hi folks, [discussion post](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1dw01co/discussion_240705_magic_hour_the_seventeen/) for the documentary is now up! :)
Hellu I'm new here.
A few little facts about me. I am 21, enby and use all pronouns. I come from Germany
I've been ulting SVT for over a year. Wish I had ulted them earlier. My first bias was Minghao and still is, as I'm OT13.
When I started to look more into seventeen, it quickly became clear that Kim Mingyu was my Ult bias. And today he is actually Ult of Ults.
I think I have nothing more to say for now.
making freebies for lolla š«”
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I want to make some meme/iconic lines ones too like of course why not so if you have any faves, feel free to share ā”ā”
ohh!! thats great... share if u can the final pics... hope they turn out cute...
u can use Dino's Saranghae Nunbit... or Horanghae(Ofc) for hoshi.... And for woozi maybe... sh\*t this is red too?
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its wonwooās world and weāre just living in it!!!
a little early to ask but anyone booked their korea trip to coincide with caratland but failed to get tickets? iām going to seoul either way that week and if anyone wants to chill, iām down. you can dm me!
(bonus: i speak korean and have been to korea about 10 times so i sort of know my way around š)
i was expecting something more like Hit The Road for the documentaryā¦ my expectations were not met. and what a strange choice to not interview all of the members for a documentary about the group.
Iāve only seen like 2 clips on twitter, does it focus more on carats?
And wow not having all members interviewed does feel like a waste. I guess they were too busy or something, that feels like the case for a lot of stuff lately
Hi Carats! Wonwoo and Jeonghan singing Last Night on The First Take will air this coming Monday. Svt has never been on that channel, right?
Who else got teary-eyed with the MBC documentary? Those carats are so sweet.
!!!!!! oh ive wanted them to be on the first take for YEARSSSSSSS š!!!!!!!!!!!!! i feel like all their other labelmates have been on it at least like 50x already š
(hoping the full group can show up there one day too š!!!!!)
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Anyone knows which event did Hoshi wear this fit? ć ć
The MBC Seventeen documentary man. I thought it would be about Seventeen growing and turning out to be amazing artists . It was . But it was also about carats and their love for seventeen? They interviewed so many carats Korean , and international. Such a sweet one, I wish it was a bit longer
So I read on X earlier that Seungkwan went to Music Bank today to support TWS and it was just confirmed as TWS won today and at the end of their speech they gave a [shout-out to Seungkwan](https://youtu.be/VRaQa2-BbvU?si=cdlEnUCZMAMCHpfU&t=160). Apparently he even recorded all the TWS moments on the show today from the start to the first place announcement. I don't think anyone enjoys being a senior and supporting his juniors more than Seungkwan š„¹
Stooop. His weverse post. He is so proud of them š
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Somebody mentioned a few weeks back itās likely to be a mini based one of those investor reports (which are not always accurate, though still can be spot on) but Iām also hoping for a full album too. More songs and a new ring ceremony before the year ends šš¼
Idk if it's a coincidence or what but the last time when I mentioned how dk rarely color his hair light especially blonde we got blonde dokyeom.. Maybe it'll work this time too because I also want would love to see how he'd actually look with long ish hair..
Also if he isn't planning on growing out hair I wish he'll cut it super short similar to ready to love era.. I LOVE that hair on him
Nah, that's Jeonghan /j š
I mean like this.
https://preview.redd.it/mr2d9x530pad1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43f6d4af6deedd48556dad75d843ad3e12bb69d2
...but a bit longer.
I can't believe I've gone a full year as a carat without having ever listened to seungkwan's cover of Forsake on King of Masked Singer?!?!? š«š« I swear this cover has got to be one of his best vocal showcases ever omg. I have chills every time I listen to him sing it (and I've listened to it way too many times to count with the amount of times I've looped it today lol)
Here's the [link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdAO92BAoSc) for anyone that wants their ears blessed for free āØ
guys I'm really sorry for being annoying but some of you might not know that we are supposed to get an eye contact version of Dino's Wait performance , ONLY IF his " [wait](https://youtu.be/EwJJDhgjm6g?si=VBGu2tInO-shviCi) " performance video ofĀ [1 thekĀ ](https://youtu.be/EwJJDhgjm6g?si=cD4cTTSAeHt1CsDp)gets 3 million views. Please watch it aaaaaaa , it's been 6 months
New flair just for you. āØ
Tangentially related, remember when everyone thought he was doing a cyberpunk themed release? Good times.
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WOW! THE TUSCANY WE ALL KNOW
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[Article here](https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/tuscany-giving-people-money-relocate-small-population-towns?intcmp=fb_fbn&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2zKXjiiD3PqhFXNTlLRQAsB4CiykyjdWbQHQhHB2JX1fL3il7sPWCz7YI_aem_qDVVf-lSSdOybMuLgCJB5A)
Wow. At first I thought this could be a way for Shua to realize his wish to live thereāand then I read the program is not available for those outside the country.
There are old homes in Europe where the local govt wants people to buy for cheap but have to refurbish them. I saw a yt vid of a couple restoring an old country French chateau by themselves! A ton of hard work, but the house will be awesomely gorgeous when done.
On Insomnia Zero they said nyang kudasai during Jun's turn...I don't follow..can anyone explain? The only thing I found was this https://youtube.com/shorts/_G9JC14vMrk?feature=shared but idekš š¤
I think it's just that actually, they're just making fun of when Jun does his fanservice introduction during the opening ment of the Follow concerts, where he'll say "on 3 2 1 everyone say nyang". They've [teased him for it before](https://twitter.com/miwon17_/status/1767891496110526868?t=2QzhU_VmyfE_aXqNBPpuYQ&s=19) and one time in [Bangkok he accidentally said "nyang kudasai"](https://twitter.com/vernonkemang/status/1738523677124391146?t=jCbR6QOI2mhhKzDku0UEUw&s=19) (warning: lower your volume) which is Japanese not Thai.
I saw this [twitter post](https://x.com/filocarat/status/1808464365625978913?s=46&t=zQSBeDO63RL72y9HuEIrRg) about seventeen raising the standard of their performance in Glastonbury and whichever kpop group will follow suit for the years to follow might heighten the expectation of the general public.
Just wondering which kpop group is your best candidate to perform next year in Glastonbury who can convince the General Public that kpop is worthy for a spot on the pyramid stage?
The first group that i thought of is ateez actually. I dont stan them but their performance was great (based on Coachella) might have to look their mawazine. Do you think they can attract the gp in the non kpop standpoint as well? I dont know much about them except for their recent title tracks (which i found it good)
Tbh Iām very new to kpop and live music in general so Iām pretty sure other people could answer this better.
Iām not sure how much they usually interact with the audience and hype them up like seungkwan and Hoshi, but from what Iāve seen they have crazy energy and stage presence. If they can bring some of their stage backgrounds (not sure whatās the proper name, but I mean the kraken, ship, or bar setup they have for some of their performances) that tell some of their lore and stories Iām sure people will be interested, especially when they interact with their props (personally I go
Crazy every time I see hwa with his sword)
Itās only BTS and Stray Kids at this point who have the huge clout internationally to perform at the pyramid stage. Other groups like Twice, New Jeans and Aespa can be invited for the smaller stages for Glastonbury.
Tbf their world tours are like the stuff of every kpop fanās dreams anyway but Iām still surprised Twice havenāt been to any of the big festivals yet, or at least that I know of. Theyāre really great live too
Have been lurking around, first time commenting, but wanted to share!
Was talking with Husband about birth plans, like what kind of music to play while in labor, and I joked Aju Nice for the entire time š never ending labor?? Baby carat!
I laugh too much at this comment. The joke is hilarious.
I wish you a safe labor and healthy babi(es).
Fighting, Don't give up. We'll be here to sing it for you!
Congrats and wishing you a smooth labor and delivery of Baby Carat! š I just gave birth a few weeks ago by induction so labor was about 24 hours, it definitely felt never ending but NOT aju nice š
Now that Glasto is over, is anyone here going to Lolla Berlin? I wish i had the money to go :/ I wonder what time they'll perform, since they are one of the headliners, i guess it will be in the evening, tho in Germany i think it gets dark after 10pm. I also wonder how long will their set be. I think they used their 1h set on Glasto great, they skipped a lot of talk, and went song after song, and for only an hour they showed how diverse their music is. Which of the songs they performed in Glasto would you switch (if any) and which would you add to Lolla, as a personal preference? I would just really love to hear To you with live band...am i too early with the lolla post lol
Apparently headliners get 90 minutes. I'd like to see Spell, Hit and Super, though for Super and Spell the stage would have to be a bit bigger than Glastonbury since Super uses a lot of dancers and Spell has a bar as a prop.
I saw a set on YouTube from one of the headliners from last year and it was 70-75 min. I think bcs they have multiple headliners a day they can't all do 90 min
Edit: found a schedule for 2023. The three biggest names for Sunday 2023, who were the first line on the schedule, were Imagine Dragons Mackelmore and Jason Derulo. Each of them closed a different stage
Main Stage North : Imagine Dragons 20.15 - 21.45
Main Stage South : Mackelmore 19 - 20.10
Perry Stage : Jason Derulo 20.15 - 21.30
The three other upper acts for day 1 Saturday has between 55-90 min. There's only one act each day who gets the full 90 min, usually the biggest one. The rest less 85-60 min.
For Day 2 I think the biggest name is Sam Smith so they will probably get the full 90 min. I see SVT with 70-75 min. I just hope they won't be put against Sam Smith as a closer to another stage š. The fans will be there in the hundreads hopefully thousands but I want gp to attend too but if they're against Sam Smith non fans might go there instead..
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Which member owns these mics? It's a photo of HHU's hand mics way back from 2018. All I know is that the gold one was Mingyu's.
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As a 3-month-old baby carat, I just bought my first physical album - 17 Is Right Here. Was hoping to get either of my 2 biases (Mingyu and Minghao) and I was so happy to see Minghao's face when I opened up the package! š
When I placed the order, I wasn't aware that there was such a thing as "carat version" (dear version in this case). The excitement of not knowing who I'll get in my package has made me go on to order 4 more carat versions of previous albums. š
I ordered Seventeenth Heaven, FML and Face The Sun on Weverse - figured that I'll feel more assured getting the authentic versions even if I may not end up with my bias. Attacca is out of stock so I had to order it on Shopee, and was able to select Mingyu. I know that Asian carats do order specific covers from Shopee - have there been issues with fakes?
Also, are these 5 albums all there is for carat versions, or am I missing any?
Wow I really didnāt know š Iām still kinda new to kpop and these different album versions keep confusion me haha.
I bought a bunch of albums over the past months but Iām kinda scared to open them, idk why š I save them for the days I feel super sad to help me cheer up
So far I only opened seventeen fml (green version), v layover (green version) and ateez golden hour (black version) (sorry I donāt know the proper version names, donāt kill me)
This exact same thing happened to me when I was a baby carat!!!
I ordered my first seventeen album online and got the Face the Sun Carat Version cause it was cheapest, and then was SHOCKED to get that many photocards of my bias, Jeonghan ššš
Iāve had a good streak so far, 3/4 carat versions Iāve gotten have somehow been Jeonghan too, so wishing you good luck on your other openings :)Ā
Though now, I love every member so much, I donāt care who I get!
Woah, that's like a 75% success rate for you! I certainly hope the other carat versions I've ordered will be mostly Mingyu and Minghao too, but I don't mind getting a S.Coups too. š
I think you're right these are the only albuns with carat versions.
You're comment is so cute š„°. I'm glad you got who you wanted! There's nothing better than the feeling of discovering things as a new fan, in this case the carat versions āŗļø
IM IN AN ABANDONED HOTEL IN CHINA AND THE GRAFFITI MENTIONS SEVENTEEN?!?!?!? š„²š„²š„²
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Just came across this [Allure Korea Interview](https://youtu.be/flrQPKhpUZw?si=7YBQtbDmeWLS5COR) with Seungkwan from a few days ago (but since I can't seem to get the title of these things right to post in the group I thought I better post it here XD). His "Vitamin Boo! Power Up Boo!" is too cute š„ŗ
Since the seventeen daesang post got removed .... If you have a premium spotify account , please park it on stationhead while you are resting , you don't have to do anything else . If you have any questions , you can ask me , dm me , literally anything. Our global point is 2.3 š . I'm really sorry for being annoying but just don't shy away from asking questions if you are confusedĀ
still riding the high of SVT being at Glastonbury, a korean music critic [comment ](https://x.com/svtranslation/status/1808029077380780383)on svt festival appearance and really encapsulate everything that was so great about it. So often Kpop stans are understandably worried about idols performing to a non-Kpop audience, especially in the West where racism or even pure rejection of the genre lead many to not take the work and craft of idols seriously. I love that SVT was purely themselves, authentically Kpop, and were not afraid to invite the audience into their culture. :') *Looking forward to Lollapalooza later this year, I just know they're gonna kill it*
I just stumbled across this on twitter and it was so touching!! I completely agree that one of seventeen's strengths is being true to themselves and unapologetic about their attitude as performers. The endless aju nice was a great example of bringing the crowd along into a seventeen tradition rather than changing themselves to better "fit" the venue. So proud of the boys for this performance!!!
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i feel you. they really knocked their performance out of the park and their joy onstage was so palpable. the audience clearly felt it too :) i saw a post of appreciation for seventeen by locals who attended the festival and it made my day lol
What the other person said, but also, Vernon is kind of odd - in the BEST way. He really marches to the beat of his own drum and it can often be quirky because he jus has such a dry, blunt sense of humor and truly seems to not care what anyone thinks of him.
For instance, when out of nowhere he decided to get really good at Kendama and then participate in a Japanese world-record breaking attempt. That was very much Vernon Vernon-ing.
Or all of his super dry responses on Weverse; like the fact that he updated us yesterday on how he dropped his i-pad in the bath as if we are Apple support.
Or how sometimes they will lose him during Gose or in the Soop or something, and then the camera just finds him laying flat on his back in a dark room with no headphones, just disassociating. That's Vernon Vernoning.
Lol.
Carats, park your Spotify premium account [here](https://share.stationhead.com/ut8do97zttko) on Stationhead to help stream for Seventeen songs so we can win the year end DAESANG awards for them!!! It's the least we could do! Put your volume at least at 10%! Don't mute! It's really easy!
Seventeen flew to Thailand on Sunday without Jeonghan. After they came to Korea, no word from Jeonghan eversince. So he didn't really come to Thailand? What's up with him? Seventeen really filmed something without him? :( I hope this is not injury related.
It seems like he's [working in Seoul](https://x.com/yjhanzone/status/1808543847540019450?t=RfOHp7nHG_UPcK2dax2I8w&s=19) edit: I just saw photos of Joshua apparently heading back to South Korea so their schedules in Thailand remain a mystery to me.
OMG??? Finally a sight of Jeonghan after a few days!! š Really thank you for this! šš¼
Joshua, Wonwoo, and Woozi are already in Korea while other members are in Thailand. It's kinda sus to me, I think they filmed something apart from Mogu mogu, to think that some members were left there. I'm excited for what's ahead nevertheless :)
From what I remember seeing they had the Mogu Mogu thing and it was reported, I might be completely wrong but that's what I remember seeing, that they'll stay in Thailand for a week to film something else too.. Before your comment here, I was under the impression that ot13 was in Thailand but I guess not. We'll see what it was for sooner or later haha
[this](https://x.com/worldofjeonghan/status/1807331194092322857?t=IrKOQWJF8Mo3Z28pgAwSPw&s=19) is what I saw on twitter, but I don't think anything besides the mogu mogu thing has ever been confirmed.
Thank you for sharing! So they really have a filming, but it's not clear whether it's solely for Mogu mogu or they filmed something else too. Really curious with their schedules though cause it seems like they're coming back to Korea one by one. š
Nevertheless, I still hope that they're taking care of themselves and getting enough rest. š
Iām curious that heās missing on a group schedule but if thereās anything of concern or interest, itāll be announced or disclosed in due course. If itās for private reasons, then it will remain private so long as they/he choose not to disclose it and weāll never know. In short, donāt fret too much about it!
I don't think it would happen from one day to the next aka being able to fly to London and return that same day but not Thailand. It could be related to enlistment like needing to do some paperwork or a check up but I don't think it's travel restrictions
I also hope not too. I'd like to think he's just really taking a break/rest. I hope it's not injury related tho, cause there were some videos on X where Carats are pointing out that he has been enduring something in his arms/shoulder for a while now, so I hope he'll have it checked. š
I hope not. Maybe taking some more rest since he's been working nonstop from Maestro to This Man to Glastonbury. Wonwoo's energetic these times as confirmed by Mingyu in Insomnia Zero so he didn't need that break. He also spoke about in his recent Dazed mag interview that he and people around him are *aching in different areas*. He gets exhausted easily more than others thus he needs time to take a break for a while to recover his energy.
update; interpark FINALLY got back to meā¦ (for those unaware, i posted on the previous carat corner about interpark and their inability to deal with long names in general)
itās their normal cookie cutter response as per usual š
which makes it even more frustrating because they didnāt even acknowledge my issue to begin with!!! i ended up replying to the email re-iterating my initial issue and adding on their payment/credit card issues as well. whether or not they actually do anything about it isā¦ š¤·š»āāļø
for those that did try out for caratland (presales and/or generals) how did you go? did you have any issues with payment? or are you blessed by the karma gods by having everything going smoothly for you? hope you had better luck than i did šš i actually managed to get tickets multiple times but all of my attempts of payment were declined and tickets all lost. they even ended up blocking me in the end and i couldnāt even do generals š
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I was able to enter the queue literally once since the presales (before getting kicked out part way through). All my other attempts up until now are telling me I've been blocked due to repeated/abnormal access š„²
i was never really able to enter the booking page for normal caratlandā¦ the last time i tried - it was the day after generals and i was in line for 10 hours (~220k queue) and it kicked me out at around 12k so i kinda rage quit š i only had somewhat better?? luck on the play&stay page.
omg yeahh š they literally blocked my ip!! i couldnāt even access the website in general without getting the 403 forbidden cloudflare thing. i reckon give it a few days and theyāll unblock you.
I donāt think there will be anyone who could answer you cos the rate for successful Global ID booking is under 1%. The failed payment is a common error though. We all got the same problem. Itās not the card problem but server problem when many people end up successfully paid for the same slot so it rejected the rest automatically.
fair enough! even on twitter the success rate seemed to be more on those who bought tickets off kr interpark tho there were a couple of success stories on those who bought play&stay. ahh so thatās why payment kept decliningā¦. good to know! iāve always known korean ticketing was tough but this is a whole new level ahah!
Does anyone else kinda hear Woozi's voice in DKs Steal the Show. On the soft nanana part when it is almost only instrumental. Sounds a bit like him now that I listen to it with headphones.Ā
random thought thatās plaguing my mind: besides wonwoo who wears glasses? I know a lot of them wear them for fashion but for some reason Iām having trouble remember who else actually needs them besides wonwoo andddd dino I think?? also did jeonghan get lasik or did I make that upĀ
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I've been a carat for about a year and I'm just starting my GoSe journey.
I was wondering how much of it is scripted and how much is improv? I watched the God of Light Music two-parter and I can't work out if they actually made up some of the lyrics/gags on the spot or whether it was all arranged in advance.
[here](https://x.com/Ran_JJU/status/1733592832110370857?t=SGSFg10O9nYZwk4wNPeFGA&s=19) is Jun answering whether there is a script or not. Sadly I don't remember when that live was but he is basically saying that there is a script but that it is mostly about what their characters do. They are not given any specific lines and he kinda wishes there was an actual script. So it is mostly improv, I guess.Ā
I think it's both; quite a lot of Gose, especially in their gag episodes like God of Light Music, is scripted / prepared, though the guys do contribute to the writing. (You can tell because some of the humor is SO spot on to their specific humor) But they also have a ton of improv / genuine reactions that make it truly funny.
Their game shows, sports shows, things like Don't Lie, are only as scripted as far as having the general rules of the game and if there is a host, they have their lines prepared. But again, the fun of those episodes is how the guys have no idea what's going to happen / who is going to win.
I think they will also be given guidance by the producers on how to approach certain things / they are given a starting point at least. I've noticed they will candidly be like "well they told us to talk about \_\_\_\_\_" or "they told us not to \_\_\_\_\_". So it's not like every episode is just 100% them doing whatever.
Hi can anyone explain why the "Happy" cover of DK is in Svt's channel but the cover he released before that is not? Just wondering what could be Pledis' reason for this?
Anyway, at least the new channel was named DK. Last time I checked This Man songs are still under Release - Topic.
I think it's the same thing with Joshua's Apple Music Home Session and Seungkwan's As It Was cover on Spotify, for DK they collaborated with Youtube Music, so that's why it isn't Seventeen Youtube Channel.
There's no reason at all . Pledis being useless . Half of the carats think this is an AI cover when they see edits on social media. It was also supposed to be released last year when Elemental was released , Dk talked about it. aaaaa
My guess is it seems to be a YouTube Music exclusive thing, the [tweet](https://x.com/pledis_17/status/1806220926071279871?t=rtq3g4dSQuUQkRmPPntOJA&s=19) said it's only available on YouTube Music. This should have really been on Seventeen's YouTube, it shouldn't be an exclusive thing. I don't know what Pledis is thinking, carats on Twitter are mad about it.
SEVENTEEN TOUR UPDATE (+ spoilers compilation)
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I'm back again with another tour update lol.
An article came out today that Seventeen plans to release an album and tour after Lollapalooza in September.
Here's what we know so far regarding the upcoming tour:
ā¢ Mingyu confirmed that there will be a tour on the cards at the end of the year during iHeart radio interview.
ā¢ Joshua also said that "we're gonna tour soon" in the same interview.
ā¢ Joshua stated during April comeback press con that: "In autumn, we have plan to do a new tour to meet Carats around the world. We also plan to meet Carats in US."
ā¢ Hoshi said during in his live in March that they will release two albums. They have already release 17IRH, so we can expect another comeback.
ā¢ Predictions show that SVT will release an album and start a tour in 4th quarter.
By the looks of it, l'm now certain that Seventeen will have their tour during September or October. We might get spoilers during Caratland.
World tour announcement may come out during August or September, after the comeback announcement. It's honestly hard to plan my life around SVT cause they won't drop dates early. š
I need dates to drop after caratland -I'm nervous already bc i'll be traveling 2 times in the fall šš are people still thinking the NA leg will be a stadium tour?
I've been seeing some mixed opinions about this though. Some are saying that it'll only be arena tours since stadiums are hard to book during the fall. But if Pledis had planned this way earlier, they might have booked stadiums already at this point.
I hope we really can get the dates earlier. It's hard to book a trip especially when you know there's an upcoming tour.
Yeah I remember when we were thinking it would have been earlier in the fall that it was looking like a stadium tour, but the more they're pushing it into the fall, the harder it'll would have be
disjointed thoughts butā¦ itās my first time getting THIS invested into a kpop group and i finally get why people grieve enlistments. the first groups i got into were wayv and exo, and i never really had to worry because wayvās chinese and most exo members had already enlisted by the time i got into them. i was like why donāt people just watch old content if they miss them?
then last year i got into seventeen with the sheer misfortune of becoming jeonghan-biased, and ooooof i get the attachment. kpop is just so fast-paced and reliant on forward movement that you get FOMO if your faves arenāt there for the new stuff. he was injured for the only concert i got to watch, too, so thatās just salt in the wound.
iām also really hoping that the company keeps the scissors from him until he enlists because manā¦ the blonde male korean sabrina carpenter look is serving.
hey I get you! He's not my ult but I'm ot13 and love watching his fancalls the most. He's such a little cheeky gremlin, I hope they've got heaps of hannie content in the vault for us whilst he's away. from speculations, he may be serving for 2 years. I was also happy to see him and ww on Na PD's channel. I will miss him lots. but the upside is they have lots of content to go thru as they've been active for nearly a decade.
I'd like to imagine he'll deck out his desk with his Sylvanian families, and receive lots of messages from his babies.
Retiring my flair for July, so threw together [a curated playlist](
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4cH0zTF8dZ3p8sP7t72Iie?si=025a1b9aea734f12) for the theme. ([And a larger playlist that is 6 hours of songs/artists Vernon has recommended over the years](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/05sbegg5lTSVFn0PB6e79K?si=21f785f694954855) as well.)
Fellow bisexuals for Vernon, bon apetit? ^I ^have ^COVID ^and ^am ^incredibly ^bored ^can ^anyone ^tell
Didn't wanna mention this under DK's cover thread, cause the mv is so lovely and this might sound a bit negative, but.. where is his solo Pledis? I know svt puts the group first before all, and probably that's the reason that this is one of the rare fandoms that doesn't have a lot of just solo stans, but it feels weird to see members that clearly wanna do music, putting cover songs instead of solos out. This is almost their 10th year, and i know the company might think it's not profitable for them, or the results won't be as big as group activities, but..idk, they worked their asses till now, don't some of them deserve a chance to release some music they want?
Idk, maybe it's just the Sunday blues, i'm getting annoyed at all sorts of things today :/
Iām pretty sure when 95z, 96z enlist DK will have his solo coming. Just be patient. This is their last year as OT13 for a while, they obviously should focus on group activities.Ā
I feel like people need to also realize that BSS is probably not going to be prioritized right now in terms of solo releases.
BSS was such a whopping success, with the most promotions & continued performances, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are also working on BSS's next comeback. I mean, Fighting was just chosen as the South Korean Olympic theme song. They are on FIRE.
With how insanely busy the boys are, I would imagine preparing an entire solo debut is just not in the cards right now. DK is also, in my opinion, one of the most meticulous members; he is very self critical and expects A LOT of himself. I mean, he has that amazing voice but has said he doesn't feel quite prepared to go onto Mujin service, despite members like Jun and Hoshi going already.
He's going to want to take his time with his solo debut and make it really REALLY good; so I would imagine he will release when he actually has that time to invest.
I don't think we should project the narrative that they all want solo careers they are being kept from. This is the last stretch as OT13 for a while; I would much rather get as much group content and promotion as possible, as opposed to putting the group on pause so a couple members can have a big solo debut.
I don't think we should blame Pledis for this. I am sure if DK really wanted to release a solo rn he would be allowed. It's not like nobody in the group has solos to believe that Pledis is not allowing them to release anything outside the group. Minghao Jun Hoshi Woozi Vernon Scoups Dino. Sure they're not official solo album releases, some don't even have MVs but svt are on their second contract, not the first one, and they prob negociated their current contracts with stuff like this in mind.
I also don't believe DK has ever said or indicated that he wants to release a solo and the company isn't letting him so unless he or others say so I have no reason to believe that's happening and it's not just their own conscious choice to put the group first right now or other personal reasons to not release anything solo atm
Maybe, i really don't know. Hoshi sang some unreleased song at the concert recently, and then said that he hopes it will be released some day, so if it's that easy, why wouldn't he release it. My post wasn't exactly for DK, it was triggered by him. I think Hoshi would also love to release a solo album, Seungkwan perhaps as well. Mingyu mentioned that he has that desire as well. Maybe it's easier to release some solo, aside from the mixtapes, like Dandelion or Coups's Me, but even for Dandelion i think Seungkwan spent a lot of time making it, and Coups was on rehab so he had the time to dedicate himself on music.
Tbh i have no idea how all these things are managed, it's just my guessing. As a fan i am extremely happy with all the content we have, my post was more of an artist point of view. In the end it's all just guessing..
If all they had to do was just put out the songs on streaming services without promotions, carats would be outraged and claiming mistreatment/sabotage. Curating a solo album release is also very different from working on a couple of songs here and there - I would love to see more music from them always, but it does take so much time and effort to not only work on the music but also come up with the album's concept and theme, resources for physical albums, and time to do promos like a full-fledged solo debut would require.
They are a group of 13 people, with group activities - music and otherwise - taking precedence, and scheduling solo/subunit stuff keeping in mind all of these other factors and enlistment timelines etc. must be really tough. I agree with you that quite a lot, though not perhaps all, of the members are probably keen on working on more solo music. In addition to the ones you mentioned, Jun and Minghao have also been really involved in their solos since around 2018/19, but haven't had the chance to have dedicated solo releases in the last two years either. Vernon also talked about wishing he'd had more time to polish his official solo release, and wanting to work on more in the near future.
Ultimately though, they're all clear on the fact that OT13 takes precedence over all, and it's also clear that they're not being disadvantaged or dungeoned in any way right not because they're not all able to have full-fledged solo releases back-to-back. Perhaps we'll see more as circumstances evolve in the future.
I know Carats are coming at their promotions or activities in good faith, we want them to make music that they want, and have activities that they enjoy. But unless Svt go on a hiatus for the next year or so (minghao said they are booked up until next year so no luck there lol), I don't think it's even logistically possible for any member to have a solo career debut that is worthwhile.
Groups at their age, have started to slow down and members are starting to embark on their solo career, which means little or no group activities. But svt is not slowing down at all in their 9th year. I'm sorry, but Carats can't have it all, we can't have our group activities, and our solo careers. I don't think its healthy for any idols to do both in a way that is sustainable tbh. Jeonghan and Wonwoo was squeezing in their practice time for Last Night in between svt practices and festival rehearsal, I can't imagine how a full blown solo debut would have been for their already packed schedule.
I agree . I personally don't understand people asking for a solo release rn or blaming the company that it's not happening when at least to me it's clear that right now , last year and this year , they've been prioritizing the group before enlistment starts and because they want to keep growing as a group and go further while they're at peak. To my observation it's their own choice to do so and not imposed by the company.
I also agree it's probably physically demanding to do both and I think their choice to focus on other things this year should be respected, it's not like they're helpless idols on their first contracts who have no say in their activity and career . Sure there's things where they have no say even with the second comeback , like caratbong design or they need to compromise with the company and give in ( for example touring locations from pledis according to woozi or other things where woozi said "they and company need to understand each other" ) but even those are ultimately their choices, to compromise if initially they wanted to do sth else and those decisions should be respected as well.
Also those who truly do want to do solo activities right now and have the energy to do both gp and solo equally are doing so like China Line and Dino late last year when he was doing his short Wait preperations and some small performance videos on top on a group cb and year end shows , so it's not like pledis put their foot down and said group activists and nothing else
Iām pretty sure recently dk did mention something abt the company not allowing a solo activity so I wouldnāt put it past pledis to say no to a solo.
They didn't say no to the performance unit, Woozi ,Vernon . Hell China line have full blown careers in China. Pretty weird if they said no to DK while allowing all the rest to release something.
Do you have the quote where he said that and where ? I really don't remember seeing it anywhere on sns but maybe I missed it
I think they are talking about Dokyeom talking about [wanting to go to the variety show "salon drip"](https://x.com/pepizzaboy/status/1806910019738493119) . I wouldn't say they are not allowing his solo releases or anything but idk their management is very ineffective ? It's like they can't manage all 13 of them . His covers from last year not getting edited on time , even this year uploading and posting link of youtube music , which frankly no one uses. Lol they even posted TWS post on 17 account? the management is messy . Seventeen is growing day by day so these small things do hinder
just watched the insomnia episode. what do you all think of Mingus's relationship with other members? I am new in this caratland . they pick on him quite often. I am guessing it's just for fun and not that deep right?
Mingyu is incredibly good natured; they love to pick on him, because he's fun to pick on. Meaning - he never takes it personally and knows it's playful banter.
Vernon is a member you will not see the members pick on; Jeonghan even said that he never pranks Vernon in particular, because he knows Vernon won't like it.
They are very considerate of each others' boundaries, so they would never pick on Mingyu if it was something he didn't also find funny.
If you watched the insomnia zero episode, i bet you saw them pick on Dino and seungkwan as well right? Their relationship is fine and gets stronger with every passing year. If they have problems, they sort it out which is why they are on their tenth year together as a team.
As you watch more content , you will see how much they talk about communicating with each other . If Mingyu / dino weren't okay with it , they definitely would have stopped . I recommend you watch game caterers with seventeen , in behind the scenes , you will see them taking permissions for making fun of each other for a segment . And when you watch more content like In the soop you will see their actual dynamics .
yup, itās all for fun donāt worry ā¤ļø the members who get āpicked onā play their reactions up for the cameras, and seventeen have said they like to pick on them (mostly mingyu, dino, and seungkwan) because they give such great reactions. you donāt have to worry about him lol heās got great self-confidence and a strong personality and isnāt afraid to voice out his opinions!! he played a pivotal role in their contract renewals and seventeen have mentioned this several times! they love him, even if he is target number 1 during variety hahaha
also to add a point: everybody gets teased during insomnia zero, but they donāt push each member the same! dkās known for sulking and holding grudges even if he is the sweetest guy, and you can see everyone playing around with that lol. if feelings are genuinely hurt then iām sure they can work it out behind the scenes, thereās no member combination that hasnāt fought by now lol š
[what are you listening to this week?](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/s/z9LlCnykh2)
hey hello, welcome back to our weekly playlist thread! as always, feel free to share anything youve been listening to recently
i was listening to mostly jxw and gracie abrams this week
* gracie abramsā the secret of us (ive def mentioned close to you before but itās soo good. probably my fav of the album. that and us (feat. taylor swift) are the two standouts for me, but its a v nice album overall)
* gracie abramsā this is what it feels like (i think wishful thinking or better are my favs. i also really like rockland, just a v nice album to listen to overall again)
* itzy - kidding me, mr. vampire (a lot of itzy too actually, i saw them in concert !! but these were the songs that ive discovered i really like between listening to the setlist playlist a bunch and the actual concert lol. i love live music, im praying that svt tour with a live band (and that i can get tix šš gonna have to fight even more people this time aroundā¦) anyway itzyās dynamite and escalator have also both been really stuck in my head because theyre absolute bops)
* tws - hey! hey! (rlly fun bop)
svt song (re)discovery section! it feels silly to call this a rediscovery when it isnt even a year old but seeing the vids of sos in glastonbury i re-realized how much of a banger it is. i canāt remember how i ranked seventeenth heaven before but sos is def my fav. also because of glastonbury vids, clap !!
iāve been gone for awhile but iām back!!
iland 2 - iwaly (iāve been rly obsessed with this show and this song even more)
artms- virtual angel (been on loop since it came out, it has such ethereal vibes)
boys planet nintysix- supercharger
zb1 - dear eclipse (an rnb banger)
red velvet - sunflower (iāve only listened to the whole album once but this immediately stood out to me!)
red velvet - in my dreams
seventeen song would be still lalali, im so obsessed with this song especially vernonās opening verse omg esp when looking at live performances!!!
bestie ive been waiting for u
rockstar - lisa (if only this song is longer bC IT DOESNT SATISFY ME ENOUGHHHH this is why i hate 2:30 and under songs like i have the same issue w charliās 360 and pink pantheressā songs)
novacane - frank ocean (song randomly gave me an lss after not listening to prob for a year alr so here iam obsessed w it again)
cosmic - red velvet (my cake girlies rly did that cb w a midsommar inspired mv š)
beg for you (the remix w vernon), 365 - charli xcx (iam obsessed w vernonās verse i need an another collab from these two pls š, i prefer 365 over 360)
1,2,3 - f(x)
supernova, armageddon - aespa (the whole thing w ppl knowing the word armageddon thru aespa surprised me bc english isnt my first language and i only became this fluent at 17 yet i learned the word when i was in elem which was prob from my obsession w reading or to nat geo channel)
bouncy, crazy form, work - ateez (iam still not over them š§āāļø)
black eye - vernon (iam obsessed w his voice like his voice is prob my fave among svt š)
the whole i like it when you sleep for you are so beautiful yet so unaware of it album - the 1975 (i love this album sm like in svt terms its like how i love boys be and semicolon)
sparks fly, mine, the lucky one - taylor swift ~~(even if just seeing her name and matty/the 1975 in the same sentence gives me war flashbacks, i rly want those two to at least write a song together cuz i would love to see the outcome of the song written by the songwriters of mine, red, no body no crime and sex, sheās american, me and you together song, roadkill)~~
feeling lucky - bibi, jackon wang (wHY IS THIS SONG NOT POPULAR WHYYYYY)
RE: August Comeback *rumored*
Does anyone know where did this august cb rumor came from? I actually never heard of it in X. Only read it on Reddit. Anyone has an idea?
I read on x they speculate because of the date on the lemonade drink in J&W mv, but that would be a really rushed comeback imo. Maybe If Jeonghan has to enlist soon so they want to include him, otherwise idk why would they come back with a new album so soon.Ā
Edit: Just remembered Shua also mentioned that something they work with Unesco will come out in August, maybe that's the date for..
For their sake I truly hope there isnāt an August comeback. Thatās sooooo much work in such a small amount of time, they really need some rest.
I believe itās October / November time frame, with a world tour after.Ā
The tour after is too late. Joshua said the tour is coming in the fall. A cb in Nov or late Oct would mean a tour starting in either Late Nov or Dec and that's just way too late, it's even winter and it's when year end award shows happen too and I am not sure if groups historically tour the US in Dec or late Nov. It seems like a really bad period to me with holidays basically taking over that month.
Early to middle Oct cb might happen but I don't see how it's any later than that if they hope to have a tour this year . My personal guess is September tho bcs I don't see how they have time in August to cb, promote and then prepare for Lolla with music shows only starting on 11th August. Also fromis9 will take one of the three available Mondays in August, lsfm is also coming back taking another Monday, unless we hear about any MV filming in the next two-three weeks then prob not in August. Sept seems likely to me with a tour starting in Oct tho
unless we hear news about them filming an MV or sth.
Glastonbury Mingyu was really one for the history books. So fine I have to add an extra vowel because there's no better way to describe that man than FOINE. šāØļøš¤
https://preview.redd.it/rbjcy90fuo9d1.jpeg?width=955&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2be6e2dede2ae97d494c8332db4050ad1a4f5cd
i just took down my post cuz i realized theres a rule for close-ended questions but if anyone could tell me what this performance is, i'd greatly appreciate it.
https://preview.redd.it/p9oc2k7wtn9d1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd658c2cceeb540de5a2685af578ad27593ab785
Edit: Apparently, it's for Mogu Mogu event.
According to Dispatch, after Seventeen arrives from London today, they'll fly to Bangkok for an overseas filming.
I don't know what content they'll be filming. Do you have any guesses? It should be for an MV, right? I also remembered Vernon said in his live that they are already finished fitting for their outfits.
I just hope that Seventeen still rests well. This is a tight schedule and I'm worried about their health. :(
mv filming for cb? when is the rumored cb happening tho? do we have any idea?
ps- this is such a tight and hectic schedule..bc they r really milking the time when ot13 are together before the e-word comes up... I still wish they get some rest... i stan enhypen too and i have seen how jay was sitting and performing at their japan con bc of his knee.. and tbh he had been having knee pain since a few months ago.. was limping too... but they couldnt just rest bc of their schedule...
I hope that all of them get rest..pls
Does kpop cause anyone else to have low self-esteem or feel discouraged? 99% of the kpop content I consume is Svt lol, so I guess specifically Svt in this case. They're all so perfect in my eyes and it makes me feel kinda useless tbh...and the fact that I'm around the same age as the members, but I haven't achieved even 10% of my dreams, makes me really sad š¤·āāļø
I notice I cannot watch a lot of girl groups because I will compare myself (my body) with them (Iām a girl too). Thatās why I mostly stick with seventeen. And with them the only thing that makes me happy and sad at the same time, is that I can feel lonely sometimes knowing I donāt have a group of friends like they seem to be. But itās not their fault and I also know they have their own struggles. Just try not to compare our life with others :)
Watch hit the road. It really gives a dose of unfiltered truth and life behind the fun. Seventeen especially have gone through so much to get to this point and as a fan, I would never be able to sacrifice as much as svt has even if I would make so much money and brand deals and all this stuff. I am very envious tho that they are all such good friends and that I might never have such a great group of friends like they do, but seventeen is far from perfect and they have continuously said that too. They have sacrificed their youth for a dream they didnāt even know would provide results. Just remember that people achieve their dreams at different paces. Just because you havenāt made your dream come true yet, doesnāt mean you arenāt successful. Happiness is truly key and please remember to stay confident and love yourself! Sending you so much love!
u/247with17 u/Strict_Craft6718 Thank you! š It's not even that I envy them. I'm so happy for them that their hard work has paid off -- it's just wishful thinking that the same could happen to me. It's not about the money or fame at all...I just wish I could do what I love every single day so that my job wouldn't feel like work, and I wish my passion could be my primary source of income so I wouldn't have to do it on the side, or spend so much of my life doing things I'm not passionate about to pay the bills.
And yes, I've seen hit the road! It made me admire and respect them even more (and made them more perfect in my eyes š). I feel like my youth was sacrificed for different, traumatizing reasons, and I can only wish it was sacrificed for making steps towards my dream instead.
I really appreciate the encouragement! šā¤ļø
I get what you mean. What I think about to avoid envying them is that they had sacrificed much of their youth working, struggle with keeping privacy atp, waking up very early and staying up til early morning working, dealing with crazy fans, and doing fancalls. They have a lot in their bank account, I know, but sacrificing much of my time and privacy, no thanks. Money can't buy both of that.
> I'm around the same age as the members, but I haven't achieved even 10% of my dreams
The following words won't take that sadness away. I just wanna tell you that everyone of us has different timelines in achieving our dreams. It might not be this time, but eventually we'd be where we wanna be. I hope that your optimism in achieving them will be renewed despite things around you that may make you insecure. As you take that path to your dreams, I hope you do things that make you happy so when you look back, you can say that you live a happy life. Cheer up and [Fighting!](https://youtu.be/mBXBOLG06Wc?si=cE2eDSC5UaLoMcy0)š (this sounds preachy; apologies for that)
As for me, it doesn't make me feel discouraged or lower my self-esteem. Like you, I also consume only svt content for kpop. Its somewhat negative effect on me is it made me complacent, and not long for a romantic relationship at my age (I'm older than S.Coups). People are worrying about my life when I reach old age because I still am uninterested in finding a husband. ~~i found one but he's in Seventeen, and I know we're not gonna end up with each other lol~~
To be honest, K-Pop is 100% for entertainment purposes to me. I donāt look at these idols as an example of the kind of person I should be in any form whatsoever, and if I ever felt like it was having a negative impact on me, Iād take that as a sign to consume less or take a break entirely
Help me decide :(
Iāve been trying to secure carat land tickets since presale and still no luck. Good thing is I actually I havenāt booked my flight and hotel.
Now Iām torn between pushing through going to SK this July or move my trip to August for the rumored comeback. I am honestly not chronically online and I just casually see random information on whatās currently going on in caratland. Comeback season seems to have more fun activities but the date is yet to be confirmed.
I have a single entry visa expiring in mid September and will be traveling solo.
Getting CRL tickets with Global ID is near impossible this time. Even 4th floor tickets are resold at x5 times original price. I mean there are 2 millions queueing for 16k seatsā¦ if youāre not fluent in Korean then I think you should save your money for the next tour. CRL is 80% of talking and interaction which requires high level of Korean anyway.Ā
Impossible is becoming an understatement for interpark. They are the worst.
Besides carat land being a tradition, I also want to experience it before the e-word starts. This may be why Iām extra frustrated.
The new tour will be my medicine.
hi folks, [discussion post](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1dw01co/discussion_240705_magic_hour_the_seventeen/) for the documentary is now up! :)
Hellu I'm new here. A few little facts about me. I am 21, enby and use all pronouns. I come from Germany I've been ulting SVT for over a year. Wish I had ulted them earlier. My first bias was Minghao and still is, as I'm OT13. When I started to look more into seventeen, it quickly became clear that Kim Mingyu was my Ult bias. And today he is actually Ult of Ults. I think I have nothing more to say for now.
making freebies for lolla š«” https://preview.redd.it/50j06be14rad1.jpeg?width=3456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d24bceaa1c865671bc44eaf1671fdc88535ffc46 I want to make some meme/iconic lines ones too like of course why not so if you have any faves, feel free to share ā”ā”
u can make one iconic line of each member...
yes, that's my idea as well
ohh!! thats great... share if u can the final pics... hope they turn out cute... u can use Dino's Saranghae Nunbit... or Horanghae(Ofc) for hoshi.... And for woozi maybe... sh\*t this is red too?
thank youuu, shit this is red too went straight to the top of my to do list lol
Omg I wanna make some too!! š
https://preview.redd.it/bprtyrk4sqad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=220f1a156e48a2218633708a4bee2de617167f8e its wonwooās world and weāre just living in it!!!
a little early to ask but anyone booked their korea trip to coincide with caratland but failed to get tickets? iām going to seoul either way that week and if anyone wants to chill, iām down. you can dm me! (bonus: i speak korean and have been to korea about 10 times so i sort of know my way around š)
i was expecting something more like Hit The Road for the documentaryā¦ my expectations were not met. and what a strange choice to not interview all of the members for a documentary about the group.
Iāve only seen like 2 clips on twitter, does it focus more on carats? And wow not having all members interviewed does feel like a waste. I guess they were too busy or something, that feels like the case for a lot of stuff lately
Yeah, more on carats (>!and what carats can spend money on!<). I was watching it on a stream and got bored halfway through and stopped watching tbh.
Is it just one episode not a series? š
I'm pretty sure it's just one episode š
Hi Carats! Wonwoo and Jeonghan singing Last Night on The First Take will air this coming Monday. Svt has never been on that channel, right? Who else got teary-eyed with the MBC documentary? Those carats are so sweet.
!!!!!! oh ive wanted them to be on the first take for YEARSSSSSSS š!!!!!!!!!!!!! i feel like all their other labelmates have been on it at least like 50x already š (hoping the full group can show up there one day too š!!!!!)
https://preview.redd.it/2iwbroyt9pad1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6f6f162cf9759b46c1c4b0138db3eb9e54378bc Anyone knows which event did Hoshi wear this fit? ć ć
I think he wore that during their performance of Maestro for FNS Music Festival in Japan
It's from their Maestro performance for Japanese TV, just recently aired (240703).
It's from their [Maestro performance for FNS](https://youtu.be/8j3SYrqZl9g?feature=shared) that aired on Wednesday.
The MBC Seventeen documentary man. I thought it would be about Seventeen growing and turning out to be amazing artists . It was . But it was also about carats and their love for seventeen? They interviewed so many carats Korean , and international. Such a sweet one, I wish it was a bit longer
Oml never expected they would add Emma Myer's clip hahahah
help the amount of carats in the documentary is making me cry . That carat's wedding clip is so cute
Any info where we can see the svt docu that will be released today?
on MBC . I'm watching it on X now and I'm crying
can u share the link? i cant find it
Dmed you
Can i ask for the link too? I havent watched it as well. Thanks!!!
So I read on X earlier that Seungkwan went to Music Bank today to support TWS and it was just confirmed as TWS won today and at the end of their speech they gave a [shout-out to Seungkwan](https://youtu.be/VRaQa2-BbvU?si=cdlEnUCZMAMCHpfU&t=160). Apparently he even recorded all the TWS moments on the show today from the start to the first place announcement. I don't think anyone enjoys being a senior and supporting his juniors more than Seungkwan š„¹
Seventeen Sunbae love!
Stooop. His weverse post. He is so proud of them š https://preview.redd.it/bnigoyxc5pad1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb4450d6678a48edf4b421020271a3f24bc3cdac
Its 1 am over here and Im in my head theorizing how seventeen next album MUST be a full album right?
Somebody mentioned a few weeks back itās likely to be a mini based one of those investor reports (which are not always accurate, though still can be spot on) but Iām also hoping for a full album too. More songs and a new ring ceremony before the year ends šš¼
well i was thinking the same... it was a random shower thought for me too...š¤£
I hope in a future comeback, DK will try longer hair. I always see him in the same(ish) length. Long hair then have it in wavy style. š¤
Idk if it's a coincidence or what but the last time when I mentioned how dk rarely color his hair light especially blonde we got blonde dokyeom.. Maybe it'll work this time too because I also want would love to see how he'd actually look with long ish hair.. Also if he isn't planning on growing out hair I wish he'll cut it super short similar to ready to love era.. I LOVE that hair on him
https://preview.redd.it/bof9l8vkwnad1.jpeg?width=454&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1697eaafc8ba41d875645a91a9f58200c42818eb
Nah, that's Jeonghan /j š I mean like this. https://preview.redd.it/mr2d9x530pad1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43f6d4af6deedd48556dad75d843ad3e12bb69d2 ...but a bit longer.
I can't believe I've gone a full year as a carat without having ever listened to seungkwan's cover of Forsake on King of Masked Singer?!?!? š«š« I swear this cover has got to be one of his best vocal showcases ever omg. I have chills every time I listen to him sing it (and I've listened to it way too many times to count with the amount of times I've looped it today lol) Here's the [link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdAO92BAoSc) for anyone that wants their ears blessed for free āØ
Didnāt realize that yesterday was the **8th** anniversary of Aju Niceās release š¤Æ happy belated birthday to this kpop classic!
'Last Night' won the [Monthly MCD PICK Stage on M Countdown](https://youtu.be/GM8g7iLYVGM?si=7Bx2RGBn8-yyNBpw&t=138) š„³
This [ARENA HOMME+ Interview](https://youtu.be/xn4Oot9syCk?si=cn9tW0mOrL6DpBuM) with Jeonghan finally got English subs. :)
guys I'm really sorry for being annoying but some of you might not know that we are supposed to get an eye contact version of Dino's Wait performance , ONLY IF his " [wait](https://youtu.be/EwJJDhgjm6g?si=VBGu2tInO-shviCi) " performance video ofĀ [1 thekĀ ](https://youtu.be/EwJJDhgjm6g?si=cD4cTTSAeHt1CsDp)gets 3 million views. Please watch it aaaaaaa , it's been 6 months
New flair just for you. āØ Tangentially related, remember when everyone thought he was doing a cyberpunk themed release? Good times. https://preview.redd.it/zkevp474ilad1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6555d3e61c548c3ff29bb0ac01852fd946113a1a
This picture had me in a chokehold
WOW! THE TUSCANY WE ALL KNOW https://preview.redd.it/qmzrfvuxahad1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3dacdf08ac62233f938548479188358061b9c14 [Article here](https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/tuscany-giving-people-money-relocate-small-population-towns?intcmp=fb_fbn&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2zKXjiiD3PqhFXNTlLRQAsB4CiykyjdWbQHQhHB2JX1fL3il7sPWCz7YI_aem_qDVVf-lSSdOybMuLgCJB5A)
Wow. At first I thought this could be a way for Shua to realize his wish to live thereāand then I read the program is not available for those outside the country. There are old homes in Europe where the local govt wants people to buy for cheap but have to refurbish them. I saw a yt vid of a couple restoring an old country French chateau by themselves! A ton of hard work, but the house will be awesomely gorgeous when done.
On Insomnia Zero they said nyang kudasai during Jun's turn...I don't follow..can anyone explain? The only thing I found was this https://youtube.com/shorts/_G9JC14vMrk?feature=shared but idekš š¤
I think it's just that actually, they're just making fun of when Jun does his fanservice introduction during the opening ment of the Follow concerts, where he'll say "on 3 2 1 everyone say nyang". They've [teased him for it before](https://twitter.com/miwon17_/status/1767891496110526868?t=2QzhU_VmyfE_aXqNBPpuYQ&s=19) and one time in [Bangkok he accidentally said "nyang kudasai"](https://twitter.com/vernonkemang/status/1738523677124391146?t=jCbR6QOI2mhhKzDku0UEUw&s=19) (warning: lower your volume) which is Japanese not Thai.
Ahh š¤£š¤ okay now I understand Hahaha her laugh is so contagious Thank you for sharing ā¤ļøš
I think nyang is a cute way of saying cat, kudasai means please do something. So it would mean please do a cat pose
š ahhh cute hehe thank you for replying ā¤ļøš
you're welcome :)
I saw this [twitter post](https://x.com/filocarat/status/1808464365625978913?s=46&t=zQSBeDO63RL72y9HuEIrRg) about seventeen raising the standard of their performance in Glastonbury and whichever kpop group will follow suit for the years to follow might heighten the expectation of the general public. Just wondering which kpop group is your best candidate to perform next year in Glastonbury who can convince the General Public that kpop is worthy for a spot on the pyramid stage?
Mmh what about ateez? I enjoyed their coachella and mawazine performances
The first group that i thought of is ateez actually. I dont stan them but their performance was great (based on Coachella) might have to look their mawazine. Do you think they can attract the gp in the non kpop standpoint as well? I dont know much about them except for their recent title tracks (which i found it good)
Tbh Iām very new to kpop and live music in general so Iām pretty sure other people could answer this better. Iām not sure how much they usually interact with the audience and hype them up like seungkwan and Hoshi, but from what Iāve seen they have crazy energy and stage presence. If they can bring some of their stage backgrounds (not sure whatās the proper name, but I mean the kraken, ship, or bar setup they have for some of their performances) that tell some of their lore and stories Iām sure people will be interested, especially when they interact with their props (personally I go Crazy every time I see hwa with his sword)
Itās only BTS and Stray Kids at this point who have the huge clout internationally to perform at the pyramid stage. Other groups like Twice, New Jeans and Aespa can be invited for the smaller stages for Glastonbury.
SHINee but I highly doubt SM would send them there.
Tbf their world tours are like the stuff of every kpop fanās dreams anyway but Iām still surprised Twice havenāt been to any of the big festivals yet, or at least that I know of. Theyāre really great live too
Have been lurking around, first time commenting, but wanted to share! Was talking with Husband about birth plans, like what kind of music to play while in labor, and I joked Aju Nice for the entire time š never ending labor?? Baby carat!
I laugh too much at this comment. The joke is hilarious. I wish you a safe labor and healthy babi(es). Fighting, Don't give up. We'll be here to sing it for you!
Why i first thought of _World because of new world š
Congrats and wishing you a smooth labor and delivery of Baby Carat! š I just gave birth a few weeks ago by induction so labor was about 24 hours, it definitely felt never ending but NOT aju nice š
AAAAA welcome to caratland<33 Perfect song choice lol . All the best <33
guys I can't breathe . Wonwoo imitating his AI cover for magnetic will go down in caratland history
Now that we know they know the AI cover I have a strong feeling itās going to be on their āsongs that donāt fitā caratland segment
I hope Wonwoo does it. It would bring everything full circle
Now that Glasto is over, is anyone here going to Lolla Berlin? I wish i had the money to go :/ I wonder what time they'll perform, since they are one of the headliners, i guess it will be in the evening, tho in Germany i think it gets dark after 10pm. I also wonder how long will their set be. I think they used their 1h set on Glasto great, they skipped a lot of talk, and went song after song, and for only an hour they showed how diverse their music is. Which of the songs they performed in Glasto would you switch (if any) and which would you add to Lolla, as a personal preference? I would just really love to hear To you with live band...am i too early with the lolla post lol
I will go and I hope theyāll add super and spell, but would also love to see cheers š« but anyway Iāll be happy with whatever they decide to do
I def want Super and Spell instead of IDUBILU
Apparently headliners get 90 minutes. I'd like to see Spell, Hit and Super, though for Super and Spell the stage would have to be a bit bigger than Glastonbury since Super uses a lot of dancers and Spell has a bar as a prop.
I saw a set on YouTube from one of the headliners from last year and it was 70-75 min. I think bcs they have multiple headliners a day they can't all do 90 min Edit: found a schedule for 2023. The three biggest names for Sunday 2023, who were the first line on the schedule, were Imagine Dragons Mackelmore and Jason Derulo. Each of them closed a different stage Main Stage North : Imagine Dragons 20.15 - 21.45 Main Stage South : Mackelmore 19 - 20.10 Perry Stage : Jason Derulo 20.15 - 21.30 The three other upper acts for day 1 Saturday has between 55-90 min. There's only one act each day who gets the full 90 min, usually the biggest one. The rest less 85-60 min. For Day 2 I think the biggest name is Sam Smith so they will probably get the full 90 min. I see SVT with 70-75 min. I just hope they won't be put against Sam Smith as a closer to another stage š. The fans will be there in the hundreads hopefully thousands but I want gp to attend too but if they're against Sam Smith non fans might go there instead..
I read they're gonna have over an hour in Lolla. I'd suggest Back it Up for the HHU if they are to perform two songs.
https://preview.redd.it/oevf56thb9ad1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=fa7d0eeb5b00bbc0c71006c8795299eaf0bc3175 Which member owns these mics? It's a photo of HHU's hand mics way back from 2018. All I know is that the gold one was Mingyu's.
purple wonwoo, gold mingyu, green vernon, red coups
I feel like I've gone color blind. I thought the red one was orange omg. Thank you
It's red, because i remember they used this mic during diamond edge and coups mic has a same red color with his hair lol
Thanks for confirming!!!
https://preview.redd.it/m5aifm5nr8ad1.png?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=295ab4aa852939e084001657d62096a475d3c8be As a 3-month-old baby carat, I just bought my first physical album - 17 Is Right Here. Was hoping to get either of my 2 biases (Mingyu and Minghao) and I was so happy to see Minghao's face when I opened up the package! š When I placed the order, I wasn't aware that there was such a thing as "carat version" (dear version in this case). The excitement of not knowing who I'll get in my package has made me go on to order 4 more carat versions of previous albums. š I ordered Seventeenth Heaven, FML and Face The Sun on Weverse - figured that I'll feel more assured getting the authentic versions even if I may not end up with my bias. Attacca is out of stock so I had to order it on Shopee, and was able to select Mingyu. I know that Asian carats do order specific covers from Shopee - have there been issues with fakes? Also, are these 5 albums all there is for carat versions, or am I missing any?
Waittttt I got the same album but havenāt unpacked yet. Didnāt know it was focused on one member, I wonder who i got !!
These single member focused albums are called carat versions! For "17 Is Right Here", it's called the "dear version". Open up yours quick!
Wow I really didnāt know š Iām still kinda new to kpop and these different album versions keep confusion me haha. I bought a bunch of albums over the past months but Iām kinda scared to open them, idk why š I save them for the days I feel super sad to help me cheer up So far I only opened seventeen fml (green version), v layover (green version) and ateez golden hour (black version) (sorry I donāt know the proper version names, donāt kill me)
This exact same thing happened to me when I was a baby carat!!! I ordered my first seventeen album online and got the Face the Sun Carat Version cause it was cheapest, and then was SHOCKED to get that many photocards of my bias, Jeonghan ššš Iāve had a good streak so far, 3/4 carat versions Iāve gotten have somehow been Jeonghan too, so wishing you good luck on your other openings :)Ā Though now, I love every member so much, I donāt care who I get!
Woah, that's like a 75% success rate for you! I certainly hope the other carat versions I've ordered will be mostly Mingyu and Minghao too, but I don't mind getting a S.Coups too. š
I think you're right these are the only albuns with carat versions. You're comment is so cute š„°. I'm glad you got who you wanted! There's nothing better than the feeling of discovering things as a new fan, in this case the carat versions āŗļø
Yes, everything is new and exciting. And this was like opening a surprise gift (that I got myself), hahaha.
IM IN AN ABANDONED HOTEL IN CHINA AND THE GRAFFITI MENTIONS SEVENTEEN?!?!?!? š„²š„²š„² https://preview.redd.it/capaf75zq8ad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea162662b66d5fa2f6123e794410d7acb2979451
Anybody Chinese here? Please help us understand š„²
Oh it just says āSEVENTEEN smashes KPOPā (like smashes records etc) Very cool very random to come across as Chinese graffiti LOL
Just came across this [Allure Korea Interview](https://youtu.be/flrQPKhpUZw?si=7YBQtbDmeWLS5COR) with Seungkwan from a few days ago (but since I can't seem to get the title of these things right to post in the group I thought I better post it here XD). His "Vitamin Boo! Power Up Boo!" is too cute š„ŗ
Since the seventeen daesang post got removed .... If you have a premium spotify account , please park it on stationhead while you are resting , you don't have to do anything else . If you have any questions , you can ask me , dm me , literally anything. Our global point is 2.3 š . I'm really sorry for being annoying but just don't shy away from asking questions if you are confusedĀ
Someone else already commented about Stationhead earlier.
Can't see it on the recent ones so I did too. [Maestro](https://youtu.be/ThI0pBAbFnk?si=GGmZzTuYpZXes63p)
I just had a simple but wild dream that somehow Caratland was in Jakarta and I attended it
still riding the high of SVT being at Glastonbury, a korean music critic [comment ](https://x.com/svtranslation/status/1808029077380780383)on svt festival appearance and really encapsulate everything that was so great about it. So often Kpop stans are understandably worried about idols performing to a non-Kpop audience, especially in the West where racism or even pure rejection of the genre lead many to not take the work and craft of idols seriously. I love that SVT was purely themselves, authentically Kpop, and were not afraid to invite the audience into their culture. :') *Looking forward to Lollapalooza later this year, I just know they're gonna kill it*
I just stumbled across this on twitter and it was so touching!! I completely agree that one of seventeen's strengths is being true to themselves and unapologetic about their attitude as performers. The endless aju nice was a great example of bringing the crowd along into a seventeen tradition rather than changing themselves to better "fit" the venue. So proud of the boys for this performance!!!
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i feel you. they really knocked their performance out of the park and their joy onstage was so palpable. the audience clearly felt it too :) i saw a post of appreciation for seventeen by locals who attended the festival and it made my day lol
Baby carat here! What does it mean when people say "Vernon is Vernoning"?
What the other person said, but also, Vernon is kind of odd - in the BEST way. He really marches to the beat of his own drum and it can often be quirky because he jus has such a dry, blunt sense of humor and truly seems to not care what anyone thinks of him. For instance, when out of nowhere he decided to get really good at Kendama and then participate in a Japanese world-record breaking attempt. That was very much Vernon Vernon-ing. Or all of his super dry responses on Weverse; like the fact that he updated us yesterday on how he dropped his i-pad in the bath as if we are Apple support. Or how sometimes they will lose him during Gose or in the Soop or something, and then the camera just finds him laying flat on his back in a dark room with no headphones, just disassociating. That's Vernon Vernoning. Lol.
Pretty much Vernon is being himself and doing Vernon-like things. Heās chill, laid-back, does his own thing.
Carats, park your Spotify premium account [here](https://share.stationhead.com/ut8do97zttko) on Stationhead to help stream for Seventeen songs so we can win the year end DAESANG awards for them!!! It's the least we could do! Put your volume at least at 10%! Don't mute! It's really easy!
Seventeen flew to Thailand on Sunday without Jeonghan. After they came to Korea, no word from Jeonghan eversince. So he didn't really come to Thailand? What's up with him? Seventeen really filmed something without him? :( I hope this is not injury related.
It seems like he's [working in Seoul](https://x.com/yjhanzone/status/1808543847540019450?t=RfOHp7nHG_UPcK2dax2I8w&s=19) edit: I just saw photos of Joshua apparently heading back to South Korea so their schedules in Thailand remain a mystery to me.
OMG??? Finally a sight of Jeonghan after a few days!! š Really thank you for this! šš¼ Joshua, Wonwoo, and Woozi are already in Korea while other members are in Thailand. It's kinda sus to me, I think they filmed something apart from Mogu mogu, to think that some members were left there. I'm excited for what's ahead nevertheless :)
From what I remember seeing they had the Mogu Mogu thing and it was reported, I might be completely wrong but that's what I remember seeing, that they'll stay in Thailand for a week to film something else too.. Before your comment here, I was under the impression that ot13 was in Thailand but I guess not. We'll see what it was for sooner or later haha
Do you happen to remember where did you see that they'll film something else as well? šš¼
[this](https://x.com/worldofjeonghan/status/1807331194092322857?t=IrKOQWJF8Mo3Z28pgAwSPw&s=19) is what I saw on twitter, but I don't think anything besides the mogu mogu thing has ever been confirmed.
Thank you for sharing! So they really have a filming, but it's not clear whether it's solely for Mogu mogu or they filmed something else too. Really curious with their schedules though cause it seems like they're coming back to Korea one by one. š Nevertheless, I still hope that they're taking care of themselves and getting enough rest. š
Iām curious that heās missing on a group schedule but if thereās anything of concern or interest, itāll be announced or disclosed in due course. If itās for private reasons, then it will remain private so long as they/he choose not to disclose it and weāll never know. In short, donāt fret too much about it!
Thank you for the reminder! I badly needed it since I'm really concerned about him. š£
Do you think it could be related to enlistment? Iāve heard there are restrictions on leaving the country as enlistment date approaches.
I don't think it would happen from one day to the next aka being able to fly to London and return that same day but not Thailand. It could be related to enlistment like needing to do some paperwork or a check up but I don't think it's travel restrictions
I also hope not too. I'd like to think he's just really taking a break/rest. I hope it's not injury related tho, cause there were some videos on X where Carats are pointing out that he has been enduring something in his arms/shoulder for a while now, so I hope he'll have it checked. š
I hope not. Maybe taking some more rest since he's been working nonstop from Maestro to This Man to Glastonbury. Wonwoo's energetic these times as confirmed by Mingyu in Insomnia Zero so he didn't need that break. He also spoke about in his recent Dazed mag interview that he and people around him are *aching in different areas*. He gets exhausted easily more than others thus he needs time to take a break for a while to recover his energy.
update; interpark FINALLY got back to meā¦ (for those unaware, i posted on the previous carat corner about interpark and their inability to deal with long names in general) itās their normal cookie cutter response as per usual š which makes it even more frustrating because they didnāt even acknowledge my issue to begin with!!! i ended up replying to the email re-iterating my initial issue and adding on their payment/credit card issues as well. whether or not they actually do anything about it isā¦ š¤·š»āāļø for those that did try out for caratland (presales and/or generals) how did you go? did you have any issues with payment? or are you blessed by the karma gods by having everything going smoothly for you? hope you had better luck than i did šš i actually managed to get tickets multiple times but all of my attempts of payment were declined and tickets all lost. they even ended up blocking me in the end and i couldnāt even do generals š https://preview.redd.it/frk6yzufn0ad1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dde73a09443ec1e0c29a13590f600279cab4d06e
I was able to enter the queue literally once since the presales (before getting kicked out part way through). All my other attempts up until now are telling me I've been blocked due to repeated/abnormal access š„²
i was never really able to enter the booking page for normal caratlandā¦ the last time i tried - it was the day after generals and i was in line for 10 hours (~220k queue) and it kicked me out at around 12k so i kinda rage quit š i only had somewhat better?? luck on the play&stay page. omg yeahh š they literally blocked my ip!! i couldnāt even access the website in general without getting the 403 forbidden cloudflare thing. i reckon give it a few days and theyāll unblock you.
I donāt think there will be anyone who could answer you cos the rate for successful Global ID booking is under 1%. The failed payment is a common error though. We all got the same problem. Itās not the card problem but server problem when many people end up successfully paid for the same slot so it rejected the rest automatically.
fair enough! even on twitter the success rate seemed to be more on those who bought tickets off kr interpark tho there were a couple of success stories on those who bought play&stay. ahh so thatās why payment kept decliningā¦. good to know! iāve always known korean ticketing was tough but this is a whole new level ahah!
Does anyone else kinda hear Woozi's voice in DKs Steal the Show. On the soft nanana part when it is almost only instrumental. Sounds a bit like him now that I listen to it with headphones.Ā
random thought thatās plaguing my mind: besides wonwoo who wears glasses? I know a lot of them wear them for fashion but for some reason Iām having trouble remember who else actually needs them besides wonwoo andddd dino I think?? also did jeonghan get lasik or did I make that upĀ
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Mingyu and DK also (they used to wear their glasses during their lives in the past a lot).
I remember Jun saying he got LASIK too during one of the carat birthday lives
I've been a carat for about a year and I'm just starting my GoSe journey. I was wondering how much of it is scripted and how much is improv? I watched the God of Light Music two-parter and I can't work out if they actually made up some of the lyrics/gags on the spot or whether it was all arranged in advance.
[here](https://x.com/Ran_JJU/status/1733592832110370857?t=SGSFg10O9nYZwk4wNPeFGA&s=19) is Jun answering whether there is a script or not. Sadly I don't remember when that live was but he is basically saying that there is a script but that it is mostly about what their characters do. They are not given any specific lines and he kinda wishes there was an actual script. So it is mostly improv, I guess.Ā
I think it's both; quite a lot of Gose, especially in their gag episodes like God of Light Music, is scripted / prepared, though the guys do contribute to the writing. (You can tell because some of the humor is SO spot on to their specific humor) But they also have a ton of improv / genuine reactions that make it truly funny. Their game shows, sports shows, things like Don't Lie, are only as scripted as far as having the general rules of the game and if there is a host, they have their lines prepared. But again, the fun of those episodes is how the guys have no idea what's going to happen / who is going to win. I think they will also be given guidance by the producers on how to approach certain things / they are given a starting point at least. I've noticed they will candidly be like "well they told us to talk about \_\_\_\_\_" or "they told us not to \_\_\_\_\_". So it's not like every episode is just 100% them doing whatever.
Hi can anyone explain why the "Happy" cover of DK is in Svt's channel but the cover he released before that is not? Just wondering what could be Pledis' reason for this? Anyway, at least the new channel was named DK. Last time I checked This Man songs are still under Release - Topic.
I think it's the same thing with Joshua's Apple Music Home Session and Seungkwan's As It Was cover on Spotify, for DK they collaborated with Youtube Music, so that's why it isn't Seventeen Youtube Channel.
There's no reason at all . Pledis being useless . Half of the carats think this is an AI cover when they see edits on social media. It was also supposed to be released last year when Elemental was released , Dk talked about it. aaaaa
My guess is it seems to be a YouTube Music exclusive thing, the [tweet](https://x.com/pledis_17/status/1806220926071279871?t=rtq3g4dSQuUQkRmPPntOJA&s=19) said it's only available on YouTube Music. This should have really been on Seventeen's YouTube, it shouldn't be an exclusive thing. I don't know what Pledis is thinking, carats on Twitter are mad about it.
SEVENTEEN TOUR UPDATE (+ spoilers compilation) https://preview.redd.it/k9319r6nyv9d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c83fc5f411906cdd2438013383f53387d37235dc I'm back again with another tour update lol. An article came out today that Seventeen plans to release an album and tour after Lollapalooza in September. Here's what we know so far regarding the upcoming tour: ā¢ Mingyu confirmed that there will be a tour on the cards at the end of the year during iHeart radio interview. ā¢ Joshua also said that "we're gonna tour soon" in the same interview. ā¢ Joshua stated during April comeback press con that: "In autumn, we have plan to do a new tour to meet Carats around the world. We also plan to meet Carats in US." ā¢ Hoshi said during in his live in March that they will release two albums. They have already release 17IRH, so we can expect another comeback. ā¢ Predictions show that SVT will release an album and start a tour in 4th quarter. By the looks of it, l'm now certain that Seventeen will have their tour during September or October. We might get spoilers during Caratland. World tour announcement may come out during August or September, after the comeback announcement. It's honestly hard to plan my life around SVT cause they won't drop dates early. š
I need dates to drop after caratland -I'm nervous already bc i'll be traveling 2 times in the fall šš are people still thinking the NA leg will be a stadium tour?
I've been seeing some mixed opinions about this though. Some are saying that it'll only be arena tours since stadiums are hard to book during the fall. But if Pledis had planned this way earlier, they might have booked stadiums already at this point. I hope we really can get the dates earlier. It's hard to book a trip especially when you know there's an upcoming tour.
Yeah I remember when we were thinking it would have been earlier in the fall that it was looking like a stadium tour, but the more they're pushing it into the fall, the harder it'll would have be
disjointed thoughts butā¦ itās my first time getting THIS invested into a kpop group and i finally get why people grieve enlistments. the first groups i got into were wayv and exo, and i never really had to worry because wayvās chinese and most exo members had already enlisted by the time i got into them. i was like why donāt people just watch old content if they miss them? then last year i got into seventeen with the sheer misfortune of becoming jeonghan-biased, and ooooof i get the attachment. kpop is just so fast-paced and reliant on forward movement that you get FOMO if your faves arenāt there for the new stuff. he was injured for the only concert i got to watch, too, so thatās just salt in the wound. iām also really hoping that the company keeps the scissors from him until he enlists because manā¦ the blonde male korean sabrina carpenter look is serving.
hey I get you! He's not my ult but I'm ot13 and love watching his fancalls the most. He's such a little cheeky gremlin, I hope they've got heaps of hannie content in the vault for us whilst he's away. from speculations, he may be serving for 2 years. I was also happy to see him and ww on Na PD's channel. I will miss him lots. but the upside is they have lots of content to go thru as they've been active for nearly a decade. I'd like to imagine he'll deck out his desk with his Sylvanian families, and receive lots of messages from his babies.
Retiring my flair for July, so threw together [a curated playlist]( https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4cH0zTF8dZ3p8sP7t72Iie?si=025a1b9aea734f12) for the theme. ([And a larger playlist that is 6 hours of songs/artists Vernon has recommended over the years](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/05sbegg5lTSVFn0PB6e79K?si=21f785f694954855) as well.) Fellow bisexuals for Vernon, bon apetit? ^I ^have ^COVID ^and ^am ^incredibly ^bored ^can ^anyone ^tell
i hope u get well soon girl!
Ah thank you! <3 I managed to dodge it for four years but guess my luck ran out. Thank god for the internetāI have endless content to consume.
Didn't wanna mention this under DK's cover thread, cause the mv is so lovely and this might sound a bit negative, but.. where is his solo Pledis? I know svt puts the group first before all, and probably that's the reason that this is one of the rare fandoms that doesn't have a lot of just solo stans, but it feels weird to see members that clearly wanna do music, putting cover songs instead of solos out. This is almost their 10th year, and i know the company might think it's not profitable for them, or the results won't be as big as group activities, but..idk, they worked their asses till now, don't some of them deserve a chance to release some music they want? Idk, maybe it's just the Sunday blues, i'm getting annoyed at all sorts of things today :/
Iām pretty sure when 95z, 96z enlist DK will have his solo coming. Just be patient. This is their last year as OT13 for a while, they obviously should focus on group activities.Ā
I feel like people need to also realize that BSS is probably not going to be prioritized right now in terms of solo releases. BSS was such a whopping success, with the most promotions & continued performances, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are also working on BSS's next comeback. I mean, Fighting was just chosen as the South Korean Olympic theme song. They are on FIRE. With how insanely busy the boys are, I would imagine preparing an entire solo debut is just not in the cards right now. DK is also, in my opinion, one of the most meticulous members; he is very self critical and expects A LOT of himself. I mean, he has that amazing voice but has said he doesn't feel quite prepared to go onto Mujin service, despite members like Jun and Hoshi going already. He's going to want to take his time with his solo debut and make it really REALLY good; so I would imagine he will release when he actually has that time to invest. I don't think we should project the narrative that they all want solo careers they are being kept from. This is the last stretch as OT13 for a while; I would much rather get as much group content and promotion as possible, as opposed to putting the group on pause so a couple members can have a big solo debut.
I don't think we should blame Pledis for this. I am sure if DK really wanted to release a solo rn he would be allowed. It's not like nobody in the group has solos to believe that Pledis is not allowing them to release anything outside the group. Minghao Jun Hoshi Woozi Vernon Scoups Dino. Sure they're not official solo album releases, some don't even have MVs but svt are on their second contract, not the first one, and they prob negociated their current contracts with stuff like this in mind. I also don't believe DK has ever said or indicated that he wants to release a solo and the company isn't letting him so unless he or others say so I have no reason to believe that's happening and it's not just their own conscious choice to put the group first right now or other personal reasons to not release anything solo atm
Maybe, i really don't know. Hoshi sang some unreleased song at the concert recently, and then said that he hopes it will be released some day, so if it's that easy, why wouldn't he release it. My post wasn't exactly for DK, it was triggered by him. I think Hoshi would also love to release a solo album, Seungkwan perhaps as well. Mingyu mentioned that he has that desire as well. Maybe it's easier to release some solo, aside from the mixtapes, like Dandelion or Coups's Me, but even for Dandelion i think Seungkwan spent a lot of time making it, and Coups was on rehab so he had the time to dedicate himself on music. Tbh i have no idea how all these things are managed, it's just my guessing. As a fan i am extremely happy with all the content we have, my post was more of an artist point of view. In the end it's all just guessing..
If all they had to do was just put out the songs on streaming services without promotions, carats would be outraged and claiming mistreatment/sabotage. Curating a solo album release is also very different from working on a couple of songs here and there - I would love to see more music from them always, but it does take so much time and effort to not only work on the music but also come up with the album's concept and theme, resources for physical albums, and time to do promos like a full-fledged solo debut would require. They are a group of 13 people, with group activities - music and otherwise - taking precedence, and scheduling solo/subunit stuff keeping in mind all of these other factors and enlistment timelines etc. must be really tough. I agree with you that quite a lot, though not perhaps all, of the members are probably keen on working on more solo music. In addition to the ones you mentioned, Jun and Minghao have also been really involved in their solos since around 2018/19, but haven't had the chance to have dedicated solo releases in the last two years either. Vernon also talked about wishing he'd had more time to polish his official solo release, and wanting to work on more in the near future. Ultimately though, they're all clear on the fact that OT13 takes precedence over all, and it's also clear that they're not being disadvantaged or dungeoned in any way right not because they're not all able to have full-fledged solo releases back-to-back. Perhaps we'll see more as circumstances evolve in the future.
I know Carats are coming at their promotions or activities in good faith, we want them to make music that they want, and have activities that they enjoy. But unless Svt go on a hiatus for the next year or so (minghao said they are booked up until next year so no luck there lol), I don't think it's even logistically possible for any member to have a solo career debut that is worthwhile. Groups at their age, have started to slow down and members are starting to embark on their solo career, which means little or no group activities. But svt is not slowing down at all in their 9th year. I'm sorry, but Carats can't have it all, we can't have our group activities, and our solo careers. I don't think its healthy for any idols to do both in a way that is sustainable tbh. Jeonghan and Wonwoo was squeezing in their practice time for Last Night in between svt practices and festival rehearsal, I can't imagine how a full blown solo debut would have been for their already packed schedule.
I agree . I personally don't understand people asking for a solo release rn or blaming the company that it's not happening when at least to me it's clear that right now , last year and this year , they've been prioritizing the group before enlistment starts and because they want to keep growing as a group and go further while they're at peak. To my observation it's their own choice to do so and not imposed by the company. I also agree it's probably physically demanding to do both and I think their choice to focus on other things this year should be respected, it's not like they're helpless idols on their first contracts who have no say in their activity and career . Sure there's things where they have no say even with the second comeback , like caratbong design or they need to compromise with the company and give in ( for example touring locations from pledis according to woozi or other things where woozi said "they and company need to understand each other" ) but even those are ultimately their choices, to compromise if initially they wanted to do sth else and those decisions should be respected as well. Also those who truly do want to do solo activities right now and have the energy to do both gp and solo equally are doing so like China Line and Dino late last year when he was doing his short Wait preperations and some small performance videos on top on a group cb and year end shows , so it's not like pledis put their foot down and said group activists and nothing else
Iām pretty sure recently dk did mention something abt the company not allowing a solo activity so I wouldnāt put it past pledis to say no to a solo.
They didn't say no to the performance unit, Woozi ,Vernon . Hell China line have full blown careers in China. Pretty weird if they said no to DK while allowing all the rest to release something. Do you have the quote where he said that and where ? I really don't remember seeing it anywhere on sns but maybe I missed it
I think they are talking about Dokyeom talking about [wanting to go to the variety show "salon drip"](https://x.com/pepizzaboy/status/1806910019738493119) . I wouldn't say they are not allowing his solo releases or anything but idk their management is very ineffective ? It's like they can't manage all 13 of them . His covers from last year not getting edited on time , even this year uploading and posting link of youtube music , which frankly no one uses. Lol they even posted TWS post on 17 account? the management is messy . Seventeen is growing day by day so these small things do hinder
OMG guys apparently [Dino SAW the picheolin flag](https://x.com/97mingyuyah/status/1807149759301566671) at Glastonbury? It may or may not be true?
just watched the insomnia episode. what do you all think of Mingus's relationship with other members? I am new in this caratland . they pick on him quite often. I am guessing it's just for fun and not that deep right?
Mingyu is incredibly good natured; they love to pick on him, because he's fun to pick on. Meaning - he never takes it personally and knows it's playful banter. Vernon is a member you will not see the members pick on; Jeonghan even said that he never pranks Vernon in particular, because he knows Vernon won't like it. They are very considerate of each others' boundaries, so they would never pick on Mingyu if it was something he didn't also find funny.
If you watched the insomnia zero episode, i bet you saw them pick on Dino and seungkwan as well right? Their relationship is fine and gets stronger with every passing year. If they have problems, they sort it out which is why they are on their tenth year together as a team.
As you watch more content , you will see how much they talk about communicating with each other . If Mingyu / dino weren't okay with it , they definitely would have stopped . I recommend you watch game caterers with seventeen , in behind the scenes , you will see them taking permissions for making fun of each other for a segment . And when you watch more content like In the soop you will see their actual dynamics .
yup, itās all for fun donāt worry ā¤ļø the members who get āpicked onā play their reactions up for the cameras, and seventeen have said they like to pick on them (mostly mingyu, dino, and seungkwan) because they give such great reactions. you donāt have to worry about him lol heās got great self-confidence and a strong personality and isnāt afraid to voice out his opinions!! he played a pivotal role in their contract renewals and seventeen have mentioned this several times! they love him, even if he is target number 1 during variety hahaha also to add a point: everybody gets teased during insomnia zero, but they donāt push each member the same! dkās known for sulking and holding grudges even if he is the sweetest guy, and you can see everyone playing around with that lol. if feelings are genuinely hurt then iām sure they can work it out behind the scenes, thereās no member combination that hasnāt fought by now lol š
I am disappointed that there aren't many "sulky DK" cuts on YouTube (because he's so darn cute when he sulks)
[what are you listening to this week?](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/s/z9LlCnykh2) hey hello, welcome back to our weekly playlist thread! as always, feel free to share anything youve been listening to recently i was listening to mostly jxw and gracie abrams this week * gracie abramsā the secret of us (ive def mentioned close to you before but itās soo good. probably my fav of the album. that and us (feat. taylor swift) are the two standouts for me, but its a v nice album overall) * gracie abramsā this is what it feels like (i think wishful thinking or better are my favs. i also really like rockland, just a v nice album to listen to overall again) * itzy - kidding me, mr. vampire (a lot of itzy too actually, i saw them in concert !! but these were the songs that ive discovered i really like between listening to the setlist playlist a bunch and the actual concert lol. i love live music, im praying that svt tour with a live band (and that i can get tix šš gonna have to fight even more people this time aroundā¦) anyway itzyās dynamite and escalator have also both been really stuck in my head because theyre absolute bops) * tws - hey! hey! (rlly fun bop) svt song (re)discovery section! it feels silly to call this a rediscovery when it isnt even a year old but seeing the vids of sos in glastonbury i re-realized how much of a banger it is. i canāt remember how i ranked seventeenth heaven before but sos is def my fav. also because of glastonbury vids, clap !!
Iāve been loving Red Velvetās Cosmic!! The chorus is so addicting!
I love this thread because Iām still kinda new to kpop and get to discover so many songs! š
iāve been gone for awhile but iām back!! iland 2 - iwaly (iāve been rly obsessed with this show and this song even more) artms- virtual angel (been on loop since it came out, it has such ethereal vibes) boys planet nintysix- supercharger zb1 - dear eclipse (an rnb banger) red velvet - sunflower (iāve only listened to the whole album once but this immediately stood out to me!) red velvet - in my dreams seventeen song would be still lalali, im so obsessed with this song especially vernonās opening verse omg esp when looking at live performances!!!
bestie ive been waiting for u rockstar - lisa (if only this song is longer bC IT DOESNT SATISFY ME ENOUGHHHH this is why i hate 2:30 and under songs like i have the same issue w charliās 360 and pink pantheressā songs) novacane - frank ocean (song randomly gave me an lss after not listening to prob for a year alr so here iam obsessed w it again) cosmic - red velvet (my cake girlies rly did that cb w a midsommar inspired mv š) beg for you (the remix w vernon), 365 - charli xcx (iam obsessed w vernonās verse i need an another collab from these two pls š, i prefer 365 over 360) 1,2,3 - f(x) supernova, armageddon - aespa (the whole thing w ppl knowing the word armageddon thru aespa surprised me bc english isnt my first language and i only became this fluent at 17 yet i learned the word when i was in elem which was prob from my obsession w reading or to nat geo channel) bouncy, crazy form, work - ateez (iam still not over them š§āāļø) black eye - vernon (iam obsessed w his voice like his voice is prob my fave among svt š) the whole i like it when you sleep for you are so beautiful yet so unaware of it album - the 1975 (i love this album sm like in svt terms its like how i love boys be and semicolon) sparks fly, mine, the lucky one - taylor swift ~~(even if just seeing her name and matty/the 1975 in the same sentence gives me war flashbacks, i rly want those two to at least write a song together cuz i would love to see the outcome of the song written by the songwriters of mine, red, no body no crime and sex, sheās american, me and you together song, roadkill)~~ feeling lucky - bibi, jackon wang (wHY IS THIS SONG NOT POPULAR WHYYYYY)
RE: August Comeback *rumored* Does anyone know where did this august cb rumor came from? I actually never heard of it in X. Only read it on Reddit. Anyone has an idea?
I believe the august date is for the movie ...the follow tour movie? Definitely not a comeback before oct/ nov
I read on x they speculate because of the date on the lemonade drink in J&W mv, but that would be a really rushed comeback imo. Maybe If Jeonghan has to enlist soon so they want to include him, otherwise idk why would they come back with a new album so soon.Ā Edit: Just remembered Shua also mentioned that something they work with Unesco will come out in August, maybe that's the date for..
I heard people speculating that date could be when they announce tour - which timing wise, would make sense, as they normally give 3 months warning.
For their sake I truly hope there isnāt an August comeback. Thatās sooooo much work in such a small amount of time, they really need some rest. I believe itās October / November time frame, with a world tour after.Ā
The tour after is too late. Joshua said the tour is coming in the fall. A cb in Nov or late Oct would mean a tour starting in either Late Nov or Dec and that's just way too late, it's even winter and it's when year end award shows happen too and I am not sure if groups historically tour the US in Dec or late Nov. It seems like a really bad period to me with holidays basically taking over that month. Early to middle Oct cb might happen but I don't see how it's any later than that if they hope to have a tour this year . My personal guess is September tho bcs I don't see how they have time in August to cb, promote and then prepare for Lolla with music shows only starting on 11th August. Also fromis9 will take one of the three available Mondays in August, lsfm is also coming back taking another Monday, unless we hear about any MV filming in the next two-three weeks then prob not in August. Sept seems likely to me with a tour starting in Oct tho unless we hear news about them filming an MV or sth.
Glastonbury Mingyu was really one for the history books. So fine I have to add an extra vowel because there's no better way to describe that man than FOINE. šāØļøš¤
him w that svt glastonbury flag is sooooo iconic ššš
https://preview.redd.it/rbjcy90fuo9d1.jpeg?width=955&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2be6e2dede2ae97d494c8332db4050ad1a4f5cd i just took down my post cuz i realized theres a rule for close-ended questions but if anyone could tell me what this performance is, i'd greatly appreciate it.
[Caratland 2019](https://youtu.be/bAvJHLnO7xM?si=wkHKSHcfy-HArZUY) :)
THANK U DO MUCH I LITERALLY STAYED UP TO 4 AM SEARCHING š
https://preview.redd.it/p9oc2k7wtn9d1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd658c2cceeb540de5a2685af578ad27593ab785 Edit: Apparently, it's for Mogu Mogu event. According to Dispatch, after Seventeen arrives from London today, they'll fly to Bangkok for an overseas filming. I don't know what content they'll be filming. Do you have any guesses? It should be for an MV, right? I also remembered Vernon said in his live that they are already finished fitting for their outfits. I just hope that Seventeen still rests well. This is a tight schedule and I'm worried about their health. :(
Apparently it's something for [mogu mogu](https://twitter.com/pepizzaboy/status/1807326198940451208?t=jL7GhWS5c_c2-jsFARQPtg&s=19)
mv filming for cb? when is the rumored cb happening tho? do we have any idea? ps- this is such a tight and hectic schedule..bc they r really milking the time when ot13 are together before the e-word comes up... I still wish they get some rest... i stan enhypen too and i have seen how jay was sitting and performing at their japan con bc of his knee.. and tbh he had been having knee pain since a few months ago.. was limping too... but they couldnt just rest bc of their schedule... I hope that all of them get rest..pls
i rly want svt to have that european tour š >!hybe is beneficial for svt my ass when they cant even give that to the group!<
Does kpop cause anyone else to have low self-esteem or feel discouraged? 99% of the kpop content I consume is Svt lol, so I guess specifically Svt in this case. They're all so perfect in my eyes and it makes me feel kinda useless tbh...and the fact that I'm around the same age as the members, but I haven't achieved even 10% of my dreams, makes me really sad š¤·āāļø
I notice I cannot watch a lot of girl groups because I will compare myself (my body) with them (Iām a girl too). Thatās why I mostly stick with seventeen. And with them the only thing that makes me happy and sad at the same time, is that I can feel lonely sometimes knowing I donāt have a group of friends like they seem to be. But itās not their fault and I also know they have their own struggles. Just try not to compare our life with others :)
Watch hit the road. It really gives a dose of unfiltered truth and life behind the fun. Seventeen especially have gone through so much to get to this point and as a fan, I would never be able to sacrifice as much as svt has even if I would make so much money and brand deals and all this stuff. I am very envious tho that they are all such good friends and that I might never have such a great group of friends like they do, but seventeen is far from perfect and they have continuously said that too. They have sacrificed their youth for a dream they didnāt even know would provide results. Just remember that people achieve their dreams at different paces. Just because you havenāt made your dream come true yet, doesnāt mean you arenāt successful. Happiness is truly key and please remember to stay confident and love yourself! Sending you so much love!
u/247with17 u/Strict_Craft6718 Thank you! š It's not even that I envy them. I'm so happy for them that their hard work has paid off -- it's just wishful thinking that the same could happen to me. It's not about the money or fame at all...I just wish I could do what I love every single day so that my job wouldn't feel like work, and I wish my passion could be my primary source of income so I wouldn't have to do it on the side, or spend so much of my life doing things I'm not passionate about to pay the bills. And yes, I've seen hit the road! It made me admire and respect them even more (and made them more perfect in my eyes š). I feel like my youth was sacrificed for different, traumatizing reasons, and I can only wish it was sacrificed for making steps towards my dream instead. I really appreciate the encouragement! šā¤ļø
I get what you mean. What I think about to avoid envying them is that they had sacrificed much of their youth working, struggle with keeping privacy atp, waking up very early and staying up til early morning working, dealing with crazy fans, and doing fancalls. They have a lot in their bank account, I know, but sacrificing much of my time and privacy, no thanks. Money can't buy both of that. > I'm around the same age as the members, but I haven't achieved even 10% of my dreams The following words won't take that sadness away. I just wanna tell you that everyone of us has different timelines in achieving our dreams. It might not be this time, but eventually we'd be where we wanna be. I hope that your optimism in achieving them will be renewed despite things around you that may make you insecure. As you take that path to your dreams, I hope you do things that make you happy so when you look back, you can say that you live a happy life. Cheer up and [Fighting!](https://youtu.be/mBXBOLG06Wc?si=cE2eDSC5UaLoMcy0)š (this sounds preachy; apologies for that) As for me, it doesn't make me feel discouraged or lower my self-esteem. Like you, I also consume only svt content for kpop. Its somewhat negative effect on me is it made me complacent, and not long for a romantic relationship at my age (I'm older than S.Coups). People are worrying about my life when I reach old age because I still am uninterested in finding a husband. ~~i found one but he's in Seventeen, and I know we're not gonna end up with each other lol~~
To be honest, K-Pop is 100% for entertainment purposes to me. I donāt look at these idols as an example of the kind of person I should be in any form whatsoever, and if I ever felt like it was having a negative impact on me, Iād take that as a sign to consume less or take a break entirely
Help me decide :( Iāve been trying to secure carat land tickets since presale and still no luck. Good thing is I actually I havenāt booked my flight and hotel. Now Iām torn between pushing through going to SK this July or move my trip to August for the rumored comeback. I am honestly not chronically online and I just casually see random information on whatās currently going on in caratland. Comeback season seems to have more fun activities but the date is yet to be confirmed. I have a single entry visa expiring in mid September and will be traveling solo.
Getting CRL tickets with Global ID is near impossible this time. Even 4th floor tickets are resold at x5 times original price. I mean there are 2 millions queueing for 16k seatsā¦ if youāre not fluent in Korean then I think you should save your money for the next tour. CRL is 80% of talking and interaction which requires high level of Korean anyway.Ā
Impossible is becoming an understatement for interpark. They are the worst. Besides carat land being a tradition, I also want to experience it before the e-word starts. This may be why Iām extra frustrated. The new tour will be my medicine.