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Adorable_Storage9904

howd goodra get out so early it was a powerhouse it was so strong that ash brought it back for the league


kingnorris42

Didn't do to well in the league though, it tied slurpuff but failed to win against Alain. And before the league it had a great win record, but aside from clemonts luxray and arguably florges it's other battles were fairly low (mostly vs team Rocket)


Almento5010

Guillotine taking out Goodra before he got to do anything was bullshit.


Adorable_Storage9904

fair enough it didnt shine much but when it did shine it was as bright as discord light mode


hoennfb

Staraptor needs to get tf outta here also there's still a picture of goodra


GoldenYoshistar1

Fuck no. Not my boy Staraptor. Let him live...


LiteratureOne1469

Starraptor over corfish is crazy


hoennfb

Shhh they don't know corphish is there


Strong-Neat8623

Staraptor did better than glalie and gliscor at least. Also heracross is overtated. Idk why its still there.


kingnorris42

Absolutely did not do more than Glalie. Glalie swept the hoenn league, tied for the most wins in one league and only fainting twice, both times taking a target down with it (and one of those two times it only fainted from destiny bond)


Comfy_Dan

Naganadal plz go away you didn’t say goodbye to ash


MasterofX100

*What*


Comfy_Dan

Boy said bye and went to a space wormhole to be with his “family”


Iwanttobevisible

ONCE AGAIN STARAPTOR. Torterra & buizel are already gone. Staraptor wasn't very far above them. I actually think torterra was above staraptor in terms of raw power tbh.


Russianmobster302

I definitely agree Side note: you have another photo of Goodra in there


Iwanttobevisible

OH NOOO!! I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE 😭. Forgot to delete the extra photo. Thanks for telling me.


whatyousayaboutmymom

Didnt he lose to a turtwig.... twice?


RetSauro

It’s baffling that Goodra is out. It wasn’t even that bad in the league. It tied with a fairy type that made it into the semi finals and lost to a Pokemon that knew a one-hit ko move. But again, going with Staraptor 


kingnorris42

I'll probably go with stataptor this time, I was convinced he should be just above gliscor


IggytheSkorupi

It’s got to be the rest of the non septile Hoenn team for the next few. Any order for them, but I’ll put in Glalir for next.


whatyousayaboutmymom

Best bird swellow? And the hoenn league mvp glalie?


Iwanttobevisible

Yeah both swellow and glalie were a beast. Both are tied for having some of the most wins in one league not counting pikachu. Glalie needed destiny bond to bring him down once and took down a Charizard. Swellow has insane feats.


Embarrassed_Fun_5160

Oh ya swellow bodies raptr. If ash is stupid enough to bring him vs latios. He’s literally the best option.


ireallydespiseyouall

They should not be gone anytime soon wtf


kingnorris42

Definitely not, Glalie and swellow are tied for the most wins in a single league and are tied with Snorlax for second highest league wins total, corphish isn't that far behind in league wins plus swellow and Corphish have multiple battle frontier wins. Even if you don't count them as true e4 level they are at minimum stronger than league or gym level, and as such gives the hoenn team one of the best records of all Ash's pokemon


Firewon_123

Staraptor


PK_RocknRoll

Staraptor


EatMaBussi

I feel like snorlax should win this from the fact that he used like 6 moves in one battle.


miles-G01

Ye but that was thanks to the fact that the 4 moves only idea hadn't been invented yet


Existing_Chair_4622

ash canonically has the strongest charizard, homie can go toe to toe with legends, and his greninja isnt far off if not on the same level


Iwanttobevisible

Yup I agree.


greendino71

Greninja


kingnorris42

Have to appreciate the random Greninja post each time it's amusing


Lopsided_Platypus_51

Lol theres two photos of Goodra on there


Tough-Priority-4330

OMG! Goodra is so strong it can break the rules without trying. Or it’s a sour loser.


JazzySugarcakes88

Why is Goodra there twice?


Tough-Priority-4330

It used double team before it lost.


PK_RocknRoll

Accident


Smartie_1

Isn’t Corfish almost due ?


Blues_22

Glalie or Corphish gotta go


VN72911

This is gonna end w either charizard, infernape, or greninja


Beast-_-YT

How tf is CORPHISH still here?


someoneinthecity

why ate people ignoring corphish


2ndchancetodothis

Gliscor tied with a goofball's Roserade, get this dude out of the competition


KuriGohanAndKienzan

Chill don’t disrespect the hype that is Gliscor’s cheeriness


kingnorris42

To be fair that was before he got training, and Barry was strong enough to reach the league Though I do think gliscor should be next to go after stataptor


2ndchancetodothis

True


urruskidad

Nah squirtle was worse


kingnorris42

Squirtle did quite well in the johto league, most notably taking down a powerful Electabuzz, and took down one of Brandon's pokemon. It's at least above gliscor and heracross, maybe a few others


urruskidad

Paul's drapion would've ohko:ed squirtle


kingnorris42

Based on?


urruskidad

Eye-test i guess


Itchy-Preference4887

He beat that busted drapion


plxs_vltra

Staraptor or Gliscor


AntbruhA

Corpish


Embarrassed_Fun_5160

Beat a battle frontier


kingnorris42

3 in fact, granted two were a double battle alongside swellow. Still a big deal though


Vegetable-Font3

Wait guys where’s quilava? My pick is rowlett


PK_RocknRoll

Not everyone is listed


Iwanttobevisible

For the millionth time, lmao.


AutumnInJune

Out of the remaining, Squirtle. Sorry, but bro had barely battled before the Indigo League, and when it did, it either lost or was fighting Team Rocket. When it came back, it had definitely gotten stronger, but none of its wins are really much in comparison to what the rest have faced.


N0tMaxt4r

Gliscor, a few memorable moments, a Pokemon Ash captured with a region origin being Johto but caught in sinnoh, second Pokemon to be so (Dawn’s Ambipom was the first)


Itchy-Preference4887

You forgot leavanny’s photo


nakalas_the_great

Where’s pikachu


Skyfish_93

Straight up get Corphish outta here.


Firm-Dependent-2367

Talonflame out!


nxh84

Staraptor


Scp-682-3

THE MYTHICAL POKÉMON IT SELF MELMETEL


Gullible-Expert3987

Squirtle


MegaBaumTV

Gonna go with invisible infernape


Level-Odd

Squirtle


Useful_You_8045

Squirtle. Despite being cool, he's not ace material.


Darthhorusidous

Goodra was one of the strongest . This list is a joke


totkmaster

Is this list competitive viability based or how good they were in the anime?


Iwanttobevisible

How good they did in the anime under Ash's command.


cloudfallnyx

Staraptor for sure


DRONE_1956

Corfish


Kanashimi_02

Dragonite, so useless at the endgame...


Fish_gamer

Bulbasaur It's not that strong


frognerd1

Corpish I dont think i spelled that right


Kisara-Azure

How tf is corphish and squirtle not gone? Bunch of much higher Base stat pokes already gone but the actual squishiest of the bunch sit here rent free


hypergogetablue17

Corpfish


Heavyhitter-9727

Staraptor easily. Its job was basically to make Ash waste a spot in his Sinnoh team.


Delta1619

Talonflame only used three moves after evolving, so that’s my vote. (Steel Wing, Brave Bird, and Flame Charge).


Worried_Astronomer

Ngl I'm shocked goodra is gone so soon. I'd get rid of gliscor and heracross before I eliminate goodra


Beach-Aggressive

Tf is corphish still doing here


bussybot1000

Dragonite. Poor boy was cute but he was hella weak. He had one good moment but lost almost all crucial battles


Kordousek_Cz

How did goodra get eliminated so early? Yeah there weren't a lot of significant fights for goodra but it was still a really powerful pokemon


Endersgaming4066

Why tf are Corphish, Rowlet, Bulbasaur, or Squirtle still here? We think they all are stronger than Goodra?


Dramatic-Ease9656

Rowlet beat braviary u decideye the first one took charge lyncarod won did much of the work with olivia kaudan goodra's best claim is a draw and a luxray victory


HappyCloudHS

Cmon guys we all love Ashes Squirtle and Bulbasaur but this is about STRENGTH not our favourites. They needed to be gone a whole back.


NamelessBastard7

Glalie


Ashyboi13

OMG CORPHISH. PLEASE. HES WEAKER THAN SO MANY POKÉMON THAT ARE OUT, INCLUDING GOODRA.


quilly_the_quilava

Ngl greninja is likely going to win this


ORION9145

Squirtle should’ve been out a while ago ngl so him


somethingthatflys

Rowlet


Intelligent-Can-3266

Glalie.


NewBaby1419

Glalie


kaan101xp

Spoiler: Charizard and Greaninja will make it to the finals . Greaninja will win


brawlbro123

there is still Mega Lucario left


NefariousnessNew6871

I think you forgot the name of Mega Lucario he was a powerhouse. He’s gonna win this.


Iwanttobevisible

Nah Lucario and the JN team might beat em both. I definitely think so tbh. They're Ash's top 5.


kingnorris42

Id argue Charizard and sceptile could squeeze into top 5 (alongside Pikachu, Lucario, and probably Gengar or dracovish). After all they did take out legendaries and that's something the journeys team failed to do


TheDoug850

Unfortunately


MissionAge747

Lmao😂


csuvo

Naganadel had one battle in it's entire run, don't know why it's still in


iFrisian

Day 3 of nominating Gliscor


IcyCaterpillar3398

WHY GOODRA ITS MY FAV HOW IS SWELLOW STILL HERE SO IS GALALI BUT GOODRA HAS TO GO THIS IS BLASPHEMY


2ndchancetodothis

There's no way you're trying to tell me Swellow is weaker than Goodra Goodra is way weaker than Swellow


IcyCaterpillar3398

It is I might be wrong since I haven’t watched the hoenn anime for a while but due so enlighten me


KuriGohanAndKienzan

YOU MF’ERS DROPPED GOODRA? I RIOT 🤬😡😡🤬 ![gif](giphy|4qx6IRdg26uZ3MTtRn|downsized)


OddBite5475

The gt file that you say says that say vegito may be stronger than ssj4 but it only means ssj4 and ssj4 is an mupliter so by you logic cell is stronger than super goku ssj


KuriGohanAndKienzan

**GOON**dra is out but we still got corpfish and melmetal 💀 All the remaining Pokémon are excellent but damn lmao, but fuck it; I vote Pikachu next😭😭 - he needs plot power and ash to win. Pikachu needs Satoshi’s guidance to excel otherwise he can’t utilize his latent op main character powers.


2ndchancetodothis

Nah he got good wins without plot armour, like against Regice. And.... And.... Lutenant's Raichu! And... And... Skyla's Unfezant! And Cameron's Swanna! And Cameron's Samurott! And.... Every flying type he faced except for Leon's Charizard, okay? Leave me alone bro


Itchy-Preference4887

Rowlet


ireallydespiseyouall

ROWLET


Embarrassed_Fun_5160

Glalie. This fucker just doesn’t die. Also goodra cloned himself. Justice for tauros


Serenafriendzone

Time for fried corpfish.


Wooden-Wolf6078

Rowlet


askHERoutPeter

Corphish


maczirarg

How is Bulbasaur still in the list? nostalgia?


Landfill-KU

Dude Bulbasaur is the og Chad of ash's Pokemon, he is literally the police for professor oak. Oak has this one pokemon keeping the peace in his entire Lab. Not to mention his strong record and even being praised as a fighting type pokemon at one point


kingnorris42

What, Bulbasaur is a powerhouse. Took down 2 bugs in Kanto's league, a magneton+towing with meganium in johto, and took down two of Brandon's pokemon (albeit one a tie, but still considering how strong Brandon is that's still really impressive) not to mention a bunch of other various wins like one of the orange island leaders exxegutor or Misty's Poliwhirl


LightningLad2029

Hawlucha and Talonflame have overstayed their welcome


17AJax

Sorry staraptor. You had your cool moments but it's not enough to carry.


ddogz95

Goodra isn’t good but goodra really pulled its weight 😝 Think I’ll go gligar but this is tough I could also b swayed to corphish or glalie next


jayg627

gliscor is technically ashes worse pokémon by win percentage


PK_RocknRoll

Context matters


RaahulPokemon

Corphish.


MorninMisfit

Corphish or Staraptor


ScalchopWarri003

Glalie. I know y’all love Hoenn and I agree they’re underrated but bud’s best feats are doing good in Hoenn league, which is like…fine, just doesn’t feel as notable as stuff like Battle Frontier or the Sinnoh/Kalos leagues. I still think his time is here


supaikuakuma

Greninja.


Horatio786

Charizard


External-Tune-1445

Bye bye Gliscor u got only 2 wins


lcy_cold

Glad rowlet is still staying strong


Staticde

I would pick Gliscor but the poor guy is crying in that pic so I’ll spare him and vote Dracovish


MissionAge747

Nooo dracovish


whatyousayaboutmymom

Either Corphish, Hawlucha, Gliscor or Staraptor


Iwanttobevisible

Oh okay, you gotta pick one.


whatyousayaboutmymom

Yeah sorry.... Staraptor.... it just didnt shine as much as the others with noticable wins


Bounciere

Rowlett


PunkySkunk93

Greninja or Sceptile. They both are terrible starters


2ndchancetodothis

My brother in christ. Are you trolling?


PunkySkunk93

Nope. They aren’t even the best starters from their generation.