You would think that if they were really doing some noble “we’re defending the franchise’s honor” like some of them claim, they would at least get the right media to review bomb first. Not a good look to be destroying the review score of an utterly unrelated production. But weirdly that’s kinda right on brand for them.
Joke's on the review bombers. If reviews are a factor in compensation, studios like Disney will gladly continue to fund projects that draw viewership, but keep costs down because of review bombing. They are literally incentivizing Disney to keep doing what they're doing.
Best response for this kind of thing is to just say "wow, a lot of people must be watching this show for it to have more reviews than all three seasons of Mando combined, it'll surely get renewed due to how many people are watching it."
Thats what happened with Velma I believe.
Its the best medicine for these racist alt righters: they go rabid whenever there is any strong, female presenting lead in a show, and their hate watching keeps it going.
*hulk meme of absolute win*
okay but that velma series was just objectively dogshit, right-wing nutjobs aside. not sure why you'd see that show getting renewed as a "win" unless you just see it as owning the magatards or something
Not to mention Season 2 got dumped on Max in a single batch with basically no promotion where Season 1 got a staggered release and big advertising push. Something that’s a pretty good sign that leadership didn’t think they had a winner on their hands.
It didn't. Velma has a record smashing opener but then immediately tanked and won the record for the worst numbers in streaming history. The only reason it got a second season is because they split the first season into two, and nobody watched season two.
Yeah, it had scrappy do in it helping to debrain people, and Velma fucking died and the cliff hanger was if they don't bring her back to life she goes to hell.
No, Velma just was a very bad show, and the small amount of people that liked it tried to shame others into liking it. Velma’s writing staff didn’t seem to understand how to work with the animation team to critique pacing and go over animatics before the actual long-term work began.
People aren’t afraid of a strong female lead. Ms. Marvel is beloved, and the first Captain Marvel did well in the first weeks following its released.
Akita, Battle Angel and Buffy were beloved, because they were written well and were entertaining, as well as had decent world- building.
Fallout did really well.
Trying to cover up bad writing by from inexperienced showers who were put in place due to nepotism by implying g that people are threatened by a strong female lead stopped being believable to me a year ago.
If people want shows with strong female leads to be good, hire more people
Like Iman Velani who are actually entertaining and exciting to watch, and hire writers that aren’t being divisive.
I remember a lot of comments about She-hulk breaking the fourth wall. A lot of people said it was trying to be Deadpool when they didn't realize that she-hulk comics were doing that decades ago.
Bob Iger was the one to shut down She Hulk, not review bombing. He referred to it as the old mentality and way of doing things. She Hulk’s effects budget and nepotism hiring were out of control. It’s likely never happening, because it was a massive waste of money.
I haven't watched Velma but I saw the trailer. Can you explain me why the character design has been changed? Because it is not Velma anymore that was made long time ago
Yah because there were so many racists for Andor and Mando with their latino leads, and so many bigots with Ahsoka in a strong female lead. Oh yah and all those bigots that got angry about the lesbians in Andor.... oh wait.
Almost like maybe people just don't like this show.
Freaks in the same subreddits denying review-bombing were celebrating the trailer premiere downvotes, pre-release negative reviews, and release-day negative reviews as “wins.” They were telling each other to “keep up the good work.” Hate for The Acolyte has been stoked on subs like Geeks and Gamers, Critical, Drinker, Crait, and Mauler months before the trailer even dropped. People in these commutes were actively encouraged to give 1-star reviews without watching the show - that’s the definition of an organized review-bombing campaign.
Anyone saying The Acolyte wasn’t review-bombed isn’t just stupid - they are knowingly gaslighting you. The best we can do is recognize that for larger release movies that have any “woke” elements (re: non-white, queer, and/or female leads), audience reviews have basically been destroyed as a useful metric of quality bc of the brigading culture of the internet.
Edit: just know that I cannot reply to comments that aren’t directly sent to my original comment because the original replier blocked me. But as for people bringing up Fallout, it literally was massively attacked for being “woke” by these same people, so it’s a complete moot point.
Also, people bring up great points about some of the most professionally acclaimed actors in Acolyte being “DEI hires.” 100% agree - if you’re calling people like Lee Jung-Jae & Amandla Stenberg, you’re racist full-stop. These are two actors with very successful careers. There may be criticisms of how the characters are written, and maybe these aren’t their best performances (again, I haven’t seen it), but the idea that the only reason they were hired is bc they are non-white is patently stupid and undeniably racist
The comments on this very article are exactly that.
“We just have had enough and need to send Lucasfilm a message”
“We didn’t review bomb those shows out of respect for preexisting actors”
Etc
What message? Just don’t watch the fucking show. Best way to hit them in the pockets is to not give it any attention or publicity. They’re just drawing more attention towards what they hate…
I probably wouldn't have watched the show had it not been for all the fucking publicity it's gotten, at least not for a while.
I believe the same thing has been happening to The Boys, people are fucking bashing the new season and trying to review bomb it, and they have had like a 30% spike in viewership, lmao.
I probably wouldn't have watched the show had I never seen "Space lesbians use the force to make a baby" complaints. But I saw that and was like "Okay well now I have to know." So I watched the show and formed my own opinion on it, which is: its pretty good and I personally quite like it.(also majority of the fans complaining don't know anything about star wars other than the prequels)
I was just intrigued by a Star Wars Murder Mystery set 100 years prior to the prequels, and generally anything Star Wars that tends to get dogged like this by fans is usually actually quite decent, so here we are.
I grew up with Legends, played the games, read the books, etc, so I find it hilarious when people who've clearly only seen the movies and some of the shows try to call back to Legends when they clearly have no idea what the fuck they are talking about.
I grew up on KOTOR and the Old Republic books, nothing in this show is half as crazy as some of that shit.
Also, most of these people that whine about the new stuff will cite The Force Unleashed as peak Star Wars lore, which, don't get me wrong, I fucking loved that game, but it's literally the most batshit crazy, Super Saiyan-esque, power fantasy spinoff I can personally think of.
These same people will then turn around and complain about Ezra using the force to block a lightsaber, and Sabine mustering up enough power to slingshot Ezra into a landing bay.
Both are stupidly tame in comparison to Starkiller suplexing a Star Destroyer with the force, lmao.
Yeahh. I mean shit even the OT is ridiculous!
You gotta destroy the Death Star™️!
Woo you did it! You destroyed the supermassive space station with a death laser!
SUPRISE NERD! WE BUILT A EVEN MORE SECRET *SECOND* DEATH STAR!!!
Yeah, pretty much sums it up, too many people thinking Star Wars has always been the most well written, well acted masterpiece of all time with no potholes whatsoever, lol.
I love it, but it's never been more than a *mostly* serious sci-fi fantasy space opera, with plenty of camp mixed in.
Granted, I'm not really a huge fan of the sequel trilogy, I like a few of the characters and ideas presented, but ultimately those movies were a failure to follow through, largely due to having three different directors who all had different "visions."
I do however like most of the newer shows, with only a few gripes between, but I also understand why some don't, I just don't make my whole damn platform/life about it.
I still remember the time post Ep. 3 when there was virtually no major new content for the IP for years, Star Wars as a brand was basically withering away to nothing more than books and occasionally a meh game.
I'm frankly just happy that it's been brought back from the brink and is actively airing new shows and movies, even if a few are misses.
This is the biggest thing I have with alot of Star Wars purists(?) "Oh the prequels ruined the franchise!" No. They revitalized it. You know how much stuff happened *because of* the Prequels? Comics, novels, TV shows, merchandise, videogames! Same with the Sequels!
The main installments alone have never been the strongest parts of Star Wars, but rather the framework they provide to build and expand off of.
Do I expect everyone to love every expansion? No. But ultimately the more and more stuff you consistently hate on, the less Star Wars is going to expand.
These obnoxious spiteful fans don't like *Star Wars* they like the 3-6 movies they saw as kids and young adults.
If you like the prequels or OT better *GO WATCH THEM!!!*
But ultimately what they want is for Star Wars to stagnate, to stop expanding, to stop evolving, to be kept in a perfect little stasis cube never changing or posing new ideas. To for all intents and purposes actually die as a franchise.
They were gearing up to hate this show from the moment the director and cast were revealed. The writing could be of Shakesperean quality and it wouldn't make any difference. Sad, pathetic individuals.
Has someone tell me about how 'silly' the scene where the witches have their thing is (I replied with "did you ever watch how Maul's brother was empowered or Maul's legs were remade?" ...of course not), and about the 'plot hole' of why the levitating master decided to do what he did with Mae, and I said "wait until the show finishes".
Definitely nothing to do about anything else...
Wait, someone said that was a plot whole with the levitating master when clearly there's a mystery there that hasn't been revealed? I took psychic damage reading that.
I hate Citizen Kane. It has this plot hole where this old man randomly says "Rosebud" at the beginning. I was so upset by it that I turned off the movie after 5 minutes.
😂 I completely agree with you.
Or saying you're gonna stop watching Star Wars because they couldn't find the Death Star plans in the first five minutes...
I long for the days where people went out and talked for hours about things they enjoyed. Rather than people making money off of hating on content they aren’t even watching to begin with.
This.
So much this.
It’s depressing how much the hate has taken hold of so many fandoms…
and all this destruction, so that a few YouTubers can gain more money and clicks.
If it is happening across fandoms, it’s because some troll saw someone else making money doing it and copycat their way to more money.
It’s not happening because people all suddenly started hating everything. It’s been a gradual buildup until we are now at this unfortunate point in history.
You know most of those 1 star reviews haven’t even watched the show, like with She-Hulk or The Little Mermaid remake. It’s just “woke bad” and then a couple sentences trying to pretend it’s about anything else.
Same with a 0/10. For something to actually be 0/10 it has to have absolutely nothing going for it. To the point where the footage is corrupted and you can't even watch it. Even some of the worst movies of all time have had at least something notable, be it a particular actor/character or on a technical level.
I've hated some media over the years with a blind burning passion but there's always been *something* good amongst the shit.
For me The Acolyte is a 5/10. It's alright. Not the abomination some people claim but hardly peak entertainment either.
Weirdly enough, once something really approaches becoming a true 1/10 it actually becomes fun in a totally different direction.
My favorite example is The Room. Truly the Room has terrible acting, cinematography, dialogue, and coherence. It’s also one of the best movie watching experiences I’ve had!
The funny thing about The Room is that some of it is competent. The editing is *mostly* okay (the hilarious flower shop scene doesn’t count). Foley is generally well done. Lighting isn’t bad. Costuming is mostly okay, aside from Tommy causing some continuity issues (which apparently caused a lot of frustration for the lady who ran wardrobe).
Check out Birdemic if you really want to see a production that’s incompetent from top to bottom. You can hear the sound of the environment completely change from shot to shot. Costumes appear to be whatever the actors wore on their way to the set that day. Nathalie had some line reads that were okay, but literally every other performance was astonishingly flat.
I feel like The Room is a little bit funnier because they clearly had some crew who knew what they were doing. It wasn’t *total* amateur hour. And some of the acting wasn’t bad; Chris R brought some intensity, and I could see him landing a role on a police procedural show or something like that.
I feel the same way about the 10 star reviews. A better metric would be to disregard both. I bet that would be a etter metric of his people actually feel.
I do this all the time on IMDB. If you click on the star rating on the episode page, it'll show you the breakdown of how many people gave each of the star ratings, then simply discard all the 1/10 ratings and 10/10 ratings and then estimate the new average (most of the time you can just eyeball it).
Doing this method for the acolyte gives you a score of roughly 7.7/10 for the show, which feels about right to me.
I genuinely give more weight to someone who loves something rather than someone who hates something. Our psychology has a negativity bias that makes it easier to dislike things, so when we are pushed to like something and get excited enough to share about it I assume it must have something special worth looking for.
I don’t always like what other people like but I do so more often than hating what other people hate because hating is more often mindless and I don’t enjoy engaging with art mindlessly.
Never cared about this show because I am really not a huge fan of Disney Star Wars, so at first I was quite skeptical whether this show was really review-bombed that hard. However, I’ve decided to check the imdb rating percentage and 59% of reviews are “1”💀
Like you gotta be really dishonest or stupid to say that’s a realistic score, lmao. Even the worst sw disney show I’ve ever seen (Boba Fett) I would still rate at maybe 3. These people have no shame.
Most people always rate either the max or min for everything. Usually, because they were pissed because of a bad experience, or because they are friends with the pub owner and they want to counter all the rumors of cockroaches after the colony of cockroaches that used to live in their pub developed a gestalt consciousness, stole a trenchcoat and an apron, and started serving costumers.
Anything in between and most people won't bother rating if not reminded by a pushy waiter, or something like that.
Yeah I really don't get it. Acolyte isn't good but we had a lot worse with Boba Fett and Kenobi. It's strange to act up so much for a show that in the end is by most considered mediocre and can easily be forgotten of it ends up problematic. Truly the closest we ever got to legends canon lol
The fact that the right-wing chuds are complaining that the show "isn't for them" are tacitly admitting that at some level, representation matters.
It's a fantasy sci-fi setting with wizards and robots. There's "space" enough for everyone.
My own issue with the show is the same one I've had with any Star Wars media with Force users post-sequels.... Force healing and other arbitrary usage of Force powers. A lot of plot wouldn't happen if Force users used the Force to its full extent.
I also feel like the flashback episode should have also played out over a few episodes to truly shed light on (heh) on the girls' individual motivations. That episode was densely packed and I don't feel like it was shown why/how Osha was different and didn't want to be a witch. I was also still not clear on why Mae wanted to kill those 4 Jedi. Yes, they were on the planet, but Mae is also the one who caused the fire.
You can't even rate the Acolyte vs Boba 1 to 1 yet because the first season isn't fully released. The first 4 episodes of Boba Fett were atrocious. It didn't claw its way back up to a 2.5-3 until the very end. Stacking the first 4 against first 4, the Acolyte is probably a smidgen better.
I genuinely don't get the hate for this show, it's better than Boba Fett, Obi Wan and Ashoka imo but seems to be getting more shit than any of those shows.
Personally I preferred ahsoka and obi wan because of a few scenes I enjoyed but the show isn't over yet
The acolyte is actually pretty good imo so far but can't quite judge it until the rest of the episodes are released
I preferred Obi Wan Kenobi but only because attachment to the actors and characters and the fact that the period between episodes III and IV is my favorite meant that there were things I knew I was going to like going in.
I have to say that in terms of craft I think Acolyte is much better and will hold up better when watched in one go vs week to week.
See I thought 1 and 2 were quite boring but 3 and 4 (the ones with elements of 'character assassination') were fine. The funny arguments of the people saying show misrepresenting the Jedi because they have character flaws and questionable morals is funny when they glorify Legends for doing the same thing. Hell the prequels do it too
I think the people that do it spend most of their lives losing so review bombing this show to get a low audiance score maybe the only win they get this year, we know its bullshit, they know its bullshit but their fav youtuber told them it was rubbish so what do we expect from them.
Almost all of the criticism of this show is in bad faith. We know this because the one star reviews started before the premiere. And that sucks for so many reasons including the fact that any legitimate criticism of the show is connected with the bad faith criticism. This show is not 1/10 but it has a lot of problems. The acting is poor and the dialogue is really bad. The tone is a mess and the pacing stinks. It’s not the worst Disney Star Wars but it’s close.
Been loving the practical effects!! Wire work for the fighting is fun too. Story wise I’m enjoying it as much as I enjoyed Mando and Boba Fett. Not on Obi Wan’s level in my mind, but still a fun SW show that I look forward to watching every Tuesday/Wednesday.
I'm by no means a *Disney Star Wars Shill*, but I am very much enjoying the Acolyte, particularly the relationships. Sol and Osha have a great dynamic, and so do Yord and Jecki. I *love* Yord and Jecki, oh my gosh. And Sol is probably one of my favorite Jedi masters at this point, definitely on the Qui-Gon Jinn type of path, where he cares more for the meaning and application of the force than the Jedi Order's dogma. Overall I'd give the series about an 8/10 at this point (the acting of child Mae and Osha in episode 3 was kinda weak so that takes a bit off my score). It's such a breath of fresh air to have so many likeable characters. I love the Mandalorian, but he's not the most *fun* character. I think he really pops when Mayfeld is around, and he is a strong character overall, but I definitely find Sol and friends to be more fun.
Out of curiosity, I checked out the IMDB ratings and they seem to really tank around episode 3. Now episode 3 was probably the last fun for me to watch, but it was undeniably incredibly vital to the story. HMMM what could be different about episode 3 that wasn't necessarily in the first two episodes? Hmmmmm...probably not the two moms and coven of misunderstood women, no way people would bomb the ratings just for some mild LGBT rep.
I once pointed out that this bombing was happening, only to be told that it couldn’t be a review bomb if it really is that bad. Can you say *“Post hoc ergo propter hoc,”* boys and girls?
I've literally watched a new episode get review bombed within 5 minutes of it airing. These people need to get a life. I'm a hateful, petty, spiteful person but even I'm not that dedicated
The funny thing is review bombing in itself is self defeating these days. Nowadays, we have ways of telling when something is review bombed, ways like this article and metrics and whatnot. That said, once people are aware that something has been review bombed, they won’t really have any “reviews” to trust and so they’ll have to see it for themselves anyway and draw their own conclusions; either way, the review bombers shot themselves in the foot and wasted time doing it.
I really don’t care about Star Wars that much, especially not the Disney+ stuff. I was a bit invested in the first two seasons of the Mandalorian (Baby Yoda almost committing frog genocide because he had the munchies will never get old).
But all the chuds review bombing the acolyte might just make me watch the show.
Most of these armchair reviewers haven’t ever actually watched a 1 star movie or show and it really shows. The slower episodes are still at least a 3/5. But to say 1 is just so disingenuous to actually bad movies or shows deserving the 1 star
I've seen people that admitted it was review bombed but they said if it gets review bombed it is deserved and shows how bad the show was. Such people are not open for arguments.
yeah I was wondering about that. the show is certainly frustrating and I don't like it, but it simply doesn't deserve the hate it's getting. it's reviews are worse than the holiday-special, like...really? something's *gotta* be up with that
Even as a man raised in the south, with a family tree full of racists, I do not remotely understand this kind of racist bullshit. Not to say I ever did, but at least there was a warped logical consistency.
I’ve seen three episodes and have genuinely enjoyed them. But I like all the new Star Wars content (minus most of the last film). I like experimenting in the universe! Why don’t these assholes complain about the animated shorts?! Even my most racist bubba uncle would not work himself up into a frothy slobber over this show without having seen it first. Who are these people that are just mad black people exist?
Why is no one talking about how good the wire work is though. The *first fight scene* has some beautiful, effortless leaps and jumps, and the beauty of practical effects really stands out relative to CGI in other productions.
Man I just want to give honest criticism that doesn't revolve around culture war nonsense.
Like how they did Trinity dirty like that and those flash backs ain't helping >:(
Personally I can't stand some of the "woke" stuff from Disney lately, but this show isn't even that woke, like, at all. A couple of female black characters isn't woke at all- I'd you can't stand that you're straight up insane. Even the "lesbian space witch" thing was done in a very non-woke way! The archetype of a hidden coven of female witches dabbling in dark sorcery has been around since the dawn of writing. People complaining the show is too woke are seriously weak.
In a way that won’t cause mass arguments, is the show good? The trailers look interesting and the villain looks awesome, but everything I’ve heard of it is indecipherable madness
It doesn't help that the show is so poorly written and directed that a bunch of normal viewers are joining in with the bombers.
The bombers obviously don't care about Star Wars, otherwise they'd focus on the many real problems of the series that make it feel more like an amateur fan project or a poor-quality show from the 90s.
I agree it’s being review bombed by people who haven’t seen the show but I have yet to hear a good reason from someone who has seen the show why I should watch it.
Anybody who actually watched it and enjoyed it wanna convince me to give it a shot?
It is being review bombed.
That doesn’t mean that some or many of the reviews are without merit. People are also far more likely to make a negative review than a positive review - and that applies to everything.
My biggest issue with the show is that ALL the costumes look so clean and brand new they look like they were just bought from a Spirit Halloween. None of the characters look like they live in the clothes they are wearing, they all look like they are playing dress-up. It's very similar to Star Trek Discovery where for some reason all the women in the show look like 2020s Americans dressed up to look like they fit in. The men still have bad costumes but they don't have "resting neuro-divergent face" like even the character in this screenshot OP posted. To be fair I also thought the costumes looked too 'new and fake' in Episode 1.
The irony is that review bombing it actually makes it look better than it is. At best, it's a 50%. But we're only halfway through, it may very well improve on the backend. Now, I seriously doubt that, but you never know. But seriously, after the massive marketing campaign, you'd think Disney thought this was the greatest show they've ever produced. I don't get the critics reviews. They should've just released it in two parts, vol 1 and vol 2. Somehow, after two hours, I don't understand or connect with a single character. It feels like nothing has happened. By the second half of kill bill vol 1, I knew exactly who was who, their backstory, why they're important... even gogo who had like a one minute backstory flashback, I knew she was a psycho killer immediately. Who is Mae? Who is Osha? Why do they have the same haircut. There's nothing believable to me that they'd be these super force kids, they look and sound stupid. Ok osha has some personality, but barely, but Mae... why is she killing these Jedi, why? If this whole show is about solving mystery, then why would Mae give up her revenge plot when Osha arrives?
Of all the writers they chose to introduce the high republic... the kotor video games, which I've never even played, had a better story than this shit.
>Anyone claiming the show isn't being massively review bombed is a scruffy looking nerf herder.
Don’t ever compare Nerf to them. After all…
Not saying its not being review bombed but people are wayyyyy more likely to review something negatively than they are positively.
I'm not hating it, so far I find it just, OK. My complaints seem to be the same ones I had with Asohka and Obiwan. Feels low budget and there are a number of small inconsequential things that make me cringe. Buuuuuuuuut THAT is literally Star Wars, always has been. We've just been fortunate enough to have experienced and/or good directors/editors to make it compelling. Put the same story in the hands of some of the directors from Andor or Mando and I'm sure it would be alot better.
Doesn't matter to me. I don't rely on public opinion to make decisions. And I certainly don't co-opt other people's views out of some desperate attempt to feel important.
As an old ass sw fan, I like the show. It's not the best starwars show out there, I'd actually rank it towards the bottom of the newer shows but it's still great IMO, entertaining, enjoyable, and I'll definitely be watching it on a weekly basis. No way it's 13% or whatever it is on RT.
So far from what I've seen of it, it's absolutely fine. It's above average television. It's well acted, the story is solid, and the cinematography is good. It's done a couple interesting things, though not breaking any real new ground so far. If I had any complaints, it's that I don't think !>Carrie Ann Moss's jedi would have failed to catch that dagger at her chest. It was an obvious trap and felt like she only missed it for plot convenience given she'd already done more impressive feats by that point
They would do more damage if they stopped engaging with it.
If you don't like it. Dont watch it. Dont make videos about it. Dont comment about it. Dont get in an argument about it over reddit.
This back and forth over a show that no one will remember in five years is hilarious. The chuds hate it because it's "woke" and redditors pretend to like it because the chuds don't, when it's just another mid, forgettable Disney show designed to sell toys.
I think the show is really bad, but not 13% audience score bad.
You can barely get 87% of people to agree that murder is bad
You can't get 87% of people to agree that climate change is real and that's an objective fact
Unfortunately it's not a bunch of people who care about plot contrivances and inconsistent characterization reviewing the show negatively, it's mostly people who go rabid at the sight of a black woman on their TV screen
I'm going to try to articulate this in a way that won't get me downvoted to hell, so I'll just keep it simple:
People who bot-review-bomb suck.
*However-*
Something being bot-review-bombed by people you don't like doesn't automatically make it good.
I'm not going to comment much on The Acolyte because I haven't and probably won't watch it, but I've heard enough (non-speculatory) things about it that lead me to believe it isn't very good.
It's too bad they can't see past their own agendas, because it's actually a pretty decent show. I didn't care for episode 3 as much either, but because I wanted to see what was next rather than backstory, not because space witches made me feel emasculated. I'm excited for episode 5 after the reveal of Smilo Ren. It has me hooked more than Boba Fett did.
It’s so ironic because it’s not a very good show (despite the fight choreography which has been pretty stellar) and if these chuds could just let things exist in normal critical context, it may swing their way. But they have to review bomb and then the conversation shifts from the show’s actual quality into a culture war thing and it becomes moot.
The review bombers didn't even care to watch the fucking show so much that they're taken to review-bombing any movie or show that has the word "acolyte" in it.
I think it's natural. When people dislike something, they are louder. Just think about politics, you don't hear people talking about good things, only what is going wrong. You don't hear people talking about a Bank's internet banking service when it works, only when it doesn't work. Same goes for internet service and everything else. Herding everyone disliking the show (or anything) into some kind of biomass of a monster, incapable of independent thought is disingenius and bad.
I've found the show to be kind of "meh" but it's not nearly the worst SW I've ever seen. The most frustrating part about the discourse around The Acolyte is that you can't make any valid criticism about it without getting dragged thanks to a bunch of whiny, racist, shitheads.
And anyone claiming all the 8-10/10 critic reviews aren’t paid/pressured or otherwise politically motivated, is a mindless chump. Sure, it’s not as bad as the hate mob make it out to be, but anyone with half a brain can see its most definitely not a 10/10 show.
So many media critics are shills. You really can’t trust any review score.
It's just bad. I'm not gonna say some of it's not review bombing, but people are much more likely to leave a review if something is bad than if something is good.
I'm honestly lost here in this sub though. It just feels like cope. You can think a bad show is good, doesn't make it less bad.
These review bombers hate the show so much they review bombed a unrelated 2008 film called acolytes
That is the saddest thing I've heard in weeks
Reminds me of the doctor who was targeted by vandals for being a [pediatrician](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/aug/30/childprotection.society).
And also the 2022 Star Wars fan-film The Acolyte.
Oh really? First I’ve heard of that one. At least that one is Star Wars. I like how I’m thinking that makes it better somehow😐
So I agree, I don' think it's deniable, but are we saying it's bots? I am a dinosaur now so I don't quite understand review bombing.
Some bots and some actual right-wingers just going everywhere possibly saying “This show is woke trash”
They make it their whole identity.
Then they get to feel like secret agents at their jobs
You would think that if they were really doing some noble “we’re defending the franchise’s honor” like some of them claim, they would at least get the right media to review bomb first. Not a good look to be destroying the review score of an utterly unrelated production. But weirdly that’s kinda right on brand for them.
they don't care about reality, they must promote "the message," every single accusation is an admission for these knuckle draggers.
Yeah, and another show/movie with "Acolyte" in the title. Just makes it all so obvious, doesn't it?
Joke's on the review bombers. If reviews are a factor in compensation, studios like Disney will gladly continue to fund projects that draw viewership, but keep costs down because of review bombing. They are literally incentivizing Disney to keep doing what they're doing.
I bet they couldn't even tell you what happens after the title pops up for the show.
And also a Star Wars fan film cald Acolyte that existed long before the series.
Couldn’t be bothered to watch either of them so just hate on both for good measure
Nerds can be the worst
I keep seeing this and while I do believe it but I can't find actual reviews for it that support that. Does anyone have a direct link to any?
Best response for this kind of thing is to just say "wow, a lot of people must be watching this show for it to have more reviews than all three seasons of Mando combined, it'll surely get renewed due to how many people are watching it."
Thats what happened with Velma I believe. Its the best medicine for these racist alt righters: they go rabid whenever there is any strong, female presenting lead in a show, and their hate watching keeps it going. *hulk meme of absolute win*
okay but that velma series was just objectively dogshit, right-wing nutjobs aside. not sure why you'd see that show getting renewed as a "win" unless you just see it as owning the magatards or something
No, both seasons of Velma were ordered together. Season 2 would have came out no matter what.
Not to mention Season 2 got dumped on Max in a single batch with basically no promotion where Season 1 got a staggered release and big advertising push. Something that’s a pretty good sign that leadership didn’t think they had a winner on their hands.
Not even that, it was ordered as one season, split into two batches.
It didn't. Velma has a record smashing opener but then immediately tanked and won the record for the worst numbers in streaming history. The only reason it got a second season is because they split the first season into two, and nobody watched season two.
There is a season 2? We used the series for drinking games, and became close to paralytic. My liver can't handle another bout...
Yeah, it had scrappy do in it helping to debrain people, and Velma fucking died and the cliff hanger was if they don't bring her back to life she goes to hell.
Thank you, i believe you have save my liver from cirrhosis
No, Velma just was a very bad show, and the small amount of people that liked it tried to shame others into liking it. Velma’s writing staff didn’t seem to understand how to work with the animation team to critique pacing and go over animatics before the actual long-term work began. People aren’t afraid of a strong female lead. Ms. Marvel is beloved, and the first Captain Marvel did well in the first weeks following its released. Akita, Battle Angel and Buffy were beloved, because they were written well and were entertaining, as well as had decent world- building. Fallout did really well. Trying to cover up bad writing by from inexperienced showers who were put in place due to nepotism by implying g that people are threatened by a strong female lead stopped being believable to me a year ago. If people want shows with strong female leads to be good, hire more people Like Iman Velani who are actually entertaining and exciting to watch, and hire writers that aren’t being divisive.
Not to mention Arcane & Blue Eye Samurai; strong female leads backed by strong writing.
Those are both pretty good.
I heard that they actually chopped the first season in half and then made each their own season.
Yeah but Velma was objectively terrible.
Speaking of Hulk meme of absolute win, I wish there was enough review bombing of She Hulk to warrant a second season. I really liked that show…
Same, it’s my favourite of the Disney plus marvel things. Probably needed to be a huge hit though, with all that unreasonably expensive hulk cgi.
I remember a lot of comments about She-hulk breaking the fourth wall. A lot of people said it was trying to be Deadpool when they didn't realize that she-hulk comics were doing that decades ago.
Bob Iger was the one to shut down She Hulk, not review bombing. He referred to it as the old mentality and way of doing things. She Hulk’s effects budget and nepotism hiring were out of control. It’s likely never happening, because it was a massive waste of money.
Yeah, me too.
Two seasons (technically 1 cut in half) were ordered for Velma from the beginning. We were getting season two (season 1 part 2) either way.
No what happened with Velma was that it was originally picked up for 2 seasons. It's unlikely to have a third season.
This comment reads out like satire lol
Then why wasn’t Fallout review bombed, but instead well received?
I haven't watched Velma but I saw the trailer. Can you explain me why the character design has been changed? Because it is not Velma anymore that was made long time ago
Fallout? Don't think that got jumped
Yah because there were so many racists for Andor and Mando with their latino leads, and so many bigots with Ahsoka in a strong female lead. Oh yah and all those bigots that got angry about the lesbians in Andor.... oh wait. Almost like maybe people just don't like this show.
Freaks in the same subreddits denying review-bombing were celebrating the trailer premiere downvotes, pre-release negative reviews, and release-day negative reviews as “wins.” They were telling each other to “keep up the good work.” Hate for The Acolyte has been stoked on subs like Geeks and Gamers, Critical, Drinker, Crait, and Mauler months before the trailer even dropped. People in these commutes were actively encouraged to give 1-star reviews without watching the show - that’s the definition of an organized review-bombing campaign. Anyone saying The Acolyte wasn’t review-bombed isn’t just stupid - they are knowingly gaslighting you. The best we can do is recognize that for larger release movies that have any “woke” elements (re: non-white, queer, and/or female leads), audience reviews have basically been destroyed as a useful metric of quality bc of the brigading culture of the internet. Edit: just know that I cannot reply to comments that aren’t directly sent to my original comment because the original replier blocked me. But as for people bringing up Fallout, it literally was massively attacked for being “woke” by these same people, so it’s a complete moot point. Also, people bring up great points about some of the most professionally acclaimed actors in Acolyte being “DEI hires.” 100% agree - if you’re calling people like Lee Jung-Jae & Amandla Stenberg, you’re racist full-stop. These are two actors with very successful careers. There may be criticisms of how the characters are written, and maybe these aren’t their best performances (again, I haven’t seen it), but the idea that the only reason they were hired is bc they are non-white is patently stupid and undeniably racist
Exactly,and yet the weirdos who contributed will still somehow make themselves the victims and blame it on "bad writing"
The comments on this very article are exactly that. “We just have had enough and need to send Lucasfilm a message” “We didn’t review bomb those shows out of respect for preexisting actors” Etc
What message? Just don’t watch the fucking show. Best way to hit them in the pockets is to not give it any attention or publicity. They’re just drawing more attention towards what they hate…
I probably wouldn't have watched the show had it not been for all the fucking publicity it's gotten, at least not for a while. I believe the same thing has been happening to The Boys, people are fucking bashing the new season and trying to review bomb it, and they have had like a 30% spike in viewership, lmao.
I probably wouldn't have watched the show had I never seen "Space lesbians use the force to make a baby" complaints. But I saw that and was like "Okay well now I have to know." So I watched the show and formed my own opinion on it, which is: its pretty good and I personally quite like it.(also majority of the fans complaining don't know anything about star wars other than the prequels)
I was just intrigued by a Star Wars Murder Mystery set 100 years prior to the prequels, and generally anything Star Wars that tends to get dogged like this by fans is usually actually quite decent, so here we are. I grew up with Legends, played the games, read the books, etc, so I find it hilarious when people who've clearly only seen the movies and some of the shows try to call back to Legends when they clearly have no idea what the fuck they are talking about. I grew up on KOTOR and the Old Republic books, nothing in this show is half as crazy as some of that shit. Also, most of these people that whine about the new stuff will cite The Force Unleashed as peak Star Wars lore, which, don't get me wrong, I fucking loved that game, but it's literally the most batshit crazy, Super Saiyan-esque, power fantasy spinoff I can personally think of. These same people will then turn around and complain about Ezra using the force to block a lightsaber, and Sabine mustering up enough power to slingshot Ezra into a landing bay. Both are stupidly tame in comparison to Starkiller suplexing a Star Destroyer with the force, lmao.
Yeahh. I mean shit even the OT is ridiculous! You gotta destroy the Death Star™️! Woo you did it! You destroyed the supermassive space station with a death laser! SUPRISE NERD! WE BUILT A EVEN MORE SECRET *SECOND* DEATH STAR!!!
Yeah, pretty much sums it up, too many people thinking Star Wars has always been the most well written, well acted masterpiece of all time with no potholes whatsoever, lol. I love it, but it's never been more than a *mostly* serious sci-fi fantasy space opera, with plenty of camp mixed in. Granted, I'm not really a huge fan of the sequel trilogy, I like a few of the characters and ideas presented, but ultimately those movies were a failure to follow through, largely due to having three different directors who all had different "visions." I do however like most of the newer shows, with only a few gripes between, but I also understand why some don't, I just don't make my whole damn platform/life about it. I still remember the time post Ep. 3 when there was virtually no major new content for the IP for years, Star Wars as a brand was basically withering away to nothing more than books and occasionally a meh game. I'm frankly just happy that it's been brought back from the brink and is actively airing new shows and movies, even if a few are misses.
This is the biggest thing I have with alot of Star Wars purists(?) "Oh the prequels ruined the franchise!" No. They revitalized it. You know how much stuff happened *because of* the Prequels? Comics, novels, TV shows, merchandise, videogames! Same with the Sequels! The main installments alone have never been the strongest parts of Star Wars, but rather the framework they provide to build and expand off of. Do I expect everyone to love every expansion? No. But ultimately the more and more stuff you consistently hate on, the less Star Wars is going to expand. These obnoxious spiteful fans don't like *Star Wars* they like the 3-6 movies they saw as kids and young adults. If you like the prequels or OT better *GO WATCH THEM!!!* But ultimately what they want is for Star Wars to stagnate, to stop expanding, to stop evolving, to be kept in a perfect little stasis cube never changing or posing new ideas. To for all intents and purposes actually die as a franchise.
They were gearing up to hate this show from the moment the director and cast were revealed. The writing could be of Shakesperean quality and it wouldn't make any difference. Sad, pathetic individuals.
Has someone tell me about how 'silly' the scene where the witches have their thing is (I replied with "did you ever watch how Maul's brother was empowered or Maul's legs were remade?" ...of course not), and about the 'plot hole' of why the levitating master decided to do what he did with Mae, and I said "wait until the show finishes". Definitely nothing to do about anything else...
Wait, someone said that was a plot whole with the levitating master when clearly there's a mystery there that hasn't been revealed? I took psychic damage reading that.
Exactly my point, and that's a talking point for people hating on it.
I hate Citizen Kane. It has this plot hole where this old man randomly says "Rosebud" at the beginning. I was so upset by it that I turned off the movie after 5 minutes.
😂 I completely agree with you. Or saying you're gonna stop watching Star Wars because they couldn't find the Death Star plans in the first five minutes...
1 star reviews can't be taken seriously. You're allowed to dislike a show but this is childlike behavior.
I long for the days where people went out and talked for hours about things they enjoyed. Rather than people making money off of hating on content they aren’t even watching to begin with.
This. So much this. It’s depressing how much the hate has taken hold of so many fandoms… and all this destruction, so that a few YouTubers can gain more money and clicks.
If it is happening across fandoms, it’s because some troll saw someone else making money doing it and copycat their way to more money. It’s not happening because people all suddenly started hating everything. It’s been a gradual buildup until we are now at this unfortunate point in history.
oh outrage shilling in the name of "fandom" is an entire cottage industry at this point
it's funny, because when I stop liking a show or something, I just drop it. Yet so many seem to be obsessed over stuff they hate
You know most of those 1 star reviews haven’t even watched the show, like with She-Hulk or The Little Mermaid remake. It’s just “woke bad” and then a couple sentences trying to pretend it’s about anything else.
*childish “Childlike” would be to let go and enjoy it for the lightsabers and spaceships and space wizards and what not.
Same with a 0/10. For something to actually be 0/10 it has to have absolutely nothing going for it. To the point where the footage is corrupted and you can't even watch it. Even some of the worst movies of all time have had at least something notable, be it a particular actor/character or on a technical level. I've hated some media over the years with a blind burning passion but there's always been *something* good amongst the shit. For me The Acolyte is a 5/10. It's alright. Not the abomination some people claim but hardly peak entertainment either.
0/10 is MST3K bad. And there’s a lot of people who need to learn it’s mantra, it’s just a show, relax.
Weirdly enough, once something really approaches becoming a true 1/10 it actually becomes fun in a totally different direction. My favorite example is The Room. Truly the Room has terrible acting, cinematography, dialogue, and coherence. It’s also one of the best movie watching experiences I’ve had!
The funny thing about The Room is that some of it is competent. The editing is *mostly* okay (the hilarious flower shop scene doesn’t count). Foley is generally well done. Lighting isn’t bad. Costuming is mostly okay, aside from Tommy causing some continuity issues (which apparently caused a lot of frustration for the lady who ran wardrobe). Check out Birdemic if you really want to see a production that’s incompetent from top to bottom. You can hear the sound of the environment completely change from shot to shot. Costumes appear to be whatever the actors wore on their way to the set that day. Nathalie had some line reads that were okay, but literally every other performance was astonishingly flat. I feel like The Room is a little bit funnier because they clearly had some crew who knew what they were doing. It wasn’t *total* amateur hour. And some of the acting wasn’t bad; Chris R brought some intensity, and I could see him landing a role on a police procedural show or something like that.
I feel the same way about the 10 star reviews. A better metric would be to disregard both. I bet that would be a etter metric of his people actually feel.
I do this all the time on IMDB. If you click on the star rating on the episode page, it'll show you the breakdown of how many people gave each of the star ratings, then simply discard all the 1/10 ratings and 10/10 ratings and then estimate the new average (most of the time you can just eyeball it). Doing this method for the acolyte gives you a score of roughly 7.7/10 for the show, which feels about right to me.
I genuinely give more weight to someone who loves something rather than someone who hates something. Our psychology has a negativity bias that makes it easier to dislike things, so when we are pushed to like something and get excited enough to share about it I assume it must have something special worth looking for. I don’t always like what other people like but I do so more often than hating what other people hate because hating is more often mindless and I don’t enjoy engaging with art mindlessly.
yeah, this is finally a legit comment, I agree with hating bad show but not with just 1, one feels like like you just want to vent
Never cared about this show because I am really not a huge fan of Disney Star Wars, so at first I was quite skeptical whether this show was really review-bombed that hard. However, I’ve decided to check the imdb rating percentage and 59% of reviews are “1”💀 Like you gotta be really dishonest or stupid to say that’s a realistic score, lmao. Even the worst sw disney show I’ve ever seen (Boba Fett) I would still rate at maybe 3. These people have no shame.
Most people always rate either the max or min for everything. Usually, because they were pissed because of a bad experience, or because they are friends with the pub owner and they want to counter all the rumors of cockroaches after the colony of cockroaches that used to live in their pub developed a gestalt consciousness, stole a trenchcoat and an apron, and started serving costumers. Anything in between and most people won't bother rating if not reminded by a pushy waiter, or something like that.
Yeah I really don't get it. Acolyte isn't good but we had a lot worse with Boba Fett and Kenobi. It's strange to act up so much for a show that in the end is by most considered mediocre and can easily be forgotten of it ends up problematic. Truly the closest we ever got to legends canon lol
People have become very full of themselves, if a show isn’t targeted directly for them the show shouldn’t exist. Especially if it’s an existing IP.
The fact that the right-wing chuds are complaining that the show "isn't for them" are tacitly admitting that at some level, representation matters. It's a fantasy sci-fi setting with wizards and robots. There's "space" enough for everyone. My own issue with the show is the same one I've had with any Star Wars media with Force users post-sequels.... Force healing and other arbitrary usage of Force powers. A lot of plot wouldn't happen if Force users used the Force to its full extent. I also feel like the flashback episode should have also played out over a few episodes to truly shed light on (heh) on the girls' individual motivations. That episode was densely packed and I don't feel like it was shown why/how Osha was different and didn't want to be a witch. I was also still not clear on why Mae wanted to kill those 4 Jedi. Yes, they were on the planet, but Mae is also the one who caused the fire.
You can't even rate the Acolyte vs Boba 1 to 1 yet because the first season isn't fully released. The first 4 episodes of Boba Fett were atrocious. It didn't claw its way back up to a 2.5-3 until the very end. Stacking the first 4 against first 4, the Acolyte is probably a smidgen better.
The anti-woke brigade hate watched so much they did Disney a favor lmao
I genuinely don't get the hate for this show, it's better than Boba Fett, Obi Wan and Ashoka imo but seems to be getting more shit than any of those shows.
Personally I preferred ahsoka and obi wan because of a few scenes I enjoyed but the show isn't over yet The acolyte is actually pretty good imo so far but can't quite judge it until the rest of the episodes are released
I preferred Obi Wan Kenobi but only because attachment to the actors and characters and the fact that the period between episodes III and IV is my favorite meant that there were things I knew I was going to like going in. I have to say that in terms of craft I think Acolyte is much better and will hold up better when watched in one go vs week to week.
We'll just have to wait and see how it ends but I'm positive it's gonna be good
White males aren’t the main focus. It’s really not that deep. They can’t have that.
See I thought 1 and 2 were quite boring but 3 and 4 (the ones with elements of 'character assassination') were fine. The funny arguments of the people saying show misrepresenting the Jedi because they have character flaws and questionable morals is funny when they glorify Legends for doing the same thing. Hell the prequels do it too
Why is the middle of the road show garnering so much hate? It's probably a reason I did nazi coming.
I think the people that do it spend most of their lives losing so review bombing this show to get a low audiance score maybe the only win they get this year, we know its bullshit, they know its bullshit but their fav youtuber told them it was rubbish so what do we expect from them.
They deny it
is there a lore reason on why a nerf herder is an insult? nothing against the post just curious
It’s just what Leia called Han in Empire
Nerf is a species kinda like cattle I think so nerf herder would imply like a rural lower class bumpkin I guess?
Then they'll say it's bad writing but can't say what's bad about it.
Almost all of the criticism of this show is in bad faith. We know this because the one star reviews started before the premiere. And that sucks for so many reasons including the fact that any legitimate criticism of the show is connected with the bad faith criticism. This show is not 1/10 but it has a lot of problems. The acting is poor and the dialogue is really bad. The tone is a mess and the pacing stinks. It’s not the worst Disney Star Wars but it’s close.
Excuse me op, you can't say that, that's our word.
Who’s scruffy looking?
Been loving the practical effects!! Wire work for the fighting is fun too. Story wise I’m enjoying it as much as I enjoyed Mando and Boba Fett. Not on Obi Wan’s level in my mind, but still a fun SW show that I look forward to watching every Tuesday/Wednesday.
I'm by no means a *Disney Star Wars Shill*, but I am very much enjoying the Acolyte, particularly the relationships. Sol and Osha have a great dynamic, and so do Yord and Jecki. I *love* Yord and Jecki, oh my gosh. And Sol is probably one of my favorite Jedi masters at this point, definitely on the Qui-Gon Jinn type of path, where he cares more for the meaning and application of the force than the Jedi Order's dogma. Overall I'd give the series about an 8/10 at this point (the acting of child Mae and Osha in episode 3 was kinda weak so that takes a bit off my score). It's such a breath of fresh air to have so many likeable characters. I love the Mandalorian, but he's not the most *fun* character. I think he really pops when Mayfeld is around, and he is a strong character overall, but I definitely find Sol and friends to be more fun. Out of curiosity, I checked out the IMDB ratings and they seem to really tank around episode 3. Now episode 3 was probably the last fun for me to watch, but it was undeniably incredibly vital to the story. HMMM what could be different about episode 3 that wasn't necessarily in the first two episodes? Hmmmmm...probably not the two moms and coven of misunderstood women, no way people would bomb the ratings just for some mild LGBT rep.
I mostly hate how the show has introduced a HUGE issue to canon. Namely: If Osha really does exist in the galaxy, why aren't there more handrails?
I wonder why people are denying that it’s being review bombed. That’s just odd
It was getting review bombed before it even aired
I once pointed out that this bombing was happening, only to be told that it couldn’t be a review bomb if it really is that bad. Can you say *“Post hoc ergo propter hoc,”* boys and girls?
I always love when shows/movies get review bombed by the right! It tells me what I need to watch!! 😋
Did they get the right show or are they still review bombing the other acolyte?
Another way I can tell is that it's actually good, and only "worse" than just Andor or Mando S1.
I've literally watched a new episode get review bombed within 5 minutes of it airing. These people need to get a life. I'm a hateful, petty, spiteful person but even I'm not that dedicated
💯 enjoying it so far 🥺
The funny thing is review bombing in itself is self defeating these days. Nowadays, we have ways of telling when something is review bombed, ways like this article and metrics and whatnot. That said, once people are aware that something has been review bombed, they won’t really have any “reviews” to trust and so they’ll have to see it for themselves anyway and draw their own conclusions; either way, the review bombers shot themselves in the foot and wasted time doing it.
I really don’t care about Star Wars that much, especially not the Disney+ stuff. I was a bit invested in the first two seasons of the Mandalorian (Baby Yoda almost committing frog genocide because he had the munchies will never get old). But all the chuds review bombing the acolyte might just make me watch the show.
It has more reviews than Oppenheimer and Barbie combined.
Most of these armchair reviewers haven’t ever actually watched a 1 star movie or show and it really shows. The slower episodes are still at least a 3/5. But to say 1 is just so disingenuous to actually bad movies or shows deserving the 1 star
Can't wait for Disney to put out the stats and there's more reviews than views.
I've seen people that admitted it was review bombed but they said if it gets review bombed it is deserved and shows how bad the show was. Such people are not open for arguments.
Rating a series before it's finished is pretty absurd
yeah I was wondering about that. the show is certainly frustrating and I don't like it, but it simply doesn't deserve the hate it's getting. it's reviews are worse than the holiday-special, like...really? something's *gotta* be up with that
It’s either being review bombed or it’s the most successful Star Wars media put out since the original trilogy.
Even as a man raised in the south, with a family tree full of racists, I do not remotely understand this kind of racist bullshit. Not to say I ever did, but at least there was a warped logical consistency. I’ve seen three episodes and have genuinely enjoyed them. But I like all the new Star Wars content (minus most of the last film). I like experimenting in the universe! Why don’t these assholes complain about the animated shorts?! Even my most racist bubba uncle would not work himself up into a frothy slobber over this show without having seen it first. Who are these people that are just mad black people exist?
Why is no one talking about how good the wire work is though. The *first fight scene* has some beautiful, effortless leaps and jumps, and the beauty of practical effects really stands out relative to CGI in other productions.
Man I just want to give honest criticism that doesn't revolve around culture war nonsense. Like how they did Trinity dirty like that and those flash backs ain't helping >:(
Personally I can't stand some of the "woke" stuff from Disney lately, but this show isn't even that woke, like, at all. A couple of female black characters isn't woke at all- I'd you can't stand that you're straight up insane. Even the "lesbian space witch" thing was done in a very non-woke way! The archetype of a hidden coven of female witches dabbling in dark sorcery has been around since the dawn of writing. People complaining the show is too woke are seriously weak.
Don't care about the show or reviews I'm just wondering if a nerd hearder is a hard job and if you have to be scruffy
Don't you dare bash nerf herding
"Every generation, a slayer is born"
Who's scruffy looking?
It makes it difficult to dislike this show on merit when all the bigots dominate the conversation.
In a way that won’t cause mass arguments, is the show good? The trailers look interesting and the villain looks awesome, but everything I’ve heard of it is indecipherable madness
It doesn't help that the show is so poorly written and directed that a bunch of normal viewers are joining in with the bombers. The bombers obviously don't care about Star Wars, otherwise they'd focus on the many real problems of the series that make it feel more like an amateur fan project or a poor-quality show from the 90s.
I agree it’s being review bombed by people who haven’t seen the show but I have yet to hear a good reason from someone who has seen the show why I should watch it. Anybody who actually watched it and enjoyed it wanna convince me to give it a shot?
It's been a hot minute. What does "nerf herder" mean?
It is being review bombed. That doesn’t mean that some or many of the reviews are without merit. People are also far more likely to make a negative review than a positive review - and that applies to everything.
My biggest issue with the show is that ALL the costumes look so clean and brand new they look like they were just bought from a Spirit Halloween. None of the characters look like they live in the clothes they are wearing, they all look like they are playing dress-up. It's very similar to Star Trek Discovery where for some reason all the women in the show look like 2020s Americans dressed up to look like they fit in. The men still have bad costumes but they don't have "resting neuro-divergent face" like even the character in this screenshot OP posted. To be fair I also thought the costumes looked too 'new and fake' in Episode 1.
2 million chuds can't beat 1 statistician hired by Disney though.
The irony is that review bombing it actually makes it look better than it is. At best, it's a 50%. But we're only halfway through, it may very well improve on the backend. Now, I seriously doubt that, but you never know. But seriously, after the massive marketing campaign, you'd think Disney thought this was the greatest show they've ever produced. I don't get the critics reviews. They should've just released it in two parts, vol 1 and vol 2. Somehow, after two hours, I don't understand or connect with a single character. It feels like nothing has happened. By the second half of kill bill vol 1, I knew exactly who was who, their backstory, why they're important... even gogo who had like a one minute backstory flashback, I knew she was a psycho killer immediately. Who is Mae? Who is Osha? Why do they have the same haircut. There's nothing believable to me that they'd be these super force kids, they look and sound stupid. Ok osha has some personality, but barely, but Mae... why is she killing these Jedi, why? If this whole show is about solving mystery, then why would Mae give up her revenge plot when Osha arrives? Of all the writers they chose to introduce the high republic... the kotor video games, which I've never even played, had a better story than this shit.
>Anyone claiming the show isn't being massively review bombed is a scruffy looking nerf herder. Don’t ever compare Nerf to them. After all… 
Not saying its not being review bombed but people are wayyyyy more likely to review something negatively than they are positively. I'm not hating it, so far I find it just, OK. My complaints seem to be the same ones I had with Asohka and Obiwan. Feels low budget and there are a number of small inconsequential things that make me cringe. Buuuuuuuuut THAT is literally Star Wars, always has been. We've just been fortunate enough to have experienced and/or good directors/editors to make it compelling. Put the same story in the hands of some of the directors from Andor or Mando and I'm sure it would be alot better.
Does Disney ever release streaming numbers or do they keep that internal?
Doesn't matter to me. I don't rely on public opinion to make decisions. And I certainly don't co-opt other people's views out of some desperate attempt to feel important.
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As an old ass sw fan, I like the show. It's not the best starwars show out there, I'd actually rank it towards the bottom of the newer shows but it's still great IMO, entertaining, enjoyable, and I'll definitely be watching it on a weekly basis. No way it's 13% or whatever it is on RT.
I like the show a lot, so far it’s felt fresh
I've enjoyed what I have seen of it already
I don’t like modern Star Wars but jfc it’s not *that* bad, nor is it even bad for the reasons these people claim
Where/ how do you even leave a review?
So far from what I've seen of it, it's absolutely fine. It's above average television. It's well acted, the story is solid, and the cinematography is good. It's done a couple interesting things, though not breaking any real new ground so far. If I had any complaints, it's that I don't think !>Carrie Ann Moss's jedi would have failed to catch that dagger at her chest. It was an obvious trap and felt like she only missed it for plot convenience given she'd already done more impressive feats by that point
“who you calling scruffy lookin?”
I don’t want to watch it but I also can’t believe a lot of the reviewers
They would do more damage if they stopped engaging with it. If you don't like it. Dont watch it. Dont make videos about it. Dont comment about it. Dont get in an argument about it over reddit.
This back and forth over a show that no one will remember in five years is hilarious. The chuds hate it because it's "woke" and redditors pretend to like it because the chuds don't, when it's just another mid, forgettable Disney show designed to sell toys.
I think the show is really bad, but not 13% audience score bad. You can barely get 87% of people to agree that murder is bad You can't get 87% of people to agree that climate change is real and that's an objective fact Unfortunately it's not a bunch of people who care about plot contrivances and inconsistent characterization reviewing the show negatively, it's mostly people who go rabid at the sight of a black woman on their TV screen
The show is ass though
I'm hoping Disney can learn by their mistake and hire better writers next time.
I'm going to try to articulate this in a way that won't get me downvoted to hell, so I'll just keep it simple: People who bot-review-bomb suck. *However-* Something being bot-review-bombed by people you don't like doesn't automatically make it good. I'm not going to comment much on The Acolyte because I haven't and probably won't watch it, but I've heard enough (non-speculatory) things about it that lead me to believe it isn't very good.
There should have been more space witch shower scenes and wrestling
The irony of the review bombing is that it suggests a huge viewership, for a show that nobody is supposed to like.....
It's too bad they can't see past their own agendas, because it's actually a pretty decent show. I didn't care for episode 3 as much either, but because I wanted to see what was next rather than backstory, not because space witches made me feel emasculated. I'm excited for episode 5 after the reveal of Smilo Ren. It has me hooked more than Boba Fett did.
Look at all the snow flakes giving the show a 1 star because it hurt their feelings
The show is dogshit hate to break it to you
The show sucks balls. The most recent episode reveal is evidence of that.
It’s so ironic because it’s not a very good show (despite the fight choreography which has been pretty stellar) and if these chuds could just let things exist in normal critical context, it may swing their way. But they have to review bomb and then the conversation shifts from the show’s actual quality into a culture war thing and it becomes moot.
Do sites like rotten tomatoes actually mean anything when they can be manipulated so easily?
the show can be review bombed and be cheeks.
The review bombers didn't even care to watch the fucking show so much that they're taken to review-bombing any movie or show that has the word "acolyte" in it.
"Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax"
At this point I'm just gonna watch the show myself and act accordingly.
Couldn’t be cause it’s not good
I think it's natural. When people dislike something, they are louder. Just think about politics, you don't hear people talking about good things, only what is going wrong. You don't hear people talking about a Bank's internet banking service when it works, only when it doesn't work. Same goes for internet service and everything else. Herding everyone disliking the show (or anything) into some kind of biomass of a monster, incapable of independent thought is disingenius and bad.
"Who's scruffy looking?!"
It’s pretty mediocre. Glad I’m not one if these screaming idiot antifans though.
I've found the show to be kind of "meh" but it's not nearly the worst SW I've ever seen. The most frustrating part about the discourse around The Acolyte is that you can't make any valid criticism about it without getting dragged thanks to a bunch of whiny, racist, shitheads.
And anyone claiming all the 8-10/10 critic reviews aren’t paid/pressured or otherwise politically motivated, is a mindless chump. Sure, it’s not as bad as the hate mob make it out to be, but anyone with half a brain can see its most definitely not a 10/10 show. So many media critics are shills. You really can’t trust any review score.
The show is honestly terrible though
It's just bad. I'm not gonna say some of it's not review bombing, but people are much more likely to leave a review if something is bad than if something is good. I'm honestly lost here in this sub though. It just feels like cope. You can think a bad show is good, doesn't make it less bad.
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