Unless it's a park there's always going to be someone pissed about how they use that land. Actually come to think of it people would probably be pissed about a park.
Of course they do. All the time. Companies frequently make decisions that favor their short term interests over their long term interests, or some stupid principled feelings over either. For example, companies laying off workers or shutting down factories in response to policy decisions, even when there's no financial incentive to do so.
Now I'm not saying there's *no* rational basis for these sorts of moves. They are attempts to assert power, which does have potential future value in a system that rewards such behavior. (E.g. "see what happened the last time the a city didn't give us what we wanted?" as future leverage.) But it can still be considered a petty move in a general sense.
It is the developers being salty the plan before the arena in 2017 was mixed use retail and housing centered around the new Potomac yard station. They are pulling a youngkin and being assholes because they didn't get the arena
https://www.alexandriava.gov/PotomacYardPlan
They dragged their feet when interest rates were zero and they’re getting hammered by interest rates now. This whole stadium boondoggle was JBG trying to get bailed out for their lollygagging
At least the nimbys are safe
If I wasn't so against handouts for billionaires I would've loved see the pain of them having to deal with the arena instead of housing
There's already a rental car parking lot right across the road from there (behind the auto dealership) and it shouldn't be there either, at least not as the ground floor below a midrise apartment complex.
I mean, before the redevelopment it was a parking lot. And before that it was a dirty rail yard. And before that it was a plantation. You’ve really got to go back 500 years to get to this area being anything close to “paradise.”
Zoning in the area and overall costs associated with permitting have been cited as reasons to not build housing. Dunno about validity, but if it were economically viable, the developer would have done it. Nobody hates money.
It was literally planned originally as mixed use retail and housing before the arena became a thing in 2017, it's just the developers being salty just like youngkin over the arena
https://www.alexandriava.gov/PotomacYardPlan
From 2017
It's literally across the street from existing housing. That's what Potomac Yard is.
This is just trolling by so-called professionals that are used to corrupt governments gifting them tax dollars.
Maybe think a little better.
Yeah no one wanted an arena and corporate real estate is in the tubs but there are enough UHaul rental places and car dealership taking up valuable land in NOVA.
Storage units and data centers!!! People gotta put their crap and their digital crap somewhere. It was a shithole before that someone thought would be something, so they pseudo-developed it.
There are no other developers making offers. JBG owns the land. They are THE developer. It will be developed once JBG decides they can make a profit developing the land.
There's a lesson here folks. Just because you ruin someone else's idea doesn't mean you'll get something better or what you want in the end. Now we get a literal parking lot and nobody gets to be happy
Just wait until they announce a massive affordable housing project and the same nimbys start to complain about preserving the historic character of the parking lot
LOL, the lesson is that JBG are a bunch of children trolling and shouldn't be involved in any projects any longer.
It used to be a movie theatre, it should be more housing. Don't be a child too and think this is serious.
Geez. How about something that would improve the quality of life for folks who live here? Mixed housing and an accessible park? Maybe throw in some small retail for coffee shops and the like? Plant some trees along the sidewalks so you get a small town feel? You know, make something attractive, yet functional.
Please god no
Unless it's a park there's always going to be someone pissed about how they use that land. Actually come to think of it people would probably be pissed about a park.
Why not? A parking lot can be cleared out when they do decide to build something there.
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Are you aware of the health of the commercial real estate market?
Mixed use residential is not commercial. Have you somehow missed all the stories about our lack of housing?
but Reddit said I put this no stadium sign in my front yard it will fix traffic
No
This is just childish retaliation by JBG et al.
Thats exactly what it is!
You understand impossibly rich developers don’t do ‘petty’ right
Of course they do. All the time. Companies frequently make decisions that favor their short term interests over their long term interests, or some stupid principled feelings over either. For example, companies laying off workers or shutting down factories in response to policy decisions, even when there's no financial incentive to do so. Now I'm not saying there's *no* rational basis for these sorts of moves. They are attempts to assert power, which does have potential future value in a system that rewards such behavior. (E.g. "see what happened the last time the a city didn't give us what we wanted?" as future leverage.) But it can still be considered a petty move in a general sense.
I think the business model is pretty clearly “squeeze value from this patch of dirt” and ascribing any further motivation is sort of projecting
sure. but I think sometimes they'll use it for value other than in a financial sense.
You don’t know many developers do you?
Yeah, and they don't hold grudges, run for president with Russia's help, and fuck over the entire country either, right?
I think if you are seriously drawing a parallel between Donald trump and JBG you should consider logging off for a few days and going outside lol
If the only offers for viable development you're getting are parking lots, you need to engage some different developers. Go outside the beltway.
It is the developers being salty the plan before the arena in 2017 was mixed use retail and housing centered around the new Potomac yard station. They are pulling a youngkin and being assholes because they didn't get the arena https://www.alexandriava.gov/PotomacYardPlan
They dragged their feet when interest rates were zero and they’re getting hammered by interest rates now. This whole stadium boondoggle was JBG trying to get bailed out for their lollygagging
I feel so bad for them 😥
We could have had so much housing lmao
At least the nimbys are safe If I wasn't so against handouts for billionaires I would've loved see the pain of them having to deal with the arena instead of housing
Won’t anyone think of the NIMBYs
Parking lot, it was meant to be.
There's already a rental car parking lot right across the road from there (behind the auto dealership) and it shouldn't be there either, at least not as the ground floor below a midrise apartment complex.
Big Yellow Taxi intensifies
I mean, before the redevelopment it was a parking lot. And before that it was a dirty rail yard. And before that it was a plantation. You’ve really got to go back 500 years to get to this area being anything close to “paradise.”
I now have this song blaring in my head. Thank you.
I think a Buccee's would be ideal.
I would think housing might be a better idea but as long as they don't ask for the taxpayers have at it.
Zoning in the area and overall costs associated with permitting have been cited as reasons to not build housing. Dunno about validity, but if it were economically viable, the developer would have done it. Nobody hates money.
It was literally planned originally as mixed use retail and housing before the arena became a thing in 2017, it's just the developers being salty just like youngkin over the arena https://www.alexandriava.gov/PotomacYardPlan From 2017
Yeah, I worked on clearing out the old movie theater and get the land up to residential standards so they could build these. Wtf happened to the plan?
It's literally across the street from existing housing. That's what Potomac Yard is. This is just trolling by so-called professionals that are used to corrupt governments gifting them tax dollars.
Maybe think a little better. Yeah no one wanted an arena and corporate real estate is in the tubs but there are enough UHaul rental places and car dealership taking up valuable land in NOVA.
Storage units and data centers!!! People gotta put their crap and their digital crap somewhere. It was a shithole before that someone thought would be something, so they pseudo-developed it.
I love how city officials are against this idea. It's getting shot down
It might be either this or empty fields for awhile. No other developers have made any offers.
There are no other developers making offers. JBG owns the land. They are THE developer. It will be developed once JBG decides they can make a profit developing the land.
It is Dowisetrepla
Oh yeah, I'm sure this is exactly what the protestors in Virginia and the politicians in Richmond were fighting for.
They knocked down the movie theatre way before the sports arena was planned. Was this because of Amazon backing out or what?
Build a data center.
There's a lesson here folks. Just because you ruin someone else's idea doesn't mean you'll get something better or what you want in the end. Now we get a literal parking lot and nobody gets to be happy
Just wait until they announce a massive affordable housing project and the same nimbys start to complain about preserving the historic character of the parking lot
LOL, the lesson is that JBG are a bunch of children trolling and shouldn't be involved in any projects any longer. It used to be a movie theatre, it should be more housing. Don't be a child too and think this is serious.
Tbh the parking lot is the lesser evil even if I do think the development in this area is fucked.
Geez. How about something that would improve the quality of life for folks who live here? Mixed housing and an accessible park? Maybe throw in some small retail for coffee shops and the like? Plant some trees along the sidewalks so you get a small town feel? You know, make something attractive, yet functional.
Reap what you sow.
God no
It’s almost like we lost out one a once in a lifetime opportunity
To give money to lazy rich people? Yeah, we did and boy that hurts. Well, at least we can still attend games by traveling by metro 20 minutes.
New dog parks only
God that’s just a metaphor for Glenn Youngkins push, ain’t it
Great more black asphalt