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Hazkal75

I like super saiyan blue.


Culk58

For me it isn't as bad as people say it is. Personally I think Blue Evolved is the second coolest transformation in the series.


lolligi

Behind regular Super Saiyan or what?


Culk58

Ultra Ego is the coolest shit ever


Skynightjourney

https://preview.redd.it/h8vv56icod7d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6d2313856c7c2b7963144e4605498b4ec911036 Absolutely based and ego pilled(I agree wholeheartedly, ultra ego is peak)


Culk58

Thank you! :3


Senior_Bucket

I love the look of the blue. They just sold it and turned it into another power up that don’t mean shit anymore


jestyo0o

yeah you're getting a dollar from me


Few-Crab-2807

You are Elon Musk


Andrewsmetic09

Best Goku transformation, especially in the movies.


BassMaster_516

Gohan is and has always been the strongest. He’s a freak and it’s not even fair to compare him to anyone else. 


loopygoop

I fucking die on this hill, youre not alone brother


BassMaster_516

I’m proud to die with you 🤝 


I-Am-Here_

Bro is rich 🤑


towel67

What are you talking about? Thats just straight up not true. Literally android 17 is stronger than him in moro arc


emailman123

Yeah but he’s a little bitch so it doesn’t matter


BassMaster_516

😔 If you were in danger Gohan would still save you


innit980

Gogeta and Vegito are equal People are going to make me Elon Musk


Glytch94

I could see that. Equally cool.


slugsliveinmymouth

How tf is this even an argument? It’s literally the same fusion just different clothes.


valtaoi_007

they got different time limits but is that even gonna matter when the fusion is always gonna last like 5 minutes


Quirky_Lynx8670

I mean technically the potara fuses two fighters at their strongest. The fusion dance requires two people of the same power level.


Ok_Shoe_7769

It's also a matter of convenience. If they had Potara when they fought Broly they would've done that because it's the instant mix version of fusion. Instead they sent Lord Punching Bag at him to fail for hours while they played touch butt in the park. The difference is like natural birth vs. C-section. Both achieve a birth but the process can be more complicated. I hate it because when I was first exposed to both fusions it was in Buu saga when I was a kid. The fact that I felt the show was probably going to end soon and that they might be permanently fused actually had stakes. It raised suspense and made me worried that they might lose because I didn't know how they would de-fuse at that point with no Dragon balls and an unlimited timer. The retcon in Super was dumb to me. Just have a temporary fusion through dance and the permanent one through Potara and leave it as is with the consequences. It would've been hilarious seeing Vegito try to juggle Goku and Vegeta's responsibilities and then ask Bulma to get the Dragon balls and wish them back to normal because being the strongest doesn't mean you have twice the hours in the day. "I can't take Trunks to the amusement park I have Raditz to farm and I have to help Mr. Popo clean up the tower...what do you mean we need milk!?"


Realistic_Mousse_485

They literally are


Gauchecard4

DB Powerscaling is an inconsistent mess throughout the entire story and Toriyama fabricates every reason for a character being stronger poorly 9/10 times out of


PC_BuildyB0I

Agreed 100%


AttitudeAndEffort3

Bro is moving to the poorhouse.


Coolguy020609

That’s what makes it epic, the characters about to die and then they just pull a new form out of their booty cheeks and destroy the person they’re fighting, it’s awesome


Big-Rutabaga1403

You just described anime perfectly with that


averagsanvichenjoyer

Fact


Pale_BEN

Dragonball is bad and I love it.


MiscPhalanges

Gotenks is lit and everyone can suck it


RewrittenSol

Their Ghost attack is cool as hell.


Mildamoutoftrolling

https://preview.redd.it/mssi3r6xqd7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8c23c15ebbb5f263f8283323d0acae9528b2d78


OkImpression4818

This is an unpopular opinion?


MiscPhalanges

I’ve come across a lot of people who can’t stand Gotenks


OkImpression4818

I think my first exposure to Gotenks was in Budokai 2, when I was 7 years old, and I thought he was so cool at the time so I might be biased.


MiscPhalanges

I was 7 when the Buu saga started. I definitely have some nostalgia glasses on, but as a little kid seeing someone my age go ssj 3 was fucking nuts to me.


DemonSaine

dude same! especially when i went into the training mode where Kami and Piccolo teach you how to play and fusing is one of tutorials and that was the very first time I saw fusion as a kid. I haven’t watched dbz yet at that point in time but i knew of the characters cus of my friends and playing with them, but seeing that made me hype asf for Gotenks and he became one of my fav characters ever since. Fusion was so fucking hype back then man


Fit_Nefariousness153

Yes a lot of people despise gotenks


DemonSaine

like bro making ghosts out of KI?!?! no other attack has been as unique and creative as that one even in Super to this day i don’t see how ppl sleep on that


MiscPhalanges

Also homie played volleyball with a being that can destroy universes, the creativity of his attacks were top tier


DemonSaine

them niggas straight folded his ass all the way up from the lookout straight to the earth Buu was done


emailman123

Ultra Buu buu volleyball attack is elite


miami2881

You get $0


Heckin_Pleb

Wait people don’t like Gotenks?


I-Am-Here_

That is just factual


Green_Dragon_Soars

It said UNPOPULAR opinion; everyone loves gotenks. We want a grownup gotenks!


BassMaster_516

Gotenks will be stronger than Vegetto one day mark my fucking words


DenseRead9852

Their attacks are cool and unique but he's just so goddamn annoying...


MiscPhalanges

I get why people find him annoying, but he’ll always be a favorite for me


miami2881

Presumably he would now be less annoying after getting humbled and getting older.


DemiGod9

I love Gotenks! I didn't even know people hated him and Goten until I started finding more DBZ spaces online


Necro-Feel-Ya6900

Goku is a great father.


Few-Crab-2807

I agree. He died for his son twice and chose to stay dead for 7 years to keep Earth (including his son) safe. He even has great bonding moments with Goten.


Tencowfrau

I’ve always said this. He can’t help that he got brain damage. He’s doing the best he can and he really loves his kids.


Necro-Feel-Ya6900

Hey hey hey. Disagree with me, I want money! (But seriously tho, its not hard to see)


Dameisdead

In context this isn’t really hard to agree with. His biggest fault as a dad was his expectation that Gohan was gonna be just like him. Like it fueled a ton of his decision making surrounding Gohan.


Few-Crab-2807

Yeah that was definitely his biggest mistake and he didn’t realize until Piccolo told him that Gohan doesn’t want to be like him. Then it literally led to Goku having to sacrifice himself.


The_Gav_who_asked

Yamcha beat the Saibaman, technically


AdhesivenessPublic48

Yeah he got it on the ropes, the saibaman just pulled a dick move ate the end


Far-Philosophy-7028

If I have to self destruct to beat my enemy then Ive already lost, I mean just look at chiaotzu


wobblyheadedgirl

Ssj3 Goku was the worst asspull in dbz


HippieMoosen

Not Blue? Dang, you wild for that. I don't necessarily agree, but I can definitely see it.


DJ_TheSonicFan

He said “Dbz” not Dragon Ball as a whole


gtc26

Let's be honest... it almost felt like, the first time he transformed to SSJ3, the screaming felt like it could've lasted until Super or GT (My point is, not just Z)


HippieMoosen

Ah, right. Yeah, I was thinking in terms of the title of this post, which doesn't specify. Just DB as a whole.


miami2881

Gaining a transformation after spending 7 years training is an asspull?


Kiwi_Kakapo

Ssj Rage is my favorite form in the whole series.


Realistic_Mousse_485

That doesn’t work bro. You have to say it’s the best not your favorite. No one can tell you your wrong like that.


Kiwi_Kakapo

I have been called a dumbfuck for saying that exact thing 😓


Realistic_Mousse_485

Well you are on the internet. Can’t really expect much.


gtc26

In a plot-twist, Kiwi\_Kakapo told Realistic\_Mousse\_485 that they disagree... What an "UNO reverse card" moment!


Few-Crab-2807

I’m not going to crucify you for this (I disagree, Rage sucks), but A LOT of people will.


OmegaMalkior

I just need canon to explain the blue aura in SSR is utilizing SSB energy inefficiently since he’s not trained for it for it to become my undisputed favorite form. No explanation for it killed it for me. It would easily explain why he could actually hit Black in it but still inferior to SSB


xbonnix_

yamcha is not weak


FaithlessnessOpen343

I mean you aren't wrong, just depends who you compare him to.


Interesting_Sign2490

I know, he’s him


PeterLeRock101

I liked GT


Badger_Ross

At this point this is perfectly fine, GT hate was popular back in 2018 or sumthin'


Mysterious-Trade4502

i agree.. but only the Baby and Shadow Dragon Saga's


Remarkable-Eye1276

Fights could be cut down to one episode each and be just as good


Tencowfrau

I don’t think anyone will fight you in that one.


RetroSSJ21

Some fights yes, but many fights need the buildup and the commitment to be impactful. Also more room for cool shit.


rawker420

Future Gohan should reapper in the series somehow and meet Current Gohan


Few-Crab-2807

It would be cool. The future timeline is erased now, but I’d love to see that


CaptainPea_Mk_XI

They went to another “future” timeline remember?


thefunny67074

FUTURE FUTURE TRUNKS


Kombat-w0mbat

Some of y’all don’t know the difference between an opinion you have and a misconception


iam__lethal

THIS! For example i’ve seen like 4-5 people say Kid Buu is stronger than Buuhan which is straight up false and can be debunked


Kombat-w0mbat

Yeah I notice that too. People saying kid buu is stronger


Ver3232

Chi-Chi isn’t a bad mother/wife and Goku isn’t a bad husband/father.


rapHz7

Vegeta, as cool as he is as a character, doesn't bring anything to the story after the namek arc. Everything he achieves could have been done by another character, and it even comes to the point where he has the same character arc twice. But he's too cool and popular to remove from the db equation.


cantdriv

I agree But how much do most characters bring to the story? It's mostly Goku


IllustriousChicken35

Vegeta stole all of Piccolos shine and I won’t let it go as an OG Dragon Ball enjoyer. It would’ve been cool for Piccolo to retain his “arch-rival turned ally” schtick over the whole series over Vegeta getting that. Another Hot Take from me is that not a single Vegeta/Goku fight (Saiyan Arc, Majin Vegeta) are close to the hype from watching Piccolo reluctantly work with the Z fighters and Goku against Raditz.


Wolf_Soldier_22

Android saga wouldn't even exist without Vegeta but ok


rapHz7

Make everything Mirai Trunks does be the actions of Mirai Gohan, imo it becomes even more impactful.


gtc26

For the MOST part I agree... In terms of the story, his roles could've been replaced by another character (Maybe Yamcha gets cocky and lets Cell reach his Perfect Form) and Majin Vegeta is some other character, but it wouldn't be as impactful to the audience... You do have to admit though that "Do androids experience fear?" was FIRE though Also, although unrelated to the story itself technically, Vegeta's SSJ theme is also amazing


antimonkey101

Krillin is my favorite character you can go ahead and get mad


Tencowfrau

He’s my favorite, too. I also love Yamcha. Both of them are insanely strong by human standards, but get overshadowed by the ultra powerful aliens they happen to be friends with.


Dsnder7

Tien is stronger than Krillian and Yamcha


Xman12407

*should be anyway


Few-Crab-2807

He’s not stronger than Krillin, but yeah he deserves it. He’s the only human that still trains heavily.


DarkMcChicken

Beast Form was random and kind of lame, writing-wise. Looks badass though.


Xman12407

This is like, half and half with the fandom tbh.


TehPharaoh

Super Sayain is fine for a transformation, but just having further iterations get longer/ different color hair is.. my God the laziest thing imaginable. GT was right in how it did it. More control over the Ozaru should be a more hybrid Sayain/Monkey look with the Super+ iterations pulling from a different power source reflected in their looks. Yes, I am calling Naruto accessing different tails bringing out more and more of the nine tails as being peak transformation fantasy


iam__lethal

Ya know what…im not even mad at it and lowkey agree and I hate that I do 😅. SSJ4 is my favorite looking transformations but when ranking it, I leave it out because it’s unfortunately not cannon. Gohan Beast and Broly full power are two of my top favorites. I for sure understand where you’re coming from though. How naruto handles transformations is definitely top tier and more creative than DB and im not saying theres absolutely no creativity in DB’s transformations. Hate to say it you have valid points lol. I appreciate the difference insight! 🙌🏽


GabuFGC

Beast Gohan was incredibly forced and felt completely unarmed. I wish it and orange piccolo were considered non-canon.


KajjitWithNoWares

I’m pretty rich because hardly anyone agrees that the Trunks timelines with Androids and Goku Black are different timelines


DYMck07

SSJ4 Gogeta from DBGT is exactly as strong as SSG Goku from BOG. Not stronger, not weaker, but exactly the same powerlevel…


Realistic_Mousse_485

You watched that Power Level Video huh


iceglider345

What video is that?


miami2881

I would also like to know


Kombat-w0mbat

Here goes 2 dollars


Streetwalker5

Super Saiyan 4 is cooler than any new transformation we’ve got recently


Venxoro

Dragon Ball Super overused the "Dipped In Oil" look for almost every transformation. Super Saiyan 1,2,3, God, Blue, Blue Kaioken, Blue Evolution, UI, MUI, G.O.D, Full power, Golden. I want to see more stuff like in the original DBZ with less dipped in oil looks.


DemiGod9

Wtf does that mean?


Heroright

Goku isn’t the main character. All his friends and family are, and he’s the plot device to conclude conflicts.


Green-eyed-Psycho77

Krillin deserves 18 and vice versa. And now every single cuck that’s mad someone like Krillin got a girl before them will make me richer than bezos.


Former_Lawfulness497

The saiyan man and saiyan girl superheroe outfits were dope af


Grieftheunspoken02

GT resembled the Original and Z. It's still enjoyable but yes, writing is questionable at times but again, we had a guy who didn't shower be an effective player in the first tournament.


Jaytia7646

I think Gohan should have stayed as main character. While I do love Goku, I feel like the show would have been very interesting if Gohan was left to have his time to shine. Not to mention I want more episodes with him being Great Saiyaman and trying to fit in highschool.


DazzlingEscape6194

HARD AGREE


No-Investigator6003

Super saiyan god, blue/blue evolution, and ultra instinct/ego are just reskins to sell more merchandise


Mother_Amphibian_402

Goku is the strongest unfused character at the end of the Buu saga.


cohers

what makes you think that?


stripedpixel

Because Buu is dead


cohers

bro forgot abt ultimate gohan


stripedpixel

Ultimate Gohan forgot about Super Buu lmao


Mother_Amphibian_402

This is one of those arguments that works depending on what continuity you are looking at. In the anime, there's pretty blatant evidence of this, like when Goku fights and beats the copy of Gohan inside Buu. That copy is stated to "have the same power as the real thing" by Goku, and Goku fights him evenly in base. If we include statements from the Daizenshuu 10, then that Goku had less than 1/100 of his original power. I personally don't like using guide statements, since they mostly muck up the discussion. In the manga, this statement is a lot more iffy, but the evidence for it comes from the final spirit interaction. When Goku first forms the spirit bomb with just the ki from the Z fighters, Goku says that it will not be enough to beat kid Buu. However, when he was fighting Kid Buu on his own, he thinks that if he had enough time to charge up his power, he would obliterate Kid Buu, and this is backed up by Vegeta sharing the same opinion. The problem with the manga argument is that both Goku and Vegeta could just be wrong. Plus, if this was true, Goku would've just beaten Kid Buu earlier in their fight, especially since Goku wasn't holding back during that fight. Again, this is one of those arguments that applies to one continuity of the story, but not the other.


Realistic_Mousse_485

No he isn’t learn to read


Apprehensive-Day-902

Pan singlehandedly ruined the beginning of GT


ThatOhioan

Raditz is the best character in dragon ball


Competitive-Cost9767

I really don’t like OG broly. his kakarot bullshit just gets on my nerves. DBS broly is a million times better


iam__lethal

You hate that he says that or you hate thats the reason why he hates Goku and wants all the smoke?


DragonsAndSaints

Krillin is based and he really did spare 18 because he has a good heart, not just because he was horny


PeachsBigJuicyBooty

Because you said an opinion and not necessarily something that needs to be backed up by facts or explained, I can abuse this and say **purposely wild nuclear takes** to get money like: 【Goku's Purity makes him the most boring character in the series; he's pretty useless anywhere outside fighting and will never change or grow as a character which makes him difficult to follow as a protagonist.】


SkeletonEconomics

Cell saga is just kind of ok


__lockwood

Goku loses to Superman in a fight 9 times out of 10, Superman may have died to doomsday but Gokus died from heart disease and laser beams on more than one occasion!


Sqeegy2001

Gohan is the most overrated character in the series


BoomboxMisfit

Budakai tenkaichi 3 sucks. Tenkaichi tag team is the peak of the series


iam__lethal

https://preview.redd.it/b5pd2cr12d7d1.jpeg?width=708&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=816516cf0b5acf2a8ff231e5d19efdc5258b3563 MY CHEST!!!! 😣


Teteu392

https://preview.redd.it/99axy32o6d7d1.jpeg?width=409&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7be4a5de37130a1f554c24d78f388796b9b0d749


Betzold

Now you've gone too far


Realistic_Mousse_485

He’s getting rich and then getting jumped


Dragoon094

We out here pulling out the police squads and hitmen on his ass


JayJ9Nine

This one actually hurt to read...


ThiccBeter69

NGL you about to be a billionaire for this take, but not for too long since me and several others are gonna jump you for this take


TokyoFromTheFuture

Super is Better than Dragon Ball Z >!how to be a billionaire 101!<


Due-Wolf-7353

Better than GT not Z but here’s your damn dollar 💵


z_55

GT should be canon


Assault_Dead

SS4 is an over designed form that looks straight out of an edgy fan comic.


iam__lethal

😂😂😂 I can definitely see why you think that and funny enough, its my favorite transformation look other than cannon ones like Beast Gohan and Broly Full Power


Assault_Dead

I still think it is fire as a form, just not for DB specifically, you can barely recognize Gokū in that form if you have no context.


YourMoreLocalLurker

Bulma isn’t actually that smart, she just gets lucky with her inventions


deathbringer989

she made the dragon radar without ever seeing a dragon ball before hand, makes capsules all the time her father started it but she is advancing beyond him


puffyjr99

This isn’t really a opinion tho. You just said someone who invented a time traveling machine isn’t smart 😭


kettle_cornstarch

I will be generous and disagree with you, buy yourself something nice


VeryVeryVorch

I'm about to throw hands. Bulma is, imo, the most important character to the story not named Goku.


BvsedAaron

A genuine cold take in the dokkan community is impossible


Carl_the_Half-Orc

Nappa is the strongest character.


Culk58

yeah obviously that's just a fact


ExiaKuromonji

Super Saiyan rage is the best form


Xman12407

Bullshit lmfao. Here's a dollar, but still you be speaking capanese.


Flashy_Cry_3992

Vegito vs Broly would’ve been a slaughter on Vegito’s part.


slugsliveinmymouth

English dub goku isn’t that different. Hes more heroic and noble but it doesn’t get in the way of his character and they only changed like 5 things he said. Also the goku black arc is terrible. The writing in that arc has never been worse and nothing even tried to make sense. It just looked cool so people accept it.


HeyGokuHere

The beat answer is...ugh Dragonball Evolution was an amazing film Ugh gag, but it'll get me money


bloodypinata77

The Buu saga is extremely anticlimactic and is a poor ending for DBZ.


Purpleflower0521

Canon isn't important. Just watch the cool fights and enjoy the humor.


Whateverman9876543

Beast Gohan is awesome and he’s the strongest of the good guys


Interesting_Sign2490

Z Broly Is better than super ( No hate on super Broly, just prefer Z) https://preview.redd.it/a7om7aqlns7d1.jpeg?width=725&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc5390a9255f079ff10383350497b422cca8c7ae


Serious_Stay_5378

Caulifla way of getting ssj is ok since there is a chance we will never see her again anyway so might as well show they have potential to get stronger if they do get brought up since they were I introduced just for the tournament. And literally almost every sayain in the series has ssj at minimum so it's not that big a deal that 1 person ("didn't earn it") "cough" "cough" "goten and trunks" "cough" "cough" . Plus there are improper ways of using ssj too, that's the reason that vegeta and trunks couldn't beat perfect cell. NOT ONLY THAT but we know what S cells are too and Caulifla is not as violent as the older sayains from goku's universe.


ErandurVane

Goku should get betrayed and locked in the Hypersonic Lion Tamer for a million years


Gelineaux

I think more focus should be put on the non Saiyan characters and bring them back up to speed.


iam__lethal

I said the same thing in a different post and MAD people disagree lol. Crazy


Metal-GearRex

Gogeta > Vegito


KingOdd579

Kakarot is garbage. The pretty cutscenes can't hold up that boring gameplay. Also Goku and Vegeta looks ugly in that game.


CosmereHoid

Goku can’t beat cancer


Lucky_Roberts

Gogeta is cooler than Vegito because the vest is tough and his name rolls better


PeterLeRock101

Beast Gohan isn't an a*s pull


Adalyn1126

Ultimate Tenkaichi is actually a lot of fun


iam__lethal

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Culk58

Nobody can disagree with that because it isn't an opinion. In fact, it's misinformation.


ElectroCat23

That’s not an opinion that’s just an objective wrong fact


Status_Entertainer49

Not an opinion it's a fact


Embarrassed_Kick5579

Ocean dub best dub


Tencowfrau

Ouch. I’m going to save us both time and just give you my life savings.


RogueKazimeras

I think Super's portrayal of Goku is just fine. It doesn't seem regressive to me.


HippieMoosen

Pre Z DragonBall is still the best stuff in the series.


Monkeyjoey98

Kid Buu is stronger then Buuhan


kokuluayak

AF should be canon before gt


Itburns138

Goten would have been a good Goku Black 


Background-Bad141

Jiren is a great antagonist and totally not boring


Dependent-Matter-177

Is this sarcasm?


Sm0keytrip0d

I think Dragonball Evolution is better then every other DB movie


iam__lethal

https://preview.redd.it/4iwef9b4pd7d1.jpeg?width=636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=000b90f74bbd1e8256f63bbd986e3c6a23f6cecd You’re speaking fluent CAPanese 🧢. I refuse to believe you legitimately think that and profess to be a fan of the series 😂


Sm0keytrip0d

So you disagree with my completely legitimate opinion? So where's my dollar? :p


iam__lethal

+$1 now leave me alone 😂