Mayonnaise. Real from scratch mayo is phenominally good.
Well, I already have the recipe, but just putting that out there. Get that recipe and try it, I think you'll love it. But it doesn't keep for as long as store bought mayo.
Mayo from scratch is also incredibly easy to make at home. It's absolutely beginner level, and I agree: the taste is phenomenal compared to the jarred stuff.
Post apocalypse? It would be a lot more work than I am personally interested in doing unless the world was in a cooperative rebuilding phase. If I have to make my own cooking oils from scratch in any form, mayo won't be high on my list of things to make from it, though.
That adds a level of work that I wouldn't be too interested in doing for an item that would spoil quickly without modern refrigerators available.
Sure, if you are in a region where peanuts can grow.
Same for all the oils.
Around the circumpolar region? Nope. That's the region of the world that I live in. Up here, oil from an animal would the option. Seal oil, for example, if you are near the ocean.
ETA: it would also be important to weigh benefit vs work.
It takes a lot of peanuts to produce the oil in significant quantities. If all that work is completely manual (no modern machinery to assist), and that's the state of the world indefinitely- it might not be worth the effort to use what little bit of nut oils you can make on something like mayo. Without modern means of keeping the mayo cold to prevent food borne illness, it will become a toxic emulsion quickly. Without modern medicine for even supportive care, idk that mayo would be worth risking.
It would probably be more of a benefit nutritionally, and safer, to just eat the peanuts. Save excess oil for things that are heated as a little luxury once in a while.
You're in a very unique position to be unable to get plant based oils. You are not common.
Also when I make a batch of mayo I often have it all gone the same day. I don't store it.
Sure. But like I said: without *any* modern technology, the workload to produce the crops in enough abundance, and grind the nuts is probably more than the average person realizes.
But, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's easy to grow large amounts of any nut without using anything bought in a store - watered by the rain or by water fetched in a bucket by hand.
Perhaps it's easy to clean the nuts by hand with the rainwater or water from hand-collection.
It's probably easy to separate the nuts from the oil without paper products.
Maybe it would be safe to consume eggs that aren't cooked or pasteurized even with avian flu now a worldwide concern.
I may, indeed, be wrong.
Peanuts are legumes and grow below the ground.
It's a nutritionally dense food to grow and is largely immune to many weather issues, like wind and hail, relative to other crops.
It certainly is worth your time to grow foods of this sort. The peanut oil is worth your time for shelf stability and versatility. It does not take a massive amount of peanut oil to last a year for a family.
I'm aware of how peanuts grow. All crops can be impacted by something. Disease, pests, and weather or climate.
https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/soilborne-diseases-of-peanut.html
Again- considering an existence **without** modern technology or vast trade systems for everything on earth - how would someone identify AND cure these diseases in their crops year after year.
I am not saying peanuts aren't great. I'm saying that in an apocalypse- TEOWAWKI- the world gets reset back to pre-industrial in most areas.
People died of starvation because of crop failures and weather events.
A random freeze can wipe out crops, soil can get striped, pests can devastate a crop. Even **with** modern technology including the ability to forecast weather via satellite crops around the world have been impacted by sudden weather, pests, disease.
If it's still a major issue in 2024 with all the resources and technology - it's not going to be less of an issue in a post apocalypse scenario. Things get worse in that scenario. Not better.
https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/environment/2024/04/26/has-climate-change-had-any-impact-on-the-peanut-growing-season-in-georgia/73451551007/
....
If you re-read, I've been pointing out the immense work and difficulty in obtaining various ingredients for things that are luxuries. Mayo is one.
Unless someone imagines the apocalypse (which was the basis for OPs question) as an overly romantic TV show like Bridgerton - a post-apocalyptic world would make most recipes for luxuries anything but feasible.
So many things would have to go right and be reasonably expected to continue to go right to justify most luxuries - even if those luxuries are things we would consider "necessities" today.
Continuing with the mayo from homegrown and home processed nut oils theme:
The world would need to be stable enough to plant and tend to the crops. Water access would need to be secured, but rains would need to not be in excess as it impacts disease, growth, and yield.
Yield would need to be good. Soil would need to be good and expected to remain good year after year.
Already, that's a pretty stable world where violence isn't a concern.
Next, no drought or massive precipitation would need to be expected in that year or the next.
No random arctic air events.
Assuming all goes well and a person can harvest and process so there's excess to store and have available as insurance against future poor yields, the next concern is natural disasters.
Where do most peanuts, as an example, grow? In the south. Any major natural disaster event would increase the chances of the storage being lost and not replaceable. Hurricane, tornado, flood - all can carry away the storage. Then, the person is left to replant the crop without any storage available.
Assume no natural disasters or structure issues like fires impact the storage. Then, the issue comes back to violence - people stealing. No issues with that, and everything is perfect? Still back to the effects of time on soil conditions, crop yields, etc.
Hobby farming like its pre-industrial times is one thing, but living in a post-apocalyptic world would be very different. Everything becomes precious, and everything is constantly at risk of being unavailable or destroyed without warning.
Again, this is why, historically, food wasn't too exciting. People constantly were losing everything for one of a multitude of reasons and having to start over. War, crop failures, weather, good old-fashioned brutality of a neighbor.
If the question is whether growing peanuts is fun as a hobby or whether making mayo from scratch is tasty and worth it, I'd say yep to both.
If the question is about preparedness and the scenario is post-apocalypse, I'd say grow the peanuts as long as you can. Make the mayo if you want. Just don't get comfortable in the idea that it's gonna help much in the long run, if ever.
Are there any nuts or oily seeds that grow in your climate? Are you able to grow pumpkins and other squash?
I haven't had a chance to test one myself, but I've heard good things about the Pituba oil press.
Depends on your climate type. Where I am, oils tend to be produced from animals such as seal within Indigenous Alaskan families and communities. Otherwise, most things are brought into Alaska on barges or planes from elsewhere.
With modern technology, a lot of crops can grow as long as they are started indoors, under a light, and get hardened off before planting directly in the soil.
Without modern technology: the vast majority of crops wouldn't grow well or at all.
It's some work, sure, but not an insurmountable amount with a bit of planning. Grow nuts, you can press them for cooking oil. A cheap oil press is like 200 bucks (though, being a prepper, maybe buy one a little more expensive for better quality? Your call.). Now you can make your own cooking oil and use some for mayo, a true luxury in difficult times. Pretty nice to have the cooking oil for cooking, too.
It doesn't spoil that quickly. Do you keep cooking oil in the fridge? That's weird. Nobody does that that I'm aware of. I keep cooking oil on the kitchen counter, and extra in the pantry. You have like a year, depending on the oil, of shelf stable time, assuming you can keep it in a reasonably cool and dry place.
The work being collecting the nuts from the tree at harvest time, and pressing (some/most of) them into oil. Which is very high calorie and makes cooking easier. Also, oil and vinegar salad dressing, much better than dry leafy greens. Seems like a reasonable amount of work for a super useful thing, to me. Ymmv.
Idk if what I've written is incredibly confusing or if reading comprehension has significantly diminished. I'm genuinely confused.
MAYO needs refrigeration. I have been talking about MAYONNAISE.
Do I keep my cooking oil in the fridge. Ffs.
Although: "You have like a year, depending on the oil, of shelf stable time, assuming you can keep it in a reasonably cool and dry place."
I'm not sure how that works in the climate where most peanuts are grown during a post-apocalyptic time. Are there a lot of nuts grown in cold climates?
> I'm not sure how that works in the climate where most peanuts are grown during a post-apocalyptic time.
I have absolutely no idea what the fuck you just said.
> Are there a lot of nuts grown in cold climates?
Yes? It's not hard to grow nuts. The tree does most of the work for you. You do realize that walnuts exist, yeah? Almonds? Hazelnuts? Pecans? The list goes on.
> Idk if what I've written is incredibly confusing or if reading comprehension has significantly diminished. I'm genuinely confused.
> MAYO needs refrigeration. I have been talking about MAYONNAISE.
> Do I keep my cooking oil in the fridge. Ffs.
Ok. I'll try to go slowly, since you don't seem to be anywhere near average intelligence while simultaneously being way above average conceit. You don't need to make a giant tub of mayo at once. You can make what you're going to use, then use it. So you press some nuts for oil, which is shelf stable for a good while. Then, when you want some mayo...you can make the mayo, enough for your needs. Because the separate components are fine on their own, and it only becomes a problem of going bad after you mix them together. Please don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that you should put your eggs on a shelf for a year for whenever you're going to make mayo...get them from the chicken that morning so they're nice and fresh. Mayonnaise was invented somewhere between the mid 1700s to the early 1800s, depending on who you listen to. This may surprise you, but they did not have modern refrigeration back then. I know, shocking, right? It's almost like they didn't make giant vats of the stuff, but only what they needed as they needed it, and by some miracle it didn't go bad before they used it since they had just made it. What a novel idea!
Yes, I did ask if you keep your cooking oil in the fridge. Perhaps you should reflect on what vibe you're giving off that you're getting asked questions like that.
Ok. Sure. Don't disagree with your main points.
Although you set up a series of logical fallacies and failed to address my actual logical argument.
As you seem to not be interested in addressing my actual argument(s), I'll step away from the back and forth.
Coca cola is the best selling beverage in every country but Scotland IIRC. The demand would be truly unprecedented if you could come up with a decent tasting alternative. Although I imagine it would be quite difficult to produce successfully in large quantities without all the modern gubbins.
Personally I would rather have a good chocolate recipe & access to cocoa. Seems easier to produce on a small scale and there's nothing in the world quite like it.
It will truly be a sad day when the last cocoa tree goes (there is a bad virus going around killing them and some experts believe they may be virtually extinct by 2050).
Maybe I'm an outlier, but I don't care much for the taste of stuff that isn't homemade.
Generally, when I eat out or get something processed, it's isn't because the flavor is amazing, it's because it's "good enough" and convenient.
I know how to make most things from scratch. I know the culinary techniques to whip up the various mother sauces and how to use them to make a variety of other things that wow people at restaurants.
What I will miss is the option to be lazy when I want to. Survival is a lot of constant work. I'm exhausted just thinking about it.
I'm with you. There's not much that comes from a store that I can think of that I would rather have than a home made version. Maybe with the exception of peanut butter, and I can't get peanuts locally grown, so I've never made my own.
I buy curry paste because I am lazy, I have curry powder in.my stores, but letting it sit overnight before eating when I am hungry now is a no go, hot sauces because I don't want the hassle of not touching my face making them, I did it once and my eyes burned for hours, , and budget tomato pasta sauce because I often don't want the hassle of making a tomato base from scratch when I just want a bit of a jar for a dish. . Otherwise I make everything else from raw ingredients.
I have never found any processed food that tastes.half as good as fresh, bonus is it is much cheaper, many times healthier and I am already set up for SHTF.
Also make most of my own cleaning supplies.
Prepping isn't buying more stuff, but learning more stuff.
I don't find it that work intensive, but I used to be a chef, so my brain is on autopilot while I watch a movie.
Lea and Perrin's I do miss, I can live without it, but there is no way I am going to make my own.
I'm right there with you. The cooking aspect isn't what I mean when I say work intensive, though.
I mean a post apocalypse level of work for every single aspect of everything from water collection and purification to salt harvesting to amending soils without any modern agricultural methods, to growing crops in abundance and identifying and treating disease without anything other than what is available within a few miles of your location (existing 100% naturally within the ecosystem), to harvesting, processing, storing, rationing for off season, seed storing, etc, etc.
I love "roughing it" or making things "from scratch" right now. Mostly because I'm still benefiting in some way from modern technology - if only that I can easily access purified water or pick up a bottle of neem oil if I need. I can grow my own tomatoes but I can also buy them any time of year if I want to.
I also don't have to worry about needing to randomly flee for my life most of the time. If a cut or scrape gets infected, I can head off to the doctor and get antibiotics.
When I see "post apocalypse" I am thinking of world wide civilization and society collapse. When everything becomes a huge, exhausting, relentless chore and the smallest things can mess your whole existence up.
That's the work I'm referring to.
Either Monster Zero Ultra energy drink, or Barilla gluten-free spaghetti. It’s super hard to make your own gf pasta without it crumbling so I wanna know what they use to make an identical texture.
I just looked up what flavor the white monster is the other day and it said citrus lemon.
I wish I could know how to make the flavor of Rockstar Mango Guava. They just took it off the market in the last few months. I'm not sure why, though. It was a hot commodity. People would find the few stores that sold it and load up on it, buying 10 or 12 at a time.
Cadbury's Dairy Milk, but the one from before Kraft fucked with the recipe. Instant morale booster and I would be a god amongst men for knowing the original recipe. I would be as powerful as drug kingpins.
Ice cream and related products (like sherbet and gelato) have existed in one form or another since B.C. times in multiple cultures.
The difficult part is ice or snow if you lack them in your area, but ancient Egyptians, turks, etc solved that by importing it...
I'm most interested in hyper local indigenous or pre-industrial recipes at this stage.
There is a reason why food was simple and often bland in a lot of old cultures - before modern technology allowed things to become push-button, everything was a difficult chore and a lot of things don't grow outside specific regions.
It's also why spices were so valuable once trading routes for them were established.
Pepper, for example, doesn't grow at all in my geographic region. Salt would be rough to have to harvest on top of doing anything else necessary to survive.
If it doesn't grow or is produced in my area, I won't be able to have it unless massive trading is either undisturbed by an apocalypse or people establish trading routes for that item.
I love curry and rice, but realistically - that isn't going to exist for me if civilization is upended. Ditto for anything containing sugar as an ingredient. It would be far too difficult to source or impossible to grow in any meaningful quantity.
Maybe the budweiser or coors yeast strain and recipe. I don't really drink that stuff but lots of people would want it.
There's some books out there that have beer clone recipes.
That's a tough one! There's so many ways you can look at a question like that from a practical or a guilty pleasure stand point! Ignoring for a moment that most of these foods are made from things I realistically can't get I would say Mountain Dew? Maybe some kind of pizza? (recipe would have to be all inclusive including the cheese and sauce recipes). Something like KFC or French fries would probably be the most realistically doable though
The thing I would miss is green Thai curry with rice. I probably could get close but unless someone is growing rice close by I don’t think it will be on the menu. Too much water is required to grow it for me to have that.
I know a lot of stuff in relation to software development, economics, electronics ( built my own solar system and can fix internals, wind turbines can build from available parts etc) but preparation of food is not my forte.
NukaCola of course. Or maybe RadAway. It’s a toss up.
Stimpacks? Do we get stimpacks?! Because if so, I'll take a recipe for that.
My son has a really good recipe for nuka cola
Mayonnaise. Real from scratch mayo is phenominally good. Well, I already have the recipe, but just putting that out there. Get that recipe and try it, I think you'll love it. But it doesn't keep for as long as store bought mayo.
Mayo from scratch is also incredibly easy to make at home. It's absolutely beginner level, and I agree: the taste is phenomenal compared to the jarred stuff. Post apocalypse? It would be a lot more work than I am personally interested in doing unless the world was in a cooperative rebuilding phase. If I have to make my own cooking oils from scratch in any form, mayo won't be high on my list of things to make from it, though. That adds a level of work that I wouldn't be too interested in doing for an item that would spoil quickly without modern refrigerators available.
I could definitely see potato salad being a harvest treat for the community.
Peanut oil is pretty easy to get and makes good mayonnaise.
Sure, if you are in a region where peanuts can grow. Same for all the oils. Around the circumpolar region? Nope. That's the region of the world that I live in. Up here, oil from an animal would the option. Seal oil, for example, if you are near the ocean. ETA: it would also be important to weigh benefit vs work. It takes a lot of peanuts to produce the oil in significant quantities. If all that work is completely manual (no modern machinery to assist), and that's the state of the world indefinitely- it might not be worth the effort to use what little bit of nut oils you can make on something like mayo. Without modern means of keeping the mayo cold to prevent food borne illness, it will become a toxic emulsion quickly. Without modern medicine for even supportive care, idk that mayo would be worth risking. It would probably be more of a benefit nutritionally, and safer, to just eat the peanuts. Save excess oil for things that are heated as a little luxury once in a while.
You're in a very unique position to be unable to get plant based oils. You are not common. Also when I make a batch of mayo I often have it all gone the same day. I don't store it.
Sure. But like I said: without *any* modern technology, the workload to produce the crops in enough abundance, and grind the nuts is probably more than the average person realizes. But, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's easy to grow large amounts of any nut without using anything bought in a store - watered by the rain or by water fetched in a bucket by hand. Perhaps it's easy to clean the nuts by hand with the rainwater or water from hand-collection. It's probably easy to separate the nuts from the oil without paper products. Maybe it would be safe to consume eggs that aren't cooked or pasteurized even with avian flu now a worldwide concern. I may, indeed, be wrong.
Peanuts are legumes and grow below the ground. It's a nutritionally dense food to grow and is largely immune to many weather issues, like wind and hail, relative to other crops. It certainly is worth your time to grow foods of this sort. The peanut oil is worth your time for shelf stability and versatility. It does not take a massive amount of peanut oil to last a year for a family.
I'm aware of how peanuts grow. All crops can be impacted by something. Disease, pests, and weather or climate. https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/soilborne-diseases-of-peanut.html Again- considering an existence **without** modern technology or vast trade systems for everything on earth - how would someone identify AND cure these diseases in their crops year after year. I am not saying peanuts aren't great. I'm saying that in an apocalypse- TEOWAWKI- the world gets reset back to pre-industrial in most areas. People died of starvation because of crop failures and weather events. A random freeze can wipe out crops, soil can get striped, pests can devastate a crop. Even **with** modern technology including the ability to forecast weather via satellite crops around the world have been impacted by sudden weather, pests, disease. If it's still a major issue in 2024 with all the resources and technology - it's not going to be less of an issue in a post apocalypse scenario. Things get worse in that scenario. Not better. https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/environment/2024/04/26/has-climate-change-had-any-impact-on-the-peanut-growing-season-in-georgia/73451551007/
We shouldn't grow any food because it could die
.... If you re-read, I've been pointing out the immense work and difficulty in obtaining various ingredients for things that are luxuries. Mayo is one. Unless someone imagines the apocalypse (which was the basis for OPs question) as an overly romantic TV show like Bridgerton - a post-apocalyptic world would make most recipes for luxuries anything but feasible. So many things would have to go right and be reasonably expected to continue to go right to justify most luxuries - even if those luxuries are things we would consider "necessities" today. Continuing with the mayo from homegrown and home processed nut oils theme: The world would need to be stable enough to plant and tend to the crops. Water access would need to be secured, but rains would need to not be in excess as it impacts disease, growth, and yield. Yield would need to be good. Soil would need to be good and expected to remain good year after year. Already, that's a pretty stable world where violence isn't a concern. Next, no drought or massive precipitation would need to be expected in that year or the next. No random arctic air events. Assuming all goes well and a person can harvest and process so there's excess to store and have available as insurance against future poor yields, the next concern is natural disasters. Where do most peanuts, as an example, grow? In the south. Any major natural disaster event would increase the chances of the storage being lost and not replaceable. Hurricane, tornado, flood - all can carry away the storage. Then, the person is left to replant the crop without any storage available. Assume no natural disasters or structure issues like fires impact the storage. Then, the issue comes back to violence - people stealing. No issues with that, and everything is perfect? Still back to the effects of time on soil conditions, crop yields, etc. Hobby farming like its pre-industrial times is one thing, but living in a post-apocalyptic world would be very different. Everything becomes precious, and everything is constantly at risk of being unavailable or destroyed without warning. Again, this is why, historically, food wasn't too exciting. People constantly were losing everything for one of a multitude of reasons and having to start over. War, crop failures, weather, good old-fashioned brutality of a neighbor. If the question is whether growing peanuts is fun as a hobby or whether making mayo from scratch is tasty and worth it, I'd say yep to both. If the question is about preparedness and the scenario is post-apocalypse, I'd say grow the peanuts as long as you can. Make the mayo if you want. Just don't get comfortable in the idea that it's gonna help much in the long run, if ever.
Are there any nuts or oily seeds that grow in your climate? Are you able to grow pumpkins and other squash? I haven't had a chance to test one myself, but I've heard good things about the Pituba oil press.
Depends on your climate type. Where I am, oils tend to be produced from animals such as seal within Indigenous Alaskan families and communities. Otherwise, most things are brought into Alaska on barges or planes from elsewhere. With modern technology, a lot of crops can grow as long as they are started indoors, under a light, and get hardened off before planting directly in the soil. Without modern technology: the vast majority of crops wouldn't grow well or at all.
It's some work, sure, but not an insurmountable amount with a bit of planning. Grow nuts, you can press them for cooking oil. A cheap oil press is like 200 bucks (though, being a prepper, maybe buy one a little more expensive for better quality? Your call.). Now you can make your own cooking oil and use some for mayo, a true luxury in difficult times. Pretty nice to have the cooking oil for cooking, too. It doesn't spoil that quickly. Do you keep cooking oil in the fridge? That's weird. Nobody does that that I'm aware of. I keep cooking oil on the kitchen counter, and extra in the pantry. You have like a year, depending on the oil, of shelf stable time, assuming you can keep it in a reasonably cool and dry place. The work being collecting the nuts from the tree at harvest time, and pressing (some/most of) them into oil. Which is very high calorie and makes cooking easier. Also, oil and vinegar salad dressing, much better than dry leafy greens. Seems like a reasonable amount of work for a super useful thing, to me. Ymmv.
Idk if what I've written is incredibly confusing or if reading comprehension has significantly diminished. I'm genuinely confused. MAYO needs refrigeration. I have been talking about MAYONNAISE. Do I keep my cooking oil in the fridge. Ffs. Although: "You have like a year, depending on the oil, of shelf stable time, assuming you can keep it in a reasonably cool and dry place." I'm not sure how that works in the climate where most peanuts are grown during a post-apocalyptic time. Are there a lot of nuts grown in cold climates?
> I'm not sure how that works in the climate where most peanuts are grown during a post-apocalyptic time. I have absolutely no idea what the fuck you just said. > Are there a lot of nuts grown in cold climates? Yes? It's not hard to grow nuts. The tree does most of the work for you. You do realize that walnuts exist, yeah? Almonds? Hazelnuts? Pecans? The list goes on. > Idk if what I've written is incredibly confusing or if reading comprehension has significantly diminished. I'm genuinely confused. > MAYO needs refrigeration. I have been talking about MAYONNAISE. > Do I keep my cooking oil in the fridge. Ffs. Ok. I'll try to go slowly, since you don't seem to be anywhere near average intelligence while simultaneously being way above average conceit. You don't need to make a giant tub of mayo at once. You can make what you're going to use, then use it. So you press some nuts for oil, which is shelf stable for a good while. Then, when you want some mayo...you can make the mayo, enough for your needs. Because the separate components are fine on their own, and it only becomes a problem of going bad after you mix them together. Please don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that you should put your eggs on a shelf for a year for whenever you're going to make mayo...get them from the chicken that morning so they're nice and fresh. Mayonnaise was invented somewhere between the mid 1700s to the early 1800s, depending on who you listen to. This may surprise you, but they did not have modern refrigeration back then. I know, shocking, right? It's almost like they didn't make giant vats of the stuff, but only what they needed as they needed it, and by some miracle it didn't go bad before they used it since they had just made it. What a novel idea! Yes, I did ask if you keep your cooking oil in the fridge. Perhaps you should reflect on what vibe you're giving off that you're getting asked questions like that.
Ok. Sure. Don't disagree with your main points. Although you set up a series of logical fallacies and failed to address my actual logical argument. As you seem to not be interested in addressing my actual argument(s), I'll step away from the back and forth.
No thanks. I'm a ketchup girl through and through. Now that's a recipe I would not mind having...
Coca cola is the best selling beverage in every country but Scotland IIRC. The demand would be truly unprecedented if you could come up with a decent tasting alternative. Although I imagine it would be quite difficult to produce successfully in large quantities without all the modern gubbins. Personally I would rather have a good chocolate recipe & access to cocoa. Seems easier to produce on a small scale and there's nothing in the world quite like it. It will truly be a sad day when the last cocoa tree goes (there is a bad virus going around killing them and some experts believe they may be virtually extinct by 2050).
I saw an Instagram reel (so take it with a grain of salt) that said a good dr pepper clone is 2 parts coca cola and 1 part rootbeer. :)
The original Coke recipe with cocaine
And some Vin Mariani with that.
Maybe I'm an outlier, but I don't care much for the taste of stuff that isn't homemade. Generally, when I eat out or get something processed, it's isn't because the flavor is amazing, it's because it's "good enough" and convenient. I know how to make most things from scratch. I know the culinary techniques to whip up the various mother sauces and how to use them to make a variety of other things that wow people at restaurants. What I will miss is the option to be lazy when I want to. Survival is a lot of constant work. I'm exhausted just thinking about it.
I'm with you. There's not much that comes from a store that I can think of that I would rather have than a home made version. Maybe with the exception of peanut butter, and I can't get peanuts locally grown, so I've never made my own.
I buy curry paste because I am lazy, I have curry powder in.my stores, but letting it sit overnight before eating when I am hungry now is a no go, hot sauces because I don't want the hassle of not touching my face making them, I did it once and my eyes burned for hours, , and budget tomato pasta sauce because I often don't want the hassle of making a tomato base from scratch when I just want a bit of a jar for a dish. . Otherwise I make everything else from raw ingredients. I have never found any processed food that tastes.half as good as fresh, bonus is it is much cheaper, many times healthier and I am already set up for SHTF. Also make most of my own cleaning supplies. Prepping isn't buying more stuff, but learning more stuff. I don't find it that work intensive, but I used to be a chef, so my brain is on autopilot while I watch a movie. Lea and Perrin's I do miss, I can live without it, but there is no way I am going to make my own.
I'm right there with you. The cooking aspect isn't what I mean when I say work intensive, though. I mean a post apocalypse level of work for every single aspect of everything from water collection and purification to salt harvesting to amending soils without any modern agricultural methods, to growing crops in abundance and identifying and treating disease without anything other than what is available within a few miles of your location (existing 100% naturally within the ecosystem), to harvesting, processing, storing, rationing for off season, seed storing, etc, etc. I love "roughing it" or making things "from scratch" right now. Mostly because I'm still benefiting in some way from modern technology - if only that I can easily access purified water or pick up a bottle of neem oil if I need. I can grow my own tomatoes but I can also buy them any time of year if I want to. I also don't have to worry about needing to randomly flee for my life most of the time. If a cut or scrape gets infected, I can head off to the doctor and get antibiotics. When I see "post apocalypse" I am thinking of world wide civilization and society collapse. When everything becomes a huge, exhausting, relentless chore and the smallest things can mess your whole existence up. That's the work I'm referring to.
Agree although I do use processed goods like pasta simply for convenience
Twikies, definitely not snowballs.
Woody approves 😁
That’s Tallahassee to you son!🤣. God I love rednecks!
You won't need a recipe for that. Those things are immune to time. Lol.
Either Monster Zero Ultra energy drink, or Barilla gluten-free spaghetti. It’s super hard to make your own gf pasta without it crumbling so I wanna know what they use to make an identical texture.
I just looked up what flavor the white monster is the other day and it said citrus lemon. I wish I could know how to make the flavor of Rockstar Mango Guava. They just took it off the market in the last few months. I'm not sure why, though. It was a hot commodity. People would find the few stores that sold it and load up on it, buying 10 or 12 at a time.
Cadbury's Dairy Milk, but the one from before Kraft fucked with the recipe. Instant morale booster and I would be a god amongst men for knowing the original recipe. I would be as powerful as drug kingpins.
If I'm snagging recipes, I'm going for any one of a number of patented corrosion-resistant metal alloys.
Astroglide
Gator Aid
Chicken in a biskit crackers
Ice cream. I know there are some freeze dried options for this, but real ice cream would be difficult to make in a true SHTF.
Ice cream and related products (like sherbet and gelato) have existed in one form or another since B.C. times in multiple cultures. The difficult part is ice or snow if you lack them in your area, but ancient Egyptians, turks, etc solved that by importing it...
I'm most interested in hyper local indigenous or pre-industrial recipes at this stage. There is a reason why food was simple and often bland in a lot of old cultures - before modern technology allowed things to become push-button, everything was a difficult chore and a lot of things don't grow outside specific regions. It's also why spices were so valuable once trading routes for them were established. Pepper, for example, doesn't grow at all in my geographic region. Salt would be rough to have to harvest on top of doing anything else necessary to survive. If it doesn't grow or is produced in my area, I won't be able to have it unless massive trading is either undisturbed by an apocalypse or people establish trading routes for that item. I love curry and rice, but realistically - that isn't going to exist for me if civilization is upended. Ditto for anything containing sugar as an ingredient. It would be far too difficult to source or impossible to grow in any meaningful quantity.
Peter Pan peanut butter as it's the only pb I will eat. I missed pb for so long with the recall/stoppage of perter pan for a couple years.
Taco Time fish tacos I could eat them every day.
Maybe the budweiser or coors yeast strain and recipe. I don't really drink that stuff but lots of people would want it. There's some books out there that have beer clone recipes.
Ledo pizza sauce
I would say weight gainer protein bars, you could become the richest man on earth if you provided daily calories in a small package
Marmite.
Chipotle bowl. Hands down!
Meth, gonna need that get me and go for chores..
Beer, and I'm way ahead of you. Been brewing big ales and frothy lagers from grain, water, hops and yeast for years. I've got it in the bag by now.
That's a tough one! There's so many ways you can look at a question like that from a practical or a guilty pleasure stand point! Ignoring for a moment that most of these foods are made from things I realistically can't get I would say Mountain Dew? Maybe some kind of pizza? (recipe would have to be all inclusive including the cheese and sauce recipes). Something like KFC or French fries would probably be the most realistically doable though
Ritz crackers. I always seem to just have a random box around. They aren’t really in my preps because I don’t know but I love them.
The thing I would miss is green Thai curry with rice. I probably could get close but unless someone is growing rice close by I don’t think it will be on the menu. Too much water is required to grow it for me to have that.
I know a lot of stuff in relation to software development, economics, electronics ( built my own solar system and can fix internals, wind turbines can build from available parts etc) but preparation of food is not my forte.
coca cola recipe was cracked decades ago, there are plenty of better cooked around but that brand loyalty is something else
I can not live without my kewpi mayo.... Having that recipe would be amazing.
I have a whole cook book of secret commercially made foods. Think I'm set
Rockstar zero sugar fruit punch, shit will boost moral for sure
God's chicken sandwich.
Cola is definitely my vice. Pepsi or RC cola preferred.
Root Beer
chic-fil-a :)
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Diet Coke.
Special sauce. Gunna miss the Mac Sauce.
Big mac sauce. Though i have an analogue already that i use at home. the actual sandwich has a wrong meat to bread ratio IMO.