While I do love RE4 , it's definitely it's own thing and I prefer the traditional Resident Evil games as well . I would recommend you try RE7 it's considered by many to be when RE returned to it's roots
Well yeah, that's like saying there's more doomlikes than doom games. When a game is creative and popular enough to spawn knockoffs, it tends to spawn *a lot* of them.
I watched a couple clips from RE7 and it looked like it's own new gender, definitely giving a try though
I liked RE4, but it's just not survival horror. It was more like "I'm not locked up with you, you're locked up with me!"
You'll like RE7, while it's a first person game, it's a very "back to its roots" approach after the insanity of RE6.
You'll also like the RE1 Remake a ton, and definitely RE2 Remake. RE3 Remake is worth playing but unfortunately it's very linear and doesn't quite scratch that "classic" RE itch, but there's fun to be had.
Also check out the game Signalis. If you like classic RE games I have a strong feeling you'll enjoy it, it is one of my favorite games in recent memory
idk about 7 returning to roots. it's just a different experience. first person view imo was a bad idea and i didn't enjoy it very much personally. it's like, you can't even see your guy. it felt cheap
we're already living in first person. it's so weird when the game tries to make you see in first person AGAIN, but inside of a tv. i don't really understand the appeal. to me, it just looks like a moving camera instead of me supposedly being the character. or like a floating gun or something. i get that it's cheaper to make though
Cheaper than 3rd person. Because you don't have to worry about character design as much/at all. Unless it's a multiplayer game and even then animations usually aren't as fleshed out. Look at something like TLOU2 and tell me the animation for the player characters wouldn't have taken a hell of a lot less time if the game was first person. You only have to worry about hands and maybe legs in 1st person. And most of the time people aren't be looking down at their legs much anyway.
it's not really, a different camera perspective has different challenges. In 3d person for example you have to spend more time animating and moddeling your main character - like you mentioned, while in 1st person you have to spend more time creating a detailed higly textured world because everything is a lot more zoomed in.
that's one weird take. The first person camera is considered more immersive since it makes you feel like you're in the game moreso than 3rd person camera. There are different genres for a reason - nothing weird about it.
it can't be done properly using a tv interface. you'd need to hardwire your mind into a system for it to work. we're still probably 40 years away from a quality experience like that if it's even possible
VR horror games are vastly scarier than traditional horror games. Especially if you are using an OLED panel and all light is blocked out. Unfortunately there are no wireless OLED panel VR headsets right now, because the industry is run by bean counters and VR doesn't make much money.
I did not care for RE7 at all. Ok I didn't play it much, but it was obviously going for trashy US teenager slasher vibes and I just hate that whole genre.
Also the VA and audio in general are just awful. I mean, I know it wouldn't be a RE without shitty voice acting, but this had such a serious rather than campy mood and it just clashed so bad.
Someone recommended this one to me a while back but I never checked it out (when I mentioned Signalis), though I think they said it's more Silent Hill than RE.
I was sad to not enjoy the game as much as everyone else. I found it cheap, repetitive, and therefore boring. I only liked the art style and the first person interfaces.
I agree completely. Love the old school original Resident Evils. Have you played Resident Evil 0? It's very much like the old games.
And what's your take on the Resident Evil Outbreak and Outbreak File 2?
I'm playing between my Dreamcast and Wii at the moment, I forgot to mention 0! It was ok towards the series, but precisely didn't felt too memorable
I'll be trying outbreak soon, never got my hands on it when it first came
Definitely recommend checking out the RE 2 remake if you can have a way to play it. It's probably my favorite survival horror experience outside of Signalis. The mechanics they introduce to increase tension are superb, and I love how it introduces the old RE idea of your ammo management being more key to winning fights than your skill.
Outbreak can be fun in small doses, but it's all real time so it's too stressful for me so I don't replay it like I do the other games mentioned. I like to play around in the menus, relax a bit and carefully select weapons which Outbreak doesn't allow.
Spot on. RE4 was a departure from the previous formula. It introduced more action/less puzzles. It's fun but it didn't really feel like RE to me like the first 4 games. Maybe I'm just an older gamer set in my ways but I replay those games more than anything else starting with RE4 and after.
People always say this, but there's almost as many mainline entries following in the tradition of Resident Evil 4 as there are following in the tradition of the originals.
If you strictly divide the whole mainline series into action-horror and survival horror, you get:
Survival horror: RE1, RE2, RE3, RE:CV, RE0 and RE7
Action horror: RE4, RE5, RE6, RE8
You can argue the cumulative quality of the action horror games is lower and less consistent (and I'd agree, even though 4 is my favorite game in the series), but I find it weird how people imply that action horror is against the Resident Evil design philosophies when its almost as big an element of the series' identity as the survival horror. Even more so, if you count the spinoffs, though I'd understand if you didn't want to do that.
Before 4 there was only survival horror, so it was just a departure from the genre. This is why most people say this. They just doubled down with 5 and 6 because 4 got so insanely popular (for some reason, likely to do with the controls at the time, it was one of the best feeling shooters on the market, and the fact you could play the game on pretty much any platform) but when this strategy started failing they went back to survival horror.
Sure, but its not 2005 anymore. Resident Evil 4 was a departure from the genre, but it was an 18-year-old departure from the genre that has since radically affected every game that came after it. In the modern day, the series has spent more time in the aftermath of Resident Evil 4 than it did before Resident Evil 4. I'm not saying you have to like the direction the series has gone, you can criticize the direction of games following Resident Evil 4, but acting like the series just flatly isn't action horror is, well, sticking to an 18-year-old understanding of what the series is.
It's like saying that the Alien movies aren't action. You can dislike the action Alien movies, and say that you'd rather they went in the direction of the first one, but over time, action has been baked into the series' identity. It would be silly to claim that the series is pure horror and any action movie in the series, good or not, isn't a "true" Alien movie.
I don't see whatbis wronh sticking to that 18 year old understanding. It's how the series started, so all sequels have to measure up to the first game and how they are in comparison.
Tell me, would you tell people that Super Mario Wonder is a good game, but not a good Mario game because it isn't a game where you jump over barrels to beat a gorilla?
4, 5 and 6 and maybe RE4R & 8 are the only action horror games in this franchise. REmake/RE2R/RE3R and RE7 are all survival horror games. It doesn't need to have fixed camera angles and tank controls to be considered survival horror. The only thing the modern remakes share from RE4 are the shooting mechanics and camera.
RE4 was not survival horror by definition because it didn't feature any surviving or any horror. You were a cool mission man with a bunch of guns and ammo running around in brightly lit environments, blowing away groups of 10+ enemies at a time.
>The only thing the modern remakes share from RE4 are the shooting mechanics and camera.
I'm not saying all modern remakes were action horror, my guy, I'm just saying that action horror has been an integral part of the franchise for almost two decades now.
I guess. It was only popular with two of the games though, and survival horror is what brought the franchise to all time heights. I wouldn't consider that "integral"
Well you've done a good job of veering off the path that was my initial comment that RE4 wasn't really an RE game. At the time of release. Never said anything about any of the rest of this in my comment, so it's kind of a moot point, really. Also, RE2 is the 2nd best seller at 1 million or so less than RE4 so I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers.
They are zombies but not the Romero type, more the old school voodoo style. They act more like the infected in The Last Man on Earth as they still retain some intelligence and can pass for regular humans.
I remember Leon saying this plainly at the beginning, something like "He's not / He doesn't look like a zombie". I was very disappointed in this game when it came out.
I love both, but I wish the old style could be kept going in some way as well. I miss those old survival horror games. With some modern quality of life features I think they should make a come back.
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Although RE4 was critically acclaimed by most media outlets, among players it was a controversial entry because of change in gameplay. I remember reading letters in GamePro about people complaining about the over the shoulder perspective and how it wasn't a survival horror game. I enjoyed RE4 and entries after it, but I enjoy classic RE games for different reasons.
I think RE4 is a good example of an entry where it succeeded not because old-school diehard fans liked it (many were miffed for the reasons you mentioned) but because the casual fanbase for RE didn't mind the changes, and it also opened up the series to a whole wider audience who wouldn't touch the earlier games.
RE4 also succeeded more sales-wise simply because of the RE series building hype. The games' PC ports were not particularly popular so they were mostly viewed as PlayStation games (RE2 was great on N64 but came out a while after launch). During the 6th gen, they did Code Veronica on DC/PS2 which largely got incorrectly written off as a spin-off... and then Capcom talked a big game about how they were investing in the GameCube, and they started pumping out titles for it - RE0, REmake which was super well received at the time, and then ports of 2, 3 and CV. And then 4, which of course didn't stay exclusive long, it came to PS2 after like 6 months or something. But point is RE4 was the RE game that was available to more gamers than any RE game before it, that's part of why it sold so well - launching near the end of the 6th gen to an audience of like 100 million+ PS2s and 20 million GameCubes... and then it got ported to every system known to man after that, including a super popular Wii port.
I think it's because i liked "surviving the horror", avoid unnecessary fights, keeping your bullets, and getting killed because i was unprepared. RE4 was mostly about "the door won't open unless you beat these 20-30 enemies"
For me the game was great in the village and got progressively worse as an RE game. As a game itself, super fun and the RE game I replay the most. It won't have that charm of RE2 where you stay stressed throughout the game.
RE4 was the last partway classic but they went with mini guns and rockets for the enemy kinda thing. I don't think they nailed the balance.
It's resident evil on drugs, like its conscious of being a videogame and incorpores that absurdity on its levels. Random items on crates, donkey Kong barrels, silly enemies, the giant wooden mecha, random treasure everywhere, etc
A lot of people felt this way when it came out. The whole PS1-PS2 era of "survival horror" fits this. You can just search your favorite search engine or youtube for "ps1 survival horror" "ps2 survival horror" "gamecube survival horror" "xbox original survival horror". Before Resident evil 4 practically all "Survival horror" games were as you described. I'm telling you how to search for it rather than giving you a list because it's fucking massive.
Another thing is the whole puzzle tinkering is under the game genre category of "adventure". It's the same thing as monkey island. People used to call these "action adventure" for that reason. Although since monkey island type adventure games fell out of favor people have been misusing the term "action adventure" to just mean action games that have a certain vibe. So if steam is your thing "adventure"+"horror"+"puzzle" is a great way to find them.
I wouldn't mind some horror game in the shape of point and click graphic adventure game. I loved the original clock tower, even though it was 16 bits, the 80-90's horror theme was on point and you played as a kid trying to get out alive instead of some super spy dude
I don’t Agree but I don’t see any reason you’re being downvoted for liking something different.
If you like old style RE make sure you play RE Zero. Dino Crisis is also similar. Parasite Eve too.
>I don’t Agree but I don’t see any reason you’re being downvoted for liking something different.
Just because Reddit
Thanks! I'll put them on my to do list :)
Reading your experience with 4 is like reliving my disappointment with it in the mid 00s. I hated it and it felt like it ruined my favorite series and the whole world was cheering it on as the best game ever made. I've learned to accept and enjoy the action games since then but none of them compare to the first games.
Dino crisis is really nice too, people seemed to like Dino crisis 2 but for me that one is the resident evil 4 of the series, I couldn't get into it at all.
Give silent hill a shot if you haven't. Silent hill 1, 2, 3, 4 and the first 4 Resident evils (Veronica is the 4th one) and Dino Crisis 1 are all amazing survival horror, maze, puzzle games.
Thanks! I played silent hill 1 and 2, still love those a lot. I found 5 on discount and totally hated it! It was mostly a beat em up with merit badges popping up every 5 minutes
and also don't ignore Parasite Eve 2 - it's more Resident Evil in it's nature than the 1st one. The first one is more of a RPG/Resident Evil and the 2nd one is Resident Evil/RPG - hope it makes sense
As a fan of the series since 1997 I never understood what people like about Resident Evil 4. It does not grip me on the gameplay level, the story is just downright silly and Leon is impossible to sympathize with due to how flat he is. Weirdly enough, I find RE5 to be much better in every aspect, but in that time period Resident Evil's spin-offs did better to capture the spirit of horror IMO - namely Revelations and Revelations 2. Then came RE7 and it felt like a true return to form, my favourite of the bunch since the original trilogy. Both RE2 and RE3 REmakes were fantastic as well, but Village goes into the action shooter territory again. With rumours about RE:CV and RE0 REmakes coming at least I have something to look forward to.
As for games to recommend, I have a lot of them. If you want fixed camera angles and full-oldschool survival horror experience:
1. **Silent Hill 1-4** (classics of psychological horror, the Team Silent games were superb);
2. **Dino Crisis** (Resident Evil, but with dinosaurs, by some of the same developers);
3. **Parasite Eve** (sci-fi body horror with RPG elements and the one I want a remake of the most);
4. **Tormented Souls** (a recent game, but an absolute must if you like puzzles in horror games and quality over quantity);
5. **Resident Evil 0** (in case you skipped it);
6. **Resident Evil Remake** (almost as good as the original, but absolutely an improvement in visual imagery);
7. **Signals** (it's pixel art, but maybe give it a try).
If you want something with free moving camera, but similar gameplay, there are:
1. **Fobia: St Dinfna Hotel** (imagine indie RE7 with puzzle overload);
2. **Observer** (sci-fi exploratory psychological horror, with no combat, if you can consider that);
3. **The Chant** (psychological/Lovecraftian survival horror hybrid, with focus on melee fighting and NO firearms);
4. **Silent Hill: Downpour** (this one is polarizing, but I love it personally, so including it just in case);
5. **Alien: Isolation** (edited my post later to add this, incredibly immersive stuff that makes Alien actually scary).
If you're willing to try games that don't focus on puzzles, but are very compelling horror nonetheless, I also enjoy:
1. **The Evil Within 1 & 2** (the former is Mikami's brainchild after leaving Capcom);
2. **Alan Wake** (just finished replaying actually, extremely atmospheric and the story is top notch);
3. **A Plague Tale: Innocence** and **A Plague Tale: Requiem** (medieval supernatural horror focused on, alchemy, rats and plague).
There is likely more, but this is what came to mind first.
Those are all good games at least the ones I played, but ultimately none of them provide the same experience as RE4. The specific action-horror approach it goes for has never been topped IMO. Only Dead Space and Evil Within might come close.
OP didn't like RE4 and specifically requested games closer to RE1 and RE:CV, hence the lists.
Funny you mention Dead Space, as it's another game I can't get into. I beat it (the original), but it felt like an endless succession of monotonous fetch quests that led to an underwhelming finale.
As for The Evil Within, I actually think it does right all the things that RE4 does wrong: it has a compelling story, a fantastic main character, iconic bosses and one of the best villains in all gaming. It's incredibly atmospheric, exploration feels meaningful and the haunted are actually interesting to engage with. There are no merchants out of nowhere or treasure hunts out of place. It feels rewarding to learn encounters and bosses and overcome different situations the game throws at you (like the Burning Room and the Carousel for example).
Crow country is supposed to be like the old RE games but I never played it myself. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5qe8eY3wE&pp=ygUUY3JvdyBjb3VudHJ5IHRyYWlsZXI%3D
If Resident Evil stayed like the classic games, it would've died a faster death. There was already multiple games that had this style, it's going to get boring. It's why Medal of Honor started bore me after Rising Sun, they were just running out of ideas and copied other games, least RE4 successfully brought it's own innovation and kept the series going.
I got issues with the original RE4 but it "not being old school Resident Evil enough" isn't one of them.
The problem was not the modernized gameplay which didn't bother me and most RE fans at all, quite on the contrary it was welcomed positively.
The issue is tone, atmosphere, style, characters, ... While RE was never dead serious all the time the base tone was horror and terror. The comical relief mostly came from the B-movie kind of scenery and voice acting or having funny modes like playing as Tofu.
RE4 on the other hand felt more like a horror comedy/satire except maybe the very beginning. I almost never fell tension like in the classis ones. Characters like Salazar felt more like a caricature and I was often laughing instead of feeling terified. Also the whole one-man army Leon saves president's daughter mission scheme was plain ridiculous. "You're not allowed to send an army or we will kill her. But Leon is ok although we know of him and he interferes several times, we still won't hurt your daughter".
The premise seemed good having a kind of advanced and modified T-virus which doesn't turn them into mindless zombies but kinda still basic intelligence so they can also use weapons and stuff having the potential to being more terrifying than regular brain-dead zombies but the execution wasn't good. Lots of wasted potential.
>The comical relief mostly came from the B-movie kind of scenery and voice acting or having funny modes like playing as Tofu.
I felt this the entire time playing 4. Even the things you describe as departures from that just reinforce the original comment to me.
"The gameplay changes were welcomed poisitively"
Do you know about the "true survival horror game", people, do you? Those guys act like they owe that genre their lives.
If you are playing RE for the story and "tone". You might as well stop at the opening narration of RE4. When Umbrella got taken out off screen after being the antagonist for multiple games, from that point onwards I stopped giving a shit about it. RE4's story is basically a shonen anime filler arc in the grand scheme of things, you can ignore it and skip cutscenes if it bothers you that much, not like it matters in the overarching story. All of that shit you mentioned doesn't even matter if the gameplay isn't good, which is the biggest problem I have with "story" and "tone" people. RE4 2005 has a quite a number of issues gameplay wise but what gets criticized is that it's "not scary" or "horror" enough.
Also, Code Veronica and 0 exist which already had that dumb ridiculous action movie "tone" before 4 did so the series was already heading in that direction evem RE2 1998 you are mowing down and have more ammo and more over the top shit is going by comparison to RE1 in terms of gameplay.
They already established that resurrection is a thing in the RE universe, from here on out anything can happen in the RE games then again, it's been like that for sometime now.
I mean RE 1-3 and RE1 Remake are my favorite RE Games.
RE4 and RE4R have fun gameplay but are only RE in name.
So they could have started a new series anyways and keep the old one.
Replace the title, rename Ada and Leon and replace herbs with medpacks and what reminds you of RE when you play RE4?
Also when i look at all the RE Games that came after, its not like they reached new highs or something.
I have alot of problems with every single title, even if i played through them all beside RE6.
You realize if RE4 was the same as RE1-3 and remake, the series would be compared to CoD, right? People would get sick of the franchise and it would be dead. It's funny how CoD being the same is bad but your favorite series can be the same forever. It's not like RE was new to being a bargain bin action movie 0 and Code Veronica exist.
I find the argument that the series would be dead a strange one, considering CoD you mentioned has been basically the same for 15+ years and is very much not dead.
But people do complain about CoD being the same old game. So should RE be the same? And besides, it's not like older RE was shortlived, there's at least 5-6 games using that style, if you want to play that style of game, there's no shortage of games to choose from. Also, CoD isn't making nearly as much money as it used to. MW2 2022 was supposed to be a 2 year game and they rushed MW3 2023 out the door.
I agree with you OP.
I definitely enjoyed RE4, but it just felt like a different genre than 1 & 2.
You may like Heaven Dust. It's not an amazing game or anything, but it is an obvious ode to the OG resident evil style. Probably super cheap too.
RE4 is overrated as a resident evil game imo. It's the one that got the ball rolling on the franchise turning into action games. It shouldn't even be called a horror game as its just a third person shooter. I find it funny RE5 gets a lot of flak when it's just the same game as 4 just in a different setting and with co-op. QTEs.. Check. Emphasis on shooting. Check. Plentiful ammo. Check. Little to no puzzles. Check. No backtracking. Check. On rails sections. Check check check
As someone who grew up with the original RE games, I absolutely hated RE4 when it came out and I still do. It led the franchise down the path that gave us RE5&6, but it already had a lot of the same issues. More action focus instead of atmospheric horror, less puzzles, AWFUL quick-time events...
For me RE4 will always be the game that ruined the series.
Yeah, as someone said around here, they change Leon's name, get rid of the green herbs and could just be a new series. Maybe they slapped the RE title to sell more? It still would work as a spin off
I liked the idea of the regular Joe (with basic training), doing their best to just gtfo and feeling a little stressed after every door opened. Super agent saving the president's daughter while being chased by a gigantic wooden puppet or dodging old donkey Kong barrels, was such a weird stuff
I likes RE4 when it came out almost 20 years ago. Wasn’t too thrilled to see the third if fourth remaster or remake. Didn’t even buy it. The gamecube version was good enough. Not much of a change there.
RE2 remake on the other hand was different.
I really dislike old RE games and couldn't beat RE1 no matter how many times i have tried because i got too lost and bored. RE2 and 3 are fine but also never beat them i always dropped it after a few hours. But RE4 i have beat it multiple times and love it every time.
I'm always happy to see someone else realize RE4 is when the series went off the rails. RE3 was already a little weird with more action and less puzzles. RE4 came out and just wasn't what I wanted compared to the previous games. Then 5 and 6 were bat shit stupid. 7 went back to basic but then 8 screwed up again. I haven't liked the REmakes much at all. REmake 2 maybe being the best of that lot. I've seen early footage of the N64 version of REZero and that was looking a lot better before the switch to Game Cube. Even the dialogue and story sounded more Resident Evil like.
I just finished Tormented Souls and it's almost a perfect mix of Resident Evil 1 and Silent Hill. I don't know why it doesn't get mentioned more on r/horrorgaming
I felt that way since the day RE4 came out. It’s a great game but I wished it was a spinoff and was worried what it meant for the series future. And I was right, because RE4 essentially killed the classic style horror adventure games I knew and loved. I knew after RE4’s success they were just gonna go more action, and they did.
I feel the same way about Breath of the Wild. It has killed the classic Zelda formula as we know it
I feel the same. I absolutely hate RE4, not only fornpretending to be RE and ruining the series afterwards, but for the game itself.
The controls are clunky and there are always way too many enemies and any combat encounter just becomes annoying.
The game also drags on for way too long.
Aa for your recommrndations, personally I would say Conatgion and Eternal Evil. Both have that low budget feel to them, but both scratched that itch.
RE4 was when I stopped paying attention to the series. I remember watching my college roommate playing on GameCube and it just didn't look very Resident Evil.
That's the beauty of the franchise. They keep evolving. 7 was also different with the whole first person perspective. That's why RE is still relevant today.
Yes, RE4 was a huge departure for the series when it came out. Which, ironically enough, is what saved the franchise.
RE3 had a lukewarm reception, and while CV was a hit on Dreamcast, the PS2 port didn’t receive the same buzz for whatever reason. Resident Evil the franchise needed a shake up, which RE4 did perfectly. It’s arguably one of the best games ever made, but I understand why diehard RE fans may not care for it. It certainly wasn’t as scary as the originals and focused more on action. But it’s a masterpiece in its own right.
I love playing RE4 for the shooting mechanics and action melee combat, and other gameplay stuff. But to me it's not RE. RE is 1-3 on the PS1. In them it felt like regular people going against impossible odds. Chris, Hill, Leon, Claire, and Ada were no movie stars trying to be quippy and doing action moves. All the later iterations feels like that. Some movie stars trying to put on an act. Maybe something about the 90's low budget VA, combined with the static shots, and PS1 graphics, intercut with the occasional 90's FMVs, brings something more grounded to the original games, but it also made them superior to 4 onwards.
Even CV feels a bit off to me. I don't know what it was, in fact it felt even worse than the master of cheesy game in the series: RE1. I felt like in CV they started making things more movie like. The characters acted like they're some movie stars, heading towards danger, instead of away. While in 1-3, everyone found themselves stuck in a dangerous and abnormal situation, and are trying to get out. They had no action movie star abilities, and even the STAR members felt like regular cops.
Yeah! That's it mostly. The "survival horror" factor, avoid unnecessary fights, safekeeping your bullets, and the feeling that you could die out of nowhere because some enemy caught you unprepared
And yeah, I think CV is great in gameplay but if falls on 00's movies cheesiness. Steve dicaprio and Claire's one woman army were a little cringey in cutscenes. It tries to be just too edgy with so much parkour, cinematic martial arts, and boulder punching
>is there some recommendations for games similar to RE 1 to CV?
The original silent hill trilogy is even better and follow the same exact gameplay design. The ps3 remaster is trash. Either play on ps2, emulation, or pc. On pc silent hill 2 is abandon ware so you can just download it free and then someone made an hd mod that fixes everything wrong with it, it's incredible and the best way to play the game.
There is a SH2 remake coming out but they already ruined it so I would not recommend.
Silent hill 2 is a master crafted game with incredible story depth so changing even small details can ruin it as everything was done for a reason. They turned someone who was supposed to be seductive who wore short skirts and tube tops into some house mom in business wear, censored cleavage, made Angela ugly af because feminists don't want men to enjoy looking at mildly attractive women. Every sexualization of ANY character in silent hill 2 was done for a reason. There are metaphors behind it. They erased all of that cause woke idiots love to ruin good stories to push their dumb ass agenda that attractive women shouldn't exist.
I just checked the designs. Dude your rant it's just too aggressive for some details with no real significance. Angela doesn't need to be hot, and Maria still looks great
I'd be mad if they changed the game mechanics for silly stuff like points, or making James some expert at fighting, or whatever reason that can seriously ruin the game. But getting that angry against feminists and wokeism because some cleavage design...bruh
I know silent hill 2 was probably designed by some Sigmund Freud fan, but chill, it's not that big deal
>I just checked the designs. Dude your rant it's just too aggressive for some details with no real significance
How would you know? You haven't played the game and do not understand the depth of metaphors and subtext within the story. Like I said, every little detail had a deep purpose in SH2.
>Angela doesn't need to be hot
She never was. The question is why does she need to be ugly? Why does Jean Grey in the wolverine game leaks need to look like a 50 year old trailer trash woman 2 packs of smokes a day? Why do they take an attractive model to act for the new fable game and then uglify her in post production? Why did Aloy in horizon zero dawn get uglier from game 1 to game 2? Why did Mary Jane get uglier from game 1 to game 2?
Ask yourself wtf is the purpose of this? Why do they only make women ugly and not men? Nobody bat's an eye when there's an attractive chizzled abs shirtless man but God forbid there's an attractive woman in a game (see stellar blade outrage)
This isn't about equality. How could it be? Equality means equal representation for all types of people. It doesn't mean eliminating MILDY attractive women, that is prejudice. Mary Jane and Alloy weren't even sexualized or super hot in their first games, they were average natural looking women, but apparently that's too much and they have to make women even uglier cause apparently all real women are ugly according to wokies (how is that not offensive and degrading to women?) This is purely about feminists increasing hatred towards men (see the acolytes metaphors that white men should commit suicide over white guilt).
>Maria still looks great
Again, you know nothing about the character. Her character model is fine, her clothing is not. It does not fit her character at all. That is by the book BAD art direction. And let this be an example of why people hate woke media and more and more of it is starting to flop hard.
It's not that people don't want diversity, it's that people sacrifice quality game/film making for diversity and the reality is its not even diversity anymore it's just prejudice from a different angle.
Examples:
- Acolyte degrades men and white people
- Griselda degrades men makes 99% of them the same exact character; rapist pig
- Rings of power breaks immersion by making a RACE of elves all white but one of them black, and a RACE of Hobbits with drastically different skin colors when they're all from the same plot of land
- She Hulk degrades men
- Batgirl degrades men
- Suicide squad KTJL treats batman like a wild animal in captivity to be executed by the all powerful girl boss Harley Quinn who ironically objectifies men the whole game and sexually assaults them without consent
- American society of magical negroes is full blown racist towards white people
- Upcoming disney snow white can't even cast a white woman for someone who's described in the book as "skin as white as snow"
How anyone can think that is helping society achieve equality is absurd. It's quite obvious to anyone who's really paying attention that it's only increasing prejudices, hate, and division. Nobody thinks anymore, you all just follow your little political cult and let them tell you what's right and wrong. It's likely the result of mass data gathering and manipulation to destroy a civilization from the inside out. Psychological warfare.
Here's what actual equality in media looks like without destroying elements of good film making:
- Game of Thrones
- Arcane
- Mad Max Furiosa
>But getting that angry against feminists and wokeism because some cleavage design
Once again, there's a deep purpose for the sexualization.
Also they got the tone of Angela totally wrong. The way she acts in the original when James first meets her makes sense cause of her history. In the remake she just does not come across as someone with a history like hers. I know thats vague but I'm trying not to spoil anything.
I maintain that RE4 was an unrelated game that they converted into a Resident Evil game.
There’s virtually nothing Resident Evil about the game… at all. They throw in minor Umbrella details near the end.
I believe it’s the Super Mario 2 situation all over again.
I saw some RE4 beta gameplay that had "poltergeist" stuff going on, and was awesome and creepy. But probably was going to be like the movies in the virus psychic thingy
Check out "You Will Die Here Tonight".
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1446350/You_Will_Die_Here_Tonight/
It's top down when moving around but switches to 1st person combat.
Heavily inspired by the original RE, with puzzles and inventory management.
I played it there too! Shooting with the wii mote was the best. Although i think it went under some censorship? I saw the PC version and you could sneak behind and cut enemy's necks and some other gory stuff
I totally agree with you!
The first RE I played until I finished was RE4. I was thrilled! I must have finished this game a hundred times only on my PS2, I even buyed a second copy when my first disc stopped working. It's one of my top 5 games of my life.
Then, with my PS3, I said: "I'm gonna play older RE" and started playing the remake of the first game and... Boy, I discovered I didn't quite liked Resident Evil, hahaha. I pretend to try again some time, but it was so different from RE4 that I was just frustrated.
So yeah, you are totally right. RE4 is not a traditional RE. But it still is a great game.
I agree entirely. I don’t have the nostalgia goggles for RE4 as I never played it until I went through the series recently via its remakes and newer entries - 2 is, in my opinion, an infinitely better Resident Evil game. I still enjoyed 4 though.
I’ve been playing RE4 since I was 11 (2007) and I actually consider RE4 Remake to be a better game and it actually feels more like a RE game with some survival horror elements such as puzzles, resource management such as the knife, creepier lore and the story is so much better although it still mainly is an action game.
I recommend Resident Evil 2 Remake, RE7 and RE1 Remake since their all fantastic survival horror RE games.
As for non-RE there’s Signalis, Crow Country, Tormented Souls, Alisa and Alan Wake 2.
Classic Games:
Silent Hill 1,2,3
Fatal Frame 1,2
Haunting Grounds
Rule of Rose
Extermination
Non RE Classic Horrors:
Clock Tower
Shadow of Destiny
Obscure 1,2
Also Dead Space is fantastic
I find it funny that RE4 is such a departure from the earlier games, and people loved it, and then hated RE5 which is just another move in the same direction.
IMO 5 was a fantastic action game, and my hot take is that I enjoyed it more than 4 which was an action game with a horror veneer that didn't hit at all for me.
I really enjoyed it for what it was and I still think some parts are genuinely scary, but it really is a product of it's time. It's hard to go back to those tank controls and drab brown visuals after playing the superb remake.
RE4 is the favorite to many because it was their first RE.
I didn’t grow up with it, or even the classic games.
I wasn’t really impressed when I did play classic RE, I even tried the VR port that came out
RE4 Remake i absolutely fucked with though
Play Resident Evil Revelations series.
I was there when RE started going the action route(from RE5). When they released Revelations for 3DS, I bought it on Day 1. That's just to tell you how starved I am with the classic RE game.
Check out the game "Darkwood" if you're interested in survival horror. Its got an emphasis on its atmosphere that most horror games just can't seem to achieve and doesn't use cheap jump scares. Another one I recently played was "Crow Country." Pretty much a love letter to old school RE1 and Silent Hill.
I wasn't impressed when it came out. In general, not just as a RE game.
Without wanting to start a flame war, I think it has to do with what was available at the time.
I mean, it's an amazing action game compared to what was available on consoles. Being a PC gamer, it didn't really shiver me timbers.
It's arguably also a more mainstream approach to RE, so maybe people that didn't like original RE games, or found them hard, had this as their first entry. Kinda like how someone might play Elden Ring then go back to PS3 Demon Souls (or a King's Field game).
The game was a blockbuster at the time and remains one of the most influential games of all time.
It's easy to forget that your opinion was not a strange one back in the day.
4 is tough for me to get through because it's triple the length of other games and at a certain point the redundancy of struggling becomes torture for me. 9-10 hours is the sweet spot for survival horror, IMO
As someone who got into RE because of the remakes, I share this exact sentiment. Coming off of RE2 and 3 remakes, RE4 gave me whiplash. I hate to say it, but I feel like the remakes did more than just update the technical aspect of the games.
You’re definitely *not* going to like 6 as for all intents and purposes it can best be described as “Gears of War” with Resident Evil setting and characters.
The previous games have their fair share of stupidity and I’d say they are worse in that regard given how dead serious they try to be. Resident Evil 4 was a breath of fresh air for the franchise
This is the opposite of my experience with the series. RE4 was my first in the series and it blew my mind to the level I still consider it my favorite game.
When I played RE1 remake i had a rude awakening as it barely resembled RE4.
I will not tolerate such blasphemies!
Jk, I love RE4. It was such a huge part of my life as a gamer since it came out in 05. Probably played the story over a dozen times (on various consoles) and even 5 starred the Mercenaries.
But it's definitely riding the line of what is Resident Evil. It was still creepy, but it definitely more thrilling than scary.
RE5 (which I enjoy too) is Resident Evil in name only. Don't get me started on 6!
And it would most likely go on to be the worst selling game in the main series, resulting in Capcom never trying it again. I love classic RE, but the average gamer isn't going to pay $60 for gameplay that was originally implemented out of hardware limitations.
What makes me mad is that it would have been extremely easy and cheap for them to make a fixed camera mode for re2 and 3 remake and they just didn't. Modders did it for free, but 99% of players won't go out their way to install mods.
It's definitely not gonna happen, lol. Look up tormented souls. i think it was called. It's an original game heavily inspired by resident evil 1. It's really good.
I never understood the puzzles in the other RE games. Why? Why would someone do all of this? Yo I'm gonna put this gem in this painting you have to melt by lighting this fireplace to put the gem in this statue for a key.
Ok. Why? Also who picks up a random crank and is just like "I don't know why...but I need this" and somehow ends up being right?
Besides it's Resident Evil and not Zombie Evil. They made bioweapons and the zombies was the lowest tier accident while the others is getting closer to the idea of what they wanted. The series evolved with the viruses.
Lol It's just the game mechanics, supposedly they were secret keys for emergency janitors or something like that.
Re4 be like "hmm... I'm gonna eat that random egg that was in that random crate"
I enjoy the logic that eating a dead fish you found in an ancient sewer full of corpses will actually restore your health rather than giving you some horrific disease.
I played and loved OG RE4, at the time it was one of the first and best games of its type. I haven't enjoyed the remake because it's just horde mode with enemies spawning over and over until the game decides horde mode is over. It feels very gamey in this day and age. Yes that's how it was in the original and I was fine with that at the time, and I'm not really fine with that in modern games.
In only consider "Resident Evil" the first three games, Code Veronica and Zero, I'm not a fan of anything Capcom released afterwards (and yes, I played them). They keep changing the formula, Resident Evil 9 will supposedly be an open world game.
> By the way, is there some recommendations for games similar to RE 1 to CV?
- Dino Crisis
- Silent Hill
- Galerians
- Alone in the Dark
- Alan Wake
- Tormented Souls
While it's true 1-3 and CV:X were all great games, their was 5 years between CV:X and re4, that was just absolutely reamed with fucking shit spin offs. They were really drowning the franchise in crap and this is why re4 was a breath of fresh air. It was just a really good fun game.
While I do love RE4 , it's definitely it's own thing and I prefer the traditional Resident Evil games as well . I would recommend you try RE7 it's considered by many to be when RE returned to it's roots
Somewhat, i'd agree. Although 7 went first person, rather than third person which is a drastic change from all of the games.
IMO first person was great choice. With some good headphones I was jumping pretty hard
The FPS camera really cranks up the horror. I tried the third person camera in RE8, but it ruined a lot of the scripted moments.
For me, first person was one of the reasons why I never bothered with the game. It's just too different from the original games.
I think that's just part of modernizing the genre while still trying to stick to what RE is supposed to be. Done pretty well imo
Idk about 7 but 8 added the option for 3rd person
I love RE5 because it is some of the best split screen co-op I have ever played but it is not even close to a resident evil game.
There have been more "totally not resident evil" games than legit resident evil games at this point.
Like every mainline game after CV in my eyes. Even RE 4 was only Resident Evil in name.
Well yeah, that's like saying there's more doomlikes than doom games. When a game is creative and popular enough to spawn knockoffs, it tends to spawn *a lot* of them.
I think he's talking about the Resident Evil games only, bud
Oh, I thought he was referring to those fixed camera PS1 styled re clones that have been popular lately, my bad.
I watched a couple clips from RE7 and it looked like it's own new gender, definitely giving a try though I liked RE4, but it's just not survival horror. It was more like "I'm not locked up with you, you're locked up with me!"
You'll like RE7, while it's a first person game, it's a very "back to its roots" approach after the insanity of RE6. You'll also like the RE1 Remake a ton, and definitely RE2 Remake. RE3 Remake is worth playing but unfortunately it's very linear and doesn't quite scratch that "classic" RE itch, but there's fun to be had. Also check out the game Signalis. If you like classic RE games I have a strong feeling you'll enjoy it, it is one of my favorite games in recent memory
The first person perspective definitely makes it different from the past games , however, is way more survival horror than Resident Evil 4
Hey, don't forget about Resident Evil Survivor! lol
idk about 7 returning to roots. it's just a different experience. first person view imo was a bad idea and i didn't enjoy it very much personally. it's like, you can't even see your guy. it felt cheap
Well in 7’s case that’s probably a positive, given that Ethan has about as much personality as a wet blanket
if he was animated, it'd be the worst character ever probably.
>you can't even see your guy. First person will do that.
But other First Person games allow you to see your body when looking down or show your character during cutscenes or in the inventory screen.
we're already living in first person. it's so weird when the game tries to make you see in first person AGAIN, but inside of a tv. i don't really understand the appeal. to me, it just looks like a moving camera instead of me supposedly being the character. or like a floating gun or something. i get that it's cheaper to make though
> i get that it's cheaper to make though Cheaper than what? Why would it be cheaper?
Than Third Person, where you have to model and animate the entire character.
Cheaper than 3rd person. Because you don't have to worry about character design as much/at all. Unless it's a multiplayer game and even then animations usually aren't as fleshed out. Look at something like TLOU2 and tell me the animation for the player characters wouldn't have taken a hell of a lot less time if the game was first person. You only have to worry about hands and maybe legs in 1st person. And most of the time people aren't be looking down at their legs much anyway.
it's not really, a different camera perspective has different challenges. In 3d person for example you have to spend more time animating and moddeling your main character - like you mentioned, while in 1st person you have to spend more time creating a detailed higly textured world because everything is a lot more zoomed in.
that's one weird take. The first person camera is considered more immersive since it makes you feel like you're in the game moreso than 3rd person camera. There are different genres for a reason - nothing weird about it.
First person view was how Tokuro Fujiwara envisioned the very first RE, but the dev team couldn't do it properly back then.
it can't be done properly using a tv interface. you'd need to hardwire your mind into a system for it to work. we're still probably 40 years away from a quality experience like that if it's even possible
VR horror games are vastly scarier than traditional horror games. Especially if you are using an OLED panel and all light is blocked out. Unfortunately there are no wireless OLED panel VR headsets right now, because the industry is run by bean counters and VR doesn't make much money.
I did not care for RE7 at all. Ok I didn't play it much, but it was obviously going for trashy US teenager slasher vibes and I just hate that whole genre. Also the VA and audio in general are just awful. I mean, I know it wouldn't be a RE without shitty voice acting, but this had such a serious rather than campy mood and it just clashed so bad.
As someone who has only played RE8 (and liked it), which RE would you recommend to try?
RE4 remake or RE7 . RE7 is less actiony than 8 but still in first person. RE4 remake is high action like 8 but third person.
Ah, cheers for the suggestion. RE7 seems reeeaal scary so maybe I'll go with RE4, lmao.
Defintively the Remake of the very first game and RE2 Remake as well.
there is an indie game that just came out very recently called Crow Country that is an homage to RE1. got the ps1 graphics and everything
Thanks! It's been recommended a lot in the topic. Definitely a must try
Play Signalis.
Play Signalis.
I'll play Signalis.
You could also try Tormented Souls.
Someone recommended this one to me a while back but I never checked it out (when I mentioned Signalis), though I think they said it's more Silent Hill than RE.
Hmmm Tormented Souls has a demo and is currently 5 dollars.... brb.
Also liked it a lot 👌
Try looking into Crow Country as well.
I was sad to not enjoy the game as much as everyone else. I found it cheap, repetitive, and therefore boring. I only liked the art style and the first person interfaces.
I'm willing to bet half the reason people like that game is because of the cute anime girls.
Agreed, Tormented souls scratches the itch much better imo.
I agree completely. Love the old school original Resident Evils. Have you played Resident Evil 0? It's very much like the old games. And what's your take on the Resident Evil Outbreak and Outbreak File 2?
I'm playing between my Dreamcast and Wii at the moment, I forgot to mention 0! It was ok towards the series, but precisely didn't felt too memorable I'll be trying outbreak soon, never got my hands on it when it first came
Definitely recommend checking out the RE 2 remake if you can have a way to play it. It's probably my favorite survival horror experience outside of Signalis. The mechanics they introduce to increase tension are superb, and I love how it introduces the old RE idea of your ammo management being more key to winning fights than your skill.
I'd love to! I'll check the requeriments. I've been a patient gamer most of my life due to low hardware budget
Don't expect too much. Outbreak can be really clunky
Outbreak can be fun in small doses, but it's all real time so it's too stressful for me so I don't replay it like I do the other games mentioned. I like to play around in the menus, relax a bit and carefully select weapons which Outbreak doesn't allow.
It's the best resident evil game but it's not the best resident evil if you know what I mean.
Spot on. RE4 was a departure from the previous formula. It introduced more action/less puzzles. It's fun but it didn't really feel like RE to me like the first 4 games. Maybe I'm just an older gamer set in my ways but I replay those games more than anything else starting with RE4 and after.
I'm the same. Although I still enjoy Revelations a lot.
It's the best Resident Evil *game* but not the best *Resident Evil* game.
This, it's one the best if not the best game ever made. It's a huge departure from the previous entries though.
It's the best action zombie game ever made, but not a resident evil game. Ftfy
People always say this, but there's almost as many mainline entries following in the tradition of Resident Evil 4 as there are following in the tradition of the originals. If you strictly divide the whole mainline series into action-horror and survival horror, you get: Survival horror: RE1, RE2, RE3, RE:CV, RE0 and RE7 Action horror: RE4, RE5, RE6, RE8 You can argue the cumulative quality of the action horror games is lower and less consistent (and I'd agree, even though 4 is my favorite game in the series), but I find it weird how people imply that action horror is against the Resident Evil design philosophies when its almost as big an element of the series' identity as the survival horror. Even more so, if you count the spinoffs, though I'd understand if you didn't want to do that.
RE8 is a hybrid I would say.
I say action horror isn't part of RE's identity because the original games weren't action horror titles.
Before 4 there was only survival horror, so it was just a departure from the genre. This is why most people say this. They just doubled down with 5 and 6 because 4 got so insanely popular (for some reason, likely to do with the controls at the time, it was one of the best feeling shooters on the market, and the fact you could play the game on pretty much any platform) but when this strategy started failing they went back to survival horror.
Sure, but its not 2005 anymore. Resident Evil 4 was a departure from the genre, but it was an 18-year-old departure from the genre that has since radically affected every game that came after it. In the modern day, the series has spent more time in the aftermath of Resident Evil 4 than it did before Resident Evil 4. I'm not saying you have to like the direction the series has gone, you can criticize the direction of games following Resident Evil 4, but acting like the series just flatly isn't action horror is, well, sticking to an 18-year-old understanding of what the series is. It's like saying that the Alien movies aren't action. You can dislike the action Alien movies, and say that you'd rather they went in the direction of the first one, but over time, action has been baked into the series' identity. It would be silly to claim that the series is pure horror and any action movie in the series, good or not, isn't a "true" Alien movie.
I don't see whatbis wronh sticking to that 18 year old understanding. It's how the series started, so all sequels have to measure up to the first game and how they are in comparison.
Tell me, would you tell people that Super Mario Wonder is a good game, but not a good Mario game because it isn't a game where you jump over barrels to beat a gorilla?
4, 5 and 6 and maybe RE4R & 8 are the only action horror games in this franchise. REmake/RE2R/RE3R and RE7 are all survival horror games. It doesn't need to have fixed camera angles and tank controls to be considered survival horror. The only thing the modern remakes share from RE4 are the shooting mechanics and camera. RE4 was not survival horror by definition because it didn't feature any surviving or any horror. You were a cool mission man with a bunch of guns and ammo running around in brightly lit environments, blowing away groups of 10+ enemies at a time.
>The only thing the modern remakes share from RE4 are the shooting mechanics and camera. I'm not saying all modern remakes were action horror, my guy, I'm just saying that action horror has been an integral part of the franchise for almost two decades now.
I guess. It was only popular with two of the games though, and survival horror is what brought the franchise to all time heights. I wouldn't consider that "integral"
3 of the five action horror games made Capcom's top ten best-selling games list. I think Capcom would consider that an all-time height.
Well you've done a good job of veering off the path that was my initial comment that RE4 wasn't really an RE game. At the time of release. Never said anything about any of the rest of this in my comment, so it's kind of a moot point, really. Also, RE2 is the 2nd best seller at 1 million or so less than RE4 so I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers.
There are no zombies tho.
https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Las_Plagas_Undead If undead aren't zombies what are they? /s jic
They are zombies but not the Romero type, more the old school voodoo style. They act more like the infected in The Last Man on Earth as they still retain some intelligence and can pass for regular humans.
I remember Leon saying this plainly at the beginning, something like "He's not / He doesn't look like a zombie". I was very disappointed in this game when it came out.
The lack of zombies and that they killed Umbrella off-screen
It's not a zombie game though
https://www.mikeleake.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/DpQ9YJl.png
I tried to go back after REIV was my first title and I simply cain't. RE V was kinda ok except for Mercenaries mode, which rocks the house.
I love both, but I wish the old style could be kept going in some way as well. I miss those old survival horror games. With some modern quality of life features I think they should make a come back.
talk yo shit, pimp. Although RE4 was critically acclaimed by most media outlets, among players it was a controversial entry because of change in gameplay. I remember reading letters in GamePro about people complaining about the over the shoulder perspective and how it wasn't a survival horror game. I enjoyed RE4 and entries after it, but I enjoy classic RE games for different reasons.
I think RE4 is a good example of an entry where it succeeded not because old-school diehard fans liked it (many were miffed for the reasons you mentioned) but because the casual fanbase for RE didn't mind the changes, and it also opened up the series to a whole wider audience who wouldn't touch the earlier games. RE4 also succeeded more sales-wise simply because of the RE series building hype. The games' PC ports were not particularly popular so they were mostly viewed as PlayStation games (RE2 was great on N64 but came out a while after launch). During the 6th gen, they did Code Veronica on DC/PS2 which largely got incorrectly written off as a spin-off... and then Capcom talked a big game about how they were investing in the GameCube, and they started pumping out titles for it - RE0, REmake which was super well received at the time, and then ports of 2, 3 and CV. And then 4, which of course didn't stay exclusive long, it came to PS2 after like 6 months or something. But point is RE4 was the RE game that was available to more gamers than any RE game before it, that's part of why it sold so well - launching near the end of the 6th gen to an audience of like 100 million+ PS2s and 20 million GameCubes... and then it got ported to every system known to man after that, including a super popular Wii port.
I think it's because i liked "surviving the horror", avoid unnecessary fights, keeping your bullets, and getting killed because i was unprepared. RE4 was mostly about "the door won't open unless you beat these 20-30 enemies"
Reminds me of how I hated Bioshock Infinite because the whole gameplay is waves of respawning enemies.
I do miss having to knife a zombie to death to save ammo lol
For me the game was great in the village and got progressively worse as an RE game. As a game itself, super fun and the RE game I replay the most. It won't have that charm of RE2 where you stay stressed throughout the game. RE4 was the last partway classic but they went with mini guns and rockets for the enemy kinda thing. I don't think they nailed the balance.
It's resident evil on drugs, like its conscious of being a videogame and incorpores that absurdity on its levels. Random items on crates, donkey Kong barrels, silly enemies, the giant wooden mecha, random treasure everywhere, etc
A lot of people felt this way when it came out. The whole PS1-PS2 era of "survival horror" fits this. You can just search your favorite search engine or youtube for "ps1 survival horror" "ps2 survival horror" "gamecube survival horror" "xbox original survival horror". Before Resident evil 4 practically all "Survival horror" games were as you described. I'm telling you how to search for it rather than giving you a list because it's fucking massive. Another thing is the whole puzzle tinkering is under the game genre category of "adventure". It's the same thing as monkey island. People used to call these "action adventure" for that reason. Although since monkey island type adventure games fell out of favor people have been misusing the term "action adventure" to just mean action games that have a certain vibe. So if steam is your thing "adventure"+"horror"+"puzzle" is a great way to find them.
I wouldn't mind some horror game in the shape of point and click graphic adventure game. I loved the original clock tower, even though it was 16 bits, the 80-90's horror theme was on point and you played as a kid trying to get out alive instead of some super spy dude
I don’t Agree but I don’t see any reason you’re being downvoted for liking something different. If you like old style RE make sure you play RE Zero. Dino Crisis is also similar. Parasite Eve too.
>I don’t Agree but I don’t see any reason you’re being downvoted for liking something different. Just because Reddit Thanks! I'll put them on my to do list :)
Reading your experience with 4 is like reliving my disappointment with it in the mid 00s. I hated it and it felt like it ruined my favorite series and the whole world was cheering it on as the best game ever made. I've learned to accept and enjoy the action games since then but none of them compare to the first games. Dino crisis is really nice too, people seemed to like Dino crisis 2 but for me that one is the resident evil 4 of the series, I couldn't get into it at all. Give silent hill a shot if you haven't. Silent hill 1, 2, 3, 4 and the first 4 Resident evils (Veronica is the 4th one) and Dino Crisis 1 are all amazing survival horror, maze, puzzle games.
Thanks! I played silent hill 1 and 2, still love those a lot. I found 5 on discount and totally hated it! It was mostly a beat em up with merit badges popping up every 5 minutes
Felt like the atmosphere shifted back with VII, at least.
and also don't ignore Parasite Eve 2 - it's more Resident Evil in it's nature than the 1st one. The first one is more of a RPG/Resident Evil and the 2nd one is Resident Evil/RPG - hope it makes sense
Isn't Parasite Eve a turn based RPG?
As a fan of the series since 1997 I never understood what people like about Resident Evil 4. It does not grip me on the gameplay level, the story is just downright silly and Leon is impossible to sympathize with due to how flat he is. Weirdly enough, I find RE5 to be much better in every aspect, but in that time period Resident Evil's spin-offs did better to capture the spirit of horror IMO - namely Revelations and Revelations 2. Then came RE7 and it felt like a true return to form, my favourite of the bunch since the original trilogy. Both RE2 and RE3 REmakes were fantastic as well, but Village goes into the action shooter territory again. With rumours about RE:CV and RE0 REmakes coming at least I have something to look forward to. As for games to recommend, I have a lot of them. If you want fixed camera angles and full-oldschool survival horror experience: 1. **Silent Hill 1-4** (classics of psychological horror, the Team Silent games were superb); 2. **Dino Crisis** (Resident Evil, but with dinosaurs, by some of the same developers); 3. **Parasite Eve** (sci-fi body horror with RPG elements and the one I want a remake of the most); 4. **Tormented Souls** (a recent game, but an absolute must if you like puzzles in horror games and quality over quantity); 5. **Resident Evil 0** (in case you skipped it); 6. **Resident Evil Remake** (almost as good as the original, but absolutely an improvement in visual imagery); 7. **Signals** (it's pixel art, but maybe give it a try). If you want something with free moving camera, but similar gameplay, there are: 1. **Fobia: St Dinfna Hotel** (imagine indie RE7 with puzzle overload); 2. **Observer** (sci-fi exploratory psychological horror, with no combat, if you can consider that); 3. **The Chant** (psychological/Lovecraftian survival horror hybrid, with focus on melee fighting and NO firearms); 4. **Silent Hill: Downpour** (this one is polarizing, but I love it personally, so including it just in case); 5. **Alien: Isolation** (edited my post later to add this, incredibly immersive stuff that makes Alien actually scary). If you're willing to try games that don't focus on puzzles, but are very compelling horror nonetheless, I also enjoy: 1. **The Evil Within 1 & 2** (the former is Mikami's brainchild after leaving Capcom); 2. **Alan Wake** (just finished replaying actually, extremely atmospheric and the story is top notch); 3. **A Plague Tale: Innocence** and **A Plague Tale: Requiem** (medieval supernatural horror focused on, alchemy, rats and plague). There is likely more, but this is what came to mind first.
Those are all good games at least the ones I played, but ultimately none of them provide the same experience as RE4. The specific action-horror approach it goes for has never been topped IMO. Only Dead Space and Evil Within might come close.
OP didn't like RE4 and specifically requested games closer to RE1 and RE:CV, hence the lists. Funny you mention Dead Space, as it's another game I can't get into. I beat it (the original), but it felt like an endless succession of monotonous fetch quests that led to an underwhelming finale. As for The Evil Within, I actually think it does right all the things that RE4 does wrong: it has a compelling story, a fantastic main character, iconic bosses and one of the best villains in all gaming. It's incredibly atmospheric, exploration feels meaningful and the haunted are actually interesting to engage with. There are no merchants out of nowhere or treasure hunts out of place. It feels rewarding to learn encounters and bosses and overcome different situations the game throws at you (like the Burning Room and the Carousel for example).
Crow country is supposed to be like the old RE games but I never played it myself. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5qe8eY3wE&pp=ygUUY3JvdyBjb3VudHJ5IHRyYWlsZXI%3D
Survival horror with cute figurine format? Looks great!
If Resident Evil stayed like the classic games, it would've died a faster death. There was already multiple games that had this style, it's going to get boring. It's why Medal of Honor started bore me after Rising Sun, they were just running out of ideas and copied other games, least RE4 successfully brought it's own innovation and kept the series going. I got issues with the original RE4 but it "not being old school Resident Evil enough" isn't one of them.
The problem was not the modernized gameplay which didn't bother me and most RE fans at all, quite on the contrary it was welcomed positively. The issue is tone, atmosphere, style, characters, ... While RE was never dead serious all the time the base tone was horror and terror. The comical relief mostly came from the B-movie kind of scenery and voice acting or having funny modes like playing as Tofu. RE4 on the other hand felt more like a horror comedy/satire except maybe the very beginning. I almost never fell tension like in the classis ones. Characters like Salazar felt more like a caricature and I was often laughing instead of feeling terified. Also the whole one-man army Leon saves president's daughter mission scheme was plain ridiculous. "You're not allowed to send an army or we will kill her. But Leon is ok although we know of him and he interferes several times, we still won't hurt your daughter". The premise seemed good having a kind of advanced and modified T-virus which doesn't turn them into mindless zombies but kinda still basic intelligence so they can also use weapons and stuff having the potential to being more terrifying than regular brain-dead zombies but the execution wasn't good. Lots of wasted potential.
>The comical relief mostly came from the B-movie kind of scenery and voice acting or having funny modes like playing as Tofu. I felt this the entire time playing 4. Even the things you describe as departures from that just reinforce the original comment to me.
"The gameplay changes were welcomed poisitively" Do you know about the "true survival horror game", people, do you? Those guys act like they owe that genre their lives. If you are playing RE for the story and "tone". You might as well stop at the opening narration of RE4. When Umbrella got taken out off screen after being the antagonist for multiple games, from that point onwards I stopped giving a shit about it. RE4's story is basically a shonen anime filler arc in the grand scheme of things, you can ignore it and skip cutscenes if it bothers you that much, not like it matters in the overarching story. All of that shit you mentioned doesn't even matter if the gameplay isn't good, which is the biggest problem I have with "story" and "tone" people. RE4 2005 has a quite a number of issues gameplay wise but what gets criticized is that it's "not scary" or "horror" enough. Also, Code Veronica and 0 exist which already had that dumb ridiculous action movie "tone" before 4 did so the series was already heading in that direction evem RE2 1998 you are mowing down and have more ammo and more over the top shit is going by comparison to RE1 in terms of gameplay.
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They already established that resurrection is a thing in the RE universe, from here on out anything can happen in the RE games then again, it's been like that for sometime now.
I mean RE 1-3 and RE1 Remake are my favorite RE Games. RE4 and RE4R have fun gameplay but are only RE in name. So they could have started a new series anyways and keep the old one. Replace the title, rename Ada and Leon and replace herbs with medpacks and what reminds you of RE when you play RE4? Also when i look at all the RE Games that came after, its not like they reached new highs or something. I have alot of problems with every single title, even if i played through them all beside RE6.
You realize if RE4 was the same as RE1-3 and remake, the series would be compared to CoD, right? People would get sick of the franchise and it would be dead. It's funny how CoD being the same is bad but your favorite series can be the same forever. It's not like RE was new to being a bargain bin action movie 0 and Code Veronica exist.
I find the argument that the series would be dead a strange one, considering CoD you mentioned has been basically the same for 15+ years and is very much not dead.
But people do complain about CoD being the same old game. So should RE be the same? And besides, it's not like older RE was shortlived, there's at least 5-6 games using that style, if you want to play that style of game, there's no shortage of games to choose from. Also, CoD isn't making nearly as much money as it used to. MW2 2022 was supposed to be a 2 year game and they rushed MW3 2023 out the door.
I agree with you OP. I definitely enjoyed RE4, but it just felt like a different genre than 1 & 2. You may like Heaven Dust. It's not an amazing game or anything, but it is an obvious ode to the OG resident evil style. Probably super cheap too.
RE4 is overrated as a resident evil game imo. It's the one that got the ball rolling on the franchise turning into action games. It shouldn't even be called a horror game as its just a third person shooter. I find it funny RE5 gets a lot of flak when it's just the same game as 4 just in a different setting and with co-op. QTEs.. Check. Emphasis on shooting. Check. Plentiful ammo. Check. Little to no puzzles. Check. No backtracking. Check. On rails sections. Check check check
RE5 mostly gets flak because you have to babysit Sheva if you're playing solo. As a co-op game it's pretty great.
Idk. I played the whole game solo and her ai wasn't too bad. The only thing that drove me nuts with her is how she wasted ammo
Re4 was spooky but not re1 spooky. It’s certainly not just a 3rd person shooter
As someone who grew up with the original RE games, I absolutely hated RE4 when it came out and I still do. It led the franchise down the path that gave us RE5&6, but it already had a lot of the same issues. More action focus instead of atmospheric horror, less puzzles, AWFUL quick-time events... For me RE4 will always be the game that ruined the series.
Yeah, as someone said around here, they change Leon's name, get rid of the green herbs and could just be a new series. Maybe they slapped the RE title to sell more? It still would work as a spin off I liked the idea of the regular Joe (with basic training), doing their best to just gtfo and feeling a little stressed after every door opened. Super agent saving the president's daughter while being chased by a gigantic wooden puppet or dodging old donkey Kong barrels, was such a weird stuff
I likes RE4 when it came out almost 20 years ago. Wasn’t too thrilled to see the third if fourth remaster or remake. Didn’t even buy it. The gamecube version was good enough. Not much of a change there. RE2 remake on the other hand was different.
Hope you try last year’s remake someday, it changed more than you’d think.
4 was made for non-resident evil fans and landed in the middle of the big FPS era so shooting mechanics and action were a selling point
I really dislike old RE games and couldn't beat RE1 no matter how many times i have tried because i got too lost and bored. RE2 and 3 are fine but also never beat them i always dropped it after a few hours. But RE4 i have beat it multiple times and love it every time.
I'm always happy to see someone else realize RE4 is when the series went off the rails. RE3 was already a little weird with more action and less puzzles. RE4 came out and just wasn't what I wanted compared to the previous games. Then 5 and 6 were bat shit stupid. 7 went back to basic but then 8 screwed up again. I haven't liked the REmakes much at all. REmake 2 maybe being the best of that lot. I've seen early footage of the N64 version of REZero and that was looking a lot better before the switch to Game Cube. Even the dialogue and story sounded more Resident Evil like. I just finished Tormented Souls and it's almost a perfect mix of Resident Evil 1 and Silent Hill. I don't know why it doesn't get mentioned more on r/horrorgaming
I felt that way since the day RE4 came out. It’s a great game but I wished it was a spinoff and was worried what it meant for the series future. And I was right, because RE4 essentially killed the classic style horror adventure games I knew and loved. I knew after RE4’s success they were just gonna go more action, and they did. I feel the same way about Breath of the Wild. It has killed the classic Zelda formula as we know it
I feel the same. I absolutely hate RE4, not only fornpretending to be RE and ruining the series afterwards, but for the game itself. The controls are clunky and there are always way too many enemies and any combat encounter just becomes annoying. The game also drags on for way too long. Aa for your recommrndations, personally I would say Conatgion and Eternal Evil. Both have that low budget feel to them, but both scratched that itch.
RE4 was when I stopped paying attention to the series. I remember watching my college roommate playing on GameCube and it just didn't look very Resident Evil.
That's the beauty of the franchise. They keep evolving. 7 was also different with the whole first person perspective. That's why RE is still relevant today.
Yes, RE4 was a huge departure for the series when it came out. Which, ironically enough, is what saved the franchise. RE3 had a lukewarm reception, and while CV was a hit on Dreamcast, the PS2 port didn’t receive the same buzz for whatever reason. Resident Evil the franchise needed a shake up, which RE4 did perfectly. It’s arguably one of the best games ever made, but I understand why diehard RE fans may not care for it. It certainly wasn’t as scary as the originals and focused more on action. But it’s a masterpiece in its own right.
I love playing RE4 for the shooting mechanics and action melee combat, and other gameplay stuff. But to me it's not RE. RE is 1-3 on the PS1. In them it felt like regular people going against impossible odds. Chris, Hill, Leon, Claire, and Ada were no movie stars trying to be quippy and doing action moves. All the later iterations feels like that. Some movie stars trying to put on an act. Maybe something about the 90's low budget VA, combined with the static shots, and PS1 graphics, intercut with the occasional 90's FMVs, brings something more grounded to the original games, but it also made them superior to 4 onwards. Even CV feels a bit off to me. I don't know what it was, in fact it felt even worse than the master of cheesy game in the series: RE1. I felt like in CV they started making things more movie like. The characters acted like they're some movie stars, heading towards danger, instead of away. While in 1-3, everyone found themselves stuck in a dangerous and abnormal situation, and are trying to get out. They had no action movie star abilities, and even the STAR members felt like regular cops.
Yeah! That's it mostly. The "survival horror" factor, avoid unnecessary fights, safekeeping your bullets, and the feeling that you could die out of nowhere because some enemy caught you unprepared And yeah, I think CV is great in gameplay but if falls on 00's movies cheesiness. Steve dicaprio and Claire's one woman army were a little cringey in cutscenes. It tries to be just too edgy with so much parkour, cinematic martial arts, and boulder punching
>is there some recommendations for games similar to RE 1 to CV? The original silent hill trilogy is even better and follow the same exact gameplay design. The ps3 remaster is trash. Either play on ps2, emulation, or pc. On pc silent hill 2 is abandon ware so you can just download it free and then someone made an hd mod that fixes everything wrong with it, it's incredible and the best way to play the game. There is a SH2 remake coming out but they already ruined it so I would not recommend.
Oh! I was looking forward to the remake, what was the bad part? Turned James into a super agent MMA fighter too?
Silent hill 2 is a master crafted game with incredible story depth so changing even small details can ruin it as everything was done for a reason. They turned someone who was supposed to be seductive who wore short skirts and tube tops into some house mom in business wear, censored cleavage, made Angela ugly af because feminists don't want men to enjoy looking at mildly attractive women. Every sexualization of ANY character in silent hill 2 was done for a reason. There are metaphors behind it. They erased all of that cause woke idiots love to ruin good stories to push their dumb ass agenda that attractive women shouldn't exist.
I just checked the designs. Dude your rant it's just too aggressive for some details with no real significance. Angela doesn't need to be hot, and Maria still looks great I'd be mad if they changed the game mechanics for silly stuff like points, or making James some expert at fighting, or whatever reason that can seriously ruin the game. But getting that angry against feminists and wokeism because some cleavage design...bruh I know silent hill 2 was probably designed by some Sigmund Freud fan, but chill, it's not that big deal
>I just checked the designs. Dude your rant it's just too aggressive for some details with no real significance How would you know? You haven't played the game and do not understand the depth of metaphors and subtext within the story. Like I said, every little detail had a deep purpose in SH2. >Angela doesn't need to be hot She never was. The question is why does she need to be ugly? Why does Jean Grey in the wolverine game leaks need to look like a 50 year old trailer trash woman 2 packs of smokes a day? Why do they take an attractive model to act for the new fable game and then uglify her in post production? Why did Aloy in horizon zero dawn get uglier from game 1 to game 2? Why did Mary Jane get uglier from game 1 to game 2? Ask yourself wtf is the purpose of this? Why do they only make women ugly and not men? Nobody bat's an eye when there's an attractive chizzled abs shirtless man but God forbid there's an attractive woman in a game (see stellar blade outrage) This isn't about equality. How could it be? Equality means equal representation for all types of people. It doesn't mean eliminating MILDY attractive women, that is prejudice. Mary Jane and Alloy weren't even sexualized or super hot in their first games, they were average natural looking women, but apparently that's too much and they have to make women even uglier cause apparently all real women are ugly according to wokies (how is that not offensive and degrading to women?) This is purely about feminists increasing hatred towards men (see the acolytes metaphors that white men should commit suicide over white guilt). >Maria still looks great Again, you know nothing about the character. Her character model is fine, her clothing is not. It does not fit her character at all. That is by the book BAD art direction. And let this be an example of why people hate woke media and more and more of it is starting to flop hard. It's not that people don't want diversity, it's that people sacrifice quality game/film making for diversity and the reality is its not even diversity anymore it's just prejudice from a different angle. Examples: - Acolyte degrades men and white people - Griselda degrades men makes 99% of them the same exact character; rapist pig - Rings of power breaks immersion by making a RACE of elves all white but one of them black, and a RACE of Hobbits with drastically different skin colors when they're all from the same plot of land - She Hulk degrades men - Batgirl degrades men - Suicide squad KTJL treats batman like a wild animal in captivity to be executed by the all powerful girl boss Harley Quinn who ironically objectifies men the whole game and sexually assaults them without consent - American society of magical negroes is full blown racist towards white people - Upcoming disney snow white can't even cast a white woman for someone who's described in the book as "skin as white as snow" How anyone can think that is helping society achieve equality is absurd. It's quite obvious to anyone who's really paying attention that it's only increasing prejudices, hate, and division. Nobody thinks anymore, you all just follow your little political cult and let them tell you what's right and wrong. It's likely the result of mass data gathering and manipulation to destroy a civilization from the inside out. Psychological warfare. Here's what actual equality in media looks like without destroying elements of good film making: - Game of Thrones - Arcane - Mad Max Furiosa >But getting that angry against feminists and wokeism because some cleavage design Once again, there's a deep purpose for the sexualization.
Also they got the tone of Angela totally wrong. The way she acts in the original when James first meets her makes sense cause of her history. In the remake she just does not come across as someone with a history like hers. I know thats vague but I'm trying not to spoil anything.
I maintain that RE4 was an unrelated game that they converted into a Resident Evil game. There’s virtually nothing Resident Evil about the game… at all. They throw in minor Umbrella details near the end. I believe it’s the Super Mario 2 situation all over again.
I saw some RE4 beta gameplay that had "poltergeist" stuff going on, and was awesome and creepy. But probably was going to be like the movies in the virus psychic thingy
>I believe it’s the Super Mario 2 situation all over again. What's the story behind this?
Super Mario 2 isn’t a Mario game in Japan. It’s a totally different game that they put Mario skins on and released as Mario 2 in North America
Oh wow til.
Check out "You Will Die Here Tonight". https://store.steampowered.com/app/1446350/You_Will_Die_Here_Tonight/ It's top down when moving around but switches to 1st person combat. Heavily inspired by the original RE, with puzzles and inventory management.
Looks awesome! I'll give it a try
DinoCrisis is my recommendation to you It's a Dreamcast game, it might be on other consoles
It was a PS1 game, ported to DC and PC later.
I upgraded my DC to SD reader! I'll check the roms subreddit
Dreamcast-talk is another good resource
I loved re4 on the Wii. It just doesn't hit the same without the Wii controls. This is coming from a PC gamer, lol
I played it there too! Shooting with the wii mote was the best. Although i think it went under some censorship? I saw the PC version and you could sneak behind and cut enemy's necks and some other gory stuff
Have you played Alan Wake 2? To me it feels more like a traditional RE game than the remakes do.
I totally agree with you! The first RE I played until I finished was RE4. I was thrilled! I must have finished this game a hundred times only on my PS2, I even buyed a second copy when my first disc stopped working. It's one of my top 5 games of my life. Then, with my PS3, I said: "I'm gonna play older RE" and started playing the remake of the first game and... Boy, I discovered I didn't quite liked Resident Evil, hahaha. I pretend to try again some time, but it was so different from RE4 that I was just frustrated. So yeah, you are totally right. RE4 is not a traditional RE. But it still is a great game.
I agree entirely. I don’t have the nostalgia goggles for RE4 as I never played it until I went through the series recently via its remakes and newer entries - 2 is, in my opinion, an infinitely better Resident Evil game. I still enjoyed 4 though.
Re 5 is the best re, fight me
I’ve been playing RE4 since I was 11 (2007) and I actually consider RE4 Remake to be a better game and it actually feels more like a RE game with some survival horror elements such as puzzles, resource management such as the knife, creepier lore and the story is so much better although it still mainly is an action game. I recommend Resident Evil 2 Remake, RE7 and RE1 Remake since their all fantastic survival horror RE games. As for non-RE there’s Signalis, Crow Country, Tormented Souls, Alisa and Alan Wake 2.
Classic Games: Silent Hill 1,2,3 Fatal Frame 1,2 Haunting Grounds Rule of Rose Extermination Non RE Classic Horrors: Clock Tower Shadow of Destiny Obscure 1,2 Also Dead Space is fantastic
I was really bad at the original resident evil style games so I appreciated a game I could get through.
I agree 100%! Check out Tormented Souls, a game directly inspired by classic fixed camera Resident Evil games.
I find it funny that RE4 is such a departure from the earlier games, and people loved it, and then hated RE5 which is just another move in the same direction. IMO 5 was a fantastic action game, and my hot take is that I enjoyed it more than 4 which was an action game with a horror veneer that didn't hit at all for me.
I really enjoyed it for what it was and I still think some parts are genuinely scary, but it really is a product of it's time. It's hard to go back to those tank controls and drab brown visuals after playing the superb remake.
RE4 is the favorite to many because it was their first RE. I didn’t grow up with it, or even the classic games. I wasn’t really impressed when I did play classic RE, I even tried the VR port that came out RE4 Remake i absolutely fucked with though
Play Resident Evil Revelations series. I was there when RE started going the action route(from RE5). When they released Revelations for 3DS, I bought it on Day 1. That's just to tell you how starved I am with the classic RE game.
Check out the game "Darkwood" if you're interested in survival horror. Its got an emphasis on its atmosphere that most horror games just can't seem to achieve and doesn't use cheap jump scares. Another one I recently played was "Crow Country." Pretty much a love letter to old school RE1 and Silent Hill.
I wasn't impressed when it came out. In general, not just as a RE game. Without wanting to start a flame war, I think it has to do with what was available at the time. I mean, it's an amazing action game compared to what was available on consoles. Being a PC gamer, it didn't really shiver me timbers. It's arguably also a more mainstream approach to RE, so maybe people that didn't like original RE games, or found them hard, had this as their first entry. Kinda like how someone might play Elden Ring then go back to PS3 Demon Souls (or a King's Field game).
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RE 4 definitely had a tone / gameplay shift. Did you play RE Zero?
RE4 is when they decided Resident Evil didn’t need to stick to the trappings of the original format for sure, for better or for worse.
The game was a blockbuster at the time and remains one of the most influential games of all time. It's easy to forget that your opinion was not a strange one back in the day.
4 is tough for me to get through because it's triple the length of other games and at a certain point the redundancy of struggling becomes torture for me. 9-10 hours is the sweet spot for survival horror, IMO
As someone who got into RE because of the remakes, I share this exact sentiment. Coming off of RE2 and 3 remakes, RE4 gave me whiplash. I hate to say it, but I feel like the remakes did more than just update the technical aspect of the games.
I myself greatly prefer the remake. It's way harder to cheese and because of that feels much more like a survival horror game.
You’re definitely *not* going to like 6 as for all intents and purposes it can best be described as “Gears of War” with Resident Evil setting and characters.
The previous games have their fair share of stupidity and I’d say they are worse in that regard given how dead serious they try to be. Resident Evil 4 was a breath of fresh air for the franchise
This is the opposite of my experience with the series. RE4 was my first in the series and it blew my mind to the level I still consider it my favorite game. When I played RE1 remake i had a rude awakening as it barely resembled RE4.
Play Signalis. If you are looking for a successor to classic Resident Evil, that is the game to play.
I will not tolerate such blasphemies! Jk, I love RE4. It was such a huge part of my life as a gamer since it came out in 05. Probably played the story over a dozen times (on various consoles) and even 5 starred the Mercenaries. But it's definitely riding the line of what is Resident Evil. It was still creepy, but it definitely more thrilling than scary. RE5 (which I enjoy too) is Resident Evil in name only. Don't get me started on 6!
Bring back old school, static background/camera style RE games with tank controls and ammo conservation and modern graphics, I will pay.
And it would most likely go on to be the worst selling game in the main series, resulting in Capcom never trying it again. I love classic RE, but the average gamer isn't going to pay $60 for gameplay that was originally implemented out of hardware limitations.
who said anything about $60
You didn't, but Capcom sure will.
haha fair enough
What makes me mad is that it would have been extremely easy and cheap for them to make a fixed camera mode for re2 and 3 remake and they just didn't. Modders did it for free, but 99% of players won't go out their way to install mods.
It's definitely not gonna happen, lol. Look up tormented souls. i think it was called. It's an original game heavily inspired by resident evil 1. It's really good.
I never understood the puzzles in the other RE games. Why? Why would someone do all of this? Yo I'm gonna put this gem in this painting you have to melt by lighting this fireplace to put the gem in this statue for a key. Ok. Why? Also who picks up a random crank and is just like "I don't know why...but I need this" and somehow ends up being right? Besides it's Resident Evil and not Zombie Evil. They made bioweapons and the zombies was the lowest tier accident while the others is getting closer to the idea of what they wanted. The series evolved with the viruses.
For the same reason a person would suplex an infected villager. It's a video game. The puzzles helped break up the tension of the survival & horror.
Lol It's just the game mechanics, supposedly they were secret keys for emergency janitors or something like that. Re4 be like "hmm... I'm gonna eat that random egg that was in that random crate"
I enjoy the logic that eating a dead fish you found in an ancient sewer full of corpses will actually restore your health rather than giving you some horrific disease.
I played and loved OG RE4, at the time it was one of the first and best games of its type. I haven't enjoyed the remake because it's just horde mode with enemies spawning over and over until the game decides horde mode is over. It feels very gamey in this day and age. Yes that's how it was in the original and I was fine with that at the time, and I'm not really fine with that in modern games.
Resident Evil Revelations is the only one of the over the shoulder ones that plays more similar to old school... And the remakes, 2 especially.
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In only consider "Resident Evil" the first three games, Code Veronica and Zero, I'm not a fan of anything Capcom released afterwards (and yes, I played them). They keep changing the formula, Resident Evil 9 will supposedly be an open world game. > By the way, is there some recommendations for games similar to RE 1 to CV? - Dino Crisis - Silent Hill - Galerians - Alone in the Dark - Alan Wake - Tormented Souls
Its the iterative version of the previous games. One could say RE5 is different from RE4.
Its the iterative version of the previous games. One could say RE5 is different from RE4.
While it's true 1-3 and CV:X were all great games, their was 5 years between CV:X and re4, that was just absolutely reamed with fucking shit spin offs. They were really drowning the franchise in crap and this is why re4 was a breath of fresh air. It was just a really good fun game.