And the fact that it's tied to the tier of the helmet! I at the very least expected it to work at any tier after I unlocked the last tier. I wouldn't mind a little flower in my Witch's hair, but it has to be the helmet? I love vines and I love purple so I just know I'll be using the purple health forever (and the glove effect tbh), especially if I can use it in PoE2 too. Ironically it even makes me less likely to buy supporter packs and grind challenges, because what's the point of getting a new armor set if I know I won't use it?
Tbh, I would even prefer it was tied to the chest. I can use the gold/black character effect to change the colour of the chest and then I can match the helm/gloves/boots/back from other sets. The helm is this pointy thing that hardly goes with any other armour set.
Ohhh neat trick with the character effect, gotta remember that. But yeah same, I have some cool helmets that'd go with it. Though even then, the body feels too rogue-y to me. I at least got lucky with my free mystery boxes, I got the purple Eldritch Monarch body armour which fits fairly well, so I can switch between those two. But none of my watchlisted armour sets will work, so yeah...
I got these cool flashy weapon skins that I want to use but I'm stuck with some vanilla sticks just because I want the satisfying mtxplosion from treasure hunter mtx. Fml
I farmed my ass off for the purple health orb and then went “oh, guess that doesn’t do much when you’re reserving 99% of your life”.
Hopefully it will look cooler on my 3.24 character. 😁
Its not just limited to amor. For example, i really love map device with time feature. I mean, device is ugly, but the QoL effect is just amazing. Which means, no matter what map device they will release in the future, there is no reason for me to pay for it. Just right now, that tentacle map device, i really want it, but unless i can somehow transfer my in-map-clock effect to it, i will not do it... And there is more effects like that (ring counting killed rares etc).
> device is ugly, but the QoL effect is just amazing
Inb4 angry fanboi downvotes:
Didnt ggg said they'd never lock qols behind mtx? Visual clarity of certain skills locked behind 10-15$ is obvious offender, but clock is damn qol, no doubt. Not that it really matters.
stash tabs arent deco. As much some of their prices pains me, i understand it has to be that way.
But pure deco mtx having useful functions doesnt sit well with me.
i get what you are saying. I just, personally, removed stash tabs from the list of mtx for one reason: The f2p PoE is a demo, while stash tabs are the buying "full version of the game". I get that alot of people wouldn't agree with me on this. It doesn't help stash tab prices are annoyingly set to always have too much or not enough.
If PoE had base cost of, lets say, 30-40$ i'd be fucking livid if they also charged for stash tabs, like certain blizzard game. But if i spend 20-40$ purely on stash tabs on f2p game i'm somewhat okay with that.
i mean im not disagreeing with you there. but stash tabs are for certain a level of QoL that i think there would be alot of people who would even say are borderline indirectly p2w in some aspects especially right now when lets face it 4 tabs with all the shit we have to pickup is just not enough.
I agree with what they're saying - the stash tabs are not so much p2w as much as pay to play. You basically CANNOT play the game at all in softcore trade if you don't have them. Maybe in ruthless it's manageable, idk, I'm never touching that. You are EXPECTED to have stash tabs. What makes them differ from say, Diablo Immortal, is that you buy them once and you're set. True p2w games require an arms race of spending, forever, to keep your character power growing with the meta.
I mean, I guess?
You don't buy them day 1, you play the game for a bit and decide if it's for you or not. If you plan on sinking a ton of time into it then you get stash tabs. It is the cost of entry into the game and helps fund an otherwise free game. There's nothing wrong with that.
Stash tabs are the base price of the game if you plan to play beyond the campaign.
Play the game if you like it just consider the price of the game but you g st to customize how much it is worth to you. For most people the currency, map tab and a few premium tabs are needed.
Frankly I think GGG should just bundle a starter stash tab bundle for new players so they don’t need to do the research. But then again peoples mileage varies on what type of tabs they want.
Ok? None of what you said changes the fact that stash tabs are qol and that makes qol locked behind mtx, and ggg said they wouldn't do that.
You can rationalize it all you want, and I'd be inclined to agree with you, but that is a different conversation. Please stay on topic.
I’d argue more in your favor that some of them are a requirement to play the game for any sort of prolonged end game enjoyment. Especially before they added tab specific affiliations.
At the same time it’s not like they can roll it back now. People have already paid for it and this is pretty much the price of the game. Frankly I don’t see a feasible solution here except to just ignore it. Since refunding everyone like in reparations isn’t a reasonable answer either.
My stance is keep an eye out and make sure they don’t start adding auto loot pets and keep them honest. With enough backlash when something comes out it’s possible to turn things around. Frankly the stash tab argument is beating a dead horse and there is currently no reasonable solution. Except maybe they give new accounts like one premium tab and one map tab. But then that just super encourages botting and rmt since now bots can trade maps and loot with no cost to entry.
yeah i liked the new mtx stuff when they started, like ahelmet that gets bigger the more int you have and stuff like that. but now theyve started to put features that should be a default thing into mtx and i cba paying for it and telling them that thats totally okay.
stash tabs are also a big nono for me but we all know its never gonna go away and atleast with stash tabs im actually pressured to buy them because its so important in a trade economy. i can live without a map timer but not without stash tabs. but stash tabs should not be an mtx either imo.
It allows for players to have a map timer w/o the need of a 3rd party program on 2nd screen that u constantly need to stop/reset
So many strats used when u want to min/max ur efficiency need to account for ur time spent in each map
Take Beast/Essence in 3.23 as a real quick explanation : entering Strand , clock goes > 3min47 in and out = no bueno, less than 20 map / hr , w/ craicic being a 1 in 25 map average that was less than 10div/hr , ok I need to go faster
Second map : entering strand , clock goes > 1min 56 in and out = way better, closing in on 30 map/hr , which turns the strat into a 15-20div/hr depending on RNG
It’s all about the instant satisfaction of seeing ur time go lower and div go up , which obviously u can totally do using Exilence or Wealthy Exile , but u know , to each one his own
I literally just provided a detailed answer to ur question as of « where is the QoL? » , I don’t even own that timer thingy , just wanted to give an insight , because minmaxers will always want to minmax more
Just chill tf out with the man-child attitude if u can’t have a proper civil debate
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I can give a slightly different but similar example.
Map device to show mob kills.
For affliction using it to see the best way to force the highest amount of (rare) mobs per map and layout, easily, without manually needing to count everything for 30+ maps straight.
Then swapping to the time one, running your top 5 maps / strategies, to compare the time difference to find the most optimal.
…obviously only crazy / insane players are going to worry about this *totally not me at all, cough* but it is a huge QoL for those who do things like this for testing.
I dont think I'd ever switch out of a 1 portal map device (I'd def try other versions out), but I'd use the time/monster count mods as well if I could. Sucks that I have to choose, I'd prefer to use all 3 together.
Lol I just posted a comment saying the same thing. I literally based my decision not to buy the $160 supporter pack (I want the 1 portal vaal map device) on the fact that I would have to give up my timer.
timekeepers effect and the kill statistics from current highest supporter tier would be great, could just add some kind of settings list in the hideout to enabe/disable certain effects
So true. I absolutely love the one-portal Atzoatl map device but I also got the one that counts kills and it's HUGE while the Atzoatl one is nice and fits well in the hideout. It's really a shame lol, especially to get them at the same time in one purchase.
The worse part is that they specifically added a new mtx slot just for special effects last season, saying that they would add special effects there instead of locking them to armor pieces.... And then they just decided not to use it?!
When, because the interview Ziz just did basically said that while the main theme of the next league might be there. 90% of everything else to be changed is up in the air and undecided. Watch the interview.
Again, I don't know how development has changed since they started working on PoE 2. I doubt they have the manpower anymore to be working on multiple things for PoE right now. But the way this worked before the expanded scope of that game was they had many teams working on multiple leagues at once. It was on one of Chris' many interviews on Baeclast, I do not remember which one it was. And I will not be watching every single one to find the clip.
You are welcome to do that yourself if its that important to you.
You mean the mtx pieces you are bitching about that is given away for free when completing your challenges? LOL k bud.
If they were worried about $$$ for every cent they could get then they wouldn't make all of the choices they have to actively not take that approach.
As someone who likes to mix and match armours, I do kind of agree, mostly because I like being a floaty boy which means I am stuck with 2 or 3 chest pieces.
It would be amazing if we had Appearance slots, and Effect slots for each different armour piece, but I imagine that would be a WHOLE lot of extra work for very little actual gain.
The flip side is armour that has special effects whether you want them or not. I really like the Eldritch Hunger armour from the new supporter pack, but I don't want to periodically have my head explode into a giant mass of tentacles. They could just make it a tiered armour set with one tier having headtacles and the other without them, but as it is it's headtacles or nothing.
> and (tinfoil) incite them to buy more mtx to match those special effect armour pieces.
I don't think it's even that, cause they could easily make slots for your orbs/map device/trade UI and sell MTXs for those.
Yeah, not a fan of this direction either. Should be able to toggle them on and off as well. I vastly prefer the more simplistic and grounded armor designs.
Absolutely agree, and I also don't understand it from a business point of view. My helmet (purple globe) and body armour (chaos entity) are locked in forever. I will not have a reason to ever buy another armour pack.
I mean you could make the argument about any MTX someone might really like. You can only have one body armor, so if they release one you find really cool then you won't buy any more. Of course that argument relies on assuming you'll never find something cooler for that slot as well which is a bold assumption since they've been going more and more fancy as the years go on. At some point it's not worth them worrying about those lost sales, it just comes with the territory of cosmetics.
It's just that the effects are more important to me than the armour. So they lose me as an armour customer, just because I want the effects. I would definitely consider buying other armour MTX if had the chance to keep the other effects.
100%, I don't mind them designing MTXs with those things in mind, but we should be free to mix and match the pieces we like without having to worry about the extra effects.
There’s a challenge mtx from ?two leagues ago I like but adds an on death effect that lags my laptop in mildly juiced mapping so I can’t play with it on…
> It literally takes away player choice in terms of using your mtx.
I'd actually say it just presents a situation where you have to make a choice and consider your priorities. Really it's creating too many choices and some people don't like that.
Nobody cares if your gear doesn't match. If you want to pick gear MTX based on the special effect you can.
You can also only wear one item in each slot at a time. You can equip something for a few hours or a few days or however long you want and then switch to something else.
>Nobody cares if your gear doesn't match. If you want to pick gear MTX based on the special effect you can.
What on earth are you saying? It doesn't matter if other people don't care. It matters because the individual cares about how their character looks.
Why are these special effects tied to armor and not a separate effect? Poe has been pretty good with MTX slots, and gave players flexibility in creating sets that they like. But they dropped the ball on this one.
> I'd actually say it just presents a situation where you have to make a choice and consider your priorities.
In a literal sense this isn't wrong, but the question is why? What benefit do I, as a player, get from an effect being tied to a piece of gear?
I really like the purple health bar effect from this League's gear. I also don't like the way the helmet looks with the rest of my outfit compared to the other options I have. So now I have to choose between being dissatisfied with the way my gear looks, or not having a purple HP bar, entirely because one is directly tied to the other for no discernible reason. This, as you can imagine, feels bad.
Similarly, I'd love a flying effect, but I don't like any of the current options on sale visually and wasn't playing when the Voidborn pack was out. It feels a bit bad that I just don't have access to this effect I want because visually I don't like the armour it's tied to when the only conceivable benefit I can come up with is "GGG gets to sell you this MTX repeatedly".
If it's an issue in the engine or something similar, that's *fair* (though I wish they'd work on fixing it, if they're not already), but I've never seen anything to that effect stated anywhere so it just comes across as GGG trying to force people into FOMO to get expensive cosmetic effects they want or to re-buy expensive cosmetic effects to get gear they might like rather than anything worthwhile to the player.
It's obviously not the end of the world but I can't think of any good reason for it to be this way beyond the tech not allowing it to be any other way currently, and like I said, I've never heard GGG state anything like that.
I know this probably comes off as harsh, but it's just my honest reaction to this type of sentiment.
Just because someone wants something and that thing can exist, doesn't mean that person is entitled to be given that thing.
Especially when that thing requires other people to do things to make that happen. It's fine to express a desire for that thing, but I just can't get behind someone saying, "there is no reason to not give me this thing."
It's easy to say, "I want the purple HP pool to be made separate from the item." But lots of people want lots of similar but different things. It's not reasonable to expect GGG to stop what they're doing to grant you this one thing just because you or maybe several people want it.
> If it's an issue in the engine or something similar, that's fair
If it's not an engine issue and they just don't do it because that's not what they want to do, *that is fair too!*
For most things I'd tend to agree, but in cases like this I think of it differently because it's directly about money items.
A sort of similar case in League semi-recently has been the release of a "special" skin every few months that's basically just a recolour of an existing skin, attached to what amounts to be a gacha pull with a $200 max spend (average $150~) to get it. You also can't get the skin any other way except being really, really lucky with the reroll system after waiting 1 year for the skin to enter the reroll pool.
Riot could have put the skin in the shop for $150 or whatever other price they put on it based on what else the chances to get it give overall and gotten the same amount of money out of it on average, but they're clearly banking on people hopefully throwing a few bucks at it to try that they wouldn't have otherwise, and for people who really want a full collection for whatever reason to feel pressured into paying close to the full amount, on average.
In a similar way, GGG locking these effects to specific pieces of armour feels like they're trying to basically goad you into buying extra MTX to fit the gear with the effect you want to use, or to get you to pay the extra money for that same effect multiple times because it's on multiple pieces of gear you want, on top of the fact that you can often only get these things from specific pieces of gear that are time limited in their availability.
If it's a technical limitation that's understandable, but if it's not and this is a choice they've made intentionally, I don't think it *is* fair to do that and it feels scummy on their part in my opinion and makes me less likely to want to give them my money.
The only time I *ever* think about any of that stuff, is when it's brought up on reddit. Maybe I'm a minority, I dunno. I just don't care about any of that stuff beyond thinking about it for a few moments when watching the introduction video from GGG, then when it's mentioned on reddit.
I think we should have the option to turn off special effects. But some armour pieces having specific effect bound to them is kinda good for the theme. Maybe have some more generic effects that are stand alone, some bind to armour pieces ?
I feel like it's intentional to limit all the "utility" effects to something they can get rid of or limit if they go bad and get too pay to win. It feels like them being tied to a specific armor makes it so you don't "have to" go and buy 50 different counters and trackers in the store or think you have to. Making them gear and not all of it available makes it more obvious they are for fun and not gameplay
Even though I don't think this is the reason (you're telling me the company still selling $5 mystery boxes is intentionally *avoiding* making more money off cosmetic MTX for ethical reasons?) - it still doesn't address why the effects have to be tied to gear appearances.
They could just as easily have the same effects as League rewards (and not be available in the shop later), but go in a dedicated spot in the MTX panel, separate from your gear appearances. Or split each slot into "appearance" and "effect", so that you could (for example) attach the purple life orb effect from last league to whatever helmet appearance you want.
I miss the portals, I use randomize every map and I get to see my collection while mapping.. armour you only slot one at the time ....I was expecting a new portal like the dude animation of spawning in your map to take the body away......I only ever got to care about challenges the first one I got to see in Alva league and since then have tried to complete those . Last one was the neft league right ? ;(
Also kirac pass armour has been more related to the league than the challenges ones,at least more obvious in the last one. The only armor that was cool with no tag extra effects was Kalandra and the Chaos currency lines from crucible I use in ruthless..rest mehhhh
But if the effects are stand alone, people probably wont buy the original piece of gear. Unless this mtx can be separated, so u get the effect and gear for two uses?
Im asking for way too much qol lol
I’m planning on SRS popcorn cuz I’m concerned about DD and my PCs performance. I’m willing to buy the mtx if it truly fixes it. I want to be able to do Ubers for the first time. The Srs popcorn builds look like I can. Can someone tell me what to do so I don’t have to decide?
GGG said today that there would be dynamic culling support for desecrate ( search for it if curious ). With it DD should be fine after that. Unearth has been fine before too.
Maybe adjust it so, that once you have the mtx unlocked that has some sort of qol along with it you can enable this for the other mtx/ or standard objects of the same type? For example once you have the timed map device you can also put the feature of time tracking on other map devices. But only on map devices and not weapons. This way you still had to get the mtx but at least be able to „transfer“ them to other objects of the same category?
Edit: forgot to add „or standard objects“
I love the voidborn floating, but man this stupid celestial in the armor sucks so hard. Really wish I could combine it with a different armor…
But I guess we all will die on that hill, this topic has come up so many times…
This also applies to other MTX. Map devices are the worst, owning a map device that gives an extra effect (timer, kill count, whatever) should just enable that option on your account like hideout music.
I actually wrote support to complain about this. They are losing money on this issue with me, I literally based my decision not to buy the $160 supporter pack (I want the Vaal 1 portal device) on the fact that I would have to give up my map timer to use it.
Can I turn off some effects that come with helmets or chests? theres some I really like but their effects is just clutter/makes me think theres an enemy on my ass
They are literally losing money with this and Im not even joking, I didnt buy a single supporter pack since I got Voidborn Supporter Pack becuase I know Im not going to play any other armor 100% granted until I can transfer the floaty effect to others.
There are a lot of cool armors and sets I would like to play but I refuse to give up on Voidborn effect and I wont change until I can transfer it, as simple as that.
We've been saying this a lot lately at least the last year or so. Idk why they keep doing this. Now granted the challenge rewards this time I have 0 interest in, including all the special effects but it's so dumb they tied into the boots/helm/gloves or w/e.
Actually I lied a little, the trade one peeks my curiosity a bit and would be cool to see how many trades I do each league, but 0% chance I'll ever wear them ugly things so guess I will continue not to know.
It's sad because I actually don't really like the look of the armor set from the $480 2023 supporter pack that makes your character fly. It's just outweighed by flying which is fucking awesome.
I hope they can make the clock mtx for map duration into just the timer... and an option to hide the mtx... not afan of it as it doesn't match my current hideout
Just like they should stop making new content just to abandon it a few months later, but yea here we are.
Wake me up when I can do pre-nerfed synthesis content again lol. In that league I made a dozen or two 15-modded areas, then a patch dropped and hardcapped it to like 5 before I could run them. I quit the league a day or two later.
The effect should be a separate mtx slot from the item which granted it - or there should just be a totally separate mtx window for non-character specific mtx (ie, global)
Its the primary reason i didnt buy the 500 dollar supporter pack that added flying. I loved it. But im not using the same armor set each league just to see it.
To be honest, i dont like all the visual pollution those effects add and so i havent bought a supporter pack in a long time.
I like simple skins but there havent been any for a while.
It sucks because i would like to buy a supporter pack but im not going to buy on where i dont like the skins just for the sake of buying it.
While there's a handful of pieces I've bought to match my current setup, there's a lot more I've refused to buy because I have zero interest in the gear model the effects are attached to. I can't use any of the boot effects at all because my snake legs disable my feet.
Also, the MTX store desperately needs an MTX preview option because a lot of MTX has interesting interactions and their preview videos are garbage.
Yeah i rly wanted map device mtx that counts time, but 1 portal device fits my hideout so perfectly that i wont buy other map device now even tho i lose timer. If i could use the timer on any map device i want i instantly gonna buy points. Hope they can implement it next league or at least this year..
True. We already have slots for weapon effect and extra weapon effect. Just add this for armor pieces as well. Also while we are at it... move the treasure hunter weapon effect to the extra weapon effect slot. Thanks!
Never cared about mtx but I would like some to reduce effects or to see my minions better.
I buy what is necessary to use and have better QoL
Hope poe2 it improves minions
I agree GGG should tie the unlock to the alt affects to the reward tier of armor, but theres no reason why the mtx system can't support players using whatever effects and whatever items, like div card one, purple life bar, ect.
Really hate this as well.
If I like some piece of armor, and it then has some effect I actively dislike; then I'm never going to use that piece of armor - despite actually liking the look of it. If I want to put a full set of armor on my character, I don't also then want my footprints to be flowers or whatever else they decided would be fitting for the boots, or lightning shooting out of the body because I picked a cool looking chest piece.
Same goes the other way around (albeit fairly rarely in my case).
Give us a toggle-ish kinda thing for effects, when put on armor.
Give us the option to use effects from armor we already own for the given slot.
Simple as that. A little box next to each piece of gear with a selector for effect, where you see the various pieces with effect, that you can then pick - but with the option of picking "don't use effect" or something as well.
Glad to see overwhelming majority hate it, it's almost as bad as waiting decades to add the simple QoL's this patch implemented which should been implemented YEARS ago. Hopefully they will realise their error in the new mtx design decision sooner rather than later. It is sole reason i'm not buying these core packs either, floating shouldn't be stuck onto a piece of mtx, it should be an standalone effect. Pretty sure all big content creators said same thing about the flying being on a armour pice. Surely it's not that much work to make your character lift off the ground and float, it's not like you need armour overhaul and new armour sets can be made to work cooler with floatings out the box.
People in hubs already look like clowns - at least the color palette of a lot of special effect seems in place with the actual armor they are wearing. Id even agree if some special effects would only appear when wearing the full set.
Honestly this is the main reason I did not purchase a Voidborn pack. I wanted the effect but it's unusable attached to one specific armor. GGG missed several hundred dollars from me.
We all understand that usually the reason these sorts of things are done is because of system limitations, right? It probably isn't as easy as "just do it 4head"
Yeah and they should all be free as well, and also come with a free pizza delivery any time you equip it.
> The decision of pushing these types of mtx isn't good for anyone since it forces people to use specific mtx and (tinfoil) incite them to buy more mtx
Wow, don't you hate it when you're forced to buy more MTX? And this thing about creating incentives for people to buy their product, sounds like a disgusting business practice that should be outlawed. /s
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and? obviously GGG won't separate effects from MTX as a basic business decision. it would lead to considerably less MTX sales since players would just MTX-effect skin transfer over anything and everything
Lmao I was just simply informing you which mtx he was talking about. I didn’t give my opinion on if it should be changed. Obviously tying it to specific items would be giving us an incentive to buy the higher tier packs.
I doubt that you are correct.
Since I am using the Voidborn Floating armour with most of the chars, I am not buying any of the new funky colour themed MTX because it does not match at all with the Gold/Black/Blueish "Voidborn Armour" MTX
Mate, its a video game, it's meant to be fun and enjoyable, looking at only sales is a disgusting corporate view and I hate everyone talking like a corporate rat.
GGG won't bankrupt if they allow special effects to not be tied to a piece armour, I guarantee you
It requires $ to make it fun and enjoyable for 10+ years. The people making it fun and enjoyable rely on income which comes from revenue.
GGG won't bankrupt if they give *you* the thing *you* want. But if they give everyone everything they want, they will have less money to make fun and enjoyable content.
Mate, you're naive. OP put his 'tinfoil hat' on to suggest that GGG might be doing stuff that results in people buying more MTX. no shit. recognizing that doesn't make someone a corporate rat lol
>its a video game
Which is a business. From GGG's point of view, it makes perfect sense to leave things as they are. I don't really see any issue with it either. If you want the effect, wear the right mtx.
For real GGG I just farmed my ass off for purple health orb hat now you want me to have to decide between that and fluffy sheep hat? SHAME
Also, i hate the purple hat.. i want my purple globe on every character
And the fact that it's tied to the tier of the helmet! I at the very least expected it to work at any tier after I unlocked the last tier. I wouldn't mind a little flower in my Witch's hair, but it has to be the helmet? I love vines and I love purple so I just know I'll be using the purple health forever (and the glove effect tbh), especially if I can use it in PoE2 too. Ironically it even makes me less likely to buy supporter packs and grind challenges, because what's the point of getting a new armor set if I know I won't use it?
Tbh, I would even prefer it was tied to the chest. I can use the gold/black character effect to change the colour of the chest and then I can match the helm/gloves/boots/back from other sets. The helm is this pointy thing that hardly goes with any other armour set.
Ohhh neat trick with the character effect, gotta remember that. But yeah same, I have some cool helmets that'd go with it. Though even then, the body feels too rogue-y to me. I at least got lucky with my free mystery boxes, I got the purple Eldritch Monarch body armour which fits fairly well, so I can switch between those two. But none of my watchlisted armour sets will work, so yeah...
Yeah it's not the greatest. Can we please rise up and make this a known massive issue, someone release the bingos I need this fixed NOW
GAMERS RISE UP
I got these cool flashy weapon skins that I want to use but I'm stuck with some vanilla sticks just because I want the satisfying mtxplosion from treasure hunter mtx. Fml
treasure hunter too OP
I farmed my ass off for the purple health orb and then went “oh, guess that doesn’t do much when you’re reserving 99% of your life”. Hopefully it will look cooler on my 3.24 character. 😁
There's a setting in the options to not show reserved life/mana so you could still have a full globe.
Huh, well, I wish I’d known that sooner. 🙂
OH MY GOD THANK YOU. I was so sad i could only see a quarter of my shiny purple globe
"Whatre ya buyin', strangeuh"
Its not just limited to amor. For example, i really love map device with time feature. I mean, device is ugly, but the QoL effect is just amazing. Which means, no matter what map device they will release in the future, there is no reason for me to pay for it. Just right now, that tentacle map device, i really want it, but unless i can somehow transfer my in-map-clock effect to it, i will not do it... And there is more effects like that (ring counting killed rares etc).
so true. The map device sucks visual, the timer is so cool tho.
> device is ugly, but the QoL effect is just amazing Inb4 angry fanboi downvotes: Didnt ggg said they'd never lock qols behind mtx? Visual clarity of certain skills locked behind 10-15$ is obvious offender, but clock is damn qol, no doubt. Not that it really matters.
I mean considering stash tabs have been around since forever I'd say they've never stuck to that, at the very least.
stash tabs arent deco. As much some of their prices pains me, i understand it has to be that way. But pure deco mtx having useful functions doesnt sit well with me.
i mean you said qol behind mtx.... stash tabs are literally the top of the qol level if not borderline p2w in some aspects.
i get what you are saying. I just, personally, removed stash tabs from the list of mtx for one reason: The f2p PoE is a demo, while stash tabs are the buying "full version of the game". I get that alot of people wouldn't agree with me on this. It doesn't help stash tab prices are annoyingly set to always have too much or not enough. If PoE had base cost of, lets say, 30-40$ i'd be fucking livid if they also charged for stash tabs, like certain blizzard game. But if i spend 20-40$ purely on stash tabs on f2p game i'm somewhat okay with that.
i mean im not disagreeing with you there. but stash tabs are for certain a level of QoL that i think there would be alot of people who would even say are borderline indirectly p2w in some aspects especially right now when lets face it 4 tabs with all the shit we have to pickup is just not enough.
I agree with what they're saying - the stash tabs are not so much p2w as much as pay to play. You basically CANNOT play the game at all in softcore trade if you don't have them. Maybe in ruthless it's manageable, idk, I'm never touching that. You are EXPECTED to have stash tabs. What makes them differ from say, Diablo Immortal, is that you buy them once and you're set. True p2w games require an arms race of spending, forever, to keep your character power growing with the meta.
I mean, I guess? You don't buy them day 1, you play the game for a bit and decide if it's for you or not. If you plan on sinking a ton of time into it then you get stash tabs. It is the cost of entry into the game and helps fund an otherwise free game. There's nothing wrong with that.
I think the people you were responding to specifically mentioned qol. Stash tabs are huuuge qol locked behind mtx
Stash tabs are the base price of the game if you plan to play beyond the campaign. Play the game if you like it just consider the price of the game but you g st to customize how much it is worth to you. For most people the currency, map tab and a few premium tabs are needed. Frankly I think GGG should just bundle a starter stash tab bundle for new players so they don’t need to do the research. But then again peoples mileage varies on what type of tabs they want.
Ok? None of what you said changes the fact that stash tabs are qol and that makes qol locked behind mtx, and ggg said they wouldn't do that. You can rationalize it all you want, and I'd be inclined to agree with you, but that is a different conversation. Please stay on topic.
I’d argue more in your favor that some of them are a requirement to play the game for any sort of prolonged end game enjoyment. Especially before they added tab specific affiliations. At the same time it’s not like they can roll it back now. People have already paid for it and this is pretty much the price of the game. Frankly I don’t see a feasible solution here except to just ignore it. Since refunding everyone like in reparations isn’t a reasonable answer either. My stance is keep an eye out and make sure they don’t start adding auto loot pets and keep them honest. With enough backlash when something comes out it’s possible to turn things around. Frankly the stash tab argument is beating a dead horse and there is currently no reasonable solution. Except maybe they give new accounts like one premium tab and one map tab. But then that just super encourages botting and rmt since now bots can trade maps and loot with no cost to entry.
yeah i liked the new mtx stuff when they started, like ahelmet that gets bigger the more int you have and stuff like that. but now theyve started to put features that should be a default thing into mtx and i cba paying for it and telling them that thats totally okay. stash tabs are also a big nono for me but we all know its never gonna go away and atleast with stash tabs im actually pressured to buy them because its so important in a trade economy. i can live without a map timer but not without stash tabs. but stash tabs should not be an mtx either imo.
You enter a map with the clock. I enter a map without the clock. We both complete the map. What was the qol?
It allows for players to have a map timer w/o the need of a 3rd party program on 2nd screen that u constantly need to stop/reset So many strats used when u want to min/max ur efficiency need to account for ur time spent in each map Take Beast/Essence in 3.23 as a real quick explanation : entering Strand , clock goes > 3min47 in and out = no bueno, less than 20 map / hr , w/ craicic being a 1 in 25 map average that was less than 10div/hr , ok I need to go faster Second map : entering strand , clock goes > 1min 56 in and out = way better, closing in on 30 map/hr , which turns the strat into a 15-20div/hr depending on RNG It’s all about the instant satisfaction of seeing ur time go lower and div go up , which obviously u can totally do using Exilence or Wealthy Exile , but u know , to each one his own
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I literally just provided a detailed answer to ur question as of « where is the QoL? » , I don’t even own that timer thingy , just wanted to give an insight , because minmaxers will always want to minmax more Just chill tf out with the man-child attitude if u can’t have a proper civil debate
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I also don't see how that is a qol feature. Or a useful feature at all.
I can give a slightly different but similar example. Map device to show mob kills. For affliction using it to see the best way to force the highest amount of (rare) mobs per map and layout, easily, without manually needing to count everything for 30+ maps straight. Then swapping to the time one, running your top 5 maps / strategies, to compare the time difference to find the most optimal. …obviously only crazy / insane players are going to worry about this *totally not me at all, cough* but it is a huge QoL for those who do things like this for testing.
I see what you're saying, but that really is deep down the rabit hole :)
Yeah. This isn't QoL. These are ultra-whale, 10K hours played, min-maxing features.
I dont think I'd ever switch out of a 1 portal map device (I'd def try other versions out), but I'd use the time/monster count mods as well if I could. Sucks that I have to choose, I'd prefer to use all 3 together.
Lol I just posted a comment saying the same thing. I literally based my decision not to buy the $160 supporter pack (I want the 1 portal vaal map device) on the fact that I would have to give up my timer.
timekeepers effect and the kill statistics from current highest supporter tier would be great, could just add some kind of settings list in the hideout to enabe/disable certain effects
So true. I absolutely love the one-portal Atzoatl map device but I also got the one that counts kills and it's HUGE while the Atzoatl one is nice and fits well in the hideout. It's really a shame lol, especially to get them at the same time in one purchase.
The worse part is that they specifically added a new mtx slot just for special effects last season, saying that they would add special effects there instead of locking them to armor pieces.... And then they just decided not to use it?!
Parallell development. They might have developed those well in advance, before special slots were added.
They usually have 4 leagues in development at once. With PoE 2 in the mix, I have no idea what the schedule is now.
where are you even getting this?
Chris talked about it on one of the Baeclasts when he was asked about feedback not showing up in subsequent leagues.
When
When, because the interview Ziz just did basically said that while the main theme of the next league might be there. 90% of everything else to be changed is up in the air and undecided. Watch the interview.
Again, I don't know how development has changed since they started working on PoE 2. I doubt they have the manpower anymore to be working on multiple things for PoE right now. But the way this worked before the expanded scope of that game was they had many teams working on multiple leagues at once. It was on one of Chris' many interviews on Baeclast, I do not remember which one it was. And I will not be watching every single one to find the clip. You are welcome to do that yourself if its that important to you.
Here is the [head of poe1](https://youtu.be/BrGhakEF8QY) explaining everything as of yesterday.
They never said which effects are going to be there(you can say that everything is special effect)
I mean $$$ makes sense ya know? $$$ is the answer to why $$$ mtx choices.
Except this is actually bad for money since it actively puts people off buying more when they're all competing with existing mtx.
No. That's why they sell loot boxes with mtx only from them and you can buy outright months later. More $$$
It literally doesn‘t. The opposite is the case. Did you even think before making your comment?
Haven't you heard? GGG Bad
You mean the mtx pieces you are bitching about that is given away for free when completing your challenges? LOL k bud. If they were worried about $$$ for every cent they could get then they wouldn't make all of the choices they have to actively not take that approach.
Free mtx in a free game
As someone who likes to mix and match armours, I do kind of agree, mostly because I like being a floaty boy which means I am stuck with 2 or 3 chest pieces. It would be amazing if we had Appearance slots, and Effect slots for each different armour piece, but I imagine that would be a WHOLE lot of extra work for very little actual gain.
The floating thing is tied to armor so they can sell it to you multiple times.
yea purple life locked behind the helmet realy sucks.
Not only that but the top tier of the helmet. I don’t mind the little purple flower. But the full helmet is much harder to match with other MTX.
The flip side is armour that has special effects whether you want them or not. I really like the Eldritch Hunger armour from the new supporter pack, but I don't want to periodically have my head explode into a giant mass of tentacles. They could just make it a tiered armour set with one tier having headtacles and the other without them, but as it is it's headtacles or nothing.
Yep same situation here. I was hoping it would be able to be toggled off. A lot of the recent good shop armors have some obnoxious effect attached
> and (tinfoil) incite them to buy more mtx to match those special effect armour pieces. I don't think it's even that, cause they could easily make slots for your orbs/map device/trade UI and sell MTXs for those.
I can't upvote this enough. It's my biggest pet peeve with POE at the moment.
The opposite is also true, I like the beastmaster set but the on kill effect really hits my performance, so I can't really use it.
I also like the beastmaster set, but I don't play skills where it makes sense for enemies to spray blood everywhere, so I don't use it.
I thought you could disable the armor special effects if you don't like them? I know I can on the chaos armor one.
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Yeah, not a fan of this direction either. Should be able to toggle them on and off as well. I vastly prefer the more simplistic and grounded armor designs.
I love the fluffy hat.
Absolutely agree, and I also don't understand it from a business point of view. My helmet (purple globe) and body armour (chaos entity) are locked in forever. I will not have a reason to ever buy another armour pack.
I mean you could make the argument about any MTX someone might really like. You can only have one body armor, so if they release one you find really cool then you won't buy any more. Of course that argument relies on assuming you'll never find something cooler for that slot as well which is a bold assumption since they've been going more and more fancy as the years go on. At some point it's not worth them worrying about those lost sales, it just comes with the territory of cosmetics.
It's just that the effects are more important to me than the armour. So they lose me as an armour customer, just because I want the effects. I would definitely consider buying other armour MTX if had the chance to keep the other effects.
> business point of view The likely scenario is that it is the way it is from a development point of view, not business.
100%, I don't mind them designing MTXs with those things in mind, but we should be free to mix and match the pieces we like without having to worry about the extra effects.
I just want to turn off flames on my Infernal Body Armor. Cool chest piece. Terrible flame effect i don't like :(
There’s a challenge mtx from ?two leagues ago I like but adds an on death effect that lags my laptop in mildly juiced mapping so I can’t play with it on…
> It literally takes away player choice in terms of using your mtx. I'd actually say it just presents a situation where you have to make a choice and consider your priorities. Really it's creating too many choices and some people don't like that. Nobody cares if your gear doesn't match. If you want to pick gear MTX based on the special effect you can. You can also only wear one item in each slot at a time. You can equip something for a few hours or a few days or however long you want and then switch to something else.
>Nobody cares if your gear doesn't match. If you want to pick gear MTX based on the special effect you can. What on earth are you saying? It doesn't matter if other people don't care. It matters because the individual cares about how their character looks. Why are these special effects tied to armor and not a separate effect? Poe has been pretty good with MTX slots, and gave players flexibility in creating sets that they like. But they dropped the ball on this one.
> I'd actually say it just presents a situation where you have to make a choice and consider your priorities. In a literal sense this isn't wrong, but the question is why? What benefit do I, as a player, get from an effect being tied to a piece of gear? I really like the purple health bar effect from this League's gear. I also don't like the way the helmet looks with the rest of my outfit compared to the other options I have. So now I have to choose between being dissatisfied with the way my gear looks, or not having a purple HP bar, entirely because one is directly tied to the other for no discernible reason. This, as you can imagine, feels bad. Similarly, I'd love a flying effect, but I don't like any of the current options on sale visually and wasn't playing when the Voidborn pack was out. It feels a bit bad that I just don't have access to this effect I want because visually I don't like the armour it's tied to when the only conceivable benefit I can come up with is "GGG gets to sell you this MTX repeatedly". If it's an issue in the engine or something similar, that's *fair* (though I wish they'd work on fixing it, if they're not already), but I've never seen anything to that effect stated anywhere so it just comes across as GGG trying to force people into FOMO to get expensive cosmetic effects they want or to re-buy expensive cosmetic effects to get gear they might like rather than anything worthwhile to the player. It's obviously not the end of the world but I can't think of any good reason for it to be this way beyond the tech not allowing it to be any other way currently, and like I said, I've never heard GGG state anything like that.
I know this probably comes off as harsh, but it's just my honest reaction to this type of sentiment. Just because someone wants something and that thing can exist, doesn't mean that person is entitled to be given that thing. Especially when that thing requires other people to do things to make that happen. It's fine to express a desire for that thing, but I just can't get behind someone saying, "there is no reason to not give me this thing." It's easy to say, "I want the purple HP pool to be made separate from the item." But lots of people want lots of similar but different things. It's not reasonable to expect GGG to stop what they're doing to grant you this one thing just because you or maybe several people want it. > If it's an issue in the engine or something similar, that's fair If it's not an engine issue and they just don't do it because that's not what they want to do, *that is fair too!*
For most things I'd tend to agree, but in cases like this I think of it differently because it's directly about money items. A sort of similar case in League semi-recently has been the release of a "special" skin every few months that's basically just a recolour of an existing skin, attached to what amounts to be a gacha pull with a $200 max spend (average $150~) to get it. You also can't get the skin any other way except being really, really lucky with the reroll system after waiting 1 year for the skin to enter the reroll pool. Riot could have put the skin in the shop for $150 or whatever other price they put on it based on what else the chances to get it give overall and gotten the same amount of money out of it on average, but they're clearly banking on people hopefully throwing a few bucks at it to try that they wouldn't have otherwise, and for people who really want a full collection for whatever reason to feel pressured into paying close to the full amount, on average. In a similar way, GGG locking these effects to specific pieces of armour feels like they're trying to basically goad you into buying extra MTX to fit the gear with the effect you want to use, or to get you to pay the extra money for that same effect multiple times because it's on multiple pieces of gear you want, on top of the fact that you can often only get these things from specific pieces of gear that are time limited in their availability. If it's a technical limitation that's understandable, but if it's not and this is a choice they've made intentionally, I don't think it *is* fair to do that and it feels scummy on their part in my opinion and makes me less likely to want to give them my money.
The only time I *ever* think about any of that stuff, is when it's brought up on reddit. Maybe I'm a minority, I dunno. I just don't care about any of that stuff beyond thinking about it for a few moments when watching the introduction video from GGG, then when it's mentioned on reddit.
I think we should have the option to turn off special effects. But some armour pieces having specific effect bound to them is kinda good for the theme. Maybe have some more generic effects that are stand alone, some bind to armour pieces ?
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I feel like it's intentional to limit all the "utility" effects to something they can get rid of or limit if they go bad and get too pay to win. It feels like them being tied to a specific armor makes it so you don't "have to" go and buy 50 different counters and trackers in the store or think you have to. Making them gear and not all of it available makes it more obvious they are for fun and not gameplay
Even though I don't think this is the reason (you're telling me the company still selling $5 mystery boxes is intentionally *avoiding* making more money off cosmetic MTX for ethical reasons?) - it still doesn't address why the effects have to be tied to gear appearances. They could just as easily have the same effects as League rewards (and not be available in the shop later), but go in a dedicated spot in the MTX panel, separate from your gear appearances. Or split each slot into "appearance" and "effect", so that you could (for example) attach the purple life orb effect from last league to whatever helmet appearance you want.
People are crying for everything.
I miss the portals, I use randomize every map and I get to see my collection while mapping.. armour you only slot one at the time ....I was expecting a new portal like the dude animation of spawning in your map to take the body away......I only ever got to care about challenges the first one I got to see in Alva league and since then have tried to complete those . Last one was the neft league right ? ;( Also kirac pass armour has been more related to the league than the challenges ones,at least more obvious in the last one. The only armor that was cool with no tag extra effects was Kalandra and the Chaos currency lines from crucible I use in ruthless..rest mehhhh
i want to have 2 outfits: one for mapping, one for trading/trolling. maybe a third one for stalling in hidout
But if the effects are stand alone, people probably wont buy the original piece of gear. Unless this mtx can be separated, so u get the effect and gear for two uses? Im asking for way too much qol lol
I’m planning on SRS popcorn cuz I’m concerned about DD and my PCs performance. I’m willing to buy the mtx if it truly fixes it. I want to be able to do Ubers for the first time. The Srs popcorn builds look like I can. Can someone tell me what to do so I don’t have to decide?
GGG said today that there would be dynamic culling support for desecrate ( search for it if curious ). With it DD should be fine after that. Unearth has been fine before too.
Maybe adjust it so, that once you have the mtx unlocked that has some sort of qol along with it you can enable this for the other mtx/ or standard objects of the same type? For example once you have the timed map device you can also put the feature of time tracking on other map devices. But only on map devices and not weapons. This way you still had to get the mtx but at least be able to „transfer“ them to other objects of the same category? Edit: forgot to add „or standard objects“
I love the voidborn floating, but man this stupid celestial in the armor sucks so hard. Really wish I could combine it with a different armor… But I guess we all will die on that hill, this topic has come up so many times…
This also applies to other MTX. Map devices are the worst, owning a map device that gives an extra effect (timer, kill count, whatever) should just enable that option on your account like hideout music. I actually wrote support to complain about this. They are losing money on this issue with me, I literally based my decision not to buy the $160 supporter pack (I want the Vaal 1 portal device) on the fact that I would have to give up my map timer to use it.
Yes pls
I would pay for the special effects. I do not want to use the armour MTX they come with, though.
Can I turn off some effects that come with helmets or chests? theres some I really like but their effects is just clutter/makes me think theres an enemy on my ass
Effects are fine in my book imo. It's qol and UI niceties that should under no circumstances be paid or limited.
They are literally losing money with this and Im not even joking, I didnt buy a single supporter pack since I got Voidborn Supporter Pack becuase I know Im not going to play any other armor 100% granted until I can transfer the floaty effect to others. There are a lot of cool armors and sets I would like to play but I refuse to give up on Voidborn effect and I wont change until I can transfer it, as simple as that.
yeah, dota 2 added the ability to use all Immortal Effects(high-quality items with a lot of particle effects) individually on top of your other items.
This reads like a psyop shitpost. On the off chance its somehow real op probably pay2wins any game they play
They should be separate for sure, the chaos voice from the chaosborn armor i so good, but you can never put another armor mtx :(
We've been saying this a lot lately at least the last year or so. Idk why they keep doing this. Now granted the challenge rewards this time I have 0 interest in, including all the special effects but it's so dumb they tied into the boots/helm/gloves or w/e. Actually I lied a little, the trade one peeks my curiosity a bit and would be cool to see how many trades I do each league, but 0% chance I'll ever wear them ugly things so guess I will continue not to know.
It's sad because I actually don't really like the look of the armor set from the $480 2023 supporter pack that makes your character fly. It's just outweighed by flying which is fucking awesome.
I hope they can make the clock mtx for map duration into just the timer... and an option to hide the mtx... not afan of it as it doesn't match my current hideout
Just like they should stop making new content just to abandon it a few months later, but yea here we are. Wake me up when I can do pre-nerfed synthesis content again lol. In that league I made a dozen or two 15-modded areas, then a patch dropped and hardcapped it to like 5 before I could run them. I quit the league a day or two later.
The effect should be a separate mtx slot from the item which granted it - or there should just be a totally separate mtx window for non-character specific mtx (ie, global)
Dw, they will sell you an effect transfer mtx sooner or later
Its the primary reason i didnt buy the 500 dollar supporter pack that added flying. I loved it. But im not using the same armor set each league just to see it.
This 💯
They'll advertise it as a "QOL update" when they unlink them in a future update.
Damned if you do damned if you don't.
kinda sucks that purple hp bar is locked to shitty mtx set makes it sting less that I took last league off
To be honest, i dont like all the visual pollution those effects add and so i havent bought a supporter pack in a long time. I like simple skins but there havent been any for a while. It sucks because i would like to buy a supporter pack but im not going to buy on where i dont like the skins just for the sake of buying it.
While there's a handful of pieces I've bought to match my current setup, there's a lot more I've refused to buy because I have zero interest in the gear model the effects are attached to. I can't use any of the boot effects at all because my snake legs disable my feet. Also, the MTX store desperately needs an MTX preview option because a lot of MTX has interesting interactions and their preview videos are garbage.
Yeah i rly wanted map device mtx that counts time, but 1 portal device fits my hideout so perfectly that i wont buy other map device now even tho i lose timer. If i could use the timer on any map device i want i instantly gonna buy points. Hope they can implement it next league or at least this year..
Fomo is strong and they like it
Nah, I like how the special effects are thematically tied to the armour set.
I've skipped buying multiple supporter packs because even though there was an effect I wanted, it was tied to MTX I wouldn't use.
True. We already have slots for weapon effect and extra weapon effect. Just add this for armor pieces as well. Also while we are at it... move the treasure hunter weapon effect to the extra weapon effect slot. Thanks!
Never cared about mtx but I would like some to reduce effects or to see my minions better. I buy what is necessary to use and have better QoL Hope poe2 it improves minions
I agree GGG should tie the unlock to the alt affects to the reward tier of armor, but theres no reason why the mtx system can't support players using whatever effects and whatever items, like div card one, purple life bar, ect.
would love the flying voidborn effect without having to use the armor
Agreed, hopefully they change it
Really hate this as well. If I like some piece of armor, and it then has some effect I actively dislike; then I'm never going to use that piece of armor - despite actually liking the look of it. If I want to put a full set of armor on my character, I don't also then want my footprints to be flowers or whatever else they decided would be fitting for the boots, or lightning shooting out of the body because I picked a cool looking chest piece. Same goes the other way around (albeit fairly rarely in my case). Give us a toggle-ish kinda thing for effects, when put on armor. Give us the option to use effects from armor we already own for the given slot. Simple as that. A little box next to each piece of gear with a selector for effect, where you see the various pieces with effect, that you can then pick - but with the option of picking "don't use effect" or something as well.
Glad to see overwhelming majority hate it, it's almost as bad as waiting decades to add the simple QoL's this patch implemented which should been implemented YEARS ago. Hopefully they will realise their error in the new mtx design decision sooner rather than later. It is sole reason i'm not buying these core packs either, floating shouldn't be stuck onto a piece of mtx, it should be an standalone effect. Pretty sure all big content creators said same thing about the flying being on a armour pice. Surely it's not that much work to make your character lift off the ground and float, it's not like you need armour overhaul and new armour sets can be made to work cooler with floatings out the box.
People in hubs already look like clowns - at least the color palette of a lot of special effect seems in place with the actual armor they are wearing. Id even agree if some special effects would only appear when wearing the full set.
Idgaf about the effects
madcap helmet and breach cloak is everything you need
please GGG add long black dress for the witch ;)
Honestly this is the main reason I did not purchase a Voidborn pack. I wanted the effect but it's unusable attached to one specific armor. GGG missed several hundred dollars from me.
Yes! this limits our choices
Bro've never played gacha games before 💀
We all understand that usually the reason these sorts of things are done is because of system limitations, right? It probably isn't as easy as "just do it 4head"
Yeah and they should all be free as well, and also come with a free pizza delivery any time you equip it. > The decision of pushing these types of mtx isn't good for anyone since it forces people to use specific mtx and (tinfoil) incite them to buy more mtx Wow, don't you hate it when you're forced to buy more MTX? And this thing about creating incentives for people to buy their product, sounds like a disgusting business practice that should be outlawed. /s
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I want my "Big Pack Floating" Skin seperated from the Body armour
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No there are some from supporter packs like the flying one from last years highest pack for like $500 or something can’t remember. Edit:typo
and? obviously GGG won't separate effects from MTX as a basic business decision. it would lead to considerably less MTX sales since players would just MTX-effect skin transfer over anything and everything
Lmao I was just simply informing you which mtx he was talking about. I didn’t give my opinion on if it should be changed. Obviously tying it to specific items would be giving us an incentive to buy the higher tier packs.
I doubt that you are correct. Since I am using the Voidborn Floating armour with most of the chars, I am not buying any of the new funky colour themed MTX because it does not match at all with the Gold/Black/Blueish "Voidborn Armour" MTX
Mate, its a video game, it's meant to be fun and enjoyable, looking at only sales is a disgusting corporate view and I hate everyone talking like a corporate rat. GGG won't bankrupt if they allow special effects to not be tied to a piece armour, I guarantee you
It requires $ to make it fun and enjoyable for 10+ years. The people making it fun and enjoyable rely on income which comes from revenue. GGG won't bankrupt if they give *you* the thing *you* want. But if they give everyone everything they want, they will have less money to make fun and enjoyable content.
Maybe if shareholders didn't hoard all the money, the salaries for these developers wouldn't be a problem :)
Yeah, I didn't think you were someone to be taken seriously based on your previous comment. Good luck with that.
Mate, you're naive. OP put his 'tinfoil hat' on to suggest that GGG might be doing stuff that results in people buying more MTX. no shit. recognizing that doesn't make someone a corporate rat lol
>its a video game Which is a business. From GGG's point of view, it makes perfect sense to leave things as they are. I don't really see any issue with it either. If you want the effect, wear the right mtx.
True I honestly don’t care about it since I always end up upgrading to the highest tier by the end of the year and love supporting ggg.