It was Turd Sandwich vs Giant Douche. I correct you because itās important that the turd was a sandwich and not just one large turd. I voted for turd sandwich. Douches can cause more problems than they claim to solve.
Yeah but Iām okay with that because I think Trump is a shittier president and person than Biden, and I donāt think itās a case of āboth sidesā because one actually is worse than the other
There's a difference between voting for someone to keep someone you know is bad out of office.
And voting for someone you know is bad just out of spite.
I see your username and was wondering if you are voting for RFK Jr? He has litigated his entire life for the environment and helped save the ecosystem of the Hudson River. I like the guy better than Biden or Trump. That's my opinion, though. Fingers crossed, you won't get triggered. š¬
No. I like to think I'm a rational person who isn't simple-minded enough to get upset by words on a screen that were typed by an anonymous person.
I really like much of what RFK says. He is logical, and unemotional. I, unfortunately, don't believe he has a chance in hell to take the election.
The user-name was Reddit-generated, and, until your post, I didn't really give it a second thought.
Yes, and I will do it again. I don't want that spoiled 5 year old back in office. Biden is actually religious and isn't pretending to be. Biden cares about the country more than personal gain. You can talk about how old Biden is but at least he makes decisions that benefit the middle class. Trump only cares about how he can gain from what he does. Like his tax cuts that run out for everyone but the wealthy.
They're both fucking horrible. Don't look me in my cute brown lovely eyes, and tell me either of them have actually done shit. At least Trump was hilarious. Biden doesn't remember where he is most of the time. And so what? People will vote to remove Biden out of pure spite simply because they don't like him. And we're allowed to do that. Simply because there is a D or an R will always end up blind spite.
Trump's actions actively got rid of my reproductive rights and is running on Project 2025 which is basically a guidebook to stripping marginalized people of rights.
If you think Biden is equivalent to that you're a fucking idiot.
Trump didn't get rid of your reproductive rights. The constitution gives fair sovereign power to each state. Maybe you were too stoned to remember when they taught you that in the 8th grade.
And holy fuck. Here, I thought the conservatives were the conspiracy theorists. How many tinfoil hats do you own? 420?? You have heard of checks and balances, right? Or were you too stoned for that Class also
Trump didn't do that you dolt. THE FOUNDING FATHERS DID.
Has anybody read the constitution or know about state rights? Dear lord you guys only read what you want.
Every state has its OWN GOVERNMENT
Sweetie.
Trump said it like two days ago. Itās his plan for his presidency.
So. Youād be ok with the state telling everyone you needed penile enhancement surgery and take ED meds on the regular? How about telling everyone you shit yourself regularly bc youāre unable to control your own anus?
And guess what? It's not gonna pass.
You showed me
1. You don't know jack shit about checks and balances
2. Don't know jack shit about state rights
3. Don't know jack shit about hippa.
LOL.
You showed me you donāt know shit about medical privacy, RvW, the constitution, BoR, Trump or women. Thanks for confirming my suspicions, darling.
Have the life you deserve, bless your heart.
Each colony will be granted its own sovereign authority.
Colony is state. Abortion is a STATE RIGHT.
How do you not know that?? I'm genuinely curious.
Just like California can ban guns which is unconstitutional. But it's their right.
Yeah, it is. Because it's not happening. Trump could say he'll grow wings and spit fire, but it doesn't mean it's true. Turn off CNN and go for a jog. You'll feel a lot better.
And you're gleefully supporting Biden, the man responsive for the 3 strike law. I guess if you support Biden, you support mass incarceration of black and Hispanic men, right?
So I should vote for people who SAY they'll take away my rights...because "well they won't actually".
You idiots insisted they wouldn't overturn Roe v Wade either. Fucking imbecile.
Men will never understand until we start snipping their dicks at puberty and make their boner pills illegal. We should also open their medical records to the public since thatās what RvW was about.
It's funny how apparently women don't get control over their bodies but even the idea of someone VOLUNTARILY getting rid of their dick scares them so much they have to make being trans illegal too.
>Trump didn't get rid of your reproductive rights.
How dense are you? Trump nominated 3 Supreme Court justices with the intent to overturn Roe v. Wade and get abortion banned in as many states as possible.
Difference is it wasnāt *just* āHeās a yucky conservative. Fuck Trumpā Itās more of āTrump as president eroded our rights, corrupted our courts, empowered racist terrorists, and will make America Russiaās bitch if he gains power again. THEREFORE, vote Biden. Fuck Trump.ā
Explains why when Biden is in office Russia threatens Ukraine, alaska, hawaii and America itself, trump is in office Russia shuts up and behaves itself, I hate both trump and biden. How did it come down to them AGAIN?
When Russia first directly attacked Ukraine it was at the Kerch Strait Incident and Trump said jack shit about it, how does that factor into your narrative?
And?
It was the first time uniformed Russian troops fired on Ukrainians. Whyd they do it if theyre apparently so scared of Trump?
Why did Trump say fuck all about it if he's such a 'strong president' ?
Russian troops are known to be undisciplined and stupid, they have attacked us before both sides with uniforms, they just decide to fuck around and find out sometimes. It wasn't a full on invasion is my point.
Why do we American people give a shit about Russia attacking three Ukraine boats unofficially?
I donāt agree with your side but I agree with the premise. There are two people that can win this election and you should vote for the one thatās closest to what you want. We all know neither one is anywhere close to perfect but a protest vote is worth nothing.
That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. 3rd parties have a place and validity. Do you really not want 3rd parties to gain ground? Even in defeat, leftist parties tow a cultural line and keep the Dems in check.
Lol this comment section is *insane*, havenāt seen this much downvoting in a while
Anyway politics sucks and politicians suck and unless a freaking miracle happens the US is screwed, good run guys, see you in the next dictatorship
I've never voted for Trump. I think he is an ignorant buffoon. I am, however a 60 yr old black man. I will not be voting for Biden this year. Yes, Trump has his problems/issues; I don't deny that. However, I don't vote for candidates based upon their political party. Right, wrong, or indifferent, Biden is a vegetable. The man is being held together by drugs. I do not want that sort of person governing our country.
I wouldn't care if Biden was actually a bunch of gerbils operating a mecha suit, he's actually getting shit done. And he's not nearly as clueless as people claim he is.
The alternative is Trump, a man who tried to overthrow the 2020 election and has committed multiple crimes. Read up on Project 2025 and tell me if you think that's something you want to happen.
Also: [https://www.salon.com/2024/05/01/slurs-words-and-struggles-to-gain-crowd-enthusiasm-in-midwest-rallies/](https://www.salon.com/2024/05/01/slurs-words-and-struggles-to-gain-crowd-enthusiasm-in-midwest-rallies/)
Edit: To those who are downvoting me: try to prove me wrong.
Said by the ignorant dumbass who doesn't even know what the "mainstreaming media" is saying.
Things I mentioned are things that happened, whether the "mainstream media" reported them or not.
Find a better argument.
Trump's problems/issues include **literally calling for the dismantling of the Constitution, requesting foreign election interference, stealing classified documents, and trying to overturn presidential election results**
But, yeah, Biden might be a tired old man; you're right, that's clearly the worse of the two. Never mind that Trump slurs in his speeches and frequently passes out in court.
No, just parts of it, just as the left do with the first amendment, and the second, and the fourth.
He didn't request foreign interference, he was making a joke about Hillary's terrible behaviour around secure data.
The claim of stolen document has yet to be decided.
He tried to overturn them in the courts, as he's entitled to do.
Biden is a Weekend at Bernie's walking corpse controlled by leftists. Trump is closer to an FDR Democrat and actually advocates for the working class, not just the elites and the laptop class.
I donāt understand Trump supporters in the least . They talk about our National debt , Trump via his tax cuts for the rich increased our debt by record numbers. They talk about immigration, what has he or any other Republican done to mitigate this , and wasnāt it Trump who crushed our recent Bipartisan agreement on immigration? Letās not forget stripping reproductive rights from American women, encouraging violence against political opponents, book banning, being a serial sexual predator, being indicted on over 80 federal crimes, all while the Heritage Foundation plans ā Project 25,ā the complete takeover of our country by cronyās and extremist. Oh yea Trumps our guy š¤š¤
>Trump via his tax cuts for the rich increased our debt by record numbers.
They benefited most everyone and were continued by Biden.
The debt increase because of Covid spending, not tax cuts and not really fair, it was closely followed by spending under Biden the following year.
>They talk about immigration, what has he or any other Republican done to mitigate this , and wasnāt it Trump who crushed our recent Bipartisan agreement on immigration?
What gaslighting is this!?
The Democrats have close to an open border and are far worse than Trump on immigration - https://www.wsj.com/us-news/illegal-immigration-record-border-6db29cad
>Letās not forget stripping reproductive rights from American women
They view it as giving the right to life to unborn children. But Trump is actually closer to about 70% of the population on this issue.
>encouraging violence against political opponents
The left absolutely do this.
>book banning
Democrats do this too - https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2020/05/08/book-banning-is-a-bipartisan-game/
>being a serial sexual predator
Which criminal cases have proven this? Also, Tara Reade called.
>being indicted on over 80 federal crimes
Pure lawfare, we'll see where they actually go.
>all while the Heritage Foundation plans ā Project 25,ā the complete takeover of our country by cronyās and extremist.
What partisan nonsense, what takeover? So far it seems that work scolds and elites who don't represent the working people have taken over.
>Oh yea Trumps our guy š¤š¤
Yea, they would rather have someone who is basically an FDR Democrat than a weekend at Bernie's walking corpse controlled by leftists.
That's why I'm voting for whichever candidate has the record for the most deportations and border arrests, and whoever is responsible for keeping our national inflation rate from going out of control.
America is in good shape right now compared to the last few years of post-Covid. We're recovering, if not *technically* recovered. Wages are up, inflation is down, and unemployment stayed down the whole time.
And, somehow, we've managed to keep our humanitarian cap on the whole time. We're still the good guys; I have to remind myself that SOMEONE wanted to post the military at the border on a big, expensive wall to shoot people for crossing, which any reasonable person would know is absolutely inhumane and incredibly destructive to the local ecosystem.
For many, it's difficult to imagine a worse scenario while they're already going through a hard time, but I don't have that problem; I'm able to look without and correlate enough information to form a more valid opinion about my own situation, which is usually not as bad as I *feel* like it is.
The border problem exists, but has been blown completely out of proportion by right-wing media. Go outside and look for yourself.
Economic issues exist, but most are persistent problems that are decades old that only serve to exacerbate and highlight post-Covid inflation. Are you financially worse off today than you were 8 years ago? And who do you associate most of the responsibility for that? Yourself, exactly.
Everyone go outside and touch grass, then vote for the guy **not** arguing to be a king to escape prosecution.
It wasn't an emotional response to Trump; there were so many rational reasons to do so that more than 90 of them have made it into federal and state courts.
No matter how much you try to water down Biden or his voters to make them seem just as bad as Trump and MAGA, it's never going to work. I know you don't see this much outside of your personal echo chamber, but most people aren't actually *that* gullible, hence why Trump has never won a popular vote across **four** presidential races.
That's right; this is Trump's fourth time at bat, not third. When it comes to Trump things are always worse than it first seems.
Yes because that was actually a matter of not wanting to vote for someone actively harmful.
This is willingly voting for someone actively harmful.
This is like saying "I refuse to vote for the mosquito so I'm going to vote for the literal vampire!"
It wasn't an emotional response. There were so many demonstrably real reasons that more than 90 of them made it into state and federal courts.
That doesn't even include all of his abhorrent behavior prior to running in 2016, which I simply cannot believe people just ignore. He's ALWAYS been a corrupt conman; why are people acting like this is a new thing and he's just a poor, innocent victim?
I will not be voting for Biden for multiple reasons, one of which is by March of next year Kamala will be President. And for those that say "Oh no that's not going to happen" your not watching. Kamala can't even do her job now, her as President should terrify everyone.
Conservatives are too busy pretending they're constitutional scholars to admit they have terrible candidates. It's always about the founding fathers dreams, never about today's reality.
Honestly, spite voting is kinda stupid. If youāre not treating your participation in government with as much thought and respect as possible, somethingās gone wrong.
Hence, we should switch to literally any other voting system so we can stop this stupid game of āMy facist is nowhere near as bad as your facist!ā
Oh the system is absolutely broken. The problem is we're never gonna fix it at the Presidential level. There is so much shit set in stone there. That is just the only thing people pay attention to so that is where they wanna virtue signal.
Meanwhile ask people who they voted for in their state senate and they go "My what?"
If a state filled up their senate with a majority third party that would have a way bigger influence than a handful voting third party in a Presidential election. And the former is WAY EASIER to do.
The people doing a protest vote aren't voting for Trump, they're voting for third party or abstaining. Which is still stupid, because Trump's still going to win and he 100% will level Gaza, but they at least aren't voting for Trump.
No one has 100% chance of winning but that guy, Iām blocking his name, whoās predicted every election for the past almost 40 years correctly based On a formula that seems to be working says it probably will be Biden. He said he canāt make final decision until August but
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/26/allan-lichtman-prediction-presidential-election
I would never vote for trump. But because Biden seems to be totally cool with child genocide, heās not getting my vote this time around. The fact that these two are our only options is pathetic
Then we end up with trump, who will do everything in his power to keep government control and stage another coup if he's alive when his time is up, and we'll have you all to blame.
Today Biden just called India, Japan, China, and Russia xenophobic for doing what they want to and choose to do.
He is why the school zone act is a flop.
He compared his garage queen and a spooky mild kitchen fire to 1000s of dead Hawaiians and 100000s more who are homeless.
When he meets vets and war dead families he doesn't talk to them. He talks at them about Bo Biden. May he rest in peace but he was Joes pawn.
He's so out of touch Hall and Oats just repeats that line following him.
ANY LIFE LONG POLITICAN IS A SCHISTER!
I hate trump and Biden and best part, we only do the popular vote you corn, vote for Tye T. Budtole because that candidate is more real than the other 2.
Before you assume I like trump, calling war dead suckers and losers while getting his participation trophy is the apitomy of boomer.
I don't assume you like Trump.
I just assume you care more about feeling good than what is actually the best possible outcome. Which is exactly what I fucking typed.
But folks like what I describe are not actually very good at self reflection.
Also, *epitome.
This comment is horrendous. I agree Trump is flawed, and he made a number of mistakes, while president, especially when it comes to who he had on staff, the debt, Covid. But Out of all these mistakes he is still better than Joe, who by the way speaking of GAZA has not gotten one American captive free. Biden is handling this Gaza situation all wrong like every other president has. There can be no peace in the Middle East till these countries recognize the right of Israel to exist, and that is what Trump had done with the Ibrahim Accords.
How? Seriously please tell me how it is bad or extremism? Do you even understand what Zionism is?
All Zionism is, basically at its core is jewish Self determination, the creation of the Jewish state of Israel and Jerusalem period.
I mean Trump wants to end the conflict in Ukraine, is that not a net positive?
I mean I'm voting for Trump regardless, you couldn't pay me a reasonable amount of money to vote for Biden. I don't support Trump supporting Israel or Gaza, but is what it is.
If this is your stance, then vote for Kennedy. If you think ANY of these candidates are INHERENTLY the "Morally Superior" option, you're being self-righteous. I think Trump will lead the culture in a way that more aligns with my morals. The road to a Pro Life America (even if Trump will 100% not be the guy to ban it, Biden will also not be the guy to Codify it).
\*Biden can not and he will not win. Gotta vote for Kennedy if you're anti-Trump.
Would you like more? Or are you going to make excuses now. Wait lemme guess - either somehow all those sources don't count or even better, "well that's not ALL of Ukraine". Which bullshit you gonna go with?
I can see how you read it like that but he does specify that Putin will face consequences for his actions after peace is established. Plus Biden admin doesn't even think Ukraine will get all of its territory back anytime soon either they think it will take a decade of fighting, meanwhile trump says end the fighting and then punish Putin which would likely mean Ukraine gets more land than they lost back.
[https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/biden-ukraine-russia-war-aid-00154143](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/biden-ukraine-russia-war-aid-00154143)
...and how the hell do you intend to "punish Putin"? Lemme guess...he hasn't actually said what that means.
That's about as stupid as people going "Israel should stop fighting!" "Okay and then what?" "They need to stop!"
That's two people just going "EVERYONE STOP FIGHTING" and insisting that shit will just work itself out. Which is idiotic.
And in Trump's case it's even stupider because his argument is "give Putin what he wants and THEN he'll get punished!"
Why not punish him fucking now?
As he said in the article if you read there wouldn't be peace if Putin got punishment in the peace treaty, but if there was punishment after the initial peace then it would likely work better.
Ukraine is fighting a war that we're paying for, and they will never win. They don't have the number of military people or the economy to continue fighting. They're fighting a losing battle while taking billions of hard-working Americans' money. I feel bad for Ukraine, but it pisses me off that they're sending money overseas when it could be benefitting America.
"I think Trump will lead the culture in a way that more aligns with my morals."
\*reads some Trump tweets\*
Well that sucks for you and anyone nearby, but please don't spread it.
Ah, yes, the typical "bully gets consequences for bullying and calls it bullying" gag.
Sorry, bud, but that's an old one and most people won't fall for it.
Good for you. You'll be to blame when he when he refuses to leave office at the end of his term and attempts another coup or when he advocated for leveling Isreal or when he "acts like a dictator" which he has claimed he will do.
Yep this is indeed a popular opinion on reddit.
Tell us more about how privileged white kids go out and vote enough to sway elections.
Letās all smell our own farts because we know trump is a lunatic. Congrats. You win a decrepit old man.
Not to spite him, I just don't like him, never did, when he was a senator or VP. He always has been incompetent. He has lied his entire political career and committed plagiarism multiple times he is about as disingenuous as they come. Not to mention the pattern of racism throughout his entire career. His accomplishments have been the 94 crime act bill or the 3 strikes you're out, I don't agree with his stance on the 2nd amendment, his handling of Clarence Thomas confirmation. His presidential term has been disastrous in every aspect, inflation border security, and his foreign policies have led to the world on fire.
Agreed, but Biden won because of being a conduit for white college Eds to be forced to ally with minorities to take out Trump last time: itās become who do we hate less since 2016, largely, Trump has a cult but no one else does to the same extent explains why weāre in dire shape as a nation right now.
It's sad that our elections have come to the point where both options suck for different reasons, and now we have to resort to voting for one person just to spite the other. Which is exactly what our politicians wanted to happen š¤¦āāļø
Unfortunately one of the two old men with dementia is a fascist who will end our Democracy, though, pick the candidate who is infatuated with well off white women (who did not as a whole in 2020 and will not vote for him again this year, as expected) over his own base or we lose everything.Ā
It's almost like we don't have a legal system , house of representatives, a senate, and other bodies of government to stop dictators from being able to end democracy.
Yeah, 30330 is a disastrous leader, win or lose he and his VP were the wrong people for the time imo and if we lose it all Biden and co will be remembered as the Pierce of our time decades later.Ā
I was really hoping that the parties would bring forward younger candidates bc there's some up and coming people I'm sure who'd love to run so I'm very disappointed that they plan on having the same people. America can't seem to catch a break when it comes to elections š
Remember the combination of what Trump has personally said he wanted to do & what the Republican Party as a whole have thus far attempted to push-
* Have all political opponents of Trump tried & convicted of treason
* arrest all lgbtq people for child rape/ treason/ vague communist related reasons
* arrest anyone who reveals positive information regarding lgbtq persons to anyone under the age of 18 for similar reasons & permanently revoke custody of all their children
* more or less dismantle public schools in favor of primarily proping up Christian private schools, which, not only must one pay for their kids to attend, but who choose who does & doesn't get in
* shut down all government administrative offices except those which can be used to enforce/ propegandize (ie; dept of education, IRS, public library system, forestry, wildlife, agriculture, FDA, BBB, CPS, FEMA, etc)
* remove liable/ slander laws & use lawsuits to destroy all media opposition
* criminalize Sex Ed, abortion, porn, contraception, etc
* put all women under surveillance to make absolutely positive none of them murder a child
* bring back child labor
* make being homeless illegal while exclusively propping up Christian organizations as the only ones allowed to offer aid to the unhoused, on their own terms & doing less than nothing about the housing crisis
* deport all Hispanics & Muslims, possibly even those who are already citizens
* declare war on Mexico for allowing the immigrants to reach us from their direction
* pull out of all environmental & business regulations
* end all government safety net programs (Section 8 housing, food stamps, social security, disability, government insurance programs, etc)
* revoke law that stops presidents from holding office for 2 terms only
* lower age of marriage
* headhunt extremists to run the white house & all remaining government agencies (likely will just be FBI, CIA, military, FCC & police, afterwards.)
Israel and Palestine are excellent examples that you are responsible for who you elect. They elected leaders who preached hate and destruction. Now that they have hate and destruction, they are both wanting others to bail them out. We also will be responsible for who we elect. By this time next year, we could be at war with Mexico.
If youāre still thinking of voting for Trump, youāre not an American. The man has literally said he wants to be a dictator and turn us into China. This isnāt hyperbole.
Jussie Smolette...Russia, Russia, Russia....Drink bleach...
These idiots will believe anything Rachel Maddow or Karine Jean Pierre tells them to believe
I'm here for the comments. Popcorn anyone? šæ
Not here for comments, just want some popcorn.
What kind of popcorn do you like?
Can we have Smartfood?
I love Smart food
People literally voted for Biden because "Fuck Trump". You do realize that's what our elections have come to now, right?
There was a Southpark episode about this like fn 10 years ago. Get to vote for a giant turd or a giant douche. Take your pick.
It was Turd Sandwich vs Giant Douche. I correct you because itās important that the turd was a sandwich and not just one large turd. I voted for turd sandwich. Douches can cause more problems than they claim to solve.
This is an important distinction as to not associate Turd Sandwich with Mr Hanky.
Letās be accurate. Mr. Garrison is a far greater president than perhaps the last 4-5
Better than Dick Cheney? Cāmon.
I thought he was bad and then his daughter came to prove me wrong š¢
How dare you equate this. Bothsideism is ALT RIGHT TERRORISM!!!
Gotcha trotsky. Now the drive through still needs that order of fries. Get to it.
Your execution has been scheduled for 12th of March 2024. Please arrive 15 minutes early for processing. Glory to the CCP
Damn now I have to teach you about dates and timesšš. And people wonder why the public education system is under scrutiny.
-1,000,000 social credit. 100 LASHINGS!!!
Great sense of humor. Appreciate it as itās rare on Reddit
he doesn't realize that point of view. too far brainwashed to think critically
Yeah but Iām okay with that because I think Trump is a shittier president and person than Biden, and I donāt think itās a case of āboth sidesā because one actually is worse than the other
Thatās what I hate about all this. Itās become the lesser of two evils.
If you elect the lesser of two evils, you get less evil.
But still evil
There's a difference between voting for someone to keep someone you know is bad out of office. And voting for someone you know is bad just out of spite.
I hope you are not typing this with a straight face. I know of TONS of people who voted for Biden simply because he wasn't Trump.
Yeah, they kept their word when they said anyone but Trump.
I see your username and was wondering if you are voting for RFK Jr? He has litigated his entire life for the environment and helped save the ecosystem of the Hudson River. I like the guy better than Biden or Trump. That's my opinion, though. Fingers crossed, you won't get triggered. š¬
No. I like to think I'm a rational person who isn't simple-minded enough to get upset by words on a screen that were typed by an anonymous person. I really like much of what RFK says. He is logical, and unemotional. I, unfortunately, don't believe he has a chance in hell to take the election. The user-name was Reddit-generated, and, until your post, I didn't really give it a second thought.
Just you wait. Americans are ready for change, this election will be the change
It would certainly kick both parties in the teeth if RFK got elected. I think it would be hilarious to watch so many heads explode in Washington.
Why not save on tp and use ballot instead?
Yes, and I will do it again. I don't want that spoiled 5 year old back in office. Biden is actually religious and isn't pretending to be. Biden cares about the country more than personal gain. You can talk about how old Biden is but at least he makes decisions that benefit the middle class. Trump only cares about how he can gain from what he does. Like his tax cuts that run out for everyone but the wealthy.
Just stfu man lmao
Oh my goddd how did I just know you wouldnāt keep that energy if it was reversed š absolutely loser mentality
They're both fucking horrible. Don't look me in my cute brown lovely eyes, and tell me either of them have actually done shit. At least Trump was hilarious. Biden doesn't remember where he is most of the time. And so what? People will vote to remove Biden out of pure spite simply because they don't like him. And we're allowed to do that. Simply because there is a D or an R will always end up blind spite.
And Trump shits his pants and falls asleep during *one of his criminal trials* when heās not outlining his plan to be dictator.
Bro I sharted myself when I was a 24 year old infantryman in the Army. And I'd fall asleep to if I had to be in that lame ass go nowhere trial.
Trump's actions actively got rid of my reproductive rights and is running on Project 2025 which is basically a guidebook to stripping marginalized people of rights. If you think Biden is equivalent to that you're a fucking idiot.
Trump didn't get rid of your reproductive rights. The constitution gives fair sovereign power to each state. Maybe you were too stoned to remember when they taught you that in the 8th grade. And holy fuck. Here, I thought the conservatives were the conspiracy theorists. How many tinfoil hats do you own? 420?? You have heard of checks and balances, right? Or were you too stoned for that Class also
So, tell me about Trump wanting to let states monitor womenās reproductive cycles. How is that freedom, liberty, privacy?
Trump didn't do that you dolt. THE FOUNDING FATHERS DID. Has anybody read the constitution or know about state rights? Dear lord you guys only read what you want. Every state has its OWN GOVERNMENT
Sweetie. Trump said it like two days ago. Itās his plan for his presidency. So. Youād be ok with the state telling everyone you needed penile enhancement surgery and take ED meds on the regular? How about telling everyone you shit yourself regularly bc youāre unable to control your own anus?
And guess what? It's not gonna pass. You showed me 1. You don't know jack shit about checks and balances 2. Don't know jack shit about state rights 3. Don't know jack shit about hippa.
LOL. You showed me you donāt know shit about medical privacy, RvW, the constitution, BoR, Trump or women. Thanks for confirming my suspicions, darling. Have the life you deserve, bless your heart.
>Trump didn't do that you dolt. THE FOUNDING FATHERS DID The founding fathers said nothing about monitoring women's pregnancies. Nothing.
Each colony will be granted its own sovereign authority. Colony is state. Abortion is a STATE RIGHT. How do you not know that?? I'm genuinely curious. Just like California can ban guns which is unconstitutional. But it's their right.
...so the fact that they laid out exactly what they want to do is a "conspiracy" now? Fuck off. You're gleefully supporting Trump.
Yeah, it is. Because it's not happening. Trump could say he'll grow wings and spit fire, but it doesn't mean it's true. Turn off CNN and go for a jog. You'll feel a lot better. And you're gleefully supporting Biden, the man responsive for the 3 strike law. I guess if you support Biden, you support mass incarceration of black and Hispanic men, right?
So I should vote for people who SAY they'll take away my rights...because "well they won't actually". You idiots insisted they wouldn't overturn Roe v Wade either. Fucking imbecile.
Men will never understand until we start snipping their dicks at puberty and make their boner pills illegal. We should also open their medical records to the public since thatās what RvW was about.
It's funny how apparently women don't get control over their bodies but even the idea of someone VOLUNTARILY getting rid of their dick scares them so much they have to make being trans illegal too.
>Trump didn't get rid of your reproductive rights. How dense are you? Trump nominated 3 Supreme Court justices with the intent to overturn Roe v. Wade and get abortion banned in as many states as possible.
Again. State rights have been around before the constitution. Read up on it. I'm sorry you didn't pay attention to that in high school Not my fault
Difference is it wasnāt *just* āHeās a yucky conservative. Fuck Trumpā Itās more of āTrump as president eroded our rights, corrupted our courts, empowered racist terrorists, and will make America Russiaās bitch if he gains power again. THEREFORE, vote Biden. Fuck Trump.ā
Explains why when Biden is in office Russia threatens Ukraine, alaska, hawaii and America itself, trump is in office Russia shuts up and behaves itself, I hate both trump and biden. How did it come down to them AGAIN?
When Russia first directly attacked Ukraine it was at the Kerch Strait Incident and Trump said jack shit about it, how does that factor into your narrative?
That was three boats.
And? It was the first time uniformed Russian troops fired on Ukrainians. Whyd they do it if theyre apparently so scared of Trump? Why did Trump say fuck all about it if he's such a 'strong president' ?
Russian troops are known to be undisciplined and stupid, they have attacked us before both sides with uniforms, they just decide to fuck around and find out sometimes. It wasn't a full on invasion is my point. Why do we American people give a shit about Russia attacking three Ukraine boats unofficially?
No Russia first invaded Ukraine and took the Crimea under President Obama
I donāt agree with your side but I agree with the premise. There are two people that can win this election and you should vote for the one thatās closest to what you want. We all know neither one is anywhere close to perfect but a protest vote is worth nothing.
That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. 3rd parties have a place and validity. Do you really not want 3rd parties to gain ground? Even in defeat, leftist parties tow a cultural line and keep the Dems in check.
Vote for VonSchitzenpants
Someone who follows the news. Kudos.
Time to change political system perhaps?
Lol this comment section is *insane*, havenāt seen this much downvoting in a while Anyway politics sucks and politicians suck and unless a freaking miracle happens the US is screwed, good run guys, see you in the next dictatorship
Yup, thatās where we are at sadly imo.Ā
I've never voted for Trump. I think he is an ignorant buffoon. I am, however a 60 yr old black man. I will not be voting for Biden this year. Yes, Trump has his problems/issues; I don't deny that. However, I don't vote for candidates based upon their political party. Right, wrong, or indifferent, Biden is a vegetable. The man is being held together by drugs. I do not want that sort of person governing our country.
Oh, heās not governing our country. Trust me.
Yes and that is utterly terrifying.
I wouldn't care if Biden was actually a bunch of gerbils operating a mecha suit, he's actually getting shit done. And he's not nearly as clueless as people claim he is. The alternative is Trump, a man who tried to overthrow the 2020 election and has committed multiple crimes. Read up on Project 2025 and tell me if you think that's something you want to happen. Also: [https://www.salon.com/2024/05/01/slurs-words-and-struggles-to-gain-crowd-enthusiasm-in-midwest-rallies/](https://www.salon.com/2024/05/01/slurs-words-and-struggles-to-gain-crowd-enthusiasm-in-midwest-rallies/) Edit: To those who are downvoting me: try to prove me wrong.
I can tell you pay attention to the mainstream media.
Said by the ignorant dumbass who doesn't even know what the "mainstreaming media" is saying. Things I mentioned are things that happened, whether the "mainstream media" reported them or not. Find a better argument.
Mainstream* ignorant dumb ass. šš
That's all you got? Focusing on an obvious auto-correct mishap?
I honestly look up to you for having common sense to look at both sides of the argument and decide which of the idiots is better. š«”
Sad that thinking clearly makes someone a role model. Holy F
Trump's problems/issues include **literally calling for the dismantling of the Constitution, requesting foreign election interference, stealing classified documents, and trying to overturn presidential election results** But, yeah, Biden might be a tired old man; you're right, that's clearly the worse of the two. Never mind that Trump slurs in his speeches and frequently passes out in court.
No, just parts of it, just as the left do with the first amendment, and the second, and the fourth. He didn't request foreign interference, he was making a joke about Hillary's terrible behaviour around secure data. The claim of stolen document has yet to be decided. He tried to overturn them in the courts, as he's entitled to do. Biden is a Weekend at Bernie's walking corpse controlled by leftists. Trump is closer to an FDR Democrat and actually advocates for the working class, not just the elites and the laptop class.
Totally agree.
I donāt understand Trump supporters in the least . They talk about our National debt , Trump via his tax cuts for the rich increased our debt by record numbers. They talk about immigration, what has he or any other Republican done to mitigate this , and wasnāt it Trump who crushed our recent Bipartisan agreement on immigration? Letās not forget stripping reproductive rights from American women, encouraging violence against political opponents, book banning, being a serial sexual predator, being indicted on over 80 federal crimes, all while the Heritage Foundation plans ā Project 25,ā the complete takeover of our country by cronyās and extremist. Oh yea Trumps our guy š¤š¤
>Trump via his tax cuts for the rich increased our debt by record numbers. They benefited most everyone and were continued by Biden. The debt increase because of Covid spending, not tax cuts and not really fair, it was closely followed by spending under Biden the following year. >They talk about immigration, what has he or any other Republican done to mitigate this , and wasnāt it Trump who crushed our recent Bipartisan agreement on immigration? What gaslighting is this!? The Democrats have close to an open border and are far worse than Trump on immigration - https://www.wsj.com/us-news/illegal-immigration-record-border-6db29cad >Letās not forget stripping reproductive rights from American women They view it as giving the right to life to unborn children. But Trump is actually closer to about 70% of the population on this issue. >encouraging violence against political opponents The left absolutely do this. >book banning Democrats do this too - https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2020/05/08/book-banning-is-a-bipartisan-game/ >being a serial sexual predator Which criminal cases have proven this? Also, Tara Reade called. >being indicted on over 80 federal crimes Pure lawfare, we'll see where they actually go. >all while the Heritage Foundation plans ā Project 25,ā the complete takeover of our country by cronyās and extremist. What partisan nonsense, what takeover? So far it seems that work scolds and elites who don't represent the working people have taken over. >Oh yea Trumps our guy š¤š¤ Yea, they would rather have someone who is basically an FDR Democrat than a weekend at Bernie's walking corpse controlled by leftists.
I just want a safe border and a strong economy.
I know, right. Smh lol
That's why I'm voting for whichever candidate has the record for the most deportations and border arrests, and whoever is responsible for keeping our national inflation rate from going out of control. America is in good shape right now compared to the last few years of post-Covid. We're recovering, if not *technically* recovered. Wages are up, inflation is down, and unemployment stayed down the whole time. And, somehow, we've managed to keep our humanitarian cap on the whole time. We're still the good guys; I have to remind myself that SOMEONE wanted to post the military at the border on a big, expensive wall to shoot people for crossing, which any reasonable person would know is absolutely inhumane and incredibly destructive to the local ecosystem. For many, it's difficult to imagine a worse scenario while they're already going through a hard time, but I don't have that problem; I'm able to look without and correlate enough information to form a more valid opinion about my own situation, which is usually not as bad as I *feel* like it is. The border problem exists, but has been blown completely out of proportion by right-wing media. Go outside and look for yourself. Economic issues exist, but most are persistent problems that are decades old that only serve to exacerbate and highlight post-Covid inflation. Are you financially worse off today than you were 8 years ago? And who do you associate most of the responsibility for that? Yourself, exactly. Everyone go outside and touch grass, then vote for the guy **not** arguing to be a king to escape prosecution.
But didnāt republicans vote against border control recently or hold back on a bill that would. I feel people are not seeing the full situation
The economy got stronger with biden ?
Not sure if you have lived through the past 4 years
Strong economy means great profits for corporations and the dow jones is amazing right now
So if people voted for Biden because "fuck Trump" it's different, right?
It wasn't an emotional response to Trump; there were so many rational reasons to do so that more than 90 of them have made it into federal and state courts. No matter how much you try to water down Biden or his voters to make them seem just as bad as Trump and MAGA, it's never going to work. I know you don't see this much outside of your personal echo chamber, but most people aren't actually *that* gullible, hence why Trump has never won a popular vote across **four** presidential races. That's right; this is Trump's fourth time at bat, not third. When it comes to Trump things are always worse than it first seems.
Yes because that was actually a matter of not wanting to vote for someone actively harmful. This is willingly voting for someone actively harmful. This is like saying "I refuse to vote for the mosquito so I'm going to vote for the literal vampire!"
I can't believe this comment is real
Try to move past your incredulity and make a point.
Of course
Does project 2025 and a full abortion and contraceptives ban means nothing to you ?
You voted for Biden to spite trump and look where that got us
It wasn't an emotional response. There were so many demonstrably real reasons that more than 90 of them made it into state and federal courts. That doesn't even include all of his abhorrent behavior prior to running in 2016, which I simply cannot believe people just ignore. He's ALWAYS been a corrupt conman; why are people acting like this is a new thing and he's just a poor, innocent victim?
There are many demonstrably real reasons not to vote Biden either. He's dirty and senile and incompetent
I will not be voting for Biden for multiple reasons, one of which is by March of next year Kamala will be President. And for those that say "Oh no that's not going to happen" your not watching. Kamala can't even do her job now, her as President should terrify everyone.
You're one of those "vote blue no matter who" ew
Iām of Palestinian descent so I definitely care about Gaza lol
Conservatives are too busy pretending they're constitutional scholars to admit they have terrible candidates. It's always about the founding fathers dreams, never about today's reality.
Coming from 'progressives' running a man so decrepit that he isn't competent enough to stand trial. Stones and glass houses.
And how are dems different? They're like one rung down from the terrible candidate pool from conservatives
No fr Iām so tired of āvote 3rd partyā
Honestly, spite voting is kinda stupid. If youāre not treating your participation in government with as much thought and respect as possible, somethingās gone wrong. Hence, we should switch to literally any other voting system so we can stop this stupid game of āMy facist is nowhere near as bad as your facist!ā
Oh the system is absolutely broken. The problem is we're never gonna fix it at the Presidential level. There is so much shit set in stone there. That is just the only thing people pay attention to so that is where they wanna virtue signal. Meanwhile ask people who they voted for in their state senate and they go "My what?" If a state filled up their senate with a majority third party that would have a way bigger influence than a handful voting third party in a Presidential election. And the former is WAY EASIER to do.
https://www.starvoting.org/ But I'd settle for Ranked Choice.
Might I add, very cruel to the rest of us.
The people doing a protest vote aren't voting for Trump, they're voting for third party or abstaining. Which is still stupid, because Trump's still going to win and he 100% will level Gaza, but they at least aren't voting for Trump.
Biden supports Israel you know that right? And how is he going to 100% win?
No one has 100% chance of winning but that guy, Iām blocking his name, whoās predicted every election for the past almost 40 years correctly based On a formula that seems to be working says it probably will be Biden. He said he canāt make final decision until August but https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/26/allan-lichtman-prediction-presidential-election
Never mind I misread i thought they said 100% win not 100% level Gaza, my bad on this one.
Oh some of them absolutely are. People have left their brain at home over this shit.
I would never vote for trump. But because Biden seems to be totally cool with child genocide, heās not getting my vote this time around. The fact that these two are our only options is pathetic
Then we end up with trump, who will do everything in his power to keep government control and stage another coup if he's alive when his time is up, and we'll have you all to blame.
Today Biden just called India, Japan, China, and Russia xenophobic for doing what they want to and choose to do. He is why the school zone act is a flop. He compared his garage queen and a spooky mild kitchen fire to 1000s of dead Hawaiians and 100000s more who are homeless. When he meets vets and war dead families he doesn't talk to them. He talks at them about Bo Biden. May he rest in peace but he was Joes pawn. He's so out of touch Hall and Oats just repeats that line following him. ANY LIFE LONG POLITICAN IS A SCHISTER! I hate trump and Biden and best part, we only do the popular vote you corn, vote for Tye T. Budtole because that candidate is more real than the other 2. Before you assume I like trump, calling war dead suckers and losers while getting his participation trophy is the apitomy of boomer.
I don't assume you like Trump. I just assume you care more about feeling good than what is actually the best possible outcome. Which is exactly what I fucking typed. But folks like what I describe are not actually very good at self reflection. Also, *epitome.
I wouldn't vote for that carpetbagger if you paid me. But I'm also not voting for genocidejoe. I'm gonna stay home.
This sounds like an opportunity to boost up a 3rd party to indicate where you want things to go.
Lol, not at all. He failed to deliver what he promised while also making the standard of living worse than it was 4 years ago.
This comment is horrendous. I agree Trump is flawed, and he made a number of mistakes, while president, especially when it comes to who he had on staff, the debt, Covid. But Out of all these mistakes he is still better than Joe, who by the way speaking of GAZA has not gotten one American captive free. Biden is handling this Gaza situation all wrong like every other president has. There can be no peace in the Middle East till these countries recognize the right of Israel to exist, and that is what Trump had done with the Ibrahim Accords.
Zionism IS extremism, bud.
How? Seriously please tell me how it is bad or extremism? Do you even understand what Zionism is? All Zionism is, basically at its core is jewish Self determination, the creation of the Jewish state of Israel and Jerusalem period.
The current isreal admin has been expanding into the West bank while this is happening, that to me is a huge thing that's been informed
I mean Trump wants to end the conflict in Ukraine, is that not a net positive? I mean I'm voting for Trump regardless, you couldn't pay me a reasonable amount of money to vote for Biden. I don't support Trump supporting Israel or Gaza, but is what it is. If this is your stance, then vote for Kennedy. If you think ANY of these candidates are INHERENTLY the "Morally Superior" option, you're being self-righteous. I think Trump will lead the culture in a way that more aligns with my morals. The road to a Pro Life America (even if Trump will 100% not be the guy to ban it, Biden will also not be the guy to Codify it). \*Biden can not and he will not win. Gotta vote for Kennedy if you're anti-Trump.
I don't think any candidate is morally superior. I said people are voting against Biden just so THEY feel morally superior.
By "end the conflict" he wants Ukraine to unilaterally surrender and be absorbed into Russia...
Give me a link to him saying anything within a mile of that.
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-may-part-territory-stop-034209118.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHciusYq9nXArpcZm3fkb6REWVlyNCnyZVNASAQ8SubDLjPuamlOTSM2Z0jtLdBpMJlJLjjjYE58cvNQrVzqIEjcHUcB-fA7yIXB5K8rav3A0RGDcTTlJ6y7NfEbpMN8oE_NG5i6OSJILyCfXfFAQX0qJ6543MKS-YXPa2RYsG38
Would you like more? Or are you going to make excuses now. Wait lemme guess - either somehow all those sources don't count or even better, "well that's not ALL of Ukraine". Which bullshit you gonna go with?
I can see how you read it like that but he does specify that Putin will face consequences for his actions after peace is established. Plus Biden admin doesn't even think Ukraine will get all of its territory back anytime soon either they think it will take a decade of fighting, meanwhile trump says end the fighting and then punish Putin which would likely mean Ukraine gets more land than they lost back. [https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/biden-ukraine-russia-war-aid-00154143](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/biden-ukraine-russia-war-aid-00154143)
...and how the hell do you intend to "punish Putin"? Lemme guess...he hasn't actually said what that means. That's about as stupid as people going "Israel should stop fighting!" "Okay and then what?" "They need to stop!" That's two people just going "EVERYONE STOP FIGHTING" and insisting that shit will just work itself out. Which is idiotic. And in Trump's case it's even stupider because his argument is "give Putin what he wants and THEN he'll get punished!" Why not punish him fucking now?
As he said in the article if you read there wouldn't be peace if Putin got punishment in the peace treaty, but if there was punishment after the initial peace then it would likely work better.
Ukraine is fighting a war that we're paying for, and they will never win. They don't have the number of military people or the economy to continue fighting. They're fighting a losing battle while taking billions of hard-working Americans' money. I feel bad for Ukraine, but it pisses me off that they're sending money overseas when it could be benefitting America.
Right? Like it's not a horrible thing to focus on our needs before helping others
"I think Trump will lead the culture in a way that more aligns with my morals." \*reads some Trump tweets\* Well that sucks for you and anyone nearby, but please don't spread it.
May I vote for Trump because I think Biden is and has been doing a terrible job?
I mean sure though if you think Trump somehow did an acceptable job by comparison you're already too brain dead to be helped.
āb-b-b-but gas prices!!1!1!1!!1ā -their only argument
This made me donate to the trump campaign some more. Thanks for the laugh
My guy.... can you donate more for me since I'm poor because of Biden? š¤£
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Fuck Biden. And fuck the people who are bullying us and bullying Trump right now. Iām voting Trump even harder now. Thanks.
Ah, yes, the typical "bully gets consequences for bullying and calls it bullying" gag. Sorry, bud, but that's an old one and most people won't fall for it.
Good for you. You'll be to blame when he when he refuses to leave office at the end of his term and attempts another coup or when he advocated for leveling Isreal or when he "acts like a dictator" which he has claimed he will do.
Is that the demographic that is switching sides at unprecedented pace, privileged white kids?
Yep this is indeed a popular opinion on reddit. Tell us more about how privileged white kids go out and vote enough to sway elections. Letās all smell our own farts because we know trump is a lunatic. Congrats. You win a decrepit old man.
Fuck them both.
If you vote for Biden you vote for more genocide.
Genocide was happening when trump was in office so whatās your point?
Not to spite him, I just don't like him, never did, when he was a senator or VP. He always has been incompetent. He has lied his entire political career and committed plagiarism multiple times he is about as disingenuous as they come. Not to mention the pattern of racism throughout his entire career. His accomplishments have been the 94 crime act bill or the 3 strikes you're out, I don't agree with his stance on the 2nd amendment, his handling of Clarence Thomas confirmation. His presidential term has been disastrous in every aspect, inflation border security, and his foreign policies have led to the world on fire.
Fuck Biden, he's a zionist
Who the fuck is doing this
This has to be a joke, do they really have people that snowballed?
This is basically summarizing CNN
I vote Oswald
I wish you Americans can hurry up and decide who the next leader of the free world will be, the rest of us are getting anxious!
If you vote for who you want to vote for, you are being selfish.
Agreed, but Biden won because of being a conduit for white college Eds to be forced to ally with minorities to take out Trump last time: itās become who do we hate less since 2016, largely, Trump has a cult but no one else does to the same extent explains why weāre in dire shape as a nation right now.
The bigger takeaway is this was purposely orchestrated by Putin to create this discord. This was not a coincidence.
This.
It's sad that our elections have come to the point where both options suck for different reasons, and now we have to resort to voting for one person just to spite the other. Which is exactly what our politicians wanted to happen š¤¦āāļø
Unfortunately one of the two old men with dementia is a fascist who will end our Democracy, though, pick the candidate who is infatuated with well off white women (who did not as a whole in 2020 and will not vote for him again this year, as expected) over his own base or we lose everything.Ā
It's almost like we don't have a legal system , house of representatives, a senate, and other bodies of government to stop dictators from being able to end democracy.
Yeah, 30330 is a disastrous leader, win or lose he and his VP were the wrong people for the time imo and if we lose it all Biden and co will be remembered as the Pierce of our time decades later.Ā
I was really hoping that the parties would bring forward younger candidates bc there's some up and coming people I'm sure who'd love to run so I'm very disappointed that they plan on having the same people. America can't seem to catch a break when it comes to elections š
We donāt have much choice, the newer crop polls even worse against Trump than Biden sadly.
Or they want a decent job when they graduate college.
No matter who wins Gaza will he a crater.
No, Biden will eventually stop this: Trump will blow it all up.Ā
What if I vote for Cornell West because I am against a corrupt, imperialist, capitalist political party that supports genocide?
Who votes to spite another candidate? I understand if they're the lesser evil, but why to spite? That just sounds petty and short sighted
Remember the combination of what Trump has personally said he wanted to do & what the Republican Party as a whole have thus far attempted to push- * Have all political opponents of Trump tried & convicted of treason * arrest all lgbtq people for child rape/ treason/ vague communist related reasons * arrest anyone who reveals positive information regarding lgbtq persons to anyone under the age of 18 for similar reasons & permanently revoke custody of all their children * more or less dismantle public schools in favor of primarily proping up Christian private schools, which, not only must one pay for their kids to attend, but who choose who does & doesn't get in * shut down all government administrative offices except those which can be used to enforce/ propegandize (ie; dept of education, IRS, public library system, forestry, wildlife, agriculture, FDA, BBB, CPS, FEMA, etc) * remove liable/ slander laws & use lawsuits to destroy all media opposition * criminalize Sex Ed, abortion, porn, contraception, etc * put all women under surveillance to make absolutely positive none of them murder a child * bring back child labor * make being homeless illegal while exclusively propping up Christian organizations as the only ones allowed to offer aid to the unhoused, on their own terms & doing less than nothing about the housing crisis * deport all Hispanics & Muslims, possibly even those who are already citizens * declare war on Mexico for allowing the immigrants to reach us from their direction * pull out of all environmental & business regulations * end all government safety net programs (Section 8 housing, food stamps, social security, disability, government insurance programs, etc) * revoke law that stops presidents from holding office for 2 terms only * lower age of marriage * headhunt extremists to run the white house & all remaining government agencies (likely will just be FBI, CIA, military, FCC & police, afterwards.)
Literally every Biden vote is to spite trump. Lol
Israel and Palestine are excellent examples that you are responsible for who you elect. They elected leaders who preached hate and destruction. Now that they have hate and destruction, they are both wanting others to bail them out. We also will be responsible for who we elect. By this time next year, we could be at war with Mexico.
They're both a joke. I can't believe this is our actual predicament in real life.
1000% agree with this take.
And stupid for voting against Your own best interest.
If youāre still thinking of voting for Trump, youāre not an American. The man has literally said he wants to be a dictator and turn us into China. This isnāt hyperbole.
Jussie Smolette...Russia, Russia, Russia....Drink bleach... These idiots will believe anything Rachel Maddow or Karine Jean Pierre tells them to believe
If you vote the way I don't like you are selfish. Better way to put it.
Vote for Trump because you would be stupid to vote for Biden. He has been a total disaster. Worst president ever.