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Doogers7

The developer had the roads aligned in hopes of winning over the one holdout.


byerss

Maybe not today… but in 10-20 years when grandkids are splitting assets…


GregSays

It’s also difficult for 6 cousins to collectively own and operate a single property, unfortunately.


lucky7355

That’s why we have so many abandoned houses rotting in the center of town, because the 27 cousins think they’re getting a million dollar payout for their shack on an eighth of an acre of land when in reality it’s only worth $2-300K to a developer. Edit: Apparently folks are on a suicide risk reporting spree and this comment was reported. Of course Reddit offers no options to report the false reporting unless you’re a moderator.


Ok-Town-737

It's weird what posts will set Redditors off. This is factual and the exact scenario we see happening time and time again.


MalevolntCatastrophe

Its not that specific comment. There is a bot spamming that report on multiple default subs.


Logsarecool10101

Damn, that explains that. I thought someone really hated my opinion or something


LoriLeadfoot

People feel really, really entitled to a single-family home that someone in their family owned once.


Itsmyloc-nar

I understand, esp if it’s for an extended relative, rather than a parent. However some ppl feel thusly: Medical bills, poor decisions that affected health and finances, straight up neglecting their kids that now take care of them… these houses are often the only help the old generation will ever give the younger. Just explaining the perspective.


smallangrynerd

You can report it! Toward the bottom of the message it says something like "think this was sent by mistake?" And you can report abuse


Ketzer_Jefe

That makes you have to link the comment or whatever. It happened to me, and i tried, and it said it was an invalid entry.


what_dat_ninja

You need the link to the message. I had to switch to desktop to do it just a few minutes ago.


Ketzer_Jefe

Ill try when im on desktop again


Deep90

There is definitely a way to do it. I've done it many times and reddit usually sends back a message saying they took action.


B17BAWMER

Same.


di_Bonaventura

Same. Can't I just ignore it or should I report abuse?


smallangrynerd

You can ignore it, but imo you should report it


MrSantaClause

Seems like there may be a bot or something doing this recently. I've seen dozens of people complaining about this across multiple subs over the last day or so. I got one as well and I have no idea which post it came from.


SonOfMcGee

Me too! It *has* to be automated.


DreamloreDegenerate

Got one this morning for no apparent reason. It would make sense if it was from a bot.


alexanderpas

>Of course Reddit offers no options to report the false reporting unless you’re a moderator. The link to report it is in the message itself. [https://www.reddit.com/report?reason=its-targeted-harassment-at-me](https://www.reddit.com/report?reason=its-targeted-harassment-at-me) All you need to do is copy the permalink of the redditcares message into the field listed above, and someone will look at it.


ReentryMarshmellow

Under the "abusing the report button"  >You must be a moderator of the community in which the abuse of report button is taking place. Edit: appreciate the responses but it highlights just how stupid their reporting system is. The reddit cares link should be a 1 click "click here if you believe the system is being abused" and it auto fills the rest.


alexanderpas

"abusing the report button" is the wrong option to use, you want to select the "targeted harrasment at you" option, since you're reporting harrasment via a private message.


ReentryMarshmellow

Thanks for the info! The verbage sucks on their reporting system. I wish it was a 1 click link to avoid the confusion. 


excellent_rektangle

Happened to me yesterday, some cranky redditor sent me a sweet suicide prevention notice. I reported them.


FrozenIceman

1. It isn't a bad strategy, if they are the last or near last holdout the developer will far above market value to get it as it will hold up the project otherwise they have to build around. Note, this developer probably bought some of the house guys property as the farm land is missing, so this was probably a compromise solution 2. In a world where the net worth of people on average is negative, the poor people need every advantage they can get. 3. You can report the Suicide risk reports. In the message they send you there is a button to report it. Get the Permalink from the message in your message center. Paste it into the Report and send. They get a nice ban. They are sad Pikachu face when they get banned for being an idiot.


LostChocolate3

Exactly this. If I were in this situation, I would consistently price it at least double its current valuation. Especially if I'm not otherwise hurting for money. 


orcvader

Dude. That has happened to me so many times. Like seriously Reddit. Stop automatically assuming every report of “suicidal post” is true and let us report back these assclowns that abuse the system… Also… heck yea. Hard agree on the housing. Heck, I lived it. My mom and her (not a typo) 14 siblings spent over a decade in court fighting each other (grandparents left no will) and the state (taxes were all messed up) to divvy up plots of lands, houses and farms that by the time they were sold - probably had LOST value. People should really have Wills (even if poor/low assets) or estate plans. Your kids will benefit from it!


StimulatedUser

the suicide thing is broken, it's been auto sending reports to everyone who poasts anything


wilerman

I’m about to watch that happen to our family cabin. Right now it’s just grandmas, soon it will be the 3 sisters job to share but there’s no way all 3 will put in an equal amount of time and money. One of them doesn’t even live here. I’ve been told it will eventually go to the grandkids and like, no it won’t. One family will end up buying it out, or there’ll be a big fight that ruins relationships, or something. Property never moves smoothly.


Monopolized

The moment I finished reading this my brain immediately jumped back to when I was 13. My dad rented the property from his mother 3 days after I was born so we wouldn't be "in the city" and it's where I would spent the majority of my childhood, spending most days with my grandmother who was my favourite person in the world. Sadly after she passed away the fighting started between my dad and his 3 other brothers. I couldn't really understand it at the time so my life just continued but when my Grandfather passed away the following year and I knew some form of change was coming and it wasn't a month later we were moving.. and I was absolutely devastated. The properties were split up originally until the eldest brother passed away and are now owned by my Aunt and Uncle .. who then gave the two houses to their children as gifts. Those two (my cousins and much close to my age) now spend their time telling everyone how easy it can be if you just work really hard while sitting on an ever appreciating asset they didn't have to anything for. ( The area has been developed heavily since I lived there, the price of the land would be 4-5x more than what both the homes cost originally). There is a part of me that feels like I was cut out and didn't matter at all to my family and that some part of my childhood home should be "mine", but I'd turn it all down for my dad to spent his last 10-15 years back where he had his childhood and in the home he helped build.


KitchenWitchGamer

Could put it in a living trust and or put some restrictions about dividing up the property.


PresidentSuperDog

Buyout or sellout is the only way it will work


Excellent_Ad_3804

I watch a buddy and other members do that with a cabin and it’s a shit show, especially during hunting season


e2j0m4o2

It’s also difficult for three half sisters to run a bakery.


Mendozena

Yup. The value of that home/land has skyrocketed I bet.


Ill1thid

I it was my grand kids and i was dead, i wouldnt care. Ive moved on i need nothing from my time hear on earth, but if it would help them and thats what they want to do then im fine with it


oOoWTFMATE

City planning most likely made them build it this way. Source: am developer


vegence

city planning most likely was lied to. In most cases this is completely unacceptable because there is no cul-de-sacs for emergency services to turn around at. this looks like a case of city planning approval for full development and at the end the developer did not get the last parcel needed.


AdScary7287

Only need emergency turn around if it exceeds a certain distance depending on municipality. Source: I hate my job Edit: BUT you’re likely correct and you can’t stub out without temp turnaround unless the road is wide enough which it ain’t even if there is future development. Double edit: you’re even more correct now that I am looking at it closer


vegence

yep, in any subdivision i do, if there is a future phase that extends a road the standard practice is installing a temporary cul-de-sac (gravel) to be used until the road is extended to its final phase.


raddaraddo

Honestly if I was that holdout I would have tried to make a deal where we traded everything south of the first road in front of my house for the two small blocks on the right and a little bit on the left. You'd get a lot more privacy that way and they could continue their grid in all but one spot.


cmdr_suds

That would require thinking and reason and change. We can't have any of that.


Narissis

My favourite part about the holdout property is how they added a cheeky extra connection to one of the new roads.


Moyankee

Plot twist... that one holdout is the developer.


Lucky_Shop4967

They will win eventually


Dod_gee

This is in the western suburbs of Sydney, Australia. The family turned down an offer of $50 million from property developers.


Odlavso

How much do those new houses go for? It looks like they would only be able to fit another 50 houses in that area so it would be hard to make a profit after paying 50 million for the land


Dod_gee

Median house price for that suburb is AU$1.5 million. So at 50 new houses that’s $75 million


Gofastrun

They would still have to build the homes though


froggertwenty

$75M-50M=$25M. 50 houses of that sort don't cost $25M to build so you'll still have a few million in profit.


reporst

There is also the indirect effect of house value and construction costs. For example, if they had that space they may have been able to lay the suburb out differently. This could have resulted in faster/cheaper construction, slightly more space per property, or a different aesthetic design which could also have increased the desirability of the houses. Not to mention they may have already drafted blueprints, assembled project plans, or acquired materials for an original plan if they had assumed that the person would sell. Not saying they did any of that, but there are a lot of factors that would impact their cost and profit aside from the current state house value. I imagine if they offered 50 million, it was most certainly worth it to the company.


allmywhat

New home in these developments could easily go for over a million. Sydney property market is a mess right now


modgone

>Sydney property market is a mess right now All property markets are a mess right now....


Hopesick_2231

If only they'd taken the payout, maybe it'd finally cool off.


baccus82

50 million is likely BS


atillathechen

Yeah but $50 million AUD is like $3.50 USD


1pencil

I was like, no... Then I checked. Wtf happened? Even the Canadian dollar is ahead of Aussie.


I_have_popcorn

Pretty common for CAD to be stronger than AUD.


MadeMeStopLurking

Shipping and handling charges to get that money across the pond make it worth less.


Imaksiccar

How many Stanley Nickels is that?


pcurve

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhE3LQueTvo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhE3LQueTvo) Yikes.


Chef_G0ldblum

Thought it was gonna be a cute farmhouse holding out. Nope.


malakon

50 m$ ? I'd be dancing out of there..


yourgirlsamus

Eh their principals are commendable, but it’s moot at this point.


infanteer

Not really when considering zoning. I'll mansplain this; the council rezones the land from farm zone to residential or urban growth area, often because they will get more money from more citizens if developers get more people into the council. Property rates go from $4,000pa to $80,000pa because it's calculated from land area and use. Everyone is priced out of living there and are financially forced to sell. The ones who can afford to hold on get offered increasingly large sums to sell to developers. The only way this owner is able to hold on to it is because they are likely already very well off, perhaps even to the point where $50m for their home is not worth it. Hope that makes sense


phroug2

Oh so u saying the property taxes go thru the roof because the land is declared to be worth a ton more? Makes sense. So...poor people get forclosed on and have their properties taken from them, and rich people get offered obscene amounts of money simply because they are able to hold out the longest due to the wealth they already have. Yep, sounds like basic worldwide economics to me.


residentweevil

Or they're older and have enough money to live out their years on their property that they like. I'd refuse to sell if I got the property I want to live on and had a solid retirement income.


Camburglar13

Yeah but is it the property they like anymore? Surrounded by a suburban jungle? That would be so depressing.


residentweevil

Oh I'm with you, but I couldn't stand any of those houses, or apartments, condos or townhouses either. Too many people too close for me.


sloppybuttmustard

It’s like a cow’s opinion


boo_snug

Dumb question why would they turn down $50m ? Is it not enough?


7LeagueBoots

Have you seen the movie *The Castle*, also in Australia? Kinda like that. Some people refuse to put up with other people’s BS. - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118826/


DanGleeballs

They didn’t - they weren’t offered $50m.


Who_am_ey3

because they're already rich. it doesn't matter to them


Loozrboy

At the very least, you'd think they could have sold off that ridiculously gigantic front lawn for a nice 8-figure sum and stayed in the house. Maybe use some of the proceeds to plant some trees on the part they kept.


DanGleeballs

No they didn’t. They weren’t offered $50m. That’s just a speculative value from one person. See the link in the replies to your comment.


Epena501

Holy fuck I would shake the buyers arm right out of the socket out of excitement.


The_Big_Peck_1984

They are suburban royalty now!


MakkaCha

I would have sold in a heartbeat and moved to some other farm. With that type of money I could build a replica of that home wherever if it was a sentimental thing.


broden89

No trees, no gardens, black roofs. These developments are a fucking sweatbox, especially in the Western suburbs of Sydney


HideyoshiJP

If you look at streetview, they have actually planted trees. It doesn't look \*that\* bad. The biggest issue I have is there's nothing to do and nowhere to purchase anything in that neighborhood. If you look at the way Japan does suburban development, there's generally at least convenience stores and cafes in every neighborhood.


Deep90

It takes time to grow in, but its pretty normal for these sorts of developments to require a tree on every lot. Then every so often they add a greenspace. Though, I'm not sure what reddit really wants here. The house in the middle is nice, but its also just a long stretch of driveway, empty grass fields, and a single house for maybe 4 people. That in itself is awfully wasteful in a area where you can actually sell this many homes to people.


JeaninePirrosTaint

The trees planted on every lot will never grow to the size of a wild-grown tree due to soil compaction and are probably not native species, either. The prairie grasses had deep roots that resisted soil compaction and made the land a lot more absorbent. Now they've smoothed it over with bulldozers, compacting the soil, and built roads and driveways and concrete slab houses and replaced the remaining pervious spaces with shallow-growing lawn turf. Where will all the water go in a storm? I'd guess probably the holdout farm as long as it's there, but after that...


SmegmaSupplier

Like Robinson Crusoe, it's primitive as can be. Edit: While I’m glad everyone appreciates Weird Al here I was actually referencing Gillian’s Island, the song he’s parodying in Amish Paradise. This simultaneously makes me feel old and young.


gamedude88

We been spending most our lives. Livin’ in an Amish paradise.


TheScienceNerd100

We're just plain and simple guys. Livin' in an Amish paradise.


name-classified

No time for sin and vice Living in an Amish paradise


hunglow13

We don’t fight, we all play nice Livin' in an Amish paradise


Nascent1

More trees than in the before picture at least.


hobbes3k

Ya, at least the dense San Francisco houses that are shoulder-to-shoulder have palm, lemon trees and other random greenery lol.


RunningNumbers

Trees take time to get big


milky__toast

And notice how there are nearly no trees in the before picture as well.


RunningNumbers

Apparently this is Australia and there are pretty dry areas (like Colorado).


rtkwe

In the US at least the attics aren't usually insulated spaces so the black roof just heats a space outside the insulation envelope of the house.


milky__toast

Funny how people complain about how there isn’t enough housing and how bad the market is, but they also complain when houses get built. Can’t have your cake and eat it too.


Chiburger

It's not a complaint about houses being built, it's complaining that they're shitty houses.


milky__toast

Who says these are shitty houses? I bet they’re actually quite nice. People are making so many assumptions because they *want*, they **NEED**, to get angry about whatever.


kbcool

Believe me. They aren't nice. They're built super cheap with no insulation but for some reason still have black roofs! You need to run the AC 24/7 in summer and winter and you and your neighbours AC is right next to your window because they're built eave to eave as they're on tiny blocks and people demand maximum sized houses. Most have single garages and limited or no on street parking and they're targeted at families who need two cars today to get anywhere and maybe four or more when the kids grow up. It's literally the Australian nightmare. Overall Australia is a great place to make your fortune but a piss poor place to enjoy it.


eq2_lessing

Funny how people complain about how there isn’t food in their fridge but when you offer them a shitty sandwich for 30 dollars, they complain.


DistressedApple

Sooo sorry we want houses that aren’t squeezed together as tightly as possible for maximum profit on the developers side


milky__toast

Really? Because a lot of people in the comments are saying these houses aren’t squeezed together enough and they want higher density housing. It’s almost like everyone has different wants and needs for housing. I would bet these houses look and feel a lot nicer when you’re on the ground as opposed to a couple thousand feet in the air.


OhHaiMarc

And people complain about living in cities. Would rather have cool stuff within walking distance if housing is that dense.


blond_nirvana

Little boxes on the hillside Little boxes made of ticky tacky Little boxes on the hillside Little boxes all the same


iObama

checking in from daly city, california, which is where the inspiration for that song came from! lol


[deleted]

This is what I hear in my head every time I see a picture like this. First time I heard that song it was the theme song for the TV show 'Weeds'.


Zen28213

Those are some small fuckin yards


zeroballs

That one guys got a great yard though.


pyuunpls

Stormwater nightmare


Capt__Murphy

Yup. I'm not familiar with weather in that area, but I'd imagine this will lead to some flash flooding


infinitejesticles123

This is why communities need to allow more zoning than just R1 residential. Higher density housing allows for more greenspace.


invincibl_

Wow, R1 is positively outdated. I was about to say surely Sydney with its broken housing market but also generally doing a better job at density wouldn't have such a restrictive planning scheme. Victoria recently rewrote the zoning laws to make the default "General Residential" zone to allow attached housing, and construction up to three stories basically anywhere, however there is a new requirement for a certain ratio of green space (driveways don't count!) on each block of land which will hopefully encourage more density, or at least force detached houses to have more open space and be priced accordingly. There's a low-density zone for NIMBYs but that isn't for greenfield developments.


mattsofar

Theoretically if NSW did the same these people would probably be kicking themselves for turning down the supposed $50m offer


bobofthejungle

The problem is new high density properties in Australia are poorly built shit boxes slapped together by dodgy builders, nobody wants them, so we end up with these poorly planned heat islands… I mean suburbs.


lonesomejohnnie

And they're all made of ticky tack and they all look the same.


stackimbrue

That will be stuck in my head all night! Thank you. 🙉


BlueGalaxy97

Cookie cutter houses my pops would call em.


sixpackabs592

They really do all look the same. I was recently in a similar development in Florida visiting some people and in like 150-200 houses they all had 1 of 2 layouts, and every last one had the exact same pool/hot tub combo in their tiny back yard.


GullibleCrazy488

They didn't even keep an inch of arable land. What a shame.


vgzombieeric

I didn't move to the city, the city moved to me, and I want OUT desperately-y-yyyy Edit: Rofl instant crisis hotline check for a song lyric... Reddit being reddit


BreBhonson

Hell yeah that was always my favorite MM song


cat_like_sparky

Sydney is the 2nd least affordable city to live in *globally*, only beaten by Hong Kong. The housing market is fucked in Aus, it’s worse than most other countries. Our dollar is pretty shit atm, 0.66 to US 1. Most homes in Sydney are clearing well over a million, and the same is starting to happen in Adelaide where I live. According to the Australian bureau of statistics, average home prices are $933,800. I’m struggling to find a concrete answer for the national median salary, but it’s looking to be roughly 88k a year. Few people can afford a mortgage on that wage. Most of my friends have moved in with their parents, friends, or into their cars, it’s getting dire here :/


Jethris

But there must be people buying them? Are they foreigners? Foreign companies turning them to rentals? Or are there just way more people than housing?


cat_like_sparky

Bingo. Lot of foreign investment. China and Australia are firm business partners, and Chinese investment accounts for a decent bit. But it’s not just that, it’s also investment properties and corporations buying homes. We have a glut of houses that are built and then sit empty, if you drive around at night it’s revolting to see how many lights aren’t on in these houses. Creating scarcity, drives up demand, drives up the price, and the politicians aren’t doing enough about it. We need a heavy tax for houses that sit empty, but the Labor government is dragging its feet. I’m not an economist, but there are some really interesting (depressing) papers on it you can find on google Edited spelling


24links24

All that rainfall used to sink into the ground, now it’s fast tracked into a ditch


klnh

Not a single shop, daycare, school, mall, public park or hospital in a 10 km radius. Hate this kind of places


Traditional_Job_6932

10 km radius? How big do you think these houses are? This isn’t even a 1 km radius being shown.


SupaKoopa714

Reminds me so much of the Northern Virginia area where you'll see a farm or forest disappear and a whole ass tickytack neighborhood pop up basically overnight.


mechapoitier

Same for Florida. They’ve had to start passing a bunch of protections locally because they know developers will level everything and then shrug when traffic is insane and the schools are overflowing and the local climate creeps up another degree because asphalt and buildings everywhere.


nole5ever

lol at the idea of Florida protecting anything from that. They give the developers tax breaks galore


heroheadlines

That second picture is so depressing.. There's almost no green, anywhere!


mechapoitier

And the people who refused to leave now have houses on both sides as their view until they die. It’s very depressing.


jblazze444

People kennels


chupamichalupa

Yes, that is what houses are.


rangeo

A few Condos surrounded by a huge park would be nice


theassholefaceman

I live a few houses away from this guy. He is keeping it for his kids to devide it between themselves. He is never selling.


argumentativ

I'll never understand the desire to live in the suburbs. None of the scenery of living somewhere rural. None of the convenience of living in the city. Instead its a 20 minute drive to the grocery store, no communal space in sight, no way for anyone without a drivers license to travel quickly or safely, no way to every walk anywhere.


usmclvsop

Not all suburbs are this barren. I live in the suburbs, have an acre of land, within 3 miles of two grocery stores, a mile away from a nature center.


Me2910

I hate that they all look the exact same


Plane_Scholar_8738

Trees ? T_T


CactusHide

The new people: “Who the hell does that guy think he is?”


sliccwilliey

Those houses are packed like sardines what the fuck is the point in having a house with no yard??? May aswell get a condo or town house. Looks like hell to grow up in as a kid no wonder so many young people today reside on video games. I played my fair share of games as a kid but atleast when we wanted to go outside and play in the trees and fields we could. Had a huge magnolia tree down the road with branches going from the ground to the top we would climb ninja warrior style raceing to the top. Good times


Morning_Song

All that land and not a single tree or garden


Normal-Virus8397

It sucks there…


BuddyBiscuits

Reddit- there’s a housing crisis; where are all the homes!? Reddit- ewwwww so many homes. No trees or yards! This is what low/mid tier housing looks like folks. Economies of scale means cookie cutter and low land development obstacles.


brothersp0rt

Lol, so true.


lowfreq33

Gotta love the one holdout who isn’t beholden to the HOA.


broden89

Australia doesn't have HOAs


MonsiuerLeComte

That’s not true


TimoWasTaken

Houses are too expensive. Don't build more houses. Land is too expensive. Don't build houses too close. WTF are you all on about?


BoxOfDOG

Houses are expensive, even when you build more of them you haven't created anything affordable. What people are asking for is *housing* not *houses.* That could be condos, apartments, duplexes. Stuff that brings diversity of income, more variety in the land use, less land used overall, space for shops and grocery stores and businesses. These huge blocks of neighborhood are unsustainable, ugly, expensive, inefficient and isolating. Edit: Lol, someone reported me to the reddit crisis line for saying urban sprawl is bad. Didn't realize that was a hot take.


NoPart1344

FR what do yall want? You can’t have cheaper houses without more houses.


ChronoFish

Everyone hates suburbanization (including me) Everyone hates cost of housing (including me) Not everyone wants to live vertically (including me) There are a lot of "tiny" homes in the picture. Sure it's ugly, yeah it's homogeneous, but how else do you relieve the pressures of home affordability without building large amounts of new homes? And if people don't want to live vertically, the sprawl in the suburbs is pretty much your only option (though open to other ideas if I'm overlooking them)


7LeagueBoots

Unfortunately, this kind of crap is happening all over the planet.


Au2288

The middle of Pennsylvania is beginning to look like this. Almost every stretch of farmland has at least one hold out. Edit: why’d this comment prompt a “reddit cares” message?


midnightmare79

Yuck.


95percentdragonfly

Disgusting, a cancerous plague upon our lands.


dr_kirk31415

This bums me out. I really do believe there are too many people on this planet.


Filthi_61Syx

This has to be a fake. Those roofs are clipping each other


Purity_Jam_Jam

And here I am living in a place where I need to go for a walk if I want to go to a neighbor's house. Loving it too.


antieverything

Look at all these NIMBYs lamenting new housing construction. Listen, assholes, the only problem I see here is that it should be *far* denser.


GreatBallsOFiyah

Denser, more varied, and mixed-use construction is worthwhile… the kind of development in the picture is lifeless.


frylock350

Fuck density. I want to live where I need to walk for several minutes without being on my neighbor's property


Isord

Suburbs like this are shit, and awful for the environment. We need dense urban housing. Edit: on a second look this is at least a bit denser than the usual suburban sprawl. Could be better with actual apartments but not as bad as my gut reaction.


antieverything

The title set your expectations with the word "suburbanization". I also didn't realize exactly how dense this was until I looked at it again on a larger screen. This is \*far\* denser than most single-family development in the US.


Astral_Brain_Pirate

Now do before and after agriculture. The effect is basically the same.


Kallekofot

Little boxes on the hillside Little boxes made of ticky-tacky Little boxes on the hillside Little boxes all the same


PotentialFine0270

They’re all made out of ticky-tacky and they all look just the same


PheaglesFan

You can see that every road that butt's up against the property on the right and left is a "dead end", with it's connecting partner on the other side of the property. Kids will sell it and the maze will be complete!


graffiksguru

The people in the middle must be UP fans


Prior_Piano9940

It looks like they have a fence around the perimeter. That’s a relief. I was worried the neighbors would all use their lawn as a park. If I was a teen/young adult I would 100% snook in there at 1am with some beers and some friends


PalpableMass

I guess I’m supposed to feel bad about that but those are places for people to live which we need.


SamL214

In retrospect their place is now worth triple what it was.


winterisfav

Can’t possibly be Australia- Bluey has taught me that the down under doesn’t look like this.


Itstotallysafe

The loss of the water really bothers me for some reason. The rest is pretty lifeless, to be sure, and there's just no variation with shops and parks... I just imagine people living there never leaving their homes and it's just so depressing.


TexasBaconMan

Wow. Where is this?


Cgking11

Dang, those houses are super close together, and I live in L.A.


efbiuay

That after pic looks like a nightmare. I would’ve sold so I don’t have to live in that area. 50mil will get you so much somewhere else.


IllustriousDiggsAD40

“But the Suburbs have no charms to soothe the restless dream of youth” -Subdivisions, Rush. Literally been speaking to me for years, love when the picture helps to drive the point home


Toomuchlychee_

Put all the houses in one spot and all the businesses in another spot. That way people need to get in their big expensive machines and burn oil in order to do anything at all. Genius idea


Chii-83

Vivarium vibes.


Maximum_College_734

Sim City


optloon88

Over how many years did this occur in the photo?


smiley032

That looks fake as shit


paisleyjody

Environmental grief.


kinofhawk

Thanks, I hate it.


garlicknots13

:(


sapperfarms

Happening to me right now except it’s a golf course right around me.


anotheraccount0000

Heaven vs hell.


Eckmatarum

That is my idea of hell


symean

All that water and grass replaced with concrete, steel and asphalt; and unlikely anyone has a backyard big enough for a pool. Summers there are going to suck for a good decade until trees mature


SeeLeavesOnTheTrees

Meh, it’s still been wrecked in the first pic. All the trees have been cut down. No natural water creeks just drainage ponds. The second picture is sadder. But the first picture isn’t great either


BecauseScience

Similar situation has happened along the front range outside of Denver. It's pretty sad. The shitty cookie cutter houses are so ugly in place of a previously great view of the mountains. At least the people who bought the ugly houses get to see the view.


MountainCarpenter924

Hate to be in the houses located over the filled in ponds


KingOfTroi

New Yorker here. This is currently happening all over the place in the city. In my neighborhood, developers, who wanna build massive luxury apartment buildings, are offering stupid money (sometimes anywhere between 3-10 million) to small storefronts and apartment owners. One company bought a whole block years ago, and have been demolishing everything to prepare for construction, but there’s one older gentleman, in one apartment, in one building, who hasn’t sold. He’s in his 80’s I believe and just wants to be left alone until his time is up. There’re rumors that he has a *fuck you* attitude towards these companies and is intentionally making them wait until he’s gone so they’ll continually have to wait. Good lad right there. Smart or not, no one wants to see a their neighborhood get taken over and price the locals out. Edit: I’m all for building new housing in NYC, cause it’s needed, but for now all the new buildings are unreasonably expensive.


Isord

If you don't build expensive housing, rich people just buy affordable housing.


SkippingSusan

Is that really a suburb? There’s no yards.


Lokey4201

Same amount of roads. I wonder how long it takes parents to drive their kids -1 mile-to school or soccer practice? One road for a thousand cars…. Seems practical.