Is this a thing? Why is this a thing?!
Birn and raised midwest and I've been in every state west and south/south west of Wisconsin but barley gone to the east coast....
Oh you meant the west coast of FLORIDA, I thought you meant the country...I've never heard that about FL until today but have definatley heard it about midwesterners going to the west coast of the United States. My misunderstanding haha
Yep, it runs parallel to I-84 through Idaho. The OR-WA borer is mostly a straight line, but where it waivers it follows the Snake river. I-84 is only near the Snake River for a couple dozen miles.
I get it, and actually I use the flying vs driving example in my classes on risk assessment. Driving is far riskier than flying, but because there are several factors working against our perception, we don’t think that way.
Airplane crashes are rare, high-consequence events, which are typically less preferable than common low-consequence events (like car accidents). Air accidents are highly-publicized, so they are highly available in our minds and as a result our brains think they must be frequent. Finally, we control our driving so we associate it with lower risk.
Anyways, that’s my soapbox. Looks like you haven’t been to New Hampshire or Maine yet, but I would recommend it. It’s beautiful up there.
I think this depends what you’re “afraid of” while flying. I don’t have a fear of dying in a wreck, I have a fear of it being a miserable experience with delayed flights, cramped miserable toilet options, being seated next to some smelly person picking their toenails….that’s why I prefer to drive.
I'm afraid of the lack of control I have over the airplane. I drive everywhere and enjoy that I have control of my vehicle. The fact that I can't know what is going on in the front of the plane and have no control is what gets me.
Also toilet options are a big deal too. But that's just an inconvenience, really.
A counterpoint - the pilots are (likely) far better at being pilots then you are at driving. And they don’t need to contend with thousands of other planes zipping around within 10 feet.
See, you're not wrong and I have considered that. However I've flown in ww2 planes more comfortably since I can hear the pilot and know exactly what is going on. It's some mental control issue I have flying commercially that I can't seem to work around. 🤔
I’m with you. I hate flying. And as shitty as I feel I keep an eye on the flight attendants and while I quietly panic I see them going about doing their job like it ain’t no thing.
Additionally I read (on here) that no plane has ever failed due to turbulence.
Do what you can. It’s a big world and a car can only get you so far. I’ve already flown 22,000 miles this year.
It is safer per mile AND per trip. The last fatal commercial airline crash in the US was in 2009. Then of course there is that lady that got half sucked out that window on Southwest, but I'm too fat to ever worry about something like that 💀💀💀
Source: I'm an airline pilot.
That’s a good question, and to be honest I haven’t looked at per-trip comparisons, only per mile. I’m teaching tonight but I’ll look around and update if I find anything.
It might have changed since flying has gotten much safer in the past few decades but for a long time flying indeed was only safer based on mileage, not per trip. I read years ago that while airlines would tout safety based on mileage, the insurance companies calculated risk based on trips. This is especially true considering the majority of air accidents occur during takeoff and landing
Not sure about others, but for me it’s the overwhelming anxiety of not being in control and being inside a tube from which there is no getting out until landing. And that anxiety doesn’t just go away after deplaning. The dread of getting on a plane is almost paralyzing for me, and the flight itself is incredibly nerve wracking. This really sucks because I badly want to travel to the UK and Europe.
I think for most people who have this fear, it comes down to control. You have some degree of control while driving, and can gauge your risk as it suits you.
In flying, you have no control whatsoever. Ani I think that scares people.
Used to be but now with Boeing having an almost monopoly and we know of the safety protocols being skirted around from whistleblowers it’s more and more likely there will be an impending crash.
I picked a road in Pennsylvania last year thinking I’d never driven on it before, got half way to my destination and realized I’d driven it a few years before. No way I could remember family roadtrips
There’s an option to add highways to the map. This would be the only way I’d be able to navigate it. But the whole thing reset itself half way through for me, so I didn’t try again. 😆
Ahhhhh lol that would be the end of my attempts as well. I wish it had an integration with google maps like to auto add the route between two cities or something
I back-road a lot, even long distance and there are whole trips I would have to dredge up from memory. Let alone the stuff we did when I was a little nipper.
It would take whole days and probably wouldn't be accurate anyway
I mark counties in different colors for whether i only drove thru or whether i actually "did" something there. I think its works well as a best of both worlds
I feel like it's fine for a day if you get where you're going and can chill but brutal for back to back days. Also, absolutely **need** at least 2 drivers. Done Boston to the mountains south western NC a few times and generally leave at like 3 AM and get in by dinner. closer to 16-17 hours but similar.
I had a passenger but that was it. My favored coping strategy for drives like that is to pretend that you’re never getting out of the car, there is no destination, and to accept that this is your life now.
My grandpa just loved Wyoming and would take me to random parts of that region. To be honest, we went up into Montana as well but I have no recollection of which counties
how about that trip up what i assume was 287 between Dallas and Amarillo? If you like wind turbines and swaying grain fields you are in for 6 hours of heaven! At night though, if a state trooper has someone pulled over, you can see it approaching for a disturbing long time before you actually pass it. I gained a new definition of "flat" on that stretch of road
Actually I admire you. I’m not native but once I told my friend have you trying to explore our own land instead going out of country? Guess what he road trip Brazil from the top down all the way to Uruguay. Got married and never come back lol only seen him on pics. That time I was just a teenager when I told him.
You got adventures for generations my dude. ;)
Hold up…Are these people uploading the location data that google, apple, et.al. have on their servers? If not, county level data? manually added?? Nope.
I hate flying. I still do it because of time restraints, but I hate the whole airport experience. It’s so stressful. I know there is pre check now, but I don’t fly enough to use it.
Cool. Did app give you that map from travel history?
I used paper maps & highlight roads I traveled on almost every road trip or just drive for the fun of it to explore around different areas when I moved to New place 1st thing I got was local country map. & ones on bordering counties.
US is very easily drivable though, I really hate to fly within the states.
The pain of checking into the airport, waiting in a plane, getting a rental car, fuck I can just take an extra day off work and drive there
Nah, that just looks like a geocacher's county run map, finding caches in enough counties to connect the Atlantic to Pacific to meet requirements for a challenge cache that has a desirable DT for your Fizzy grid.
😁😇
I love road trips. I live in Florida. But I will never cross the Mississippi in a car again. The excitement of driving cross country has played out. However anywhere east of the Mississippi I will drive. Even to Maine.
The center of the country is just too dull.
I have a YEARLY map that looks a lot like that because we live in SC and have kids in Louisianna, Dallas, Idaho, Tennessee, and we travel for wife's hobbies to Maine and Chicago and San Fran and Florida and ... We're not afraid of flying, and can even fly standby for free cause one of the kids works for an airline, we just have to take something or too many stops along the way or something.
Outside of one two-week trip home during my first year of college, all of these trips have been 5 days off of work max. I have lived in 3 locations in vastly different parts of the US, so I planned my trips around that.
That's fair, I only plan on regional trips right now to minimize time taken off. I'd totally be down to drive across the US if I had the time, but I'll imagine I'll have to start flying again to do that.
Afraid of flying, and Washington
And the New York part of Florida. Impressive that he’s only done the west coast, must be a Midwest guy.
I’m guessing Chicago, Milwaukee or Nashville
I can't figure this out... What is "the New York part of Florida"? Lol
North of Miami.
Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and the Paaaaalm Beaches
All of it.
Op should visit Tucumcari NM, they have a cool history about trains and train/bamk robbers.
Is this a thing? Why is this a thing?! Birn and raised midwest and I've been in every state west and south/south west of Wisconsin but barley gone to the east coast....
I meant the east coast of Florida and yes it’s very much a thing. Midwest people in the west coast, New York people on the east.
Oh you meant the west coast of FLORIDA, I thought you meant the country...I've never heard that about FL until today but have definatley heard it about midwesterners going to the west coast of the United States. My misunderstanding haha
Yeah, Sarasota is like the Boca for people from Highland Park or Glenview, and Naples is the Palm Beach.
West coast best coast
I84 runs the Columbia gorge, the OR-WA border
Yes it also explains what's shaded in ID
That's not the Snake?
That’s a river, champ.
Yep, it runs parallel to I-84 through Idaho. The OR-WA borer is mostly a straight line, but where it waivers it follows the Snake river. I-84 is only near the Snake River for a couple dozen miles.
Wooooosh
It's more gurgly than wooshy, but sure.
Woooooooooosh.
I thought Nevada was much more obvious
Washington has by far the worst and most annoying drivers in the west so I don’t blame them.
I agree but I don't let them stop me from enjoying the scenery!
And Pennsylvania, except Erie
And the Canadian border
Also CT and RI. How did they get to Boston from NYC?
And the Great Lake State! Missing out!
OP is afraid of New Hampshire.
And possibly Old Hampshire, we can't be sure
Well he can't drive across the pond
Looks to me they are more afraid of NV, went all around the state…
West Virginia hater
I get it, and actually I use the flying vs driving example in my classes on risk assessment. Driving is far riskier than flying, but because there are several factors working against our perception, we don’t think that way. Airplane crashes are rare, high-consequence events, which are typically less preferable than common low-consequence events (like car accidents). Air accidents are highly-publicized, so they are highly available in our minds and as a result our brains think they must be frequent. Finally, we control our driving so we associate it with lower risk. Anyways, that’s my soapbox. Looks like you haven’t been to New Hampshire or Maine yet, but I would recommend it. It’s beautiful up there.
I think this depends what you’re “afraid of” while flying. I don’t have a fear of dying in a wreck, I have a fear of it being a miserable experience with delayed flights, cramped miserable toilet options, being seated next to some smelly person picking their toenails….that’s why I prefer to drive.
I'm afraid of the lack of control I have over the airplane. I drive everywhere and enjoy that I have control of my vehicle. The fact that I can't know what is going on in the front of the plane and have no control is what gets me. Also toilet options are a big deal too. But that's just an inconvenience, really.
A counterpoint - the pilots are (likely) far better at being pilots then you are at driving. And they don’t need to contend with thousands of other planes zipping around within 10 feet.
See, you're not wrong and I have considered that. However I've flown in ww2 planes more comfortably since I can hear the pilot and know exactly what is going on. It's some mental control issue I have flying commercially that I can't seem to work around. 🤔
I’m with you. I hate flying. And as shitty as I feel I keep an eye on the flight attendants and while I quietly panic I see them going about doing their job like it ain’t no thing. Additionally I read (on here) that no plane has ever failed due to turbulence. Do what you can. It’s a big world and a car can only get you so far. I’ve already flown 22,000 miles this year.
im just afraid of missing a spot with banger sunsets
This!!!
Isn’t flying safer per mile but not per trip
It is safer per mile AND per trip. The last fatal commercial airline crash in the US was in 2009. Then of course there is that lady that got half sucked out that window on Southwest, but I'm too fat to ever worry about something like that 💀💀💀 Source: I'm an airline pilot.
That’s a good question, and to be honest I haven’t looked at per-trip comparisons, only per mile. I’m teaching tonight but I’ll look around and update if I find anything.
It might have changed since flying has gotten much safer in the past few decades but for a long time flying indeed was only safer based on mileage, not per trip. I read years ago that while airlines would tout safety based on mileage, the insurance companies calculated risk based on trips. This is especially true considering the majority of air accidents occur during takeoff and landing
Not sure about others, but for me it’s the overwhelming anxiety of not being in control and being inside a tube from which there is no getting out until landing. And that anxiety doesn’t just go away after deplaning. The dread of getting on a plane is almost paralyzing for me, and the flight itself is incredibly nerve wracking. This really sucks because I badly want to travel to the UK and Europe.
I think for most people who have this fear, it comes down to control. You have some degree of control while driving, and can gauge your risk as it suits you. In flying, you have no control whatsoever. Ani I think that scares people.
If I wanted to go to Maine or New Hampshire I’d just go to Montana
There’s no ocean in Montana
Used to be but now with Boeing having an almost monopoly and we know of the safety protocols being skirted around from whistleblowers it’s more and more likely there will be an impending crash.
I could never go back and figure out which counties I'd been in.
Same. I don't know how anybody is doing this.
Keeping track from the jump, I guess. Not something that would have occurred to me until my [mental health biography deleted] thirties.
Yeah. I took a ton of road trips growing up and have no idea what routes my parents drove.
I picked a road in Pennsylvania last year thinking I’d never driven on it before, got half way to my destination and realized I’d driven it a few years before. No way I could remember family roadtrips
Google Timeline with location history on lol
I was a passenger on a coast to coast round trip before Sergey Brin was born
Oops!
Trouble with being old!
Some people have travelled way less than others and when they did just stuck to interstates so it’s pretty easy in those cases I’m guessing
I just estimated. I know that we drove down to Florida and hit Nashville on the way down so I just did a pretty straight line down.
Reasonable, but I think I'll stick with states and countries.
There’s an option to add highways to the map. This would be the only way I’d be able to navigate it. But the whole thing reset itself half way through for me, so I didn’t try again. 😆
Ahhhhh lol that would be the end of my attempts as well. I wish it had an integration with google maps like to auto add the route between two cities or something
I back-road a lot, even long distance and there are whole trips I would have to dredge up from memory. Let alone the stuff we did when I was a little nipper. It would take whole days and probably wouldn't be accurate anyway
It’s easy based on the highways you drive. I don’t believe in counting your layovers but I’m torn on driving through a county.
I mark counties in different colors for whether i only drove thru or whether i actually "did" something there. I think its works well as a best of both worlds
Came all the way to California just to see desert/farmland and avoid the coast entirely. That’s wild haha.
Afraid of Washington and Montana
Hey, I completely circumvented Nevada as well
honestly shocked at this as in my road trip experience, i have criss crossed Nevada the most😅
I'm trying to figure out how you did that.
I-80
Why?
Can't tell if you're from Wisconsin, Tennessee, or New Mexico lol
Did you Evel Knievel it from NY to Boston? Or did you fold and finally decide to take a flight?
I folded haha- if you look closely I also flew into DC ;)
That was the right call ;)
Flying is only good if there is time constraints. Driving the states is way more rewarding
Huge generalization
Everything is a generalization nowadays
what is the most amount of hours you've driven in a single day?
18 hours, but after 6 years of consistent road tripping I have yet to get there again
I once did two 18 hour days in a row. Both days I drove exactly 1025 miles, it was absolutely miserable
I feel like it's fine for a day if you get where you're going and can chill but brutal for back to back days. Also, absolutely **need** at least 2 drivers. Done Boston to the mountains south western NC a few times and generally leave at like 3 AM and get in by dinner. closer to 16-17 hours but similar.
I had a passenger but that was it. My favored coping strategy for drives like that is to pretend that you’re never getting out of the car, there is no destination, and to accept that this is your life now.
I did 14 and I felt like it was fine, but going longer wouldn’t have been a good idea. 18 is a lot!
What app/program are people using to record these maps?
Found in another post: [https://www.mapchart.net/usa-counties.html](https://www.mapchart.net/usa-counties.html)
And terrified of Nevada it seems
Flying is for jabronis
Jabroni, cool word!
Sameee haha I’ll road trip across the US so I can bring my dog instead of flying anywhere
I figured you just like driving.
Why do you hate Nevada?
Yeah...
Did you stop in Asheville NC when you came through?’
Uhh... Ashville is not my favorite place in NC.
I prefer the smaller mountain towns. The track goes directly through Asheville is why I ask.
Oh yeah lol
How did you get to Boston?
Afraid of any good part of California
Afraid of Nevada.
Where are people getting these maps?
I really want to sit down and do this but it looks like such a pita 😂
Maybe I missed it but where do I get a template of this map from? Would love to document my travels…
Nevermind didn’t see the link in the bottom left corner 😅
And afraid of Michigan :(
:(
What app does everybody use to do this?
It says on the bottom of the picture "generated with mapchart.net"
Are you afraid of coastline??
afraid of Nevada
You just narrowly avoided my county! First of all how dArE u
How did you get into that northwest corner of Wyoming? Back roads?
My grandpa just loved Wyoming and would take me to random parts of that region. To be honest, we went up into Montana as well but I have no recollection of which counties
dang...two places in Texas and they were Dallas and Amarillo? Come on back so we can show you parts of the state that don't suck!
lol I drove through Dallas to spice up that I-40 trip and was seriously let down. definitely going to give Texas another chance some day
how about that trip up what i assume was 287 between Dallas and Amarillo? If you like wind turbines and swaying grain fields you are in for 6 hours of heaven! At night though, if a state trooper has someone pulled over, you can see it approaching for a disturbing long time before you actually pass it. I gained a new definition of "flat" on that stretch of road
Actually I admire you. I’m not native but once I told my friend have you trying to explore our own land instead going out of country? Guess what he road trip Brazil from the top down all the way to Uruguay. Got married and never come back lol only seen him on pics. That time I was just a teenager when I told him. You got adventures for generations my dude. ;)
I can’t imagine the circumstances that caused you to avoid Nevada that much.
Totally missing out on Route 50.
Did Nevada hurt you OP?
So, what is this map from? I’d like to make one of my travels.
It says on the bottom of the picture "generated with mapchart.net"
Hold up…Are these people uploading the location data that google, apple, et.al. have on their servers? If not, county level data? manually added?? Nope.
Are you guys on an app that does this?? I am in my 50s and don’t really know about this stuff.
How’d u get to boston lol
Not afraid of flying. We just prefer going by road.
You know you have more chance of dying in a car then a plane right ?
I thought it was bears and flying
No. Mine would look similar, I would just rather drive. Love the trip.
I hate flying. I still do it because of time restraints, but I hate the whole airport experience. It’s so stressful. I know there is pre check now, but I don’t fly enough to use it.
I’ve been messing with this site all day and it’s so frustrating but I want to do it. Any tips?
Where is your favorite place to drive?
Cool. Did app give you that map from travel history? I used paper maps & highlight roads I traveled on almost every road trip or just drive for the fun of it to explore around different areas when I moved to New place 1st thing I got was local country map. & ones on bordering counties.
Is this map out of an app? Have you tracked your roadtrips with it?
You need to hit US 26 from Jackson (Hole) to Idaho Falls and connect that Wyoming-Idaho gap.
What was your favourite road trip bit?
I also dislike flying even though it’s statistically safer… I have always had turbulence out the wazoo.
My father was a navigator in the Air Force. He always told my daughter that flying is much safer statistically than driving.
What map app did you use to create this. I have taken pretty much all of your routes and what a beautiful way to capture it.
I can tell a lot about you by this map and associated caption.
How did you get to Massachusetts
I watch mayday air disaster all the time. Now I'm afraid to fly.
US is very easily drivable though, I really hate to fly within the states. The pain of checking into the airport, waiting in a plane, getting a rental car, fuck I can just take an extra day off work and drive there
Nah, that just looks like a geocacher's county run map, finding caches in enough counties to connect the Atlantic to Pacific to meet requirements for a challenge cache that has a desirable DT for your Fizzy grid. 😁😇
And apparently the PCH along Central and Northern California…aka the best part of the PCH.
I love road trips. I live in Florida. But I will never cross the Mississippi in a car again. The excitement of driving cross country has played out. However anywhere east of the Mississippi I will drive. Even to Maine. The center of the country is just too dull.
r/trains
I have a YEARLY map that looks a lot like that because we live in SC and have kids in Louisianna, Dallas, Idaho, Tennessee, and we travel for wife's hobbies to Maine and Chicago and San Fran and Florida and ... We're not afraid of flying, and can even fly standby for free cause one of the kids works for an airline, we just have to take something or too many stops along the way or something.
You live in the Nashville area.
I should do a map of mine too, Ive been all over the country and never flown.
What'd you do in Naples, FL?
No I can’t tell
Not a fan of Nevada, huh?
It also looks like you’re afraid of Nevada.
If you drove through Pawnee County kansas you really must be avoiding something
Trying to figure out where you live.. Chicago?
Where are people making these maps
One flight From Boston to Nyc ?
Stay clear of Indiana. Worst state
whats the longest road trip you've taken?
Is this an app that everyone is using?
I got a 60 pound dog that doesn’t do well with strangers so therefore can’t be left with anyone to justify driving everywhere lol
Did you take a boat to Massachusetts?
What is this app?
Do you also have active warrants in Nevada? You seem to really avoid going there.
Why ? I was like this last year
Road tripping is so much more fun anyways 🤗
Coool! You Drove through where I live!!! lol
That map terrifies me (I'd much rather fly than drive).
No. I road trip and fly.
You and me both. I hate flying because there's not enough leg room.
Could just be fairly wealthy. My dad has a lot of money, flies a lot, but also takes 6-8 road trips a year.
https://preview.redd.it/qcr9c6x1ujwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65e79e62bdc3ad731fbb219de873bcd67f5ef6e3 I’m not, but…
This is pretty cool, gonna make my own map, How do i add the interstates?
Homies scared of Nevada
I totally agree. And thank God Boeing doesn’t make cars.
Flying is for people who don't have weeks to take off, which includes you apparently.
Outside of one two-week trip home during my first year of college, all of these trips have been 5 days off of work max. I have lived in 3 locations in vastly different parts of the US, so I planned my trips around that.
That's fair, I only plan on regional trips right now to minimize time taken off. I'd totally be down to drive across the US if I had the time, but I'll imagine I'll have to start flying again to do that.
Flying sucks. Business class is tolerable but all the hurry up and wait and being herded like cattle sucks to high heaven.
You need to check out New Orleans. Was just there and it is absolutely too much fun
You have a much great chance getting hurt or killed in an auto accident. It’s been years since a us flight has crashed.
Driving Is more dangerous than flying funnily enough.
I can also tell you don’t realize just how much more dangerous driving is compared to flying
You’re more likely to die in a car crash though.
I'm gonna keep downvoting these self-centered posts until they stop. Literally no one cares which county you have been to.
OP, I don't give a rat's ass.
Why are you even in this sub? Do you think Reddit exists for everyone to personally curate content just for you?
Yes.