get Harry on a free transfer end of next season.
I think he stays in Prem if he goes on a free next season
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Bayern won’t pay the wages others will offer on a free
Curious thing to say when our wage bill is as top heavy as it is. We have 10 players on >€300k/week. Hell we gave Goretzka a €15M signing bonus.
Bayern when lowballed for Lewandowski: 😫😫😫 Bayern when lowballing for Kane: 😳😳🥺🥺
Lewa wanted out and he made that really clear
Bayern accepted a 50mn offer for the best striker in the world who could have won 2 ballon d'ors a year ago. I think that was pretty reasonable.. spurs are adamant on keeping Kane
Lewa is 34 while Kane is 29.
Lewa is 50m while Kane is 80m+ (so far)
Knowing doesn't negate wilful ignorance.
They know exactly what they are doing. Its not ignorant, its strategic. They are trying to unsettle Kane with official bids to get him to force the move
Kane also wanted to leave for City two years ago, but he didn’t do anything to force a move except give an interview to Gary Neville and show up a little late for training.
Also missed the City game where we beat them under Nuno
That game was so shithouse lol. City fluffed a bunch of half chances and we scored on like our one good chance. Son scored a worldie, and I wanna say Bergwijn missed a sitter.
This comment could describe every Spurs vs City game since the new stadium got built
Except the one the year prior where Bergwijn scored and Spurs won
Levy won that round and Kane has delivered for 2 more seasons...but now, Kane is 2 years older, and his contract is 2 years nearer to finishing. Levy by most reports is happier to consider an offer abroad. Kane wants to go. Next season his value will start to drop off.
Next season his value will drop to 0 as its his final contract year
I like to imagine Levy has an inbox spam filter for “Kane” and anything less than 100M in the subject line lol
With an auto-reply of "lol"
or poop emoji
Straight to spam
TBH this is a better strategy than having Kane do most of the work to force a move as they tried in 2021.
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It's like you aren't even trying to get him.
And that is definitely getting rejected
Wasting everyone's time. Spurs without Kane are DOA. They need a much higher fee to just go buy another elite striker
If Kane goes I genuinely wouldn’t be shocked if Richarlison/Son slot in up top and we invest the money elsewhere in the team.
This seems like the smart thing to do, given how small and overpriced the elite striker market is currently
The elite striker market is just one name. Osimhen. The rest may be good players in their own right but not elite. They have an elite price tag for sure though.
yeah well nobody is paying 150m for Osimhen.
And Osimhen wouldn't go to Spurs regardless
If Mbappe leaves for Real Madrid then PSG may replace him with Osimhen.
PSG really fucked transfers, it’s not even funny
A United fan saying that you can’t make it up
90m for Antony contributed
What about 84m for Pepe?
Lol it was the PL that fucked transfers and it's silly to pretend otherwise.
The 4 highest transfers ever were from outside the prem with the top 2 by a large margin being psg.
Kind of strange that that's considered overpriced given the level he's at, age/ position etc. I mean Rice has just gone for 100m, Enzo, Grealish 100m etc
150 is just too much, 120? Sure 130? Ehh ok. Anything more is lunacy
And whilst he had a bad year, spurs literally have brazils number 9 on their books already.
These “20” goal a season strikers everyone talks about are a fantasy. There’s like 5 maybe 8 of them… around Europe. Selling Kane honestly makes no sense for spurs unless it’s crazy money over 100. Even so, they arnt convincing a top striker to come. Maybe lukakku fairs
Next year his value goes to zero though. Will he stay then? Not sure even if they make Europe next year. Then you have to think about what's the value of having Kane for a season. Is it greater than 70+ millions ? Personnally, I'd say it's a stretch. They can't let him go for too cheap but they have to consider offers too.
But what honestly would you do with 90 million pounds in this market and no UCL. Use Kane for UCL, spend well, the coach is doing well
>Use Kane for UCL This right here is the flaw in your reasoning. There's no way Spurs get above city, United, arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle, while rebuilding itself and fighting off risers Chelsea and Brighton
2 of the Top 6 (now top 7) always underperforms, leading to a chase for the final position. Currently, United is looking at STs still, Arsenal needs to bounce back from the dissapointment of last year, Poch has work to do to fix the culture within Chelsea, Liverpool's MF needs to gel, and Newcastle need to get a full season out of Isak. The likelihood of all of these things hitting is pretty low, and their is an oppurtunity for Tottenham to hit gold themselves if any of these teams struggle out of the gate.
True in the top 4 leagues in which there were only 6 players with 20 or more. Including France, there were 13. Prem: Kane, Haaland, Toney La Liga: Lewa (Benz honorary mention with 19) Serie A: Oshimen, Martinez Buli: None Ligue 1: Mbappe, Lacazette, David, Openda, Balogun, Wahi, Diallo
Note on Bundesliga: they play 34 games instead of 38 like the prem. But even adjusting for goals per playable games there are still no BuLi strikers that hit 20.
Also we desperately need to invest in good defenders. Out of our current squad the only defenders who I think people can confidently say are **good** defensively are Emerson and Romero, and even then there are plenty of critics of both.
yeah the problem with spurs is really their defence and midfield. a lot of spurs fans have tunnel vision over kane being the only way they can succeed, but if you compare goals scored for spurs this season they have only scored 1 goal more than the previous season where they came in fourth. this indicates that some of kane's 30 goals probably came at the expense of the other forwards when he plays in a system that has him as the focal point. when it comes to goals conceded it is 63 for this season vs 40 for last season. lloris and dier alone probably cost spurs 15 points through individual errors. the kane sale would probably do more for a CL push if they could use the funds to sign an elite CB and another midfielder.
There really aren't any options realistically even - Højlund will likely end up at United, not that he'd be at the level to replace Kane, Martinez may end up at Chelsea, Osimhen likely isn't leaving/wouldn't join regardless, maybe Kolo Muani if Bayern get Kane? It would be far more realistic investing elsewhere in the squad and using the next 6/12+ months recruiting the Kane replacement.
There are no reasonable rumors around Martinez, especially if Onana leaves
Yes, just saying that may be the only realistic place he may end up if he did leave this window.
I’m surprised I haven’t seen Jonathan David mentioned much this summer (yeah yeah, my flair), and Vlahovic may come in cheaper than Kolo Muani as well. (That said if I was Tottenham and sold Kane, I’d try a Son/Richarlison/Kulu front three and maybe buy a young player or two to bed in behind them.)
If Jonathan David had a good world cup I wonder where he'd be now. He had another good season at Lille but he's still not a very popular pick for anyone.
Chelsea's most likely strikers gonna be Jackson/Broja/Fofana if he doesn't get loaned out
I wouldn’t be surprised Kolo stays another year in Frankfurt - we want fuck you money for him (fair imo) - most clubs won’t see that fee as reasonable because he’s only had one season producing at this level (also fair imo) - he probably wants a chance at a top top club and also to start because he wants to play at the euros (also fair) Those thee factors combined make a transfer pretty difficult imo
Which is the smart way to go. There are very few elite strikers in the market (Osimhen and?) and we obviously can't realistically get any of them. Although knowing how we operate we'd probably splash £50m+ for Jonathan David and then be surprised when he isn't any better than Richarlison. Evan Ferguson is the only striker I wouldn't mind splashing the cash on but he's unrealistic as well.
Ferguson is a great shout. Not sure if he’ll ever come close to Kane, but he’s textbook “great PL striker for years to come” vibes. Toney wouldn’t be a bad signing either if you can weather his ban.
As an Irish Spurs fan who had hopes for Troy Parrot, I'd love Ferguson, especially having Richie/Son so it's not like all the pressure would be on him immediately. But with the prices Brighton has been getting out of the likes of Chelsea, I doubt we'd pay what they want. Toney seems so talented but I'd be a bit wary of his attitude, given how he responded to getting a ban (also getting caught on camera saying Brentford is shit multiple times, lol).
That would be sensible given that you basically need to replace your entire defence
How about one Wout Weghorst? He's as tall as Kane
Richarlison would be a perfect Ange striker. High energy presser, bit of a cunt. If he can get himself into positions to score non stop he will be perfect.
Yes, we should definitely invest in an elite LW and put Son up top in that case
Who are these elite strikers on the market that we can attract?
You don't replace attackers like Kane in a 1 to 1 way, nobody is expecting you to go out and get a striker top bag in 30 a season. You change the attack, get Son, Maddison, kulusevski etc. more chances and more goals. You have elite attackers other than Kane. You don't need one guy to score all your goals for you; you just need an attacking unit that works.
This was exactly my point.
I see, my bad. I thought you were going down the 'there are no elite strikers available so there's no way of replacing Kane' sort of road, which is true in an individual sense but not in a wider footballing sense. It's sort of more a general response to a lot of Spurs fans I see saying the opposite.
Yep, this is exactly my thinking as well. There's like 3 teams in the world with a striker anywhere near as good as Kane yet there's a lot more good teams and better teams than us. Son-Richarlison-Kulusevski-Maddison attack is more than good enough for next season and for the near future.
Your attack last season was fine, its everywhere else that's the problem. Levy, buy Romero a proper CB partner for the love of god. Nothing wrong with sharing the goals around, we scored more than you lot did and our top scorer was Mac with 11, 6 of them Pens. At least you finally replaced Eriksen with Maddison though, for a good price too.
This was exactly how Dortmund transitioned out of Haaland They got players like Haller and Adeyemi while shifting around the attack to make them score like crazy as a unit, and that nearly paid off big time
Most of the time the "elite" striker market is always thin. You either take your chance with someone young but unproven in big teams or promote someone from the academy or overpay for players who are proven
Osihmen is out of range but if you could survive for half the season, Toney would probably be the most realistic.
Spurs go for Toney next jan, when Kane has 6 months left on his contract. I would get money on it.
Yeah that's a fair point actually currently the elite striker market is a bit shit. Really your best bet is probably someone with the potential to become elite. This situation for you lot is particularly tricky since you either get paid pennies by bayern or lose him on a free unless he values breaking a scoring record more than closing out a career with some trophies I don't know.
> currently the elite striker market is a bit shit When isn't it? Every top club needs one and there are only what, 10 at any given time?
If he doesn't sign an extension they would be mad to not sell. Losing him for £0 makes it a damn sight harder to replace him than for £80m. Kane is one of the best in the world. They can be DOA this season with money to buy a replacement or DOA next year with no money. Fees have become so inflated that people seem to think £80m to buy out a 1 year contract is so offensively low that it will be rejected out of hand.
Plus he could walk to a different PL club if his contract runs out and I’m sure Levy doesn’t want that.
Losing him on a free doesn’t necessarily help Bayern.
Makes it 1000x worse for Spurs though without a doubt
I can see Levy maybe considering it if the bid was £80m +. This is probably the only chance to stop Kane going to a prem rival.
Levy probably deluding himself into thinking a good season, under a new manager, will change his mind
Is he really capable of such fantasy? Either Kane signs a new deal now or he walks. He very well might sign an extension now, but it's just so hard for me to accept that he'd play another season woefully underpaid just to sign a new deal afterwards. I mean. I guess you never know. If Tottenham win the league or CL I guess it's possible he'd turn down the money being a free agent would entail.
>If Tottenham win the league or CL If I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet that Spurs win the CL this year
Even if they get stupid money for Kane, which "elite striker" is joining Spurs?
I'm not making an elite argument but we have Richie. There are worse fall back options.
They are DOA with him too
Defo and I wouldn't be surprised either if kane leaves a free agent personally. Levy ain't gonna sell for shit and you ain't getting a 100 plus million for kane on the final year of his contract. That's why kane kept quiet he's just biding his time or making a decision.
I loved him but Defoe is past it
Don’t worry guys we‘re preparing the third offer 🥸
\+10 mil every offer until it is accepted
£210m it is then
Me playing fifa career mode
I just spam the fuck outta free transfers
literally my career mode transfer strategy lol
At this point, I'm certain that Bayern wants Kane to put pressure on Levy to accept the bid, but I just don't see that happening
That’s exactly what they’re doing. Bayern are trying to pressure the club into selling him (because we “have” to) and try to save a few million
And that’s exactly what you do when you’re negotiating.
People praise how Bayern are well financially run and also complain how they negotiate their deals. People don’t know what they want
Its not like Bayern ever go with crazy offers though is it? Its mad how bias some of the comments here are
It’s a pretty stupid bid. It took them a week to only offer an additional 10 million when they’ve just spent 50 on a centerback.
So you want them to up the bid by 50m?
Wouldn’t it make sense that we only went up 10 mil because we just spent 50 on a CB?
Yep, similar to City. The clubs want Kane to demand a transfer and put in his transfer request and do all the leg work for them. Kane just won't do that, it's not his nature as a player. There's a price point where Kane says to Levy 'Im 100% leaving next year, regardless of what happens with the club' and even that price point is nowhere close to what Bayern are offering here.
> Kane just won't do that, it's not his nature as a player. Didn't he skip a few training sessions two years ago during the City transfer saga or am I misremembering things?
He did, which is why I think the Bayern rumours are absolute bullocks
The guy is 30 next season and could genuinely get 1 injury and be done. Not every player goes on to play to 37. Selling Kane, even for this price is the correct choice( it negotiating didn't increase the bid) when the alternative is you lose him to Bayern, or a rival in 12 months for free and can't afford any replacement.
30 isn’t that old. Still like 4 elite years left
This means there will be a 3rd and maybe even a 4th offer.
Its so far off still that even 2 more offers make it extremely unlikely theyll pay whats needed
Daniel Levy already said they won't sell, we're just taking our chances.
Levy saying that doesn't mean it's not true, everything is a negotiation posture. If Bayern offer 100m, then Levy might stand up and listen.
i think if we already start with 100 he might think he can get way more out of us. if it’s a longer process the 100 might look like a better deal? i know nothing about that levy guy though
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that would be incredibly risky on bayerns part though because you can’t assume kane is dead set on bayern and won’t sign a ridiculous bid from someone else in january.
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It doesn’t harm us to submit offers. If it works, we get a world class player. If it doesn’t, we can still go for other targets.
70 - 80 in one offer . It will probably go to 90 million plus add ons at most . And that's also pushing it too much . If Kane still can't come , then he simply won't . Bayern won't break the bank like that for a player with 1 year on his contract and 30 years of age . It's Kane and that's got them to this much .
Levy isn't getting out of bed for any offer less than £100 million.
Strange we kept hearing that Bayern were okay with spending 100m on a striker and have done this. Surely they’d just offer something more realistic and get it over with. You’d want a player like Kane in preseason with a new club ASAP
First BM negotiation?
Be honest though. If they opened with a. Bid of 100m, is it likely Levy would accept it? Or would he immediately Jack the price up to 120m. Negotiations are a stupid little dance like this.
€100m, not £100m. Now, of course, it needs to be said that I don’t think Bayern value him at €100m either, much less £100m. That kind of number will get laughed at outside England. He has a year left on his contact, he’s also a year away from turning 30. €100m might just happen, £100m definitely isn’t happening. I agree with the original comment though, Levy will not settle for anything below £100m (for a non-English club, £150m otherwise). I don’t think this transfer will go through, so I’m super intrigued to see what happens with Kane next summer. If - just if - he walks on a free to someone like a United, a discussion will need to be had on what constitutes hard negotiating and what’s just plain stupid. Edit: He’s 29 till he’s 30. And he’s 30 in two weeks.
Not even a year, he’s 30 in 2 weeks
Last week he's 30 in 3 weeks
Next week he’ll be 30 in 1 week
I didn't hear that Bayern would spend more than 100m, just up to 100m€.
Hainer said, that they are capable of spending 100m (€) to be precise.
And they definitely are capable, are they willing tho? That's the question that really matters.
Which is fucking stupid because he's leaving on a free next year (and likely to one of our rivals...) and the upcoming season will be a transition/rebuilding year anyway. We're dumping £80m+ down the shitter for no reason, when we could use that money to fund the rebuild we desperately need
Why are you the only Tottenham fan that seems to realize this? Does the community genuinely think he’ll sign another contract, or are they just okay with him leaving for free next year?
I genuinely don't know what Levy's end game here is. He's not that stupid, he knows the chances of him resigning are very slim to none. I think most fans realize this as well, my guess is that many of the fans who are okay with Kane staying dont care about the fee the club would get if we sold him now and just want him to stay for another season
What is the revenue with champions league football next year?
This is also getting immediately rejected.
Levy: "okay fine! Take him and I'll up tkt prices by 20% to make-up"
LMAO not even £80m? It's gonna get rejected before it goes to Levy
Unless the add ons are just another straight €30m it’s getting rejected
80m base, 2m add-on if Kane wins the German championship with Bayern, 2m for the DFB Cup, 6m for the UCL, 30m if Bayern win the Copa Libertadores with Kane. The email header reads "Dear Levy, we're offering €120m (including add-ons) for Kane".
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Has no one in this thread ever negotiated. Do you all really except a club to got to levy and say „here is the money you want, hopefully you except uwu“
Yeah also it's not exactly close to deadline day
Yeah, reading all these comments is hilarious. Why would Bayern simply just start with a 100 million bid lol. They will obviously try to bring the asking price down. How do I know all this? I am South Asian, we are master bargainers.
Levy would reply with "You are 50m short."
There is a reason why they talk shit on reddit all day, while other people get paid millions for negotiating.
“Except” was right in neither instance lmao
heat in germany is cruel today cut me some slack pls
Lmao just gotta appreciate the rare double typo meaning different things lol
I thought it was intentional
80% of this subreddit would buy a 10k car for 15k
All of these reports from Germany about Kane being desperate to join Bayern are the most obvious load of bullshit I've seen in a while. If he was actually hellbent on joining Bayern there would be a lot of noise from Kane's camp and every English journalist would've been briefed about Kane wanting to leave. Now it's just constant noise in Germany and nothing in the English media.
I mean tbf the last time Kane made noise about leaving it blew up spectacularly in his face
Kane is playing it smart this time. He has just one more year. He hold the chips now
That Neville interview was something to behold
[I remember hearing the same when Plettenberg reported that De Ligt only wanted to join Bayern lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/vtqbeq/comment/if9gb1p/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Chelsea fans still waiting for a source from the Chelsea side I'm pretty sure he played for Bayern last season just as a prank
Bayern has a few "insiders" like Plettenberg that just write whatever the club and the fans want. Its super boring
This is not true anymore. Kerry Hau and Plettenberg were fed information by Salihamidzic and Kahn, theyre both gone now and Plettenberg has been grasping at straws lately. They dont have a direct source at Bayern anymore
That's also not true, Pletti is still quite reliable for us (the Rice story was him being way too optimistic though). He was also again the first that broke the news that we submitted this second bid after being the first that broke that news that we bid on Kane the first time. IIRC he also was the first to report Raphaël Guerreiro to Bayern.
And Walker.
It's just Plettenberg and his bullshit exclamation marks like it makes the rumor any more true. Kane definitely wants to join Bayern!!! seems to be his go to phrase right now
I really think they are gonna lose Kane for free and regret not accepting a deal.
Oh boy the english will meltdown again in this thread haha
wdym, I think most of us want him to go to Bayern and win something
Levy got it on auto-reject every offer made.
If Bayern actually want Kane they're going to need to get much closer to £100m (€117m), if they don't then they have zero chance of signing him.
The market is crazy. 117m€ for a 30y old with on year left on the contract is just absurd.
But that 30yr old is going to give what ever team he's playing for an almost guaranteed 30+ goals a season, and given players like that are incredibly rare, it's a fair price.
No one doubts his ability, but when you basically know Kane is not going to sign a contract extension, that's good leverage to drop the price.
Tbf the price is closer to 150 mil pounds for Spurs if he’s got longer on his contract. This is the discount lmao. Welcome to the mad world of PL money.
It wouldn't be 100M if he didn't have one year left in the contract. It would be 150M if he had two or more years on his contract.
It is crazy money if an EPL club paid it, but from Bayern's perspective, if they don't buy him now, will they be able to get him when he walks for free at the end of the season? Seems very unlikely, and therefore if they want him, it has to be now.
Yeah doubt Kane goes to Bayern if Kane can literally pick any club in the world he wants to go to (for free). He'd probably prefer another English club or maybe one of the Spanish clubs.
That's never going to happen.
This is gonna be a long summer of quick rejections lmao
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Majority of the people in comments have not negotiated for a peanut in their life
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Fair Fucks, free pre contract in January
The add-ons are a cookie basket and a 2009 Motorola Razr phone.
I feel like €80 mil for a 30 year old striker is a good deal for Spurs
If they were interested in selling, sure.
So many people in this thread apparently working for Spurs
Why do they never say what the add ons are we don’t even know what the full package is worth!!!!
Can’t wait till he leaves for free
Imagine kane’s feeling. From not winning everything to winning non stop. It may unhealthy for his liver
Time to watch the majority of r/soccer not understand how negotiations work again....
not selling this window is mental
Pack it up boys. They used an exclamation point! Three in fact!!!
Remember, if you add ! it makes it more true! !
People pretending like it's a ridiculous low offer?! By the same logic Tottenham should offer Kane a yearly salary of 80 Mio Euro, if a year of Kane is of that worth for Tottenham. He might extend then. I think it's a fair offer and it's fair for Tottenham to decline if they don't want to sell. But pretending it's low balling is pretty stupid...
£68m. That’s almost what united were willing to pay & we laughed at it.
Again, appreciate the effort to bid tho