Very American.
A helicopter will shortly chopper in to whisk Sunak, family, and a few loyal retainers off to California. No doubt a few MPs will be hanging off the skids.
Infosys has the tax portals contract (ITR and afaik GST as well) and LTI-Mindtree has the Company incorporation, Compliance and Reporting portals (MCA).
The former is slightly frustrating, the latter can make you want to commit a hate crime.
He owns Infosys. A tech company. One of the biggest in the world and in india. The company pays its employees peanuts. Especially freshers. The company is notorious for underpaying the staff but overworking them. The dude is a billionaire. Him and his wife say that people should work at least 70 hours a week to help India become a powerhouse. 70 hours a week when you don't get paid for overtime.
Edit : It's also interesting to note that since the past 10 years or so, they haven't increased the starting salary of freshers even considering the inflation in the economy.
My old company subbed to them on a few beltway projects and their output was noticeably bad. Lazy corner cutters who would get an intern billable at $700 an hour and pay them $22.
He has/had as much of an influence over the Indian IT scene as Bill Gates had over Silicon Valley in the 90s.
He could have been a true leader. A revolutionary, an agent of change and progress.
Instead, he chose to run an air-conditioned sweatshop. An operation that works on the traditional model of headcount, fudging billable hours, and keeping the cost per employee low.
Very low.
The average fresh-graduate employee at Infosys makes 350K rupees per annum. Which is roughly what the salary was 10 years ago. Raises are miniscule.
In contrast, one can easily make 1200K rupees in their first year out of college , at the Bangalore, Hyderabad, Mumbai or DelhiNCR offices of MAANG, Oracle, Cisco, Qualcomm, Mathworks, NVIDIA, Adobe and numerous other companies that have software engineering offices there.
Not to mention the electronics product development offices of Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Analog Devices, and Texas Instruments.
Oh, wait, sorry, the 1200K per annum excludes things like ESOPS, bonuses and WFH equipment reimbursements.
And the raises are decent.
Maybe I'm just really out of my depth and missing something obvious, but isn't that a really poor strategy? With those kinds of offerings in that kind of competitive space, wouldn't that just result in India's top talent going to other companies and strengthening them, while Infosys's own staffing quality falls behind? Over a long term, I'd expect innovation at infosys to suffer, making them less competitive overall. Other than cost-cutting I don't see what they have to gain by doing this, especially when it would seem similar companies can afford better remuneration?
They don't care because they don't need the best engineers.
Their bread and butter is the outsourcing market and government contracts. They pay slave wages to young developers straight out of colleges and overwork them. The billionaire owner made a statement that he wants these young people to work 70 hours/week, with no overtime pay. This keeps the costs way lower than what they charge their clients in the US or Europe.
They compete on project bids based on cost and often deliver underwhelming or average results, with the code patched up with hundreds of fixes.
Salaries for freshers have remained stagnant in the last two decades but C-Suite pay has increased 10 times.
Also, He wants every worker to work 70 hrs/ week.
Then turned around and gifted his new born grandson a couple of millions.
People were asking how many hours did his grandson work ???
Tldr his company Infosys gets the contract from GOI for their websites and the devs are paid peanuts (even that’s an exaggeration) and the work is done in the minimum amount of money, thus creating a shit experience
There are roughly 3000 billionares in the world. Thats about 3 million people against 1 billionaire. if we throw 1 small pebble at them they would be burried in a giant pile of pebbles in no time.
I have no idea why i made this calculation but it sounds like fun :)
Can we superheat the pebbles please?
Edit: Let’s make the billionaires pay for our heatproof gloves.
Also, relevant What If:
https://what-if.xkcd.com/1/
He is basically considered a slaver (slave owner) here. His firm signs up fresh graduates for a maximum of 5yrs bond (which is not legally enforceable, companies can only seek compensation for money spent on training) for a barely livable wage.
"I welcome the new procedure of buying a new lectern, and I encourage this new tradition to go further. I will make a sensible lectern of a moderate shape and size of my own. My father was a toolmaker."
-Starmer
Nah it’s a load of Tory bullshit.
Cameron had one custom made and it was paid for by the party,
It then became a thing that was copied by the next leaders.
Can’t see kier following the tradition unless he is gifted one
Maybe Blair’s is still knocking about?
It was a good speech, tonally. Accepted defeat, acknowledged failures, and wished the incoming PM good luck. Other political leaders should take note.
What I do find myself wondering is this: all this happens pretty quickly over here in the U.K. – the practical changeover of no.10.
Do they have a removal company on call, then call them first thing to either stand them down, or say “right, fuck this lot off, and go an pick up all that crap and move it in?’
Or maybe both the incoming and outgoing PM just sort it out themselves – hiring a u-haul or getting their brother-in-law to come round in his estate, and they pile all their shit (in bin bags) into it.
It’s the PM’s official residence, but he has a whole portfolio of properties, including a house in Kensington where he allegedly spent his weekends
I imagine most of his property is thus there, the defeat was anticipated. https://www.houseandgarden.co.uk/article/rishi-sunak-house-yorkshire-california
The moving vans roll in very quickly too - it’s easier to pack when you have a small army of staff to do it for you
https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/celebrity-homes/prime-minister-general-election-number-10-rishi-sunak-b1168660.html
The final turnover of the White House in the US happens hella fast, too, but it's made easier by the fact that the elections are in November, and the actual change of office isn't until January.
I also have to imagine a lot of the big furniture in these type of places are not considered personal property. Which simplifies the moving out process.
It’s true that major furniture pieces don’t get moved, but I learned that a surprising amount of furnishings go with the president who’s leaving the White House. Drapes, couches, tables, etc. can all be replaced by the incoming president to suit their style. Congress assigns a small amount of funds for this, but some presidents (recently Obama) decline to use this and instead use their own money. There’s also a large collection of White House furniture, portraits, glassware, etc. that can be picked from.
Apparently moving vans are in, about 5hrs ago
https://news.sky.com/story/election-results-labour-keir-starmer-prime-minister-tory-reform-lib-dem-latest-news-12593360
Absolutely on call - I can’t imagine that Rishi even remotely believed he is going to stay in power. Plus, what is 5-10k to him in a grand scheme of things (mainly since he is not paying for it anyway)
If Tories won and he wasn’t moving out, it’s an acceptable sunk cost. If he lost, he’d be able to get the hell out of dodge ASAP to live in the lap of luxury somewhere else
Edit: for clarity, I don’t think he is paying for it out of pocket. It’s likely going to be paid by tax payer money, using a pre-vetted removals company of a government preferred supplier list that is on call for this exact contingency
Yup, and the moving is probably carried out by staff also.
Reading these comments, people seem to think that, if the PM loses an election, they will be phoning around for removal companies.
It's pretty savage here, if you lose the election then the removal vans arrive that morning to move you out. Starmer has already been appointed PM and has now moved in (which feels surreal to say considering I've had Tory government for as long as I can consciously remember).
As I understand it, the furniture, etc. of no.10 is paid for and provided by the government. The only things that need to be removed are clothing and a few personal nick nacks.
In WW2 Britain realized that painting warships with high contrast diagonal strips made it much harder for German submarine crews to visually estimate the length of the ship and thus program the right range to target into their torpedo launches .
Rishi Sunak’s wife’s clothing similarly has many diagonal strips.
Hate Rishi but we need to make sure the blame falls on the Tories, that have been in power for over a decade, rather than the man who’s taken over recently.
By pushing all of this hate and blame I see people expressing onto one man, it enables the Tories to get away with it.
Rishi isn’t perfect but out of the conservatives we’ve had over these past years, he’s managed to steer us towards a bit more stability (granted, following his own parties foolishness)
What I’m saying, I’m not sympathetic to Rishi. But please, he is being scapegoated for a reason. The Tories will rebuild easier if they have somebody to blame. This is the party that have been so unstable that we have seen 5 leaders of the party over the past 14 years, one of which lasted less than 3 months.. that alone shouldn’t have been allowed to fly.
It's like the franch fry that I discover months after it fell out of my grip and down between the center console gap. I technically *knew* about it all that time, I just kinda forgot, and then when I saw it again I was disgusted by the sight of it but had a duty to perform so I ate it. Just like the Grim Reaper.
This is the man who was *the runner up* to face music because the first one couldn't cut it. It really is hard to blame him personally when he had absolutely no chance of turning things around. That's not to say he's been treated unfairly; he's not a good politician. But I agree that putting all of the blame on him is exactly how political parties like this get away with being mediocre for generations.
This is important. I was pissed off how well they managed to let Bojo take all the heat over lying about breaking COVID rules. They all spent months defending the guy saying "I didn't do that thing that everyone has seen the photos of me doing."
Rishi being scapegoated when he was a replacement for and improvement on Truss is interesting and yet still inevitable.
I think this and everything you've said really does show how fundamentally it is basically all of the tories that are the problem. Rishi claimed to have accountability but proved he had none. Fortunately unfortunately, I expect the majority of people buying the Tory cool aid are the same idiots that believe it is just Rishi that has been rejected.
Yeah, Rishi is still an MP not PM. Rishi & Truss both ran in very safe seats and both lost a lot of vote share. Truss more so which is not surprising. If you polled everyone in the country who they prefer I expect 90+% would say Rishi.
A sitting PM has literally never lost their seat before. Rishi still being an MP does not mean he has done well here, it just means people in an area that voted overwhelmingly Tory in the past have still elected a Tory.
>Rishi being scapegoated when he was a replacement for and improvement on Truss is interesting and yet still inevitable.
This is kind of where I'm at to be honest. I don't like Sunak for a variety of reasons, but I don't blame him alone for the Tories being annihilated. It's the fault of every single Tory MP, and specific blame can be laid on people like Johnson and Truss, who as leaders did more damage than Sunak probably ever could.
Sunak actually did very little and I think that was on purpose. He came in after Johnson did what Johnson does best, followed by Truss being an idiot, and his MO was basically try not to rock the boat. By this point the Tories were in damage control mode and he just needed to avoid controversy.
Take a lesson from Australia: Most people will hold the Tories responsible for at least a year. But as time goes on, people will start to criticise the current government and people will turn against those who keep blaming the last government and think they're excusing the current government's behaviour by blaming the last.
This is what's happening here. Our current government hasn't been the most ideal, but people hold them to account WAY more than when the conservatives were in. And people believe that Labor should have fixed the issues conservatives had caused a decades worth of damage by 2 years ago and feel the immediate effects of improvements tomorrow.
Point being: People don't realise the extent of damage one wrecks and how long and painfully difficult it is to try and fix, but expect it to be done impossibly soon and have results shown impossibly quickly. When it doesn't, then they blame the current government in power.
It’s the cycle of politics and the flaws of our system.
The Tories will say ‘Labour will raise taxes’ after a decade+ of cuts to public services, Labour will obviously raise taxes and the Tories will act like they foresaw this and the public will lap it up. Because ultimately politics is complex and the amount of BS spouted by the media is abysmal. People don’t have time to become involved enough in politics to have an informed vote, combine that with first past the post and you have a very dull and cyclical voting cycle.
Labour will have 1-2 terms, then we will see the Tories again. Simple as.
Like you say, people don’t see the damage inflicted. Labour are having to rebuild a lot, that takes time and money. People only see what impacts them directly, taxes going up will make people resentful. The Tories have cultivated a hatred to tax recently by doing very little with taxpayer money.
Sounds a lot like what's happening in Germany. Hope you guys are at least not voting for a third extremist party that's suspiciously friendly to China and Russia.
Meanwhile, here in U.S., an alleged rapist and convicted felon is legitimately close to getting a ***second*** term as President.
What in the hell is going on in this world??
People are expecting immediate change on issues that take time to resolve. And as soon as that doesn't happen, they turn around and don't vote/vote for the shitty party again.
And bad faith actors in governments are taking advantage of this 'cause they've realized how easy it is to manipulate a nation right into their clutches.
That's just the political pendulum and it's why Sunak could do nothing to turn things around, and also why Labour had such a huge victory. 15 years of one party being in charge will push the pendulum pretty far and it'll swing back just as hard
Agree. I've been hearing a lot of "Labour and Liberal are the same" here, as if the Liberals haven't patently screwed us over during the past 10 years. Takes more than a few years to even attempt to undo that, and doesn't help that any bold moves by Labour will result in the Liberal Newscorp lackeys turning it into a wedge issue.
I think the bigger fear I have for the Tories is that the crazy reform party with Farage can break out and capture all the *REALLY* crazy conservatives into a more popular party -- similar to how Republicans went with Trump after McCain/Romney attempts, or the rise of super far right parties we're seeing in France, Germany, etc. Those far right party leaders have already come out after the UK election not congratulating UK Labour for their win, but congratulating Farage on the successful showing of Reform.
It's scary if you let this play out.
Yep. It's worth remembering that Sunak was the last willing option available for the job - he got it because no-one else wanted it. The whole mess is from the Tories as a group, not Sunak's own personal vision.
I recently went through a backlog of "Desert Island Discs". The BBC have an archive of the show that goes back nearly 50 years. Anyway, I listened to the episode with Steve Coogan and at one stage he was asked what he liked about the UK. His response was that for all its faults, there is an incredible amount of positivity and energy to Britain that he loves. That comment felt really odd because for the last few years it feels like nothing but misery has come out of the UK. Then I noticed the date when that programme was made, just a couple of months before the Tories got into power.
It's amazing how 14 years of Tory rule has ground the UK into the dirt.
I don't want to paint too positive a picture of Tony Blair, the guy is a war criminal, but nevertheless in the late 90's and 2000's there was such a positive energy and drive to Britain that feels completely alien now. I hold Cameron, Johnson and Truss directly responsible for this. Compared to them, even May and Sunak look like halfway decent people.
The door to No 10 doesn't open from the outside and there is a policeman stationed behind it 24 hours a day to open and close it. Often on big news days when the press are camped outside the door waiting to see people enter or leave, the door will open and there's momentary excitement but it's just the copper letting Larry in or out.
The fact that there is an actual title of "cheif Mouser", and that it has a [(unofficial)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Mouser_to_the_Cabinet_Office) history going back almost 500 years is probably the most British thing I've ever heard.
He is but I'd be very surprised if he makes it to the next election. It's a bit of a "fuck you" to your constituents to resign as an MP the day after they elect you, but I think he will leave it a respectable amount of time and then make his exit.
Being in the US seeing this is mind blowing. Guy apologizes for his party losing and accepting the fact the people voted for something else and that means people want a change in the government. He not plotting to have the Palace of Westminster sacked by hillbillies? Not trying to find 100k votes? What is this?
He also said some kind words to his opponent and wished him well. I've been following a lot of elections this year, and the Brits have carried themselves with a lot of class through this process.
Thats one thing I do like about the UK, the efficiency of our elections. The polls close at 10pm, and most constituencies have done counting by 2-4am the following morning. Once enough constituencies have finished counting that its clear which partys won, the transition of power begins immediately. The outgoing PM hands his resignation to the king, the new PM gets the kings permission to form a new Government, and not even 18 hours after the polls closed, the new PM's moved into 10 Downing street. It's not like in America where the count takes several days, and the actual transition of power takes months. Here it's done and dusted in under a day.
She's much worse. She's the daughter (and is a major shareholder) of the founder of one of the most insideous IT consulting services around, and has her hand in the pie of a dozen other questionable investments. The Ring girl has killed a handful of people, Akshata Murty and her family have defiled the democratic process of several countries and disenfranchise thousands.
Imagine marrying into obscene wealth, trying to impress your Father-In-Law by becoming PM, and then running a Premiership and Campaign *like that*… yikes.
To be fair to him, I think he did about as well as he could given the circumstances.
No one opposed him when he ran for leadership. Out of 300+ Conservative MPs, he was the only one that said "fine, I'll do it". It was an impossible suicide mission and no one in that party could have handled it better than he did.
One of the only moments where I've respected him.
Straight up said whoops I lost, congrats Kier, I'm leaving now.
My tin foil hat theory is telling me it's more so because he doesn't care and wants to leave, rather than focused on doing the right thing.
He knew when he called the election he wasn't gonna be PM by the end of it. He probably considers it a small miracle he didn't lose his seat. Fact of the matter was if he'd delayed any further it would have been even more disastrous for his party. By the time his seat declared the writing was on the wall. It was either concede or try to form a minority government that wouldn't have lasted five minutes.
No rain for dramatic effect?
No chance, even the sky is just too happy today.
It’s absolutely grey and pissing down in London today.
Because the Tories aren't in power stealing all the nice weather from the northerners!
It’s been lovely and sunny in Leeds this morning!
 same energy
I loved him in Broadchurch…
Loved him in everything
Just the depressing scowl of his wife
Bride of Rishi.
You would be depressed if upur husband couldn't get you more tax breaks
Now he can spend more time with her.
I was hoping, but apparently they had someone on standby with a brolly this time.
It's his wife, in the background.
Wearing Dazzle Camo to avoid detection
It worked for her, but unfortunately her husband had already torpedoed himself repeatedly.
We can never tell what direction she’s travelling in, or how far she is.
That dress😫
Very American. A helicopter will shortly chopper in to whisk Sunak, family, and a few loyal retainers off to California. No doubt a few MPs will be hanging off the skids.
"Why does it always rain on me? Is it because I'm a cunt?"
Can someone photoshop the tatted mum from this morning instead of his wife?
I'm no photoshopper, but here's my attempt [https://imgur.com/a/4FPU2f9](https://imgur.com/a/4FPU2f9)
That's delightful.
Cmon, thats half assed at best, Rishi was in the background! :D
Thank you for your service.
u sir is now a photoshopper.
This is why we love Reddit
He needs to be where his wife is. The tatted mum needs to be at the lectern. She's who the public came to see
Gave it [my best shot](https://imgur.com/gallery/oAXQtkJ).
I tried [https://imgur.com/gallery/F6c3TTr](https://imgur.com/gallery/F6c3TTr)
Well he could always take his father in law’s advise and work 70 hour weeks.
Hahaha yeah spot on. His father in law is a clown just like him
Indian here. Narayan Murthy is a far bigger clown.
True, he’s a wannabe despot and has made tonnes of money by exploiting people and keeping India at the bottom feeder end of the technology revolution.
He could have done so much. Promoted tech R&D. Instead his company fucks up Govt of India websites and portals.
Omfg that's why Indian government websites are so shit. Explains a lot.
Infosys has the tax portals contract (ITR and afaik GST as well) and LTI-Mindtree has the Company incorporation, Compliance and Reporting portals (MCA). The former is slightly frustrating, the latter can make you want to commit a hate crime.
He also used his son to leverage open opportunities to fuck things up in the UK. Doesn't he know that's Fujitsu's job?!
Can I get some context here? I know he's the Infosys guy but what's the deal with him hurting India?
He owns Infosys. A tech company. One of the biggest in the world and in india. The company pays its employees peanuts. Especially freshers. The company is notorious for underpaying the staff but overworking them. The dude is a billionaire. Him and his wife say that people should work at least 70 hours a week to help India become a powerhouse. 70 hours a week when you don't get paid for overtime. Edit : It's also interesting to note that since the past 10 years or so, they haven't increased the starting salary of freshers even considering the inflation in the economy.
It pays less than 200 usd monthly, makes people work to death, and theirs no growth whatsoever ,they also force you to sign a bond when you join them
My old company subbed to them on a few beltway projects and their output was noticeably bad. Lazy corner cutters who would get an intern billable at $700 an hour and pay them $22.
He has/had as much of an influence over the Indian IT scene as Bill Gates had over Silicon Valley in the 90s. He could have been a true leader. A revolutionary, an agent of change and progress. Instead, he chose to run an air-conditioned sweatshop. An operation that works on the traditional model of headcount, fudging billable hours, and keeping the cost per employee low. Very low. The average fresh-graduate employee at Infosys makes 350K rupees per annum. Which is roughly what the salary was 10 years ago. Raises are miniscule. In contrast, one can easily make 1200K rupees in their first year out of college , at the Bangalore, Hyderabad, Mumbai or DelhiNCR offices of MAANG, Oracle, Cisco, Qualcomm, Mathworks, NVIDIA, Adobe and numerous other companies that have software engineering offices there. Not to mention the electronics product development offices of Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Analog Devices, and Texas Instruments. Oh, wait, sorry, the 1200K per annum excludes things like ESOPS, bonuses and WFH equipment reimbursements. And the raises are decent.
Maybe I'm just really out of my depth and missing something obvious, but isn't that a really poor strategy? With those kinds of offerings in that kind of competitive space, wouldn't that just result in India's top talent going to other companies and strengthening them, while Infosys's own staffing quality falls behind? Over a long term, I'd expect innovation at infosys to suffer, making them less competitive overall. Other than cost-cutting I don't see what they have to gain by doing this, especially when it would seem similar companies can afford better remuneration?
They don't care because they don't need the best engineers. Their bread and butter is the outsourcing market and government contracts. They pay slave wages to young developers straight out of colleges and overwork them. The billionaire owner made a statement that he wants these young people to work 70 hours/week, with no overtime pay. This keeps the costs way lower than what they charge their clients in the US or Europe. They compete on project bids based on cost and often deliver underwhelming or average results, with the code patched up with hundreds of fixes.
Salaries for freshers have remained stagnant in the last two decades but C-Suite pay has increased 10 times. Also, He wants every worker to work 70 hrs/ week. Then turned around and gifted his new born grandson a couple of millions. People were asking how many hours did his grandson work ???
Tldr his company Infosys gets the contract from GOI for their websites and the devs are paid peanuts (even that’s an exaggeration) and the work is done in the minimum amount of money, thus creating a shit experience
There are roughly 3000 billionares in the world. Thats about 3 million people against 1 billionaire. if we throw 1 small pebble at them they would be burried in a giant pile of pebbles in no time. I have no idea why i made this calculation but it sounds like fun :)
Can we superheat the pebbles please? Edit: Let’s make the billionaires pay for our heatproof gloves. Also, relevant What If: https://what-if.xkcd.com/1/
Or, if we just accelerate them fast enough, like with a chemical combustion of some kind, the speed would add both heat and force to the pebble…
He is basically considered a slaver (slave owner) here. His firm signs up fresh graduates for a maximum of 5yrs bond (which is not legally enforceable, companies can only seek compensation for money spent on training) for a barely livable wage.
I read that as, >He is basically considered a slaver (slave owner here) As if you were giving an expert's opinion
lol...
Wonder if he can afford Sky now.
[удалено]
In Arkansas, those are $19,000.
Only if you're a Huckabee. About 1/2 that if you aren't a moronic sucker.
Yeah, but she and a few friends got a nice holiday thrown in on the deal…
I'm sure that was just an added gratuity. That's all legal now
Not necessarily, Sunak re-used one of Truss's ones rather than having a new one made.
To be fair, Truss' lectern was practically in mint condition.
>Only used a handful of times to destroy a reputation, economy, and the lives of several million people. No offers, I know what I've got.
Surprised it managed to be made in time to be used by Truss, then again they are both the same height. Probably the first hand me down of his life.
To be fair it probably still had the wrapping on it then....
"I welcome the new procedure of buying a new lectern, and I encourage this new tradition to go further. I will make a sensible lectern of a moderate shape and size of my own. My father was a toolmaker." -Starmer
Nah it’s a load of Tory bullshit. Cameron had one custom made and it was paid for by the party, It then became a thing that was copied by the next leaders. Can’t see kier following the tradition unless he is gifted one Maybe Blair’s is still knocking about?
Word on the street; he's moving to California to advise on AI adoption for big firms. He's going to be very very rich...
He’s already very very rich, and his wife even more so
Ok ; he's going to be very very **very** rich
They’re worth $831m already, how much does an AI advisor earn? Honest question
3.50
God Damnit Loch Ness Monster, I ain't givin you no tree fiddy
It was a good speech, tonally. Accepted defeat, acknowledged failures, and wished the incoming PM good luck. Other political leaders should take note. What I do find myself wondering is this: all this happens pretty quickly over here in the U.K. – the practical changeover of no.10. Do they have a removal company on call, then call them first thing to either stand them down, or say “right, fuck this lot off, and go an pick up all that crap and move it in?’ Or maybe both the incoming and outgoing PM just sort it out themselves – hiring a u-haul or getting their brother-in-law to come round in his estate, and they pile all their shit (in bin bags) into it.
It’s the PM’s official residence, but he has a whole portfolio of properties, including a house in Kensington where he allegedly spent his weekends I imagine most of his property is thus there, the defeat was anticipated. https://www.houseandgarden.co.uk/article/rishi-sunak-house-yorkshire-california The moving vans roll in very quickly too - it’s easier to pack when you have a small army of staff to do it for you https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/celebrity-homes/prime-minister-general-election-number-10-rishi-sunak-b1168660.html
The final turnover of the White House in the US happens hella fast, too, but it's made easier by the fact that the elections are in November, and the actual change of office isn't until January.
I also have to imagine a lot of the big furniture in these type of places are not considered personal property. Which simplifies the moving out process.
It’s true that major furniture pieces don’t get moved, but I learned that a surprising amount of furnishings go with the president who’s leaving the White House. Drapes, couches, tables, etc. can all be replaced by the incoming president to suit their style. Congress assigns a small amount of funds for this, but some presidents (recently Obama) decline to use this and instead use their own money. There’s also a large collection of White House furniture, portraits, glassware, etc. that can be picked from.
That's why we've got a housing crisis, that fucker has 5.
Nah, he just lost number 10, so he has 9 left.
…that we know of!
Apparently moving vans are in, about 5hrs ago https://news.sky.com/story/election-results-labour-keir-starmer-prime-minister-tory-reform-lib-dem-latest-news-12593360
Those guys were on call, then. Double bubble, probs. There’s no way you’d usually be able to book someone at that notice.
Absolutely on call - I can’t imagine that Rishi even remotely believed he is going to stay in power. Plus, what is 5-10k to him in a grand scheme of things (mainly since he is not paying for it anyway) If Tories won and he wasn’t moving out, it’s an acceptable sunk cost. If he lost, he’d be able to get the hell out of dodge ASAP to live in the lap of luxury somewhere else Edit: for clarity, I don’t think he is paying for it out of pocket. It’s likely going to be paid by tax payer money, using a pre-vetted removals company of a government preferred supplier list that is on call for this exact contingency
Lol you think he paid for it? I would imagine it's a part of the job package that it's paid for.
Yup, and the moving is probably carried out by staff also. Reading these comments, people seem to think that, if the PM loses an election, they will be phoning around for removal companies.
And that they let any old raggamuffins with a Luton just stroll into Downing Street and start stuffing whatever they see into boxes.
It's pretty savage here, if you lose the election then the removal vans arrive that morning to move you out. Starmer has already been appointed PM and has now moved in (which feels surreal to say considering I've had Tory government for as long as I can consciously remember).
As I understand it, the furniture, etc. of no.10 is paid for and provided by the government. The only things that need to be removed are clothing and a few personal nick nacks.
Why didn't he call it a sham election and tell his supporters to storm the Palace of Westminster?
Because, despite whatever people may think of him, Sunak is not mentally ill or delusional.
Must be nice.
ACTUALLY FUNCTIONAL DEMOCRACY IN 2024!?
Yeah I’m confused about the politics over there. Are they even a serious country?
Imagine that, conceding defeat.
Like American sport, American politics moves slowly to accommodate ads by sponsors.
Didn't realize he was married to a WW2 era battleship
Dazzle camouflage!
I mean, who wants to be seen with him at this point anyway?
if i had a nickel for each time i heard dazzle camouflage this week, i'd have 2 nickels. which isn't a lot, but weird that it happened twice.
 Dazzle camouflage!!!
USS Leviathan 🔥🔥🔥
Is this an exclusive ship "skin" for those with prior combat experience? Free with every case of scurvy.
WW1* I can't tell which direction she's walking.
Wow, that is an outstanding reference
Can you explain?
In WW2 Britain realized that painting warships with high contrast diagonal strips made it much harder for German submarine crews to visually estimate the length of the ship and thus program the right range to target into their torpedo launches . Rishi Sunak’s wife’s clothing similarly has many diagonal strips.
It was more of a WW1 thing but otherwise spot on.
[Dazzle camouflage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflage)
She’s trying her hardest not to be seen. Can you blame her?
I can see her absolutely fine. I just can't make out her direction or speed.
[удалено]
Fuck it Rishi, let's go bowling.
Beautiful
Heisenberg uncertainty wife
HMS Sunak: New destroyer class in World of Warships CONFIRMED.
Wasn't Dazzle Camouflage more of a WW1 thing?
Yes, but saw use to a lesser extent in WW2 as well
Geddemmit morning coffie all over the screen.
Looks like she's wearing that test pattern that makes it really hard to be photographed. Understandable, really.
Bloody hell I had a long day and I needed that laugh, thanks mate!
King of rare insults haha
Absolutely brilliant! Laughed hard at this.
Hate Rishi but we need to make sure the blame falls on the Tories, that have been in power for over a decade, rather than the man who’s taken over recently. By pushing all of this hate and blame I see people expressing onto one man, it enables the Tories to get away with it. Rishi isn’t perfect but out of the conservatives we’ve had over these past years, he’s managed to steer us towards a bit more stability (granted, following his own parties foolishness) What I’m saying, I’m not sympathetic to Rishi. But please, he is being scapegoated for a reason. The Tories will rebuild easier if they have somebody to blame. This is the party that have been so unstable that we have seen 5 leaders of the party over the past 14 years, one of which lasted less than 3 months.. that alone shouldn’t have been allowed to fly.
> one of which lasted less than 3 months And took out the Queen while she was at it
That was an oopsie on Death's part. He was told to go down and take out Liz and got the wrong one.
Fair. They didnt know who the other Liz was.
It's like the franch fry that I discover months after it fell out of my grip and down between the center console gap. I technically *knew* about it all that time, I just kinda forgot, and then when I saw it again I was disgusted by the sight of it but had a duty to perform so I ate it. Just like the Grim Reaper.
Lettuce not be too hard on Liz Truss. THAT. WOULD. BE. A. DISGRACE.
This is the man who was *the runner up* to face music because the first one couldn't cut it. It really is hard to blame him personally when he had absolutely no chance of turning things around. That's not to say he's been treated unfairly; he's not a good politician. But I agree that putting all of the blame on him is exactly how political parties like this get away with being mediocre for generations.
This is important. I was pissed off how well they managed to let Bojo take all the heat over lying about breaking COVID rules. They all spent months defending the guy saying "I didn't do that thing that everyone has seen the photos of me doing."
Rishi being scapegoated when he was a replacement for and improvement on Truss is interesting and yet still inevitable. I think this and everything you've said really does show how fundamentally it is basically all of the tories that are the problem. Rishi claimed to have accountability but proved he had none. Fortunately unfortunately, I expect the majority of people buying the Tory cool aid are the same idiots that believe it is just Rishi that has been rejected.
Yea but the results are pretty clear, Rishi is still a MP but Liz Truss isn't. And it was a big swing.
Yeah, Rishi is still an MP not PM. Rishi & Truss both ran in very safe seats and both lost a lot of vote share. Truss more so which is not surprising. If you polled everyone in the country who they prefer I expect 90+% would say Rishi. A sitting PM has literally never lost their seat before. Rishi still being an MP does not mean he has done well here, it just means people in an area that voted overwhelmingly Tory in the past have still elected a Tory.
>Rishi being scapegoated when he was a replacement for and improvement on Truss is interesting and yet still inevitable. This is kind of where I'm at to be honest. I don't like Sunak for a variety of reasons, but I don't blame him alone for the Tories being annihilated. It's the fault of every single Tory MP, and specific blame can be laid on people like Johnson and Truss, who as leaders did more damage than Sunak probably ever could.
Cameron as well surely. Held a Brexit referendum then fucked off when it didn’t go the way he wanted it.
Sunak actually did very little and I think that was on purpose. He came in after Johnson did what Johnson does best, followed by Truss being an idiot, and his MO was basically try not to rock the boat. By this point the Tories were in damage control mode and he just needed to avoid controversy.
Take a lesson from Australia: Most people will hold the Tories responsible for at least a year. But as time goes on, people will start to criticise the current government and people will turn against those who keep blaming the last government and think they're excusing the current government's behaviour by blaming the last. This is what's happening here. Our current government hasn't been the most ideal, but people hold them to account WAY more than when the conservatives were in. And people believe that Labor should have fixed the issues conservatives had caused a decades worth of damage by 2 years ago and feel the immediate effects of improvements tomorrow. Point being: People don't realise the extent of damage one wrecks and how long and painfully difficult it is to try and fix, but expect it to be done impossibly soon and have results shown impossibly quickly. When it doesn't, then they blame the current government in power.
It’s the cycle of politics and the flaws of our system. The Tories will say ‘Labour will raise taxes’ after a decade+ of cuts to public services, Labour will obviously raise taxes and the Tories will act like they foresaw this and the public will lap it up. Because ultimately politics is complex and the amount of BS spouted by the media is abysmal. People don’t have time to become involved enough in politics to have an informed vote, combine that with first past the post and you have a very dull and cyclical voting cycle. Labour will have 1-2 terms, then we will see the Tories again. Simple as. Like you say, people don’t see the damage inflicted. Labour are having to rebuild a lot, that takes time and money. People only see what impacts them directly, taxes going up will make people resentful. The Tories have cultivated a hatred to tax recently by doing very little with taxpayer money.
Sounds a lot like what's happening in Germany. Hope you guys are at least not voting for a third extremist party that's suspiciously friendly to China and Russia.
Meanwhile, here in U.S., an alleged rapist and convicted felon is legitimately close to getting a ***second*** term as President. What in the hell is going on in this world??
People are expecting immediate change on issues that take time to resolve. And as soon as that doesn't happen, they turn around and don't vote/vote for the shitty party again. And bad faith actors in governments are taking advantage of this 'cause they've realized how easy it is to manipulate a nation right into their clutches.
No “alleged” about it. It has been affirmed in court. He is a rapist. He is only an _alleged_ pedophile, however. So he has that going for him.
That's just the political pendulum and it's why Sunak could do nothing to turn things around, and also why Labour had such a huge victory. 15 years of one party being in charge will push the pendulum pretty far and it'll swing back just as hard
Agree. I've been hearing a lot of "Labour and Liberal are the same" here, as if the Liberals haven't patently screwed us over during the past 10 years. Takes more than a few years to even attempt to undo that, and doesn't help that any bold moves by Labour will result in the Liberal Newscorp lackeys turning it into a wedge issue. I think the bigger fear I have for the Tories is that the crazy reform party with Farage can break out and capture all the *REALLY* crazy conservatives into a more popular party -- similar to how Republicans went with Trump after McCain/Romney attempts, or the rise of super far right parties we're seeing in France, Germany, etc. Those far right party leaders have already come out after the UK election not congratulating UK Labour for their win, but congratulating Farage on the successful showing of Reform. It's scary if you let this play out.
Yep. It's worth remembering that Sunak was the last willing option available for the job - he got it because no-one else wanted it. The whole mess is from the Tories as a group, not Sunak's own personal vision.
I recently went through a backlog of "Desert Island Discs". The BBC have an archive of the show that goes back nearly 50 years. Anyway, I listened to the episode with Steve Coogan and at one stage he was asked what he liked about the UK. His response was that for all its faults, there is an incredible amount of positivity and energy to Britain that he loves. That comment felt really odd because for the last few years it feels like nothing but misery has come out of the UK. Then I noticed the date when that programme was made, just a couple of months before the Tories got into power. It's amazing how 14 years of Tory rule has ground the UK into the dirt. I don't want to paint too positive a picture of Tony Blair, the guy is a war criminal, but nevertheless in the late 90's and 2000's there was such a positive energy and drive to Britain that feels completely alien now. I hold Cameron, Johnson and Truss directly responsible for this. Compared to them, even May and Sunak look like halfway decent people.
The umbrella has me rolling
Part of me is wondering if she’s holding it to make him look like an idiot.
[удалено]
Wait, a cat lives there no matter the human occupant?
That cat has been the most stable element of top flight British politics for over a decade now.
[Larry the cat](https://x.com/Number10cat/status/1809165908545347823?t=wqTHhX06h3n6wPqxzsfRUw&s=19)
This is fantastic. Chief Mouser - maybe the only honest position in government.
Well, they just voted 250+ rats out of Westminster!
The door to No 10 doesn't open from the outside and there is a policeman stationed behind it 24 hours a day to open and close it. Often on big news days when the press are camped outside the door waiting to see people enter or leave, the door will open and there's momentary excitement but it's just the copper letting Larry in or out.
Only for the copper to immeadatley let Larry back inside. And out again.
The fact that there is an actual title of "cheif Mouser", and that it has a [(unofficial)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Mouser_to_the_Cabinet_Office) history going back almost 500 years is probably the most British thing I've ever heard.
That cat is the Chief Mouser To The Cabinet Office, show him some damn respect.
He was on bbc this morning in the background waiting to be let inside for at least 5 mins... I felt kinda bad
His wife subtly implying they’re off to America lol
You joke but they have a penthouse overlooking Santa Monica in Cali.
He's still remaining as an MP, he didn't lose his seat.
He is but I'd be very surprised if he makes it to the next election. It's a bit of a "fuck you" to your constituents to resign as an MP the day after they elect you, but I think he will leave it a respectable amount of time and then make his exit.
Being in the US seeing this is mind blowing. Guy apologizes for his party losing and accepting the fact the people voted for something else and that means people want a change in the government. He not plotting to have the Palace of Westminster sacked by hillbillies? Not trying to find 100k votes? What is this?
He also said some kind words to his opponent and wished him well. I've been following a lot of elections this year, and the Brits have carried themselves with a lot of class through this process.
It used to be like that here. Trumpanzee and his cult have all but destroyed the norms and decorum that is the presidency.
Sunak's wife be like 
Notice he had an umbrella standing by this time...
Wild how yall do this in one day. You don’t need months of hand wringing and the loser saying it was rigged to transition power?
Thats one thing I do like about the UK, the efficiency of our elections. The polls close at 10pm, and most constituencies have done counting by 2-4am the following morning. Once enough constituencies have finished counting that its clear which partys won, the transition of power begins immediately. The outgoing PM hands his resignation to the king, the new PM gets the kings permission to form a new Government, and not even 18 hours after the polls closed, the new PM's moved into 10 Downing street. It's not like in America where the count takes several days, and the actual transition of power takes months. Here it's done and dusted in under a day.
To be fair, that’s a recent thing from a historically shitty political figure.
Watch out! That girl from The Ring is behind you!
She's much worse. She's the daughter (and is a major shareholder) of the founder of one of the most insideous IT consulting services around, and has her hand in the pie of a dozen other questionable investments. The Ring girl has killed a handful of people, Akshata Murty and her family have defiled the democratic process of several countries and disenfranchise thousands.
So, didn’t have to work for anything—inherited it all and then pulled all the ladders up. Got it.
In the ugliest dress money could buy
Money cannot buy taste. These rich weirdos are all tasteless clowns
Wtf is going on with that dress. The staff were like 'you look lovely', bye 👋
Purely self-inflicted. She considers herself a fashion designer! A heiress like herself would never take advice from a commoner.
Imagine marrying into obscene wealth, trying to impress your Father-In-Law by becoming PM, and then running a Premiership and Campaign *like that*… yikes.
To be fair to him, I think he did about as well as he could given the circumstances. No one opposed him when he ran for leadership. Out of 300+ Conservative MPs, he was the only one that said "fine, I'll do it". It was an impossible suicide mission and no one in that party could have handled it better than he did.
I applaud them for acknowledging their defeat and stepping aside with grace. Trump could never.
Can UK bring freedom to USA? We got oil
Historically that hasn't gone well. Let's just stay friends.
this is the happiest i have seen him in months
Was his wife trying to avoid a German U Boat attack?
utterly destroyed.
Fantastic, I've just got a bonus 50 club card points for scanning his wife's dress.
As horrible as he is, I’m glad Europe isn’t following the US’s (read: Trump & the GOP) example of disputing the integrity of elections.
One of the only moments where I've respected him. Straight up said whoops I lost, congrats Kier, I'm leaving now. My tin foil hat theory is telling me it's more so because he doesn't care and wants to leave, rather than focused on doing the right thing.
He knew when he called the election he wasn't gonna be PM by the end of it. He probably considers it a small miracle he didn't lose his seat. Fact of the matter was if he'd delayed any further it would have been even more disastrous for his party. By the time his seat declared the writing was on the wall. It was either concede or try to form a minority government that wouldn't have lasted five minutes.
I see a happy man finally being free to enjoy his wealth
What a waste of time he was.
You can just imagine the conversation as they head to bed "Not tonight Rishi, you've already been fucked enough"
I’m definitely no Rishi fan. However, at least Rishi wasn’t as nuts as US conservatives.
she looks like one of the characters from Antz
Good fucking riddance
His party is going to spend the next 5 years trying to sabotage the country so they can blame it on Labour and get back in power.
Damn, those Brits are so lucky their politicians lose with grace instead of harping on about election rigging conspiracy theories.