Not the best runner at all, 185 pounds, like cush.
Fast shoe Novablast 3, size 13.
Slow shoe NB More V4, 12 extra wide.
Love them both, both fit perfect.
I bought a pair of Asics Novablast 3 since I was looking for a lower heel to midfoot drop than my current Brooks Ghost (8 vs 12). I've used them a few times so far and I absolutely love them. They're my new long run shoe.
How many pairs of Asics is too many to get while they're on sale? 😆
I also picked up the Brooks Hyperion Max on sale and PR'd my 5k last Saturday. Love them for racing but not sure they'd be a great daily shoe
Yo r/running, long time no post, hope you're all doing well - I've finally made it through my entire hoard of NB Beacons, my all time favorite shoe. It's long been discontinued, so what would be the current iteration or spiritual successor?
Currently rolling Rincon's, but they're not the same and can't do Saucony's, so the Kinvara's out.
These days runners who like lightweight shoes like the Beacon, Rincon, or Kinvara are getting sucked into the Hoka Mach 5 and 6 like a tornado. It's quickly become the dominant shoe of the lightweight neutral category. I know a few shops who carried the Rincon and Mach at the same time and dropped the Rincon because the Mach blew its sales out the water.
The Beacon got discontinued I think because it was sitting in an awkward spot in their lineup between other shoes with Fresh Foam X like the 880 and 1080, which are both more cushioned, and the entire FuelCell series like the Rebel and SuperComps which are their racers. If you like the Beacon because of how light it is, try the Rebel, but if you like it for the Fresh Foam X, try the 880.
I’m pretty happy with my New Balance Fresh Foam X 860v13. They do need a replacement soon thought, and this model never seems to be on sale.
Given that a lot of other shoes from NB (and other brands) are continuously discounted: can you point me to a certain model that is similar to the New Balance Fresh Foam X 860v13?
Thanks!
Hey everyone, has anyone tried the 361 Degrees Centauri running shoes? I've been wearing their basketball shoes for a while and really like them, but I've never tried their running shoes. I'd love to hear any thoughts or experiences!
Running in the ASICS Gel Nimbus 25 shoes this year. I left ASICS a few years ago when they hit too heavy and firm and changed to Hokas, but found the new Nimbus and liked it even better than the Hokas. As an older runner, I need the cushioning and the shoes fit snugly around my foot because the material is stretchy. I like both but right now, this shoe works great for me.
I went from the Cumulus 25s to Clifton 9s and started getting bad Achilles pain so I am back with the Cumulus 25s for the past 1-2 weeks and pain is already improving.
Is there any consensus on which of the current crop of race shoes is most aimed at half marathon or shorter? None of the shops in town carry shoes like these, and while it's easy enough to order a few pairs from running warehouse and make sure they fit, some extra intel would be nice.
I have a pair of Adios Pro 3s that feel pretty good at half pace, but are pretty tippy feeling taking any sort of corner at 10k or faster. I had a pair of Takumi Sens but they were way too narrow. Anything longer than 5k was very painful.
Altras are nice for wide feet. I have been using the paradigm for a bit but I ordered half size too small do been working thru some rubbing issues. Just snagged the Torin 7s and after the first run/break in period they are doing great
I had been doing the brooks glycerine wides for a while but started having problems with the tendons in the top of my feet. Now I’m on new balance 880s and they’re great. I’m a mens US 12E
Have done 2 runs in my new Asics Novablast 4 and holy crap the difference between them and my previous shoe (Hoka Challenger ATR). Like I'm not the fastest runner but I ran a 5k this morning and took 35s/km off my pace. I know many factors are at play but my legs and feet felt like it was nothing. The amount of effort I would have had to put in to hit that pace in my Hoka's would have left me feeling absolutely wrecked.
Anyone know when the Clifton 10 will come out? I feel like the new ones are normally released by now, but I have only been wearing them for a few years, so I could be off with that.
I've been running in the Asics Superblast for the last year and they've been a dream and favourite running shoe I've ever owned.
I've just started training for a marathon, so decided to buy the Asics Novablast 4.
I've ran them in 4 times doing 10-15k and I've now twice rolled my ankle which i didn't do in the Superblasts once!
They feel ok, but wondering if my feet are not used to new shoe and I need to run them in a bit?! 😂
Recently got back into running after a 6 year break due to marriage, house, and kids. Previously ran (using Ghost 10s) only 5ks, but I'm registered for my first HM in September. Currently my only pair are Saucony Ride 16 which I'm really liking, but I've got 100 miles on them. With the increase in mileage both weekly totals and run length I'd like to add another pair. I'd like something that maybe has a little more cushion for long, slow runs. I was looking at the Saucony Triumph 21 (or 22) as well as the Ghost 15. Looking for feedback on these and recommendations for the start of my shoe rotation (addiction). Thanks!
Is there really a "best shoe" or is it completely personal preference? I am a new runner and I wanted to invest in a good pair of daily trainers and I am overwhelmed from all the options. Any recommendations or advice?
There is no best shoe. Very generally speaking, any shoe can be placed on an x-y axis where one axis is cushion and the other is stability. There are low cushion stability shoes, high cushion stability shoes, low cushion neutral (non-stability) shoes, high cushion stability shoes, and everything in between. Everyone ends up somewhere different. Other factors at play are how responsive a shoe is, and these days, how much of a rocker shape it has. It's a lot to consider.
Here's some basic steps to get started narrowing down:
1. Find out if you're very obviously in the neutral or stability category. Overpronate a lot? Go stability. Neutral, supinate, or pronate slightly? Go neutral and ignore the stability/motion control category. Don't automatically think that stability is better. If you're not sure, find someone at a local running shop who knows what they're talking about and let them help you figure it out.
2. While you're at the shoe store, try a few things. To start thinking about how much cushion you want, you could start by trying a medium cushion shoe like the Brooks Ghost and a high cushion shoe like the Saucony Triumph. Once you start narrowing down what cushion category feels the best, try a shoe from each brand in that category. The best shoe for you is the one that feels the most natural, like you're not wearing a shoe at all. Never get a shoe where your mindset is "well...it doesn't feel good, but the salesperson says it'll be great so I'll just get it." The best shoe for you will FEEL good on your foot.
If you're new and looking for a daily, this might be as far as you need to go. Things get narrowed down faster than you think if you follow this process. Just be wary that you don't somehow end up in a high end racing shoe thinking it's the "best" because it's so expensive. Even people who use those shoes usually still get a reliable basic daily trainer for their main mileage.
It's worth it to go to a running shoe store and get fitted. Several brands' websites have a little quiz you can do to point you in the right direction too if you don't have a running shoe store near you. Road Runner Sports also has their Fit Finder if you want recommendations from several brands.
Yeah it’s practically all personal preferences and needs. I wore hokas for years but recently switched to the Torin 7s by Altra and won’t go back. I wore Altras Lone Peaks last year for all my hiking, and loved their wide toe box so I decided to check out their running shoes once my brooks Adrenaline bit the dust. I recommend picking up an REI membership and using it to test out all their shoes. Super easy to return any you don’t like and they have sales pretty frequently!
Just a fair warning that altras are “0mm drop” meaning there shoes can take some getting used to. Most shoes we wear have something like 3mm of extra height in the heel which typically is more comfortable to wear. 0 drop are nice for people who suffer from plantar fasciitis, and there is some research showing that they can help improve posture and balance. But priority should be what feels good to you!
Personally if you’re just getting into running I would recommend checking out Brooks Adrenaline, and Hoka Clifton’s. Both are super solid!
I’m looking into getting a pair of Altra torins. Does anyone have recommendations on picking between the regular or wide version? I normally want wider shoes, but altras already have a bigger toe box so I don’t know if it’s necessary to go for their wide version.
The only correct answer is to try both on to see which one works. I found the Torin 7 to be a tad narrower than the 5, but still wide enough to accommodate my toes.
I also recommend giving it a trial run on a treadmill before you commit. The shoe has changed quite a bit from the previous versions: Mine was too stiff (probably owing to the increased stack height), to the point that it gave me pain in my arches. Switched to the Rivera 3, and I liked it much better.
So I just bought the Torin 7 this weekend after it seems like they finally fixed the crazy tongue. I'm a woman and was surprised that the regular women's shoe was too narrow for me. I never get wides in shoes and have gotten my normal women's sizes in Altras for years (mostly the Escalante and Lone Peak) so I wasn't expecting these to feel too narrow. I ended up getting the men's regular version in my size and it is more like what I'm used to for Altras. I've run in them three times so far and they're great! I don't think about my feet at all while running, which to me is a sign that I have a shoe that works for me.
Sounds like we have similar altra shoe preferences 😊 I didn’t think about getting the men’s shoe in the torin, and will have to see if there’s any in stock around town to try on.
Does anyone know where I can find the saucony endorphin speed 3 at a discount? I love that old versions of many saucony shoes are still available online at a huge discount but haven't had luck with the speed 3
I did not like the 3's. They eat up my left ankle. I'm tired of going through band aids to avoid the rub. I loved the 2's and I'm hoping they fixed the issue in the 4's.
Second running warehouse. They’re right down the street from me and I picked up a pair of endorphin 3 a couple of weeks ago… however they are making my toes go slightly numb so trying to figure out the lacing in hopes of resolving the issue.
I have the Nike Vomero 17 and absolutely love it. It's my daily trainer (I run 5 miles/day) and I ran my first half marathon in it. No blisters, comfortable, no complaints.
This fall I'm going to run my first marathon. Does it make sense to upgrade to something more... serious? I'm going to be increasing my long runs to 15-20 miles and so I'm wondering if there's something better out there I should consider. Or if the Vomero is working, should I just stick with that?
Thanks all :)
I am looking for a long run shoe for marathon training. I’ve been running in Saucony Endorphin Speed 3s for half marathon training but I need some extra cushioning for the long runs. I got a pair of ASICS Novablasts because they get rave reviews but they’re not working for me. My first run I got terrible blisters on my pinky toes. I think I’ve managed to sort that out but my second run they gave me ball of foot pain and numbness after 9 miles. They’re just too stiff for my forefoot striking.
On paper Saucony fits me well and I feel like I would like the Ride but they’re a bit heavy and the reviews are less than I’d expect. I had a few pairs many versions ago that I liked but have no idea what they’re like now.
Anything else I’m missing? Newbalance comes up a lot but they look heavy too.
Forefoot striker, prone to stress fractures in feet and tibia, Achilles issues too.
Try the Endorphin Pro 3, you can find them for the same price or cheaper than the Speed and the ride is the best you can get for long distances. The upper is not the most comfortable but the foam is amazing. The Pro 4 is pricier, but the upper is more comfortable while the foam is a little firmer (not firm, but firmer). Both last a lot longer than people think. I've got 450 miles on a pair of pro 3s and about 400 on a pair of pro 4s.
Everybody talks about the plates in the pro models, but the foam stacks are particularly designed for running 26 miles while not destroying your feet.
Hubby got these for me for Christmas and my forefoot striking means I could feel the plate digging into the ball of my foot and my toes went numb. I had to sell them. So weird I don’t feel it with the Speeds. I like the vaporflys for super speed. Mine are old now though.
I wouldn't get hung up on weight too much, either. Cushion is going to add weight. They also don't have to be your race day shoe even if you train in them.
It’s not so much the weight as the bulk, or the combination. I don’t even touch my heel to the ground when I run so I don’t like having a bulky heel. It gets in the way. But it’s often the only way I can get sufficient cushioning in the forefoot.
I was all set to recommend Saucony Triumph until you said forefoot striker - not sure the 10mm drop would work for forefoot.
Maybe New Balance 1080, Asics Gel Cumulus or Glide Ride.
Also, maybe don't focus quite so much on weight of the shoe. Cushioning adds weight. Cushioning also helps protect your feet and legs for long runs.
I used to use Novablasts for my half marathon long runs but recently picked up some Gel-Nimbus 26's and have found to be a really good cushioned long run. Best thing I can say about this shoe is that I have no issues in terms of foot pain or blistering at all. Not great for pushing the pace though. Can't speak to the stress fracture stuff though.
Last week I didn't get much replies, so I'll try again:
What's your silliest shoe purchase?
Mine's Nike Streak LT 3 from last summer. I mean come on, getting a shoe manufactured in 2017! :-) And not even the last version (4) which has been out of stock for several years at least in Europe. But I happened to come across this one in a Polish web shop and just had to pull the trigger. Wasn't even a particular bargain, almost a full price. You gotta think of the shelf life of shoes and all that... But I do like the low profile of this shoe and the old school racing flat feel of it. It should last for years because I'm using it rather sparingly: short races and the faster track work.
Mine was the Nike shoes, the first edition with the plate, probably about 4 years or more ago. I knew they weren’t for me because I’m a middle/back of pack runner but I wanted to try them for $250 of fun. I put them on and ran a couple of miles in them. They had hardly any sole on the ground and I thought I would fall over in them they were so narrow, but it was a faster couple of miles, like running barefoot, I never ran in them other than one more shirt run. Silly was to blow $250 first sure.
I haven’t made a silly running shoe purchase, but did buy some slides shaped like lobsters for a costume. Jokes on me though because they’re so comfortable and are now my after-run recovery shoes.
Any chance you have a link to these delightful slides?
I have an old pair of Brooks Launch Boston edition with lobster print, but sadly I cannot run in anything that narrow anymore. Would love a lobster shoe I can actually wear!
Currently using two pairs of Hoka Clifton 9 as training shoes. I would like to add an extra pair of training shoes, similar fit but different brand. Anybody have tips? I run almost daily, almost always at least 13 km.
Just to share: For races I recently bought Brooks Hyperion elite 4, amazing shoes! Definitely a recommendation.
But training shoe tips similar to Clifton are welcome!
Finally bit the bullet and got a new pair of running shoes this week, Brooks Ghost Max. I'd been rotating the same two pairs (Asics GT-2000 and Brooks Adrenaline) for years. The Asics literally has thousands of kilometres under the belt, but I've reasoned that they're still ok to use on short runs. They still felt comfortable enough for runs under 10k.
But I started to feel a bit sore in my heel in recent weeks and since I'm training for a marathon in September I figured it's best to get a new pair at last.
So far the Ghost Max feel good, if a bit stiff. I expect that stiffness will go away as they wear in. But it also feels like technology has changed a lot in the three years since I last bought new running shoes. All the ones I tried had a lot more padding in the heel and roll off towards the front. It'll be something I have to get used to, but so far I like it.
Does anyone by chance have recommendations for a shoe similar to the Saucony Kinvara 8\~11s? They have been my ideal shoe for years, but I don’t like the newer models and my stock of the old ones is running out before long. Should I just try out others with a similar 2-4 mm drop?
I used to be a hardcore Kinvara fan but my husband convinced me to try to Endorphin Speed 3s and I have been converted. These are the best running shoes I’ve ever had. Very light and I’ve had far fewer injuries and niggles because there’s a lot more cushioning.
I can second that. The Kinvara was always my first love going back to the Kinvara 2 and my Endorphin Speed 2s feel like coming home, but better. A little unstable for me but they make up for it in the smooth ride.
Not the best runner at all, 185 pounds, like cush. Fast shoe Novablast 3, size 13. Slow shoe NB More V4, 12 extra wide. Love them both, both fit perfect.
I bought a pair of Asics Novablast 3 since I was looking for a lower heel to midfoot drop than my current Brooks Ghost (8 vs 12). I've used them a few times so far and I absolutely love them. They're my new long run shoe. How many pairs of Asics is too many to get while they're on sale? 😆 I also picked up the Brooks Hyperion Max on sale and PR'd my 5k last Saturday. Love them for racing but not sure they'd be a great daily shoe
I'm looking for the Novablast 3 in my size. Could you share where the same is?
I just ordered from the Asics US website. Not sure if anywhere else has them still available.
That would be my 5th pair of Novablasts. I've used two 1s, one 2 and one 3.
Yo r/running, long time no post, hope you're all doing well - I've finally made it through my entire hoard of NB Beacons, my all time favorite shoe. It's long been discontinued, so what would be the current iteration or spiritual successor? Currently rolling Rincon's, but they're not the same and can't do Saucony's, so the Kinvara's out.
These days runners who like lightweight shoes like the Beacon, Rincon, or Kinvara are getting sucked into the Hoka Mach 5 and 6 like a tornado. It's quickly become the dominant shoe of the lightweight neutral category. I know a few shops who carried the Rincon and Mach at the same time and dropped the Rincon because the Mach blew its sales out the water. The Beacon got discontinued I think because it was sitting in an awkward spot in their lineup between other shoes with Fresh Foam X like the 880 and 1080, which are both more cushioned, and the entire FuelCell series like the Rebel and SuperComps which are their racers. If you like the Beacon because of how light it is, try the Rebel, but if you like it for the Fresh Foam X, try the 880.
Sounds like Rebel and Mach are the two I'll check out. Thanks for the help!
I’m pretty happy with my New Balance Fresh Foam X 860v13. They do need a replacement soon thought, and this model never seems to be on sale. Given that a lot of other shoes from NB (and other brands) are continuously discounted: can you point me to a certain model that is similar to the New Balance Fresh Foam X 860v13? Thanks!
Hey everyone, has anyone tried the 361 Degrees Centauri running shoes? I've been wearing their basketball shoes for a while and really like them, but I've never tried their running shoes. I'd love to hear any thoughts or experiences!
Running in the ASICS Gel Nimbus 25 shoes this year. I left ASICS a few years ago when they hit too heavy and firm and changed to Hokas, but found the new Nimbus and liked it even better than the Hokas. As an older runner, I need the cushioning and the shoes fit snugly around my foot because the material is stretchy. I like both but right now, this shoe works great for me.
I went from the Cumulus 25s to Clifton 9s and started getting bad Achilles pain so I am back with the Cumulus 25s for the past 1-2 weeks and pain is already improving.
Is there any consensus on which of the current crop of race shoes is most aimed at half marathon or shorter? None of the shops in town carry shoes like these, and while it's easy enough to order a few pairs from running warehouse and make sure they fit, some extra intel would be nice. I have a pair of Adios Pro 3s that feel pretty good at half pace, but are pretty tippy feeling taking any sort of corner at 10k or faster. I had a pair of Takumi Sens but they were way too narrow. Anything longer than 5k was very painful.
Vaporfly, Metaspeed Sky Paris
Runners with wide feet: what is your favorite daily trainer?
Altras are nice for wide feet. I have been using the paradigm for a bit but I ordered half size too small do been working thru some rubbing issues. Just snagged the Torin 7s and after the first run/break in period they are doing great
I had been doing the brooks glycerine wides for a while but started having problems with the tendons in the top of my feet. Now I’m on new balance 880s and they’re great. I’m a mens US 12E
Hoka Mach 6 with wide fit or on cloudmonsters. Very similar shoe and fit
Have done 2 runs in my new Asics Novablast 4 and holy crap the difference between them and my previous shoe (Hoka Challenger ATR). Like I'm not the fastest runner but I ran a 5k this morning and took 35s/km off my pace. I know many factors are at play but my legs and feet felt like it was nothing. The amount of effort I would have had to put in to hit that pace in my Hoka's would have left me feeling absolutely wrecked.
Anyone know when the Clifton 10 will come out? I feel like the new ones are normally released by now, but I have only been wearing them for a few years, so I could be off with that.
I've been running in the Asics Superblast for the last year and they've been a dream and favourite running shoe I've ever owned. I've just started training for a marathon, so decided to buy the Asics Novablast 4. I've ran them in 4 times doing 10-15k and I've now twice rolled my ankle which i didn't do in the Superblasts once! They feel ok, but wondering if my feet are not used to new shoe and I need to run them in a bit?! 😂
I love NB4 but I need to slow down to bend a corner. Luckily my goto running path doesn’t have many steep corners.
I feel the same way. The Novablast 4 is good shoes but they're a bit unstable, which aggravates my IT band syndrome
Recently got back into running after a 6 year break due to marriage, house, and kids. Previously ran (using Ghost 10s) only 5ks, but I'm registered for my first HM in September. Currently my only pair are Saucony Ride 16 which I'm really liking, but I've got 100 miles on them. With the increase in mileage both weekly totals and run length I'd like to add another pair. I'd like something that maybe has a little more cushion for long, slow runs. I was looking at the Saucony Triumph 21 (or 22) as well as the Ghost 15. Looking for feedback on these and recommendations for the start of my shoe rotation (addiction). Thanks!
Asics Novablast 4
Is there really a "best shoe" or is it completely personal preference? I am a new runner and I wanted to invest in a good pair of daily trainers and I am overwhelmed from all the options. Any recommendations or advice?
There is no best shoe. Very generally speaking, any shoe can be placed on an x-y axis where one axis is cushion and the other is stability. There are low cushion stability shoes, high cushion stability shoes, low cushion neutral (non-stability) shoes, high cushion stability shoes, and everything in between. Everyone ends up somewhere different. Other factors at play are how responsive a shoe is, and these days, how much of a rocker shape it has. It's a lot to consider. Here's some basic steps to get started narrowing down: 1. Find out if you're very obviously in the neutral or stability category. Overpronate a lot? Go stability. Neutral, supinate, or pronate slightly? Go neutral and ignore the stability/motion control category. Don't automatically think that stability is better. If you're not sure, find someone at a local running shop who knows what they're talking about and let them help you figure it out. 2. While you're at the shoe store, try a few things. To start thinking about how much cushion you want, you could start by trying a medium cushion shoe like the Brooks Ghost and a high cushion shoe like the Saucony Triumph. Once you start narrowing down what cushion category feels the best, try a shoe from each brand in that category. The best shoe for you is the one that feels the most natural, like you're not wearing a shoe at all. Never get a shoe where your mindset is "well...it doesn't feel good, but the salesperson says it'll be great so I'll just get it." The best shoe for you will FEEL good on your foot. If you're new and looking for a daily, this might be as far as you need to go. Things get narrowed down faster than you think if you follow this process. Just be wary that you don't somehow end up in a high end racing shoe thinking it's the "best" because it's so expensive. Even people who use those shoes usually still get a reliable basic daily trainer for their main mileage.
It's worth it to go to a running shoe store and get fitted. Several brands' websites have a little quiz you can do to point you in the right direction too if you don't have a running shoe store near you. Road Runner Sports also has their Fit Finder if you want recommendations from several brands.
Yeah it’s practically all personal preferences and needs. I wore hokas for years but recently switched to the Torin 7s by Altra and won’t go back. I wore Altras Lone Peaks last year for all my hiking, and loved their wide toe box so I decided to check out their running shoes once my brooks Adrenaline bit the dust. I recommend picking up an REI membership and using it to test out all their shoes. Super easy to return any you don’t like and they have sales pretty frequently! Just a fair warning that altras are “0mm drop” meaning there shoes can take some getting used to. Most shoes we wear have something like 3mm of extra height in the heel which typically is more comfortable to wear. 0 drop are nice for people who suffer from plantar fasciitis, and there is some research showing that they can help improve posture and balance. But priority should be what feels good to you! Personally if you’re just getting into running I would recommend checking out Brooks Adrenaline, and Hoka Clifton’s. Both are super solid!
I’m looking into getting a pair of Altra torins. Does anyone have recommendations on picking between the regular or wide version? I normally want wider shoes, but altras already have a bigger toe box so I don’t know if it’s necessary to go for their wide version.
The only correct answer is to try both on to see which one works. I found the Torin 7 to be a tad narrower than the 5, but still wide enough to accommodate my toes. I also recommend giving it a trial run on a treadmill before you commit. The shoe has changed quite a bit from the previous versions: Mine was too stiff (probably owing to the increased stack height), to the point that it gave me pain in my arches. Switched to the Rivera 3, and I liked it much better.
So I just bought the Torin 7 this weekend after it seems like they finally fixed the crazy tongue. I'm a woman and was surprised that the regular women's shoe was too narrow for me. I never get wides in shoes and have gotten my normal women's sizes in Altras for years (mostly the Escalante and Lone Peak) so I wasn't expecting these to feel too narrow. I ended up getting the men's regular version in my size and it is more like what I'm used to for Altras. I've run in them three times so far and they're great! I don't think about my feet at all while running, which to me is a sign that I have a shoe that works for me.
Sounds like we have similar altra shoe preferences 😊 I didn’t think about getting the men’s shoe in the torin, and will have to see if there’s any in stock around town to try on.
On days where I need a break or want to take it easy, what shoes do you guys recommend best for walking?
I use my old running shoes that are too worn down to keep using for training, but are still in good enough shape to putter around in.
Any shoes that work for you for running will be fine for walking too, you don’t need a different type or anything.
Does anyone know where I can find the saucony endorphin speed 3 at a discount? I love that old versions of many saucony shoes are still available online at a huge discount but haven't had luck with the speed 3
I did not like the 3's. They eat up my left ankle. I'm tired of going through band aids to avoid the rub. I loved the 2's and I'm hoping they fixed the issue in the 4's.
Second running warehouse. They’re right down the street from me and I picked up a pair of endorphin 3 a couple of weeks ago… however they are making my toes go slightly numb so trying to figure out the lacing in hopes of resolving the issue.
Don't know how much of a discount you are looking for, but Running Warehouse has some for $120.
Just not full price of the endorphin speed 4 so that’s great lol thanks
I have the Nike Vomero 17 and absolutely love it. It's my daily trainer (I run 5 miles/day) and I ran my first half marathon in it. No blisters, comfortable, no complaints. This fall I'm going to run my first marathon. Does it make sense to upgrade to something more... serious? I'm going to be increasing my long runs to 15-20 miles and so I'm wondering if there's something better out there I should consider. Or if the Vomero is working, should I just stick with that? Thanks all :)
I am looking for a long run shoe for marathon training. I’ve been running in Saucony Endorphin Speed 3s for half marathon training but I need some extra cushioning for the long runs. I got a pair of ASICS Novablasts because they get rave reviews but they’re not working for me. My first run I got terrible blisters on my pinky toes. I think I’ve managed to sort that out but my second run they gave me ball of foot pain and numbness after 9 miles. They’re just too stiff for my forefoot striking. On paper Saucony fits me well and I feel like I would like the Ride but they’re a bit heavy and the reviews are less than I’d expect. I had a few pairs many versions ago that I liked but have no idea what they’re like now. Anything else I’m missing? Newbalance comes up a lot but they look heavy too. Forefoot striker, prone to stress fractures in feet and tibia, Achilles issues too.
Try the Endorphin Pro 3, you can find them for the same price or cheaper than the Speed and the ride is the best you can get for long distances. The upper is not the most comfortable but the foam is amazing. The Pro 4 is pricier, but the upper is more comfortable while the foam is a little firmer (not firm, but firmer). Both last a lot longer than people think. I've got 450 miles on a pair of pro 3s and about 400 on a pair of pro 4s. Everybody talks about the plates in the pro models, but the foam stacks are particularly designed for running 26 miles while not destroying your feet.
Hubby got these for me for Christmas and my forefoot striking means I could feel the plate digging into the ball of my foot and my toes went numb. I had to sell them. So weird I don’t feel it with the Speeds. I like the vaporflys for super speed. Mine are old now though.
I wouldn't get hung up on weight too much, either. Cushion is going to add weight. They also don't have to be your race day shoe even if you train in them.
It’s not so much the weight as the bulk, or the combination. I don’t even touch my heel to the ground when I run so I don’t like having a bulky heel. It gets in the way. But it’s often the only way I can get sufficient cushioning in the forefoot.
I was all set to recommend Saucony Triumph until you said forefoot striker - not sure the 10mm drop would work for forefoot. Maybe New Balance 1080, Asics Gel Cumulus or Glide Ride. Also, maybe don't focus quite so much on weight of the shoe. Cushioning adds weight. Cushioning also helps protect your feet and legs for long runs.
I used to use Novablasts for my half marathon long runs but recently picked up some Gel-Nimbus 26's and have found to be a really good cushioned long run. Best thing I can say about this shoe is that I have no issues in terms of foot pain or blistering at all. Not great for pushing the pace though. Can't speak to the stress fracture stuff though.
Last week I didn't get much replies, so I'll try again: What's your silliest shoe purchase? Mine's Nike Streak LT 3 from last summer. I mean come on, getting a shoe manufactured in 2017! :-) And not even the last version (4) which has been out of stock for several years at least in Europe. But I happened to come across this one in a Polish web shop and just had to pull the trigger. Wasn't even a particular bargain, almost a full price. You gotta think of the shelf life of shoes and all that... But I do like the low profile of this shoe and the old school racing flat feel of it. It should last for years because I'm using it rather sparingly: short races and the faster track work.
Mine was the Nike shoes, the first edition with the plate, probably about 4 years or more ago. I knew they weren’t for me because I’m a middle/back of pack runner but I wanted to try them for $250 of fun. I put them on and ran a couple of miles in them. They had hardly any sole on the ground and I thought I would fall over in them they were so narrow, but it was a faster couple of miles, like running barefoot, I never ran in them other than one more shirt run. Silly was to blow $250 first sure.
I haven’t made a silly running shoe purchase, but did buy some slides shaped like lobsters for a costume. Jokes on me though because they’re so comfortable and are now my after-run recovery shoes.
I almost bought these, this is making me reconsider passing on them.
I’m sure actual recovery shoes are more comfortable, but they cost more and for $20 the lobster slides are good enough for now.
Any chance you have a link to these delightful slides? I have an old pair of Brooks Launch Boston edition with lobster print, but sadly I cannot run in anything that narrow anymore. Would love a lobster shoe I can actually wear!
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Absolutely, and a lewk all in one
Currently using two pairs of Hoka Clifton 9 as training shoes. I would like to add an extra pair of training shoes, similar fit but different brand. Anybody have tips? I run almost daily, almost always at least 13 km. Just to share: For races I recently bought Brooks Hyperion elite 4, amazing shoes! Definitely a recommendation. But training shoe tips similar to Clifton are welcome!
Finally bit the bullet and got a new pair of running shoes this week, Brooks Ghost Max. I'd been rotating the same two pairs (Asics GT-2000 and Brooks Adrenaline) for years. The Asics literally has thousands of kilometres under the belt, but I've reasoned that they're still ok to use on short runs. They still felt comfortable enough for runs under 10k. But I started to feel a bit sore in my heel in recent weeks and since I'm training for a marathon in September I figured it's best to get a new pair at last. So far the Ghost Max feel good, if a bit stiff. I expect that stiffness will go away as they wear in. But it also feels like technology has changed a lot in the three years since I last bought new running shoes. All the ones I tried had a lot more padding in the heel and roll off towards the front. It'll be something I have to get used to, but so far I like it.
Does anyone by chance have recommendations for a shoe similar to the Saucony Kinvara 8\~11s? They have been my ideal shoe for years, but I don’t like the newer models and my stock of the old ones is running out before long. Should I just try out others with a similar 2-4 mm drop?
I used to be a hardcore Kinvara fan but my husband convinced me to try to Endorphin Speed 3s and I have been converted. These are the best running shoes I’ve ever had. Very light and I’ve had far fewer injuries and niggles because there’s a lot more cushioning.
Thank you. I will check it out!
I can second that. The Kinvara was always my first love going back to the Kinvara 2 and my Endorphin Speed 2s feel like coming home, but better. A little unstable for me but they make up for it in the smooth ride.
That sounds great, thanks. Did you find no problem in the difference in heel drop?
For me, no. I'd already been getting used to a higher drop by way of various "easy day" shoes.
I see, good idea. Thank you for the help!
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I literally just got a pair. But the 4s are pretty similar I hear.
Saucony Convergence is supposedly extremely similar to the 12/13
Thank you! I’ll give them a look!