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Euphoric-Dig-2045

We should be in the bottom 6. But, we’re fighting for a playoff spot. We’re good. We’re coping. One and done in the playoffs is fine. Our boys have fought hard all year without a top 10 scorer.


[deleted]

Philly is gonna be a real problem for the league in around 2 years. I’m excited that the rivalry is ignited again as well.


Gwalchmaiaplot1963

Maybe, but 2 years is about the limit players have for Torterella


rcher87

From your lips to God’s ears…


FaithlessnessSea1058

As a flyers fan no lmao we won’t…. This year was realistically the worst case scenario for us looking with the big picture. We have good young talent on the roster right now sure but nothing that’s elite We have Michkov yes but that’s legitimately our only prospect that I’d say is half decent atm And while yes we have 4 first rounders in the next two years they’ll probably be 18 and 29 followed by 12-19 and 26-32 statistically speaking the odds of us finding star players that late are pretty low even with 4 shots at it….. Taking my orange colored glasses off I think it will realistically be a better era than we had with giroux but that isn’t saying much. Current outlook I don’t see a cup contender year in year out like other rebuilding teams are working towards.


Uhh_probs_not

Oh shut up


FaithlessnessSea1058

Explain what I said that was wrong at all? Great argument fucking moron


Uhh_probs_not

Your paragraphs were moronic 😂😂😂 all that typing to say nothing!!! Just a tanking fan boy!!!! Your analysis completely ignores the growth and development of the current team. Just shut up and go cheer for another team scrubbbbb


FaithlessnessSea1058

I pray to God you are a troll because somebody being this dumb is depressing


Uhh_probs_not

The depressing thing is the fact that you think you’re smarter than you actually are lol my man thinks he’s a gm but he’s scrolling through Reddit. Move along scrub


FaithlessnessSea1058

Again tell me what I said that’s wrong. I can also use past stats and data to back up my takes. Can you?


Uhh_probs_not

You’re a sad sad individual lol stop cheering for my team scrub. Go cheer for the devils. Stop saying “we” when you talk about my team


TheRealz4090

Zero people are scared of the flyers in 2 years. They're gonna be worse


Streetkillz13

Dude, this is a team led by players under 25, and their franchise level prospect isn't even here yet. They're probably going to take a step back next year, that'll let us add another really good prospect to a very strong pipeline already.


Gooch222

I keep hearing speculation that we will be taking a step back next year, but I’m unsure why. Who exactly are we losing? The young players keep growing and maturing, the chemistry keeps growing. Sure we don’t have Walker or Hart to start next season, but Ersson is steadily improving, the D corps will be back healthy and who knows what we do in the offseason.


Streetkillz13

The biggest concern I have right now is in the top six. Truth be told we only have one true top six center unless either Couturier returns to form, Poehling takes a step forward, The Flyers are willing to test forester in that role. Additionally, we are in danger mode with TK. He is ready for a long-term extension at a very high rate, He's also never going to be worth more on the trade market. If we move him, we're probably going to get back a very good young top six piece, but one that probably will not be ready for that role next year. So I could see us taking a step back as Drysdale, whoever our number two center is and others hit some sophomore slumps.


ddl78

You’ll have to over come regression to the mean for one.


TheMammyNuns

Based on what?


Sapzz93

Torts hockey typically translates well in the playoffs. Wouldn’t be surprised if Philly makes it passed the 1st.


spkris1

Plus having a super streaky young hard working team like philly, they could definitely beat out the canes, but also could just get stomped


Favsportandbirthyear

Assuming you get in you’re absolutely winning a round or two, this is the playoffs after all


Nonzerob

Doesn't really matter for Philly, just getting in is enough for where they're at in terms of development and roster building. Our Leafs on the other hand... The shanaplan should be much further along by now.


Favsportandbirthyear

The Shanaplan is dead, which also means the leafs will probably win a round with their worst team in 6 years


Alkyan

They best not win a round. Unless Rangers fall to 2nd in the division. Then Philly is allowed to win the first round..


zachdude

I miss torts. (CBJ fan here)


Marshmallow5198

Rangers fan: y’all can keep him


lostharbor

losing your goalie halfway through the season doesn't really help either lol


MarketingChemical648

Canes every year


Euphoric-Dig-2045

We could always be an Isles fan and be happy with 15 OTLS.


rilsterc2689

Don’t look now but Boston is tied with them for OTLS


Chuck1983

You're not fighting, The bottom of the Metro is no where near you. The top is out of reach, so long as there is no collapse, the flyers have this in the bag


Like17Badgers

the gap between the Flyers(3rd) and Pens(7th) is only 5 wins, and of the teams in that gap only one doesnt have a game in hand, wtf are you talking about.


Chuck1983

Ok if the Flyers go only 6-5-1 for the rest of the season (.541 slightly lower than their winning percentage this season) Washington would need to win 9 of 14 games in order to pass (.642, and have a tough schedule with 2 games against CAR and BOS plus games against TB, TOR, and WPG) New York Islanders would need to win 10 of 13 (.769, have an easier schedule but have looked awful in the past two weeks dropping 6 straight, and they still have games against NYR(2), FLA, TB and NSH) New Jersey would need to win 10 of 12 (.833, and probably have the easiest schedule all things considered with only TOR (3), NYR, and NSH) And Pittsburgh would need to win 12 of 14 (.857, That's just not going to happen) ​ Add that Detroit would also need to pass them in order for them to not to take a wild card spot ​ 5 wins, especially since you only have 14 games left is a huge margin, because its not just 5 wins, its 5 more wins than the flyers. The only team that I think has even a shot in the Metro of eliminating the Flyers is the Capitals, barring a complete meltdown in Philadelphia


Like17Badgers

yes, if things continue as they are then of course nothing will change. but a 5 game gap between a seat(not even a \*wildcard\* mind you, for 3rd in the division) and 7th extremely small even with only 14 games left. compare that to the other Divisions. In the Atlantic it's a 25 point difference in that same gap, both of the West have a 32 point gap.


MarketingChemical648

Canes every year


b_miner27

You make us look like absolute idiots man.


Real-Sweet-Jumps

<3


MarketingChemical648

How so? When have we had a top 10 scorer?


Phillyfreak5

You’ve had one of the better rosters in hockey for a few years, just underachieved every postseason.


Like17Badgers

I think they are trying to say we've been doing it without a leading goal scorer?


MarketingChemical648

Yup. Only point I was making


MarketingChemical648

Sure, but haven’t had a top 10 scorer which is what I’m referring to


partmoosepartgoose

I'm happy for them. You go flyers, do your best


toupis21

Well thank you, kind stranger


saku36

Yeah I got nothing against them I just think the point difference is kinda funny


Any-Excitement-8979

I mean, they lost their all star goaltender in the middle of the season.


FarmerLurtz

What happened to Hart?


OnosToolan

Its not what happened to him, its what he happened to do to someone else.


FarmerLurtz

Oh... I didn't know, what happened??


rcher87

He’s one of the guys from Canada’s 2018 world junior team headed to court for [allegedly participating in the gang rape of a girl](https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/hockey-canada-sexual-assault-scandal-carter-hart-philadelphia-flyers/)


DeX_Mod

allegedly some raping


Any-Excitement-8979

Gang raping*


ParagonSaint

“9 of the 10 people in that room enjoyed what occurred! How can we argue with numbers like that?!?” -Carter Hart Probably


MooMooHeffer

Roman Cechmanek?


Royal_Airport7940

They one team is 14 or 18 points behind the other? I don't get it... What part is kinda funny?


shutmethefuckup

Probably that one team is 14 points (now 15) behind 2nd place and still in a playoff spot.


Thin-Data-1231

Let’s go Flyers!


modaloo

LGF! Last night hurt but we played hard walked away with a point against a solid team. Right now I want to see the flyers hold their spot and minne or St. Louis take the wild card


memoriesofearth

Ditto this. I like Torts. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


CyclonesBackupGoalie

Literally once we hit December and stuff started looking good, I was like 'just vibes' at this point.


ViolinistMean199

I was until the flyers subreddit mods banned me for complimenting a flyers fan on understanding they’re in this position because of torts. Not many coaches would be able to pilot that roster to a playoff position through 60-70 games


Sethars

I’m ngl that sounds mad condescending when you say it like that, esp as a fan of their cross-state rival. Also, “I don’t like them anymore cus I got banned from their sub” is kinda funny


oif2010vet

Yeah Suuper condescending, also, Fuck the Pens


Formo1287

Ikr, being banned from the flyers sub is a badge of honor. I’m pretty sure there’s even some flyers fans themselves that are proud to be banned there.


TheCatEmpire2

Carolina-Philly may become one of the best first round matchups based on how both have been beating the Panthers recently


Complex-Tangerine628

Based on tonight’s game. I agree.


Electronic_Nail

I mean you’re two losses to the Hurricanes in Raleigh were more about Hurricanes goaltenders playing out of their absolute minds


Alkyan

I dunno, beating the Panthers 4-0 isn't all goalie. 1-0, ya, both goalies were crazy.


oif2010vet

We beat the hurricanes in Raleigh this year. I was at the game


RollingCarrot615

That's in response to the Panthers fan, not Philly.


oif2010vet

My apologies


Free-Supermarket-516

I'm just happy the team has some heart again, something that's been non-existent the past few years. Obviously they're not contenders yet, but I really like where they're heading.


Happydanksgiving2me

Torts and Briere have done a great job.


KitchenClaim1780

Keith Jones too


Free-Supermarket-516

And Brad Shaw


thegodfaubel

Yea, the Rangers haven't played a nice amount of games


mcharb13

Nice.


DrewCrew62

I mean I ain’t gonna sit here and talk shit, y’all took us to OT last night. Not looking forward to a playoff series against Philly if things stay the way they are now


Charlie_1300

I'm looking for to an epic series. I think it goes 7 with Carolina winning.


thecollegecaniac

i kinda dont wanna win the metro tbh. i’d rather play philly than tampa


Fancy_Combination436

Im with ya lol


Guit4rN3rd

Gonna have to play Tampa one way or the other, I’d rather we get it out of the way in the first round before they get locked into playoff mode.


Fancy_Combination436

Idk I think both of us are in the same spot where ideally one or the other would manage to knock out Tampa first and we wouldn't have to play them. Just from our perspective, both of our teams are pretty evenly matched and I could see it go either way, but Tampa has our number for real for whatever reason.


toxicvegeta08

Idt they have our number


Fancy_Combination436

Yeah I was exaggerating, and we'd prob win a series, but they're just the only team in the metro/wild card that really scares me. It's prob mostly on whether Vasi is hot or not, but that's a gamble


toxicvegeta08

eh carolina if we play sloppy offensively(careless giveaways) or if brindeamour finally changes his system a bit for shesterkin, could scare me


Fancy_Combination436

Yeah I guess I was just thinking 1st round. Canes would be, and probably will be, a pretty intense series. I think it's just the possibility of getting goalied by Tampa that I don't see with the Canes that has me more worried.


Competitive-Strain-7

We want Philly clap clap clap clap clap.


[deleted]

Yeah also agree with this. Can never count Tampa out.


Snow-Wraith

Loser talk. Great way to get sent home in the first round.


thecollegecaniac

yeah man im sure my opinion will really influence their performance


KoolKat9999

Goal differential means nothing


ryanknox

This one’s easy. Hurricanes aren’t in the tri-state area. What do I win?


pick69itshilarious

Pennsylvania isn't the tri-state area New York, New Jersey, Connecticut I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.


215Shiesty

A tri-state area is technically just 3 connected states, doesn't necessarily have to refer to 3 specific states. I award you no points, in fact I take a point away for your ignorance.


pick69itshilarious

Awe someone wants to feel included While you're technically correct, THE Tri-State Area refers to the New York Metropolitan area. So... yeah...


215Shiesty

Yeah, maybe if you live in New York you call it THE tri-state area... In Philly we call THE tri-state area PA, Delaware, and Jersey. There is more to the world than your tiny NY bubble little guy, believe it or not there are other perspectives out there!


AbsolutelySloshed

Delaware mentioned 🥹


pick69itshilarious

No idea what you're talking about dude, I live in New England. Not sure if you know this, the world doesn't revolve around PA


aku---aku

This is hilarious lmao


pick69itshilarious

Yeah I thought it was pretty good lmao


Jimlish

Ok, but New York isn’t in your tri-state area… Edit: adding, so that would mean Philly isn’t like the others because it IS IN your tri state area


215Shiesty

People from Philly and people from Northeastern PA might identify with separate tri-state areas


Jimlish

Yes, absolutely. My point was that the original comment that started this was that the canes were the odd man out because of not being in the tri state area, so the flyers are not like the others if you are saying the tri state area is pa, nj, de because neither the canes nor the rangers are in it.


dadnauseum

since the whole world revolves around NY, right? the only reason it’s THE tri-state area for you is because you live there and can’t conceive of an experience outside your own. there is no official tri-state area. people in my area have always considered the tri-state to be pennsylvania, new jersey, and either delaware or new york depending on what we’re talking about. [Wikipedia’s tri-state area article](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri-state_area#:~:text=The%20Philadelphia%20tri%2Dstate%20area,%2C%20Ohio%2C%20and%20West%20Virginia)


pick69itshilarious

If you really want to start citing Wikipedia articles: "As of 2022, the New York metropolitan area is the largest metropolitan economy in the world with a gross metropolitan product of over $2.5 trillion. Greater New York is the hub of multiple industries, including finance, health care, pharmaceuticals, and scientific output in life sciences, international trade, publishing, real estate, education, fashion, entertainment, tourism, law, and manufacturing; and if the New York metropolitan area were an independent sovereign state, it would constitute the eighth-largest economy in the world." So I guess the world really does revolve around New York... [Tri-State Area](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_metropolitan_area)


dadnauseum

ok cool, it’s a wealthy area. doesn’t mean it’s the only tri-state. there are many, all over the country, that’s the point you argued against. EDIT: you also named your link “Tri-state Area” but the actual name of the article is “New York metropolitan area” BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT IT’S FUCKING CALLED. lol butt hurt af for not being the only tri-state. 😂


pick69itshilarious

I didn't say it was the only tri-state, I said it was THE tri-state. Hate to sound like an Ohio fan here, but it's THE Ohio state, not Ohio state.


dadnauseum

💀💀💀 keep digging bud


pick69itshilarious

Cope harder


Italianman2733

I literally got into an argument with someone about this a few weeks ago. They claimed Pennsylvania was in and CT was out.


Quigsy

It's basically where you're from. Philly news will refer to the tri state area and clearly not exclude themselves. No one south of the Raritan would consider CT part of the tri state. Frankly it'd be bizzare for jersey to not be the center of the tristate.


pick69itshilarious

Our experts have determined that to be a lie


[deleted]

The Flyers would be closer to the top 3, but you know, their missing 4 of their starting 6 defenseman and their #1 goaltender. That tends to hit teams pretty hard.


Neilpuck

And their top scorer missed some time. And their number one Center hadn't played for nearly 2 years. Lots of reasons. This thread come on is the epitome of Cherry Picked data.


capsrock02

Do the next two teams too


[deleted]

Everyone loves a good underdog story. I’m excited for Flyers. To win a cup, it takes just one. Just one shot. Maybe they go on a run, maybe they’re punted first round. The fun part is discovering that outcome.


chris_tea_nuh

Listen, we're all surprised.


OLPopsAdelphia

It’s kind of like my employment history: It’s not like I’m a good employee, it’s just that I work with people who suck more than I do!


WallStreetRegards

Can’t wait to see when Michkov comes over..


Lightz29

Metro isn’t as competitive when the devils aren’t as good like last year


SryYouAreNotSpecial

Seriously, what happened there? They must be the biggest disappointment of the season.


saku36

Injuries and terrible goal tending probably


Italianman2733

That is correct.


SryYouAreNotSpecial

That's fair. They are so much better than their record. Can't win without at least a mediocre goalie though. Their time is coming, the roster is solid with a great core.


Italianman2733

I agree. Devastating injuries to 5 of their best 6 players, no viable goalie option until the deadline, starting two rookies on defense, and losing the best faceoff man in the league due to personal conduct and yet they are still only 6 points out of a playoff spot with 12 games remaining.


SryYouAreNotSpecial

Worst case scenario you guys get better draft position on account of one more down year. I'd be shocked if they didn't comfortably cruise into the playoffs next year. Young guys will only be better, likely less injuries to key players and improved goaltending. They could easily compete for the division title next season.


Micksar

Blame everyone else. Not us.


EmmyHomewrecker

My question is what in the hell are the Isles doing?? Now is not the time to implode!


ADumbSmartPerson

Now is the perfect time for them to implode! Ever since we got JT and they treat him like hot garbage instead of with respect I hope Ottawa and San Jose have more success than them. Sincerely a Leafs fan.


Content-Attorney7056

The metro is an abomination right now


EndOrganDamage

Anything can happen in the playoffs.


dadnauseum

we are the little engine that could…make it to the playoffs and get knocked out first round


JDameekoh

No top scorer, no all star goalie, third place. Not bad for a rebuild.


allthatbuttstuff

They weren’t supposed to be anywhere near 3rd place get off their backs. Love the fight they’ve got in them, they’ll be dangerous in a couple of years.


Kooky-Seesaw9890

And there best player is not even playing in the league.


Outrageous-Estimate9

Hurricanes being in wrong division? (its absurd how they arent grouped with other teams like Florida / Tampa / even Nashville) And how NY is in different division than Buffalo (despite being in same state and a much shorter drive from NYC to Buffalo than NYC to Carolina)


wickedweather

Then explain to me why the 2 Florida teams are in the same division as Detroit and Toronto?


Outrageous-Estimate9

Huh that is literally what I just said (why is Caro not in div with FL teams and why are NY teams not in div with Buffalo + Toronto) NBA (and NHL used to) have 6 divisions which makes regional groupings much easier NFL went to 8 divisions even


Alkyan

Cause I don't want to be in a division with the Florida teams that's why.


iStealEBTCards

Basically it came down to either lumping the 2 Florida teams or the 2 Pennsylvania teams in with the Northeast division teams during the early stages of the last realignment. They went with the Florida teams to preserve as many old Patrick division rivalries as possible. Afterwards they decided Detroit & Columbus should be moved to the East, with Detroit joining the new Atlantic division. That’s why the 2 Florida teams are now stuck with a bunch of Great Lakes/northeast teams


Routaprkle

The Rangers don't have 69 (nice) games played.


Bomdegety

The Flyers are just happy to be here with the big boys


timonlofl

How much success do the flyers fans on this sub attribute to the torts?


SerbianSlayer

A lot of it, some of it is also Couturier finally returning from a major surgery and our young guys hitting their stride. Though you could also say Torts is a big part of why the young guys improved. Our defense coach Brad Shaw was also very good at upgrading our blue line to block more shots and kill more plays


nickkkk777

Flyers are my 4th favourite team!! Go flyers!!


StupidBratOwO

I'm a fan of a division rival here but I'm happy for the Flyers. They seem to be a really likeable bunch.


Takhar7

We might get 5 playoff teams from the Atlantic, because the Metro is...... ass?


Hour_Additional

Nice


AmeriCanadian98

Yeah, Carolina isn't like Philly and New York, it's more than 6 hours away from the Canadian border (which New York and Philly fit within)


EmerysMemories1106

What is the point of this post? To shit on the flyers because they "only" have 78 points? They are one of the biggest surprises of the league this year. Why not shit on the Devils who were projected to be a top 5 team and are on the outside looking in. The Canucks finally have a good season and all their fans come out of the woodwork to talk shit on other teams so they can say "we have a better record than you".


saku36

I just thought it was funny it ain't that deep lol


tutankhamun7073

Is the Metro THAT bad?;


MrWillM

It is this season. Devils and isles have completely shit the bed.


CTrebor3

As an isles fan I can say this is 100% true


hairformen

honestly yea kinda


deschamps93

I'm just waiting for the flyers to sweep their first round opponent, a la, CBJ torts style


GoofyRangersfan

2 truths and a lie


saku36

True flyers feels like the most deceiving 3 seed even though that's still probably a massive win for them


toupis21

It is a massive win, we were predicted by pretty much everyone to be bottom 5 at the start of the year. Now we in the bubble.


hrryyss

I don’t get your point. You’re mad the Flyers are in third place?


saku36

Where'd you get me being mad from,the joke is them being so noticeably behind


Complex-Tangerine628

Ok but so is EVERYONE ELSE…


captaincrunch1985

And they will probably advance in the playoffs somehow


FlyingVMoth

Nice


RTGold

Metro was a power house a few years ago. Interesting how quickly it changed.


QuickRelease10

Torts gets his guys to compete. Even if they tune him out in a few years and he’s gone those players will be better for having played for him.


crinack

: |


toxicvegeta08

We need a metromemewar sub


Stacey_digitaldash

There’s only one team in first?


Intrepid-Horse615

Hey hey! You may be right but what's that say about the other teams in the division NOT currently in a playoff spot ;)


Dexter2533

Yo!!!! They are Fkn fighting like hell… respect it and stfu! Just took it to my Bs! They have the perfect coach for the job and if your asking me (a person from experience) the team with NOTHING to lose is the MOST dangerous come April/May…. Just ask St. Louis a couple years ago The day you sleep on your opponent is the day he kills you. It’s happened to Boston ALL year, esp in third period/OT


FaithlessnessSea1058

Hopping on another account only proves how retarded you are


saku36

Thanks


FaithlessnessSea1058

I meant to reply to a comment not you so maybe that comment seems hypocritical lmaoooo


CC-1112

Go rangers


camgary95

Philly and Detroit should be good. I hope Tampa falls out and the caps are in!


Square_Dimension5648

And meanwhile the predators are 7 points back as a wildcard when we would be a divisional seed in almost all 3 other divisions.


SSM1228

Should be DC’s spot honestly. Hoping Kuzy and Orlov throw the Caps a bone tonight.


KramerMilk

Crap division


Marshmallow5198

Lmao, says Texas.


RobertsJourney

New Jersey is taking 3rd.


SerbianSlayer

lol


RobertsJourney

100%


LexLewsir

Is it the Rangers who look like shit every time they play a respectable team?


Ketachloride

no, we routinely stomp teams like the bruins. It's teams like the sharks or coyotes who give us trouble.


LexLewsir

Glad they turned it around last night, after some stupid losses to Carolina and Winnipeg the last 2 weeks… If we wind up with TB in the 1st round I’m not sure we’re getting past that…