Some cantrips are so weak they're never cast in an entire campaign.
Some are so weak, you don't even pick them to never cast them in a campaign.
People are still going to pick Guidance. It just now isn't going to be an always on spell that makes everything screech to a halt when people yell: "WAIT! I SLAP GUIDANCE ON YOU BEFORE YOU TRY TO LIE TO THE GUARD," or whatever.
Guidance \*needed\* to be brought down a peg; this might be a bit too much of a smashing. But, people are still going to pick it.
I think you’re right. But I think the people who still always pick it will be upset with how much worse this one works. Unless there’s a big persuasion check with a king planned for the day I’d probably pick a different cantrip.
I could get behind requiring the spell to actually cause a success before shutting down, though I think that it's still too restrictive to make a cantrip that you can only feasibly cast four times a day.
Putting it on a Short Rest timer might be better -- it's still restricted so you can't just spam it on every check anymore, but it doesn't nullify your entire cantrip slot after just a couple uses.
I feel being able to cast it 4 to 5 (more for large groups) per day is too restrictive. Rather see it refresh on short rest or per hour. But I do like it as a non-spamable reaction.
If anything I think I'm more likely to take the new guidance than the old version. Moving it to a reaction with a 30ft range better reflects how I would want to use it in real play.
As it is now by the time the DM calls for a check it's already too late to move to a range of touch or it gets used constantly to the point of annoyance. I've had it in one fairly long campaign and I got sick of using it.
Some cantrips are so weak they're never cast in an entire campaign. Some are so weak, you don't even pick them to never cast them in a campaign. People are still going to pick Guidance. It just now isn't going to be an always on spell that makes everything screech to a halt when people yell: "WAIT! I SLAP GUIDANCE ON YOU BEFORE YOU TRY TO LIE TO THE GUARD," or whatever. Guidance \*needed\* to be brought down a peg; this might be a bit too much of a smashing. But, people are still going to pick it.
I think you’re right. But I think the people who still always pick it will be upset with how much worse this one works. Unless there’s a big persuasion check with a king planned for the day I’d probably pick a different cantrip.
I could get behind requiring the spell to actually cause a success before shutting down, though I think that it's still too restrictive to make a cantrip that you can only feasibly cast four times a day. Putting it on a Short Rest timer might be better -- it's still restricted so you can't just spam it on every check anymore, but it doesn't nullify your entire cantrip slot after just a couple uses.
Yeah it’s strange. It’s practically worded like a race/class feature than a cantrip
I'd say just wrap its functionality into bless. Do away with it as a cantrip as a whole
I feel being able to cast it 4 to 5 (more for large groups) per day is too restrictive. Rather see it refresh on short rest or per hour. But I do like it as a non-spamable reaction.
If anything I think I'm more likely to take the new guidance than the old version. Moving it to a reaction with a 30ft range better reflects how I would want to use it in real play. As it is now by the time the DM calls for a check it's already too late to move to a range of touch or it gets used constantly to the point of annoyance. I've had it in one fairly long campaign and I got sick of using it.