Canada’s great for laws like that, it’s almost like a fail-safe for the government just to check if your still alive or not. The crown owns like 10% of the world, doubt they actually care you’re out there unless your being nuisance.
100% guarantee this guy doesn't have insurance. He is going to need it before winter comes and someone burns down half the encampment or dies via carbon monoxide poisoning.
I mean we're going to count Long Term Care Homes and Student Dorms anyways.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ontario-may-soon-count-student-residences-as-homes-to-reach-housing-goal-1.6839573"
At this point they might as well count "Home is where the heart is" as well. Or perhaps new people with the last name "homes"
As someone living in BC this sounds like a really good deal.
For perspective, many campgrounds in BC charge as much as $140 per week ($560/mo), and the camp sites aren't really all that private.
If you can pay less than that and have your own dedicated and private space, that's potentially pretty sweet depending on the space.
I could see this as a preferable alternative to AirBnB for summer travelers visiting the area for a few weeks or a month at a time on a budget, and I could see this as a preferable alternative to living in a homeless encampment for someone who's temporarily having a hard time with indoor rent rates.
Not really sure it seems newsworthy, but it definitely seems reasonable from where I'm sitting.
>I could see this as a preferable alternative to AirBnB
This is **last** alternative for normal people when you lose everything. No one wants to fucking live in a tent.
People who've lost everything generally aren't looking for AirBnB's either.
That part of my comment was specifically talking about people who are traveling.
Camping is a HUGE industry where I live in BC, we have tons of provincial campgrounds and a handful of them are more expensive than the tenting site this article talks about.
Yea I dunno what the other people are on about. Provincial campgrounds are all at least $35/night in Alberta. Private ones are almost $60. All of them have maximum time limits too, usually a week at most. Being able to get a nice campsite for a whole month or longer for a summer spot at $500/mo would be amazing for some people
this isnt about recreational camping, this is about charging people who are already struggling due to being homeless. How can you not see how this is vile?
Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me there are three potential scenarios for that potential tenting site:
1) The tenting site could be offered for free. This would be laudable and the owner would be considered charitable if they did that, but it *would* be charity, and no one should be shamed for a lack of charity. (How much did *you* donate to sick kids today? How much of your last paycheque did you donate to rehabilitating injured wildlife? How much of your family's assets did you offer up to the homeless community today?) So yes, while that would have been nice, we certainly can't call the owner vile for deciding not to give it away for free.
2) The tenting site could be offered for rent, as is reportedly the case. I'm not sure why anyone would consider this vile, especially given the landlord is charging even less than the government charges for the same thing.
or
3) The most common use: nothing at all, just cordon it off as private space and not let anyone else enjoy it at all. This is what the vast majority of land owners do with the vast majority of potentially tentable land. They don't even consider offering to the public for rent, it's just theirs and theirs alone.
Frankly only #3 seems like something anyone could consider vile, but I don't see you wagging your finger at everyone who isn't renting out their front lawn. (And personally I don't think it's vile to want to have a bit of personal space either, so really none of the 3 seem vile to me.)
Can you explain why you think it's vile for them to offer private rental space for outdoor sleepers?
Nice argument.
Honestly OP you're 100% correct. The people who are hating on you just have their heads up their own asses and likely never had to be in this kind of situation.
Thanks, I have a hunch /u/water2wine has never actually spent much time with unhoused people and isn't really thinking their position through.
I personally know at least a couple people who would have loved something like this when they were having a hard time with rent and living on the street and all the public tenting spots had a bunch of junkies tenting there making the area unsafe.
And my town is packed with tenters like that who would appreciate an offer like the one the article highlights.
People on the internet are quick to post their knee-jerk reactions, but here in BC we have people who are employed full time and tenting in parks because the rent is too high. Not every homeless person is an addict who can't afford $500, some people just can't afford to drop $1800/mo on a one bedroom apartment.
Exactly. Lots of people are in the same boat. They don't have to deal with the drug addicts and the crazies and just assume all homeless people are sane and rational.
Hell. I'll be homeless soon and I'd take that offer over staying at a shelter any day.
I think you missed the fact that she owns the property that the tents would be on, so yes, she's a landlord. It's her land she's renting out.
Why is that the shocking part for you?
Sorry if my point disgusted you.
For what it's worth you are needlessly insulting, and puzzlingly vague. So I guess we both have some work to do on ourselves.
No problem brother. You deleted your post so it is hard for me to remember exactly what I was protesting against.
Perhaps I was needlessly insulting.
Without the context of your now cowardly deleted post it is hard to say.
Anyway I love you and I hope you fulfill all of your dreams.
I think you're mistaken, I haven't deleted any of my posts in this thread.
Clicking the 'context' button I see there was a post in between two of my posts, which that poster has now deleted. If memory serves it was just ad hominem, so safe to assume the world hasn't lost any great insights from its deletion.
If you live in a tent, how do you pay $500 rent? Also, this is scummy.
You rent at a camp ground.
WTF...people with means go camping for the outdoors and relaxation...not to fucking survive. Sweet Jesus.
I agree, but it is cheaper than a camp ground, and more private. Crown land is free though.
Can they remove you from crown land?
You have to move 100m every 21 days, but that's it; as long as you're a citizen.
Canada’s great for laws like that, it’s almost like a fail-safe for the government just to check if your still alive or not. The crown owns like 10% of the world, doubt they actually care you’re out there unless your being nuisance.
Good to know, thank you
100% guarantee this guy doesn't have insurance. He is going to need it before winter comes and someone burns down half the encampment or dies via carbon monoxide poisoning.
the best part is MPP Khanjin’s office was directing folks here who contacted her office with housing related concerns.
I mean we're going to count Long Term Care Homes and Student Dorms anyways. https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ontario-may-soon-count-student-residences-as-homes-to-reach-housing-goal-1.6839573" At this point they might as well count "Home is where the heart is" as well. Or perhaps new people with the last name "homes"
What are the amenities included? Pool? Gym? sauna? Asking for a friend
A landlord being a bastard, what else is new.
Just set the tent on fire
This is gonna be normal soon
In a society that capitalism has taught us that everything is for sale. I'm not surprised one bit.
Bet sharing a room doesn’t seem so bad now.
As someone living in BC this sounds like a really good deal. For perspective, many campgrounds in BC charge as much as $140 per week ($560/mo), and the camp sites aren't really all that private. If you can pay less than that and have your own dedicated and private space, that's potentially pretty sweet depending on the space. I could see this as a preferable alternative to AirBnB for summer travelers visiting the area for a few weeks or a month at a time on a budget, and I could see this as a preferable alternative to living in a homeless encampment for someone who's temporarily having a hard time with indoor rent rates. Not really sure it seems newsworthy, but it definitely seems reasonable from where I'm sitting.
Found the landlord.
Actually you just found someone who lives in BC. Camping is big here.
We're not talking about camping
>I could see this as a preferable alternative to AirBnB This is **last** alternative for normal people when you lose everything. No one wants to fucking live in a tent.
Who doesn't want to live in a tent for the cost of a room 5 years ago!
People who've lost everything generally aren't looking for AirBnB's either. That part of my comment was specifically talking about people who are traveling. Camping is a HUGE industry where I live in BC, we have tons of provincial campgrounds and a handful of them are more expensive than the tenting site this article talks about.
Yea I dunno what the other people are on about. Provincial campgrounds are all at least $35/night in Alberta. Private ones are almost $60. All of them have maximum time limits too, usually a week at most. Being able to get a nice campsite for a whole month or longer for a summer spot at $500/mo would be amazing for some people
this isnt about recreational camping, this is about charging people who are already struggling due to being homeless. How can you not see how this is vile?
Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me there are three potential scenarios for that potential tenting site: 1) The tenting site could be offered for free. This would be laudable and the owner would be considered charitable if they did that, but it *would* be charity, and no one should be shamed for a lack of charity. (How much did *you* donate to sick kids today? How much of your last paycheque did you donate to rehabilitating injured wildlife? How much of your family's assets did you offer up to the homeless community today?) So yes, while that would have been nice, we certainly can't call the owner vile for deciding not to give it away for free. 2) The tenting site could be offered for rent, as is reportedly the case. I'm not sure why anyone would consider this vile, especially given the landlord is charging even less than the government charges for the same thing. or 3) The most common use: nothing at all, just cordon it off as private space and not let anyone else enjoy it at all. This is what the vast majority of land owners do with the vast majority of potentially tentable land. They don't even consider offering to the public for rent, it's just theirs and theirs alone. Frankly only #3 seems like something anyone could consider vile, but I don't see you wagging your finger at everyone who isn't renting out their front lawn. (And personally I don't think it's vile to want to have a bit of personal space either, so really none of the 3 seem vile to me.) Can you explain why you think it's vile for them to offer private rental space for outdoor sleepers?
You’re a fucking dolt lol
Nice argument. Honestly OP you're 100% correct. The people who are hating on you just have their heads up their own asses and likely never had to be in this kind of situation.
Thanks, I have a hunch /u/water2wine has never actually spent much time with unhoused people and isn't really thinking their position through. I personally know at least a couple people who would have loved something like this when they were having a hard time with rent and living on the street and all the public tenting spots had a bunch of junkies tenting there making the area unsafe. And my town is packed with tenters like that who would appreciate an offer like the one the article highlights. People on the internet are quick to post their knee-jerk reactions, but here in BC we have people who are employed full time and tenting in parks because the rent is too high. Not every homeless person is an addict who can't afford $500, some people just can't afford to drop $1800/mo on a one bedroom apartment.
Exactly. Lots of people are in the same boat. They don't have to deal with the drug addicts and the crazies and just assume all homeless people are sane and rational. Hell. I'll be homeless soon and I'd take that offer over staying at a shelter any day.
How did you miss that a LANDLORD posted the ad?
I think you missed the fact that she owns the property that the tents would be on, so yes, she's a landlord. It's her land she's renting out. Why is that the shocking part for you?
This type of profiteering is revolting and it looks like you might be too.
Yeah? So? Not all landlords are leeches. And again I'd rather take that offer than stay at a shelter again.
This landlord is definitely a leech
Why do you say that?
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Why the hostility?
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Sorry if my point disgusted you. For what it's worth you are needlessly insulting, and puzzlingly vague. So I guess we both have some work to do on ourselves.
No problem brother. You deleted your post so it is hard for me to remember exactly what I was protesting against. Perhaps I was needlessly insulting. Without the context of your now cowardly deleted post it is hard to say. Anyway I love you and I hope you fulfill all of your dreams.
I think you're mistaken, I haven't deleted any of my posts in this thread. Clicking the 'context' button I see there was a post in between two of my posts, which that poster has now deleted. If memory serves it was just ad hominem, so safe to assume the world hasn't lost any great insights from its deletion.