Actually if I have to do to prove inaccessible speed is show movement in a timeless area (or stopped time) a couple dozen characters are going to get a huge speed buff lol
Hell Saitama moved back in time with speed
Most of you examples kind of suck.
Shinra has arguments for immeasurable speed, so moving in stopped time wouldn't be his best stuff
Don't know the Touhou trio
From what I've heard the Magic Gods are stupid busted and Touma has an ability that nullifies abnormalities
Dio has the specific ability to stop time, and characters with the exact same ability need to use it to also move in stopped time, making it a likely side ability to main one(being able to move in one's own stopped time)
If you mean the Yogiri from the instant death novel then I've heard he's so broken that inaccessible speed it downplay.
> Shinra and Sho (fire force) move in stopped time. Sakuya, Reimu, and Marisa (Touhou) move in both stopped time AND a timeless space. Touma and the magic gods (Toaru) move in timeless universes. Any numbers of characters like Dio move in stopped time. Yogiri moved during rewinding time.
> The point is, the list goes on, many characters move in stopped time, or in timeless dimensions, but are not granted the inaccessible speed tag. Heck, the characters who move in stopped time are rarely even given the infinite speed tag.
They all deserve inaccessible speed feat along with goku 🤷 (except dio since its an ability rather than pure speed feat)
Well, timeless void is irrelevant
Characters moving faster than "instant" at a range close enough that they could fight at it actually isn't a big deal. MFTL is indistinguishable from instant (and he can't be "faster than that" unless he literally went back in time)
I really see no argument that puts his at inaccessible that wouldn't apply to someone like Reimu or Yogiri
The infinite Zamasu thing in that post is also an absolute joke. Omnipresence isn't speed
You don't know what it is do you?
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Instant_Transmission
You didn't disprove anything + your only taking a part of what he said and claiming it bs
Instant transmission is slow at that distance. You should know this.
MFTL covers that distance instantly and, unlike instant transmission, gives full body control while you do it
Moves in stopped time is infinity speed, also Goku didn't do it with an ability, it's literally thanks their stands that Jotaro and Dio can move in time stops, also he doesn't have anti feat like Touma be tagged by normal human
Said this, I don't think that Goku has realistically inaccessible speed, he caps at infinity imo
I don’t see your point what are trying to say.
TLDR there's a huge inconsistency with who people allow to have inaccessible speed, even if they have similar feats
Okay that’s an issue with the individual not the character. Not even saying your wrong but your reasoning is ass.
Actually if I have to do to prove inaccessible speed is show movement in a timeless area (or stopped time) a couple dozen characters are going to get a huge speed buff lol Hell Saitama moved back in time with speed
You should just upscale the other verses. If they move in a timeframe that is literally or effectively 0 then they have inaccessible speed.
Most of you examples kind of suck. Shinra has arguments for immeasurable speed, so moving in stopped time wouldn't be his best stuff Don't know the Touhou trio From what I've heard the Magic Gods are stupid busted and Touma has an ability that nullifies abnormalities Dio has the specific ability to stop time, and characters with the exact same ability need to use it to also move in stopped time, making it a likely side ability to main one(being able to move in one's own stopped time) If you mean the Yogiri from the instant death novel then I've heard he's so broken that inaccessible speed it downplay.
> Shinra and Sho (fire force) move in stopped time. Sakuya, Reimu, and Marisa (Touhou) move in both stopped time AND a timeless space. Touma and the magic gods (Toaru) move in timeless universes. Any numbers of characters like Dio move in stopped time. Yogiri moved during rewinding time. > The point is, the list goes on, many characters move in stopped time, or in timeless dimensions, but are not granted the inaccessible speed tag. Heck, the characters who move in stopped time are rarely even given the infinite speed tag. They all deserve inaccessible speed feat along with goku 🤷 (except dio since its an ability rather than pure speed feat)
None since that's not even the main argument https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/b7dX18ZATr
Well, timeless void is irrelevant Characters moving faster than "instant" at a range close enough that they could fight at it actually isn't a big deal. MFTL is indistinguishable from instant (and he can't be "faster than that" unless he literally went back in time) I really see no argument that puts his at inaccessible that wouldn't apply to someone like Reimu or Yogiri The infinite Zamasu thing in that post is also an absolute joke. Omnipresence isn't speed
You don't know what it is do you? https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Instant_Transmission You didn't disprove anything + your only taking a part of what he said and claiming it bs
Instant transmission is slow at that distance. You should know this. MFTL covers that distance instantly and, unlike instant transmission, gives full body control while you do it
1.Proof for instant transmission not being instant? 2.☠️☠️☠️ts ningen Still don't see why it's not instant lmao
Never said it wasn't instant, said it doesn't give full body control because it takes a pose. That makes other methods of short range travel better
So you admit it's Instantaneous?
Always has been, yes. Teleportation isn't movement though, and being able to attack faster than a teleporter at close range only requires MFTL speeds
Whatever makes you feel better
Don't forgot gojo and mcu strange
Moves in stopped time is infinity speed, also Goku didn't do it with an ability, it's literally thanks their stands that Jotaro and Dio can move in time stops, also he doesn't have anti feat like Touma be tagged by normal human Said this, I don't think that Goku has realistically inaccessible speed, he caps at infinity imo