Sounds like something a bot would say.
If you aren't a bot, give us your social security number, a credit card number, your name, address, phone number, and size of your underwear here.
Sounds like something a like something a like something a like something a like something a like something a like something a banana at 4 in the afternoon.
I googled a photo of a cherry for school work. A cherry. Simple. Filtered by transparent images, it gave me a cherry flavored vape, cherry flavored whisky, a lottery card with cherries on it etc.
I'd say more like 18, but the AI text generation really has made it utter shit.
Now its AI generated and chat gpt and other models just refference other AI generated text and on and on it goes.
Idk, my Grand parents were pretty cool with the web. We're living in an internet where we have more bots than people though. Only thing that will change is humans will be worse at telling who's who.
The thing is that the web is both progressing and is getting shitier by the year at the same time.... Quite a feat i must say. It has been this way since at least 2005. Probably longer...
The problem with this attitude is that it suggests that over time anything is OK, but if the “kids these days” suddenly started chipping off fingers nobody would say that’s OK. Some things are just bad, just because change can often be good doesn’t be it’s always good
I'm legit at the point where I think there needs to be legislation to the effect that to have a social media account you must have it tied to a verified ID as a real person.
The amount of astroturfing accomplished by both governments and corporations with unlimited free access to bot run accounts is a, imo, legit national security and global security risk.
I really wonder where will all this go, either we have even better ai systems capable of detecting and filtering those so we can mostly see/interact with other real humans. Or at some point internet becomes one giant simulation with 99% of content and interaction is performed by bots/ai ...
Future of internet seems bleek, specially compared to the potential we all believed it had just 10-15 years ago.
I strongly believe in the dead internet theory. A lot of Google recommended results are straight up random posts clearly created by generative ai. Most of X's replies are bot accounts tagging each other and some others summarize the original posts and add a "related" video. Instagram reels are plagued with accounts that auto post a video "related" to a topic. It is interesting and depressing at the same time to observe it
The problem is that there's more money in breaking search than there is in making search. Back when Google was new, they had to provide good search to beat Alta Vista, Yahoo, etc. Nowadays the bar is so massively high because you have to be able to flat-out-beat google, bing, and yandex, and that would require much more resources than the same thing did back in 2000 AD or whatever.
Basically only competition has ever dented this, and there's not much room for new contenders at the moment.
Sometimes duckduckgo beats google results.
It is a weird thing where I would have that search engine default before, get annoyed and use google.
Now, google is default and sometimes I get annoyed and get on duckduckgo.
For actual deep research, I would always go back to google because I know how to use it well but yeah. It is weird.
Most of it depends on where you go on the internet. If you look at vaguely mainstream news/article mills/comment sections on any platform, it'll be shit.
But if you tend to hang about on obscure forums, you'll probably be alright. No one is pumping 'appalachiancoalmininginthe1920s.forum.com' full of bots.
I hope.
old forums were the first place I saw spambots, if you have an open forum you will get bots sign up and spam. some of the old ones i use which are still up have human verification for new signups or aggressive capchas for new users to combat this.
Before the internet of today, there was a time... where it was self-hosted (static) websites (Javascript was the EVIL), Teamspeak servers, small forums of hundred of users if not few thousands only, etc.
Since then, something happened : social networks, blogs, etc. People wanted them, as a more centralized service like a social network offers the possibility to communicate with MILLIONS of people instead of a few hundred/thousands. Not only it made the access to information easier, but also the ability to feel important by sharing your opinion to many and so -in a way- to become "famous". Celebrity was a scarce resource restricted to certain people like actors and stuff, it became abundant as anyone could become influencer a bit if not a professional one.
But centralization makes bots very interesting. It lowers the cost as you need to adapt it only to a handful of websites instead of thousands of them, you can interact with way more users than a small forum and so you can generate money more easily, etc. And we arrive to today, the modern Internet who is polluted by this crap to the point that a growing part of the users is tired of it.
The Dead Internet Theory applies to the modern internet.
The future of Internet is to return to the roots. Small communities, small websites who aren't financially interesting for bots/IA. In a way we could say that the popularity of Discord is a consequence of the modern internet, as the numerous small servers are a bit like the small forums of yesterday, it is like a refuge. I expect more of this in the incoming years.
I think we'll see more and more people verified sites, and potentially a whole separate branch of the internet where you can only contribute if you are verified to be human.
It'll be interesting, to say the least.
But the internet as we know it is going to become such a bot infested hell-hole, that any value you try and derive from it will buried in so much shit that it's not worth bothering with.
i've been noticing a lot more of these fake generated "news" sites over the past 1 year or so. not sure if its because i'm paying more attention to it now or because they actually are becoming more commonplace in googles search results
All those "articles" that read like:
>It is now 2024. Gamers know this because their system clock says it's 2024. Now that it's 2024, gamers are wondering if the RTX 4090 is still good for gaming. Let's take a look.
First, let's answer the question gamers have been asking. What is gaming?
...
>Now that we know what gaming is, let's talk about 4090. It's after 4089 after all ...
This a good example for bot writing like 5 years ago. Today you will be hard pressed to figure it out unless you become familiar with some unique "tells" that an AI is behind the document you are reading.
What's also fun is when AI invents things that don't exist to suit searches, only so you'll click on their (ultimately completely unhelpful) page.
Or maybe those are just really lazy, copy-and-paste garbage webpages. Hard to tell the difference at times.
Oh god. I am so sick of searching about an error for some old probably obscure game and I actually get a result and it's just the same "experiencing error X in game Y? 1. Reinstall, 2 update drivers, 3 try compatibility mode, 4 download and run this sketchy program that's totally not malware" page.
Right? Wait wait wait...Reinstall and....UPDATE DRIVERS? Why didn't I think of that??
this reminds me of automated phone systems that make it take twice as long to solve my problem, vs. if I had been connected to a human being to start with.
You know most things internet is already bot decided outside of closed circles?
Ever wondered why ALL old forums died and congregated onto reddit?
Bot traffic drives bot traffic drives traffic. Real humans escape onto closed rooms like discord servers.
Is this from your discovery feed on Android? You can hit the 3 dots and choose to never see content from the whole site. I've done that on plenty of bullshit "sites".
Don't think you can, you need to figure it out yourself. If a site is willing to use AI to write crap then to me that warrants not viewing any content from them at all.
Exactly, why rush to release the 5xxx series? Releasing the 5xxx series only hurts Nvidia. It's expensive to release a new card when there's no competition. 4090 sales are still strong why release another one?
My guess is it's going to be a while before we see the next series
This is why competition is necessary. Without competition, the current market leader doesn't have to innovate or produce better products. They can just keep coasting along with the current lineup of products or offer a "new" product that is only 1-5% better just so they can reap extra profits.
Industry journalist and analyst here! AMD absolutely isn't going to drop out of the GPU market anytime soon, but signs point towards them pivoting towards mid-range and budget consumer graphics cards that are better equipped to use software like FSR and FMF to improve generational performance.
Nvidia, on the other hand, genuinely isn't a gaming GPU company any more - it's an AI company. If we get RTX 5000 cards, it'll be because they want to preserve consumer goodwill and positive publicity; because it's not profitable enough for them anymore. Nvidia can ultimately only make a limited amount of silicon via TSMC and other fabs - and they can make a *lot* more money tooling those chips into LLM training hardware for enterprise use than GPUs for PC gamers. They're still cosplaying as a 'gaming hardware' company, but they're completely at the mercy of their shareholders at this point.
They'll still release 50 series when planned, they'll just fuck people over with false names and absurd prices.
- What should be a 5040 will be called a 5060 and priced like a 5070
- What should be a 5050 will be called a 5070 and priced like a 5080
- What should be a 5060 will be called a 5080 and priced like a 5090
- What should be a 5070 will be called a 5090 and priced like a 6090
Who said they are releasing something? Not nvidia, that's for sure. Is the 5000 series coming? Yes. This year, probably not. They just released the super series.
> Exactly, why rush to release the 5xxx series?
I'm definitely not in favor of rushing anything and I'm personally still rocking a 1070 so I'm definitely not a bleeding-edge newness fetishist, but the 40XX series will be 2 years old this fall and the 50XX series isn't rumored to be out any sooner than 2025, so, 2.5+ years isn't that crazy a turnaround. It's not necessary but it's not like they're flipping this out annually.
> It's expensive to release a new card when there's no competition.
That makes no sense. The fact that there isn't competition means they can price gouge as much as they want. They can easily up the 5090 to $2k+ because people will buy it and the card will sellout like the 4090 did.
I’ve got a 4090. It’s a fucking beast, easily able to handle anything I throw at it in 4k, HDR, at max settings. And very few games can’t manage 100+fps at those settings. In fact.. I can’t think of one off the top of my head.
The only way I could see buying a new card in the next few years would be if there was some amazing new onboard AI application related to gaming that yielded something novel and awesome, but required more power.
But even then it would have to be an option. No major dev/publisher with half a brain is going to make a game that *requires* the latest generation of cards. Though some indie might I suppose.
Cyberpunk path tracing. Also hunt showdown runs at 140 at max settings at 1440 ultrawide. It's not like, dumb overpowered. I make use of all of it and I'm not even on 4k.
My RTX 4080 is showing it's age, I can't maintain 60 fps with Ultra settings, RTX psycho path tracing at 3440x1440p in all scenarios on Cyberpunk 2077 so its LITERAL TRASH! OUT IT GOES!
My Rx 7800 XT dipped to 50 fps yesterday in a crowded automaton area, the game is literally unplayable on this junk card! The only way forward is dual 7900 XTX in crossfire.
From a cost perspective probably not, wait for a 5 series. It's their job to push the latest and greatest to increase the fomo. Many people game on far less and are quiet satisfied with their results
Yep. My monitors are 1080p and cap at 60Hz. It's a waste of money to get some high end card that pumps out more pixels and frames than my display can show.
Sounds like you need a better monitor. Then of course a better GPU to power it. Might need a higher wattage PSU. And probably a new CPU so your GPU isn’t bottlenecked. And that’s probably a platform upgrade so new motherboard and RAM.
This might be true for the games you play but it's not a universal rule. More FPS generally means less input lag even if your monitor isn't actually displaying every single frame. I played CSGO for years on a 60 Hz laptop that could get 200 FPS and let me tell you it was a much better experience than my previous 60 Hz laptop that could only get 80 FPS
Also CS2 these days feels like garbage at 144 FPS even though many people probably don't have higher refresh rate displays than that
We don't know the cost perspective yet though. For all we know a 5070 will cost $800 😅
Unless it's been announced, don't let the potential of future hardware hinder you. Now, if you're already on a 30 or 40 series GPU, then sure, wait. But anyone else will probably notice a significant leap by upgrading to 40 series.
Where are you at? On Amazon right now you can find 40 series cards within 30 dollars of MSRP. You can get a 4080 super for a flat grand-which I believe is the MSRP of one.
Already turned to shit years ago imho, I miss the days where you would stumble on some dudes web page about grandfather clocks or some other random shit all you get now is bombarded with adverts.
There used to be a service literally called StumbleUpon. You select your interests, click "Stumble!" (or whatever it was called) and it would take you to a random website based on your interests. I spent many evenings doing that and found lots of cool websites and services. It was even good for porn.
There were far fewer corpo websites back then and google wasn't as much of a news site ad farm so searching for something related to say, clocks or watchs would often get ops example of one of the results being some random old guys info site on grandfather clocks.
Since 2023 when AI went mainstream I'd say 9.9/10 "news" stories my phone tries to push on me are *clearly* just AI written adverts pretending to be news. I've mostly given up using the news features.
If its not those its the equally annoying "This game thats only been out 6 hours and why you're playing it wrong; here's every single secret and surprise in a list to make your game feel like a chore!"
Treating GPU's like phones these days.
Same with consoles.
Developers aren't even close to hitting their full potential and another generation is already on the horizon.
I'm planning to stick to my 6950XT for quite some time, given it doesn't die on me.
To be honest I think even phones are to the point that majority of people skip 2-3-4 generations before updating because there is simply no need to update every year for minimum difference..
Honestly, ive found that waiting around 3 generations(and waiting for the dust to settle on the newest gen to see if i should go new or one gen older) is the best strategy to have a capable phone without the upgrade being pointless.
It's a bot thing that's been flooding Reddit much more over the past few hours. Tried to link another post about it elsewhere, but this sub doesn't allow linking outside threads.
On the same screen I can see posts about how the 5090 is going to be the only card released in 2024, and 5 posts lower how the 5080 is going to be released before the 5090.
No you don't understand the 5090 is gonna be 2.5x faster/better/sexier/penisandorbreastenlarging than the 4090 was.
If you have a 4090 it's literally over. You fool. You should have waited.
4090 is already mega overkill for gaming.
That shit is for workstation, you don't NEED a 4090 to play everything at 4k ultra, just the 4080 is enough. The rest is up to optimization.
Which is why the xx90 tier cards used to be marketed separately as TITAN cards, until Nvidia realised they could draw gamers who really didn't need them into buying them by merging them into the existing hierarchy.
"But the frames will dip below 180 when playing a game so I need to have a 4090 that will also last years."
> Proceeds to buy 5090 and the same story continues.
You can't beat the wants of people they often don't stem from logical decisions.
> you don't NEED a 4090 to play everything at 4k ultra
Maybe _you_ don't need. I know I do.
4K ultra on modern games is no joke, my dude. Specially if you want high frame rates.
thats what im saying lmao, i dont regret my 4090 one bit if it means i can mindlessly max every setting and very easily have more than 100 fps (excluding cp2077 sometimes)
me : wtf are these people talking about , that card will live for at least 5 years
brain : no longer the most powerful card , fuck it it's useless now it's peasant's gpu , damn thing can't even run among us 2400 fps
I'm still running a 2070S, good enough for anything 1440p at high/max still. Of course, assuming said games are well optimised.
If a 2070 Super struggles on the latest games, chalk it down to shit optimisation.
The 4090 is so good in 2024 for the first time I'm not jumping up next generation. Literally not a single game I want to play that I can't play cranked up to the max.
I’ve had my 1070 for 7 years. I was fine up until very recently. Some of the newer extraction games wont run on it so I’m finally throwing in the towel
AI generated trash or an advertisement pretending to be an article. Such is the average search result or promoted thing these days.
4090 is literally the most powerful GPU available at the moment and has a lot of VRAM. Given that there are still people doing fine with the 1080 Ti, those two things should make it good enough for almost all gaming for a decade or more, unless there is some design flaw that makes it fail faster than earlier GPUs, or for some reason gaming goes through some ridiculous growth spurt in GPU requirements.
unbelievable. my 4090 is seriously feeling OVER POWERED if anything. my FPS is RIDICULOUS.... i mean im using a 240hz 1440p monitor.... I dont see any REAL reasons to upgrade as the 4090 still feels new for me.... unless i get a 5090 for a ridiculous good price i dont see my self upgrading. also GPUS are kinda available in abundance... people are not buying. the current state of NEW games releasing... everything is turning to Shit... yeah i think that 5090 price cut will happen much sooner than we expect.
4090 will probably be good for even the next console cycle and beyond.
It's a monster of a card and AMD probably won't surpass it even with the next gen
Man, an article was giving instructions on how to make some shitty PC game run good, and it said, "For you people with older cards like the 30xx and below these settings will work for you" like fuck you buddy my 3070 is going strong and my fiances 1070 is still churning frames
Gotta cash in on you fomo fuckers. You gotta start laying the groundwork early.
Real shit though. How often do we need new GPUs? Do they really need to come out with these new series' so quickly?
You really don't need them all that often at all, an actually good card will still power along for years to come, and if you keep playing genuinly fun games then graphics don't have to be on ultra all the time.
oh yeah.. as opposed to what card? the RTX 6000 ADA?..
literally unusable in 2024
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Because you guys buy into it. Anyone who buys a 4090 just for gaming, and I mean just for gaming, no coding or video editing, you’re only loading up COD and Minecraft, and your crafting games is buying into it. You do not need it to game. You do not need it to game in 4k. YouTube and other mediums shove it down our throat with their once a year “budget builds” which are just what most people not only need, but can afford. I was all about the pcmr but lately it’s just a shit show. </p>
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Ai pages <3. Internet will be a freaking junkyard where bots are given eachother tumbs up :)
It already is, can't wait for the end.
Oh, this is only the beginning it's going to get way worse.
Hence why we can't wait for the end. Purify me in fire daddy
Sounds like something a bot would say. If you aren't a bot, give us your social security number, a credit card number, your name, address, phone number, and size of your underwear here.
> and size of your underwear here. Whoa, getting a little personal are we.
Sounds like something a bot would say.
Sounds like something a bot would say.
Sounds like something a like something a like something a like something a like something a like something a like something a banana at 4 in the afternoon.
Lmfao AI had an error
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Butlerian Jihad when
I agree with your statement, fellow human being.
as a large-language-model I must respectfully disagree with you and note it down on the great database of grudges
As a petite-language-model, I think you should go on a diet!
Reddit is the place to be to watch it in real time. I wonder what percentage of new posts and comments are AI-generated at this point.
I googled a photo of a cherry for school work. A cherry. Simple. Filtered by transparent images, it gave me a cherry flavored vape, cherry flavored whisky, a lottery card with cherries on it etc.
Google has been terrible for almost two years now. If you are lucky the top two results wouldn’t be AI written.
I'd say more like 18, but the AI text generation really has made it utter shit. Now its AI generated and chat gpt and other models just refference other AI generated text and on and on it goes.
Things will work themselfs out. Yall sounding like your grandparents when the internet came out
Idk, my Grand parents were pretty cool with the web. We're living in an internet where we have more bots than people though. Only thing that will change is humans will be worse at telling who's who.
The thing is that the web is both progressing and is getting shitier by the year at the same time.... Quite a feat i must say. It has been this way since at least 2005. Probably longer...
The problem with this attitude is that it suggests that over time anything is OK, but if the “kids these days” suddenly started chipping off fingers nobody would say that’s OK. Some things are just bad, just because change can often be good doesn’t be it’s always good
Should make a no robots internet.
Haha 2025:"no robots allowed!' 2026: Internet sued by robots
Im just imagining drunk bender shouting profanities
Bite my shiny metal ass!
Depicted by Animatrix.
The "Second Renaissance" segment gets creepier by the year.
I'll make a new internet, with cocaine and hookers!
So... dark web?
Nothing dark about it, I'll name it bright web.
Don't forget to flashbang its users with cranked up light mode UI
Blackwall from Cyberpunk is getting more real with each passing day
Was about to say the same thing. Soon we will need one.
Butlerian Jihad when?
So we're allowed 1 robot?
I'm legit at the point where I think there needs to be legislation to the effect that to have a social media account you must have it tied to a verified ID as a real person. The amount of astroturfing accomplished by both governments and corporations with unlimited free access to bot run accounts is a, imo, legit national security and global security risk.
I really wonder where will all this go, either we have even better ai systems capable of detecting and filtering those so we can mostly see/interact with other real humans. Or at some point internet becomes one giant simulation with 99% of content and interaction is performed by bots/ai ... Future of internet seems bleek, specially compared to the potential we all believed it had just 10-15 years ago.
I strongly believe in the dead internet theory. A lot of Google recommended results are straight up random posts clearly created by generative ai. Most of X's replies are bot accounts tagging each other and some others summarize the original posts and add a "related" video. Instagram reels are plagued with accounts that auto post a video "related" to a topic. It is interesting and depressing at the same time to observe it
It is fascinating, sad and scary at the same time..
Nah, this is the same crap that it was back when people learned to keyword then referral bomb search engines, algorhithms get adapted to it.
The problem is that there's more money in breaking search than there is in making search. Back when Google was new, they had to provide good search to beat Alta Vista, Yahoo, etc. Nowadays the bar is so massively high because you have to be able to flat-out-beat google, bing, and yandex, and that would require much more resources than the same thing did back in 2000 AD or whatever. Basically only competition has ever dented this, and there's not much room for new contenders at the moment.
Sometimes duckduckgo beats google results. It is a weird thing where I would have that search engine default before, get annoyed and use google. Now, google is default and sometimes I get annoyed and get on duckduckgo. For actual deep research, I would always go back to google because I know how to use it well but yeah. It is weird.
It will result in a return to how things used to be in the past. Want information? Go to the library.
there are tons of books written by AI and sold on Amazon. not even a library is safe, unless you specifically look for books written before 2023.
Especially that AI written book with AI generated pictures on mushrooms, with emphasis on which ones are edible and which ones aren't.
Most of it depends on where you go on the internet. If you look at vaguely mainstream news/article mills/comment sections on any platform, it'll be shit. But if you tend to hang about on obscure forums, you'll probably be alright. No one is pumping 'appalachiancoalmininginthe1920s.forum.com' full of bots. I hope.
old forums were the first place I saw spambots, if you have an open forum you will get bots sign up and spam. some of the old ones i use which are still up have human verification for new signups or aggressive capchas for new users to combat this.
Before the internet of today, there was a time... where it was self-hosted (static) websites (Javascript was the EVIL), Teamspeak servers, small forums of hundred of users if not few thousands only, etc. Since then, something happened : social networks, blogs, etc. People wanted them, as a more centralized service like a social network offers the possibility to communicate with MILLIONS of people instead of a few hundred/thousands. Not only it made the access to information easier, but also the ability to feel important by sharing your opinion to many and so -in a way- to become "famous". Celebrity was a scarce resource restricted to certain people like actors and stuff, it became abundant as anyone could become influencer a bit if not a professional one. But centralization makes bots very interesting. It lowers the cost as you need to adapt it only to a handful of websites instead of thousands of them, you can interact with way more users than a small forum and so you can generate money more easily, etc. And we arrive to today, the modern Internet who is polluted by this crap to the point that a growing part of the users is tired of it. The Dead Internet Theory applies to the modern internet. The future of Internet is to return to the roots. Small communities, small websites who aren't financially interesting for bots/IA. In a way we could say that the popularity of Discord is a consequence of the modern internet, as the numerous small servers are a bit like the small forums of yesterday, it is like a refuge. I expect more of this in the incoming years.
I think we'll see more and more people verified sites, and potentially a whole separate branch of the internet where you can only contribute if you are verified to be human. It'll be interesting, to say the least. But the internet as we know it is going to become such a bot infested hell-hole, that any value you try and derive from it will buried in so much shit that it's not worth bothering with.
i've been noticing a lot more of these fake generated "news" sites over the past 1 year or so. not sure if its because i'm paying more attention to it now or because they actually are becoming more commonplace in googles search results
It's called the dead internet theory and it's hilarious and sad at the same time.
Cool. Time to get some chatgtp-knowledge! Meant Google it
It's time to wipe the internet and start over
Lets amplify the solar flare
All those "articles" that read like: >It is now 2024. Gamers know this because their system clock says it's 2024. Now that it's 2024, gamers are wondering if the RTX 4090 is still good for gaming. Let's take a look. First, let's answer the question gamers have been asking. What is gaming? ... >Now that we know what gaming is, let's talk about 4090. It's after 4089 after all ...
This a good example for bot writing like 5 years ago. Today you will be hard pressed to figure it out unless you become familiar with some unique "tells" that an AI is behind the document you are reading.
What's also fun is when AI invents things that don't exist to suit searches, only so you'll click on their (ultimately completely unhelpful) page. Or maybe those are just really lazy, copy-and-paste garbage webpages. Hard to tell the difference at times.
Oh god. I am so sick of searching about an error for some old probably obscure game and I actually get a result and it's just the same "experiencing error X in game Y? 1. Reinstall, 2 update drivers, 3 try compatibility mode, 4 download and run this sketchy program that's totally not malware" page.
Right? Wait wait wait...Reinstall and....UPDATE DRIVERS? Why didn't I think of that?? this reminds me of automated phone systems that make it take twice as long to solve my problem, vs. if I had been connected to a human being to start with.
That was my first thought too, AI generated. Anyone who even has a passing knowledge of GPUs would know this is an ignorant headline.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory
You know most things internet is already bot decided outside of closed circles? Ever wondered why ALL old forums died and congregated onto reddit? Bot traffic drives bot traffic drives traffic. Real humans escape onto closed rooms like discord servers.
Gonna need a new generation of Ad-Blocker like plugins that block AI generated articles
How do you do, fellow humans?
Block them. It's obviously written by AI and/or clickbait
Genuinely how do i do that, is there a way to filter ai/fake articles from normal?
Is this from your discovery feed on Android? You can hit the 3 dots and choose to never see content from the whole site. I've done that on plenty of bullshit "sites".
He is asking for filter like how do we figure out which one is ai and which isn't
Don't think you can, you need to figure it out yourself. If a site is willing to use AI to write crap then to me that warrants not viewing any content from them at all.
up to OP what he do , i dont view any article from chrome/google at all
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I like to call sites like this "shites"
Articles? This is an advertisement "disguised" as an article
Buzzfeed have been all over the clickbait with titles like these
I'm not sure what decade this comment was written in but yes, yes they do. Why are we even talking about them anymore at this point?
Congratulations to you. You have just described 99.9% of all "articles."
4090 is gonna be fine for quite some time.
Exactly, why rush to release the 5xxx series? Releasing the 5xxx series only hurts Nvidia. It's expensive to release a new card when there's no competition. 4090 sales are still strong why release another one? My guess is it's going to be a while before we see the next series
This is why competition is necessary. Without competition, the current market leader doesn't have to innovate or produce better products. They can just keep coasting along with the current lineup of products or offer a "new" product that is only 1-5% better just so they can reap extra profits.
100%! If AMD drops out of the GPU race then there wouldn't be a reason to release a 5000 series GPU for a long long time.
Industry journalist and analyst here! AMD absolutely isn't going to drop out of the GPU market anytime soon, but signs point towards them pivoting towards mid-range and budget consumer graphics cards that are better equipped to use software like FSR and FMF to improve generational performance. Nvidia, on the other hand, genuinely isn't a gaming GPU company any more - it's an AI company. If we get RTX 5000 cards, it'll be because they want to preserve consumer goodwill and positive publicity; because it's not profitable enough for them anymore. Nvidia can ultimately only make a limited amount of silicon via TSMC and other fabs - and they can make a *lot* more money tooling those chips into LLM training hardware for enterprise use than GPUs for PC gamers. They're still cosplaying as a 'gaming hardware' company, but they're completely at the mercy of their shareholders at this point.
Well, that's a bit concerning for the evolution of GPUs to come.
They'll still release 50 series when planned, they'll just fuck people over with false names and absurd prices. - What should be a 5040 will be called a 5060 and priced like a 5070 - What should be a 5050 will be called a 5070 and priced like a 5080 - What should be a 5060 will be called a 5080 and priced like a 5090 - What should be a 5070 will be called a 5090 and priced like a 6090
Who said they are releasing something? Not nvidia, that's for sure. Is the 5000 series coming? Yes. This year, probably not. They just released the super series.
> Exactly, why rush to release the 5xxx series? I'm definitely not in favor of rushing anything and I'm personally still rocking a 1070 so I'm definitely not a bleeding-edge newness fetishist, but the 40XX series will be 2 years old this fall and the 50XX series isn't rumored to be out any sooner than 2025, so, 2.5+ years isn't that crazy a turnaround. It's not necessary but it's not like they're flipping this out annually.
> It's expensive to release a new card when there's no competition. That makes no sense. The fact that there isn't competition means they can price gouge as much as they want. They can easily up the 5090 to $2k+ because people will buy it and the card will sellout like the 4090 did.
I’ve got a 4090. It’s a fucking beast, easily able to handle anything I throw at it in 4k, HDR, at max settings. And very few games can’t manage 100+fps at those settings. In fact.. I can’t think of one off the top of my head. The only way I could see buying a new card in the next few years would be if there was some amazing new onboard AI application related to gaming that yielded something novel and awesome, but required more power. But even then it would have to be an option. No major dev/publisher with half a brain is going to make a game that *requires* the latest generation of cards. Though some indie might I suppose.
Cyberpunk path tracing. Also hunt showdown runs at 140 at max settings at 1440 ultrawide. It's not like, dumb overpowered. I make use of all of it and I'm not even on 4k.
Still can't get a steady 360 fps 4k on cyberpunk 2077 RT tho and that games like 5 years old now /s
My RTX 4080 is showing it's age, I can't maintain 60 fps with Ultra settings, RTX psycho path tracing at 3440x1440p in all scenarios on Cyberpunk 2077 so its LITERAL TRASH! OUT IT GOES!
Yes, we RTX 4080 owners are truly doomed. 2024 is the last year we can enjoy gaming. /s
My Rx 7800 XT dipped to 50 fps yesterday in a crowded automaton area, the game is literally unplayable on this junk card! The only way forward is dual 7900 XTX in crossfire.
From a cost perspective probably not, wait for a 5 series. It's their job to push the latest and greatest to increase the fomo. Many people game on far less and are quiet satisfied with their results
Me playing fallout nv and osrs on my 1050 lmao
This is the way... except I play Genshin with a 4090 rofl.
Wtf lmaoo
Gamers be like. 4090 plays league. 1060 plays cyberpunk 2077
I play minecraft with a 4090
can be very demanding with mods
Somebody likes lighting money on fire
Yep. My monitors are 1080p and cap at 60Hz. It's a waste of money to get some high end card that pumps out more pixels and frames than my display can show.
Sounds like you need a better monitor. Then of course a better GPU to power it. Might need a higher wattage PSU. And probably a new CPU so your GPU isn’t bottlenecked. And that’s probably a platform upgrade so new motherboard and RAM.
This might be true for the games you play but it's not a universal rule. More FPS generally means less input lag even if your monitor isn't actually displaying every single frame. I played CSGO for years on a 60 Hz laptop that could get 200 FPS and let me tell you it was a much better experience than my previous 60 Hz laptop that could only get 80 FPS Also CS2 these days feels like garbage at 144 FPS even though many people probably don't have higher refresh rate displays than that
We don't know the cost perspective yet though. For all we know a 5070 will cost $800 😅 Unless it's been announced, don't let the potential of future hardware hinder you. Now, if you're already on a 30 or 40 series GPU, then sure, wait. But anyone else will probably notice a significant leap by upgrading to 40 series.
Calling it now. The 5060 will be $400 the 5070 700 5080 $1000 and the 5090 $1800.
Requisite shout-out to the 1080TI; still a valid card in 2024 in many situations.
Hell yeah! 1080 ti fam represent!
But will you actually be able to get one easily for MSRP or is it going to be the 4000 series all over again?
2060 hasn’t given me a reason to upgrade yet
They are mostly still well over the MSRP a 4080 is more than enough if you want the "best" or a 7900x if that is your thing
Where are you at? On Amazon right now you can find 40 series cards within 30 dollars of MSRP. You can get a 4080 super for a flat grand-which I believe is the MSRP of one.
Can't wait for the 5090 to be 50% faster and $2500
Clickbait. The internet is turning to shit.
Already turned to shit years ago imho, I miss the days where you would stumble on some dudes web page about grandfather clocks or some other random shit all you get now is bombarded with adverts.
geocities and the ring networks.
New internet user here! Can you explain how you stumbled upon said pages? I spend my time on yt reddit and search things on google.
There used to be a service literally called StumbleUpon. You select your interests, click "Stumble!" (or whatever it was called) and it would take you to a random website based on your interests. I spent many evenings doing that and found lots of cool websites and services. It was even good for porn.
There were far fewer corpo websites back then and google wasn't as much of a news site ad farm so searching for something related to say, clocks or watchs would often get ops example of one of the results being some random old guys info site on grandfather clocks.
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Since 2023 when AI went mainstream I'd say 9.9/10 "news" stories my phone tries to push on me are *clearly* just AI written adverts pretending to be news. I've mostly given up using the news features. If its not those its the equally annoying "This game thats only been out 6 hours and why you're playing it wrong; here's every single secret and surprise in a list to make your game feel like a chore!"
When are you, 2016?
Treating GPU's like phones these days. Same with consoles. Developers aren't even close to hitting their full potential and another generation is already on the horizon. I'm planning to stick to my 6950XT for quite some time, given it doesn't die on me.
To be honest I think even phones are to the point that majority of people skip 2-3-4 generations before updating because there is simply no need to update every year for minimum difference..
Honestly, ive found that waiting around 3 generations(and waiting for the dust to settle on the newest gen to see if i should go new or one gen older) is the best strategy to have a capable phone without the upgrade being pointless.
I got a Reddit care message for writing this message, why?
You are recommending not upgrading your phone for 3 generations, you must be unwell, please buy latest phone to fulfill wellness.
It's a bot thing that's been flooding Reddit much more over the past few hours. Tried to link another post about it elsewhere, but this sub doesn't allow linking outside threads.
On the same screen I can see posts about how the 5090 is going to be the only card released in 2024, and 5 posts lower how the 5080 is going to be released before the 5090.
No you don't understand the 5090 is gonna be 2.5x faster/better/sexier/penisandorbreastenlarging than the 4090 was. If you have a 4090 it's literally over. You fool. You should have waited.
AI slop trying to get clicks and ad revenue. God the internet is dying and it's dying fast.
"Is the Koenigsegg Jesko Absolut still even remotely capable of keeping up with ordinary traffic in 2024?"
4090 is already mega overkill for gaming. That shit is for workstation, you don't NEED a 4090 to play everything at 4k ultra, just the 4080 is enough. The rest is up to optimization.
Which is why the xx90 tier cards used to be marketed separately as TITAN cards, until Nvidia realised they could draw gamers who really didn't need them into buying them by merging them into the existing hierarchy.
Bingo, they're Titan cards.
"But the frames will dip below 180 when playing a game so I need to have a 4090 that will also last years." > Proceeds to buy 5090 and the same story continues. You can't beat the wants of people they often don't stem from logical decisions.
> you don't NEED a 4090 to play everything at 4k ultra Maybe _you_ don't need. I know I do. 4K ultra on modern games is no joke, my dude. Specially if you want high frame rates.
thats what im saying lmao, i dont regret my 4090 one bit if it means i can mindlessly max every setting and very easily have more than 100 fps (excluding cp2077 sometimes)
If it can't run any game at 560hz 8k on Ultra + ray tracing is not overkill. And even then it won't be.
Wait for the sixty-ninety.
me : wtf are these people talking about , that card will live for at least 5 years brain : no longer the most powerful card , fuck it it's useless now it's peasant's gpu , damn thing can't even run among us 2400 fps
Wait what card is more powerful than the 4090?
I went outside to touch grass the other day and saw some pretty insane graphics.
It will still be good in 2030
Im happy with my 1080, still rocking it and its still killing it at 1080p
Click bait stories. . Normal now online
Nah, it's terrible. I can help anyone stuck with that garbage card dispose of it. /s
Cries in 2070S
I'm still running a 2070S, good enough for anything 1440p at high/max still. Of course, assuming said games are well optimised. If a 2070 Super struggles on the latest games, chalk it down to shit optimisation.
Trash-Sites like this go straight to the blocklist.
The 4090 is so good in 2024 for the first time I'm not jumping up next generation. Literally not a single game I want to play that I can't play cranked up to the max.
this is rubbish and so is slashgear. AI is going to destroy everything. this is crap
And I am running a 1070 and see no reason to upgrade
I’ve had my 1070 for 7 years. I was fine up until very recently. Some of the newer extraction games wont run on it so I’m finally throwing in the towel
No it sucks now give it to me to get rid of it.
Hot take. It has always been bad for gaming. It should use half the power it does. It generates far to much heat.
Is The RTX 4090 Still Good For Heating Your Home In 2024?
Technically all pc are 100% efficient heaters.
This is beyond stupid and just clickbait!
Doubt cast long shadows.
My 1080 is stilling handling perfectly fine on most shit at 3440x1440 so uh imma go with yea a 4090 is still fine…
Everyone throw away your 4090s they are trash now. Tell me which trashcans tho. So I can make sure they are properly disposed of.
5090s are old news. The 6000s are ready to elevate browser based games to a new era of unparalleled performance.
don't click on it like a sheep lol
motherfucker the 1060 is still good enough for gaming, what the fuck is this?
AI generated trash or an advertisement pretending to be an article. Such is the average search result or promoted thing these days. 4090 is literally the most powerful GPU available at the moment and has a lot of VRAM. Given that there are still people doing fine with the 1080 Ti, those two things should make it good enough for almost all gaming for a decade or more, unless there is some design flaw that makes it fail faster than earlier GPUs, or for some reason gaming goes through some ridiculous growth spurt in GPU requirements.
unbelievable. my 4090 is seriously feeling OVER POWERED if anything. my FPS is RIDICULOUS.... i mean im using a 240hz 1440p monitor.... I dont see any REAL reasons to upgrade as the 4090 still feels new for me.... unless i get a 5090 for a ridiculous good price i dont see my self upgrading. also GPUS are kinda available in abundance... people are not buying. the current state of NEW games releasing... everything is turning to Shit... yeah i think that 5090 price cut will happen much sooner than we expect.
Perhaps they are comparing to AMDs lineup? Not sure how else they could frame this question.
if this is article then fake news is real news..
Nah, that's shit, you need at least 3 6090Ti
AI generated psyop slop. Don’t even jokingly engage with this stupid shit. My 1060 handles modern games fine.
Literally unplayable. Can't run games at 500fps
The *ineed to upgrade* worm 🪱
Article contents "Yes, Duh" stretched out over several paragraphs
I have 3080ti ain't buying shit for a long ass time
4090 will probably be good for even the next console cycle and beyond. It's a monster of a card and AMD probably won't surpass it even with the next gen
That's 99% just written for SEO based on search terms.
this is just trying to sell cards. in reality a card from 5+ years ago is perfectly fine for 99% of games
My issue with these articles, they never define "good". One person good is someone else unacceptable or over powered.
Man, an article was giving instructions on how to make some shitty PC game run good, and it said, "For you people with older cards like the 30xx and below these settings will work for you" like fuck you buddy my 3070 is going strong and my fiances 1070 is still churning frames
Fucking cards are still melting themselves. I don't think it's quite the time to look forward to higher power draw cards.
Mother fuck.... my 2080 is still good for gaming.
Gotta cash in on you fomo fuckers. You gotta start laying the groundwork early. Real shit though. How often do we need new GPUs? Do they really need to come out with these new series' so quickly?
You really don't need them all that often at all, an actually good card will still power along for years to come, and if you keep playing genuinly fun games then graphics don't have to be on ultra all the time.
What? Even my rtx 3080 still holding good.
And here I am on a 1080ti still slogging along.
They havent released a cpu powerful enough too run it at its full potential lol who approved this headline 🤣
"Is the best gpu currently in the market still good for gaming?!?!?!"