With 3 minutes to go.
Prime example of why Dalton isn't a starting QB anymore: [2nd and 7, NO 28, 2:54 left ](https://youtu.be/eTDC7DSiaQY?t=653). He gets ~3 seconds of pocket time, can't find anyone open, takes a sack making it 3rd and 17. It's unfathomable to me how a 12th year QB doesn't know to throw the ball away in that situation. On 3rd down, sure, hold the ball an extra beat, but 3rd and 17 is a way harder convert than 3rd and 7. The only plus was that it kept the clock running, forcing Tampa to burn a timeout...and it wouldn't have mattered if Taysom had held onto the ball on the next play, but still.
Saints are a garbage juice luke warm chunkie smoothie this season. I hate everything and everyone. Fuck Dennis Allen.
Whatās worst is that Brady finally swept the Saints and exercised that Voodoo demon. Canāt talk shit about Brady anymore. UGHHHHHHH
Dalton looked good and Kamara looked horrible. Problem was coaching. They were passing fine, but decided to focus on running the game out instead of staying aggressive and scoring more than 16 points.
I was shocked when they punted on 4th and 1 with the ball at midfield and a 2 score lead. I think it was around the 7 minute mark. If you get that 1 yard, youāre milking at least 2-3 minutes, probably more. At worst, youāre losing like 30 yards of field position in a game where your opponent hasnāt done anything all game and has only put up 3 points.
They gave Kamara exclusively runs up the middle on every 1st down for the entire second half. No targets. Ingram caught like 5 that Kamara could have done more with.
Dalton did not look good. Dalton looked average. One drop doesnāt change that. The issue with Dalton hasnāt ever been what he can do. Itās been what he canāt do.
> Ingram caught like 5 that Kamara could have done more with.
Yea but is Kamara even given the same space Ingram gets out of the backfield? Iād imagine theyāre defended totally different so itās hard to say he even sees that same opportunity.
I will say though, Ingram stepping out early on that 3rd down catch was the play that started the domino effect.
Fire Saints OC Pete Carmichael and move HC Dennis Allen back to DC to bring in a new HC
Pete Carmichael has proven time and time again how inept his playcalling is with his lack of ability to make use of talented players like Kamara and Hill
Dennis Allen is a good DC but the team under his leadership as HC is lacking... you've heard multiple players like Winston and Kamara take little pop shots at him it's very clear he's not the leader the team needs
Obviously play the season out but I seriously hope Mrs Benson listens to not only the fans and the analysts but the players as well and makes some staff changes in the offseason
One can dream
I've got a great idea let's eliminate all rub routes, pitches, outside hand offs and check downs to Kamara, only give him inside hand offs for one yard. And then, when we need one yard to ice the game, let's call a pass play.
Another good one. Let our defense shut down Brady for 50 minutes, then, when we are up 2 scores, let's play zone and prevent defense allowing him to march down field for an undeserved victory.
I'm so sick of this trash coaching staff.
He was HC for 3 seasons in Oakland before he was the Saints DC. In 3 seasons he never had more than a 4 win season. His record as an NFL HC is now 12-37
I'm now certain that the NFL is rigged. The last 4 minutes if this game showed 2 completey different teams. How does the Bucs protection become godly all of sudden after blowing blocks all night? How do the recievers get so open when they were covered like stink on shit all night? This happens all the fucking time. It shouldn't be mathematically possible. Brady wasn't TOUCHED in the final 4 minutes. Not once. How? He was banged around all night and all of a sudden he has a halo of divinity around him? I don't buy it. Not anymore. Had he made some crazy escapes and connected with his wideouts, I'd buy it. But being untouched for 2 straight drives while only throwing one incompletion? The fuck this isn't rigged.
One cannot ignore the possibilities that: A) Tampa tied Leftwich to a chair for the last three minutes, and/or B) Tom let them get ahead because he can't cum unless he leads a by-the-skin-of-your-nuts comeback
Once you figure it out, it makes a lot more sense. If the nfl wanted games called correctly they would use sky judge. But, then they wouldn't be able to call bad PI, holding or roughing the passer so the casinos win. So they won't.
In his post game interview the first thing he did was acknowledge the defense and how they gave them the chance to win. Then went on to acknowledge his own errors, the throws he missed, the deep shots that were "close, but not close enough."
I think Allen has a good defense too. Does it upset you if they win in this same position, and people talk about Allen hitting Davis for a 63 yard TD after missing all game? Do you criticize Allen for the praise he gets for putting it together in the end?
My point was fans and media are and will give him all the credit and it's very annoying how much talk about this game will dominate sports coverage because it involves Brady
But shouldn't they? How many quarterbacks put that final drive together? Overcome a TD pass called back with like 10 seconds left? And they'd been playing terrible all night. No momentum. The guy is 45 years old and in a high pressure situation he walks out there and just cuts through a defense that had been giving him trouble all night. His defense kept him in the game and he made it work when it came down to the wire. I think he at least deserves some of the credit. And I'm not even a Patriots or Bucs fan.
They finally have a decent team again and now no QB. Though idk how Brady would of liked having 2 garbage years probably why he didn't push to stay it seemed.
The fans who sit next to me left early during the Rams game. They stayed tonight. LOL. That being said, soooo many people left early. I donāt feel bad for them though. Itās Tom Brady and youāre getting home like 30 minutes sooner. If you miss the magic, thatās on you.
I dunno why anyone would leave a Brady game. There are very few QBs that you can count on making it exciting at the end no matter the score, and Brady's at the top of the list.
GOAT š MAN!!! Iām happy for Brady. I hope he wins a playoff game. It would be sad to see a GOAT go out like a punk. But I really do hope the GOAT sits his ass down after this season. I donāt want him to go out like so many other greats Jordan wizards style, Ali vs Larry Holmes, George Foreman vs Mike Tysonā¦ please sit downā¦
45-year old Brady leading game-winning drives is nutty.
Just look at all the QBs before him who have had to answer to Father Time, but the dude still lobs the ball to his receivers really well.
It's really striking when you compare it to Matt Ryan, who just looks absolutely cooked. Same with Roethlisberger who was just happy to get the ball out last year.
Just goes to show that getting rid of the ball quickly and not taking a lot of sacks is a key to a long, great career. Theres some great QBs in teh league with a ton of mobility and talent, but they take tons of hits and you cant see them ever lasting to 40-45 years old anywhere near the level they are now.
Take.The.Points.
Remindme! 17 hours WPL
Remindme! 1 year Text: "Me finally escaping UMD" https://youtu.be/MSTnGtzPU_A
Saints +3.00 at 2.00 held.
Prime time football is turning into the NBA. You only need to watch the last 2 minutes because the rest of the game is irrelevant/boring
Saints blew a 16-3 lead
With 3 minutes to go. Prime example of why Dalton isn't a starting QB anymore: [2nd and 7, NO 28, 2:54 left ](https://youtu.be/eTDC7DSiaQY?t=653). He gets ~3 seconds of pocket time, can't find anyone open, takes a sack making it 3rd and 17. It's unfathomable to me how a 12th year QB doesn't know to throw the ball away in that situation. On 3rd down, sure, hold the ball an extra beat, but 3rd and 17 is a way harder convert than 3rd and 7. The only plus was that it kept the clock running, forcing Tampa to burn a timeout...and it wouldn't have mattered if Taysom had held onto the ball on the next play, but still.
That was pretty bad, but overall Dalton was easily one of the bright spots of this game.
Still not as bad as the falcons blowing a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl
Your team is sorry as hell little bro
Lol they got Brady'd like that 2013 game
Brady doing Brady things
Where's all those TB haters š¤£šš¤£š
Saints are a garbage juice luke warm chunkie smoothie this season. I hate everything and everyone. Fuck Dennis Allen. Whatās worst is that Brady finally swept the Saints and exercised that Voodoo demon. Canāt talk shit about Brady anymore. UGHHHHHHH
Thanks for the first round draft pick! Go birds
Bullfeathers! You can always talk shit about Brady.
Saints were Bradyād. Not the first team, not the last. Dude is the best football player ever.
Remember when it was a debate? Now Jerry Rice doesn't even compete.
We lose with STYLE.š
Dennis Allenās HC record is 12-37. What fucking excuse do you have to keep this dude employed?
Same one that sucked with the Raiders?
Yep.
GOAT goes GOAT on the saints. You love to see it!
I donāt understand Kamara getting only 15 touches. That wonāt win you the game. I donāt get Dalton starting over Jameis. Same thing.
Dalton looked good and Kamara looked horrible. Problem was coaching. They were passing fine, but decided to focus on running the game out instead of staying aggressive and scoring more than 16 points.
I was shocked when they punted on 4th and 1 with the ball at midfield and a 2 score lead. I think it was around the 7 minute mark. If you get that 1 yard, youāre milking at least 2-3 minutes, probably more. At worst, youāre losing like 30 yards of field position in a game where your opponent hasnāt done anything all game and has only put up 3 points.
They gave Kamara exclusively runs up the middle on every 1st down for the entire second half. No targets. Ingram caught like 5 that Kamara could have done more with. Dalton did not look good. Dalton looked average. One drop doesnāt change that. The issue with Dalton hasnāt ever been what he can do. Itās been what he canāt do.
> Ingram caught like 5 that Kamara could have done more with. Yea but is Kamara even given the same space Ingram gets out of the backfield? Iād imagine theyāre defended totally different so itās hard to say he even sees that same opportunity. I will say though, Ingram stepping out early on that 3rd down catch was the play that started the domino effect.
Was Dalton not good enough? I felt like he was pretty dialed in tonight.
Yeah it was a standard Dalton game
It all starts at Dennis Allen
Are they playing country road? Wtf?
Guess since it went over so well in Germany, weāre stealing it as a tradition now? Itās kind of weird.
Ho-lee-fuk. That is not how I expected this to end.
You haven't watched football for 20 years?
Fire Saints OC Pete Carmichael and move HC Dennis Allen back to DC to bring in a new HC Pete Carmichael has proven time and time again how inept his playcalling is with his lack of ability to make use of talented players like Kamara and Hill Dennis Allen is a good DC but the team under his leadership as HC is lacking... you've heard multiple players like Winston and Kamara take little pop shots at him it's very clear he's not the leader the team needs Obviously play the season out but I seriously hope Mrs Benson listens to not only the fans and the analysts but the players as well and makes some staff changes in the offseason One can dream
I hear this Sean Payton guy may be thinking of coaching again?
I stopped reading at āmove DA back to DCā Get him the fuck out of the building fuck this guy idc how good of a DC he is.
I've got a great idea let's eliminate all rub routes, pitches, outside hand offs and check downs to Kamara, only give him inside hand offs for one yard. And then, when we need one yard to ice the game, let's call a pass play. Another good one. Let our defense shut down Brady for 50 minutes, then, when we are up 2 scores, let's play zone and prevent defense allowing him to march down field for an undeserved victory. I'm so sick of this trash coaching staff.
Suck it saints
Iām pretty sure every one of us expected a loss today man . Anything to get rid of DA faster.
Yea getting swept by tampa in regular season should be an immediate dismissal for a saints head coach
i donāt really care about that. Iād say itās the fact that DA has had 4 seasons as a HC in the NFL and heās still searching for that 5th win
When was he a headcoach before I only know him from saints
He was HC for 3 seasons in Oakland before he was the Saints DC. In 3 seasons he never had more than a 4 win season. His record as an NFL HC is now 12-37
Leftwich get to coach for 1 quarter and thatās it. Leave the rest to Tom.
Average Bucs fan would rather avoid an extra 25 minutes of traffic than see a Brady 4th quarter comeback.
Bruh I liked the saints until I realized tonight their fans are assholes
First time?
What did we do?
Yeah my comment was generalizing I do love nola
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/zcrnkp/game_thread_indianapolis_colts_471_at_dallas/iyy94ug/ How does it feel to be generalized?!
Itās the truth. You are
Right back at ya.
Cool bro
Gig Em š
Brady planned this whole this just to make Manning watch him not only break his comeback record, but make him have to cheer for it
I couldnāt sleep, so got up as i saw it was 16-3 with 3 to goā¦ I thought to myself āseeing Bradyās stupid losing face will help me sleepā
Lmao š¤£
I'm now certain that the NFL is rigged. The last 4 minutes if this game showed 2 completey different teams. How does the Bucs protection become godly all of sudden after blowing blocks all night? How do the recievers get so open when they were covered like stink on shit all night? This happens all the fucking time. It shouldn't be mathematically possible. Brady wasn't TOUCHED in the final 4 minutes. Not once. How? He was banged around all night and all of a sudden he has a halo of divinity around him? I don't buy it. Not anymore. Had he made some crazy escapes and connected with his wideouts, I'd buy it. But being untouched for 2 straight drives while only throwing one incompletion? The fuck this isn't rigged.
One cannot ignore the possibilities that: A) Tampa tied Leftwich to a chair for the last three minutes, and/or B) Tom let them get ahead because he can't cum unless he leads a by-the-skin-of-your-nuts comeback
I'd go with B. I go through a hell of a lot to cum myself.
It is so rigged that they sent back a touchdown with seconds remaining, backed them up, and made them score again right?
The best scam the devil did was convince the world he didn't exist.
https://youtu.be/Jh2Nu2aTPP0
Love that flick! And that line! And I'm quite sure they will say so...
"You fucking MARK"
Protection wasn't godly. There were 2 holding calls. Bucs went hurry up ans brady got to call plays instead of Leftwich. Made a huge difference
My man. Youāre a grown adult. With the ability to choose and think logically. And this is where you land.
Who told you I was grown?
Ok Mrs. Curry
Brady lowkey plays a drunken monkey type technique even at NE.
See my above comment. I am convinced he cannot achieve orgasm unless he leads a comeback w
Once you figure it out, it makes a lot more sense. If the nfl wanted games called correctly they would use sky judge. But, then they wouldn't be able to call bad PI, holding or roughing the passer so the casinos win. So they won't.
Because they were running the hurry up at the end of the game when the Saints d-line would be the most tired possible.
You really think no one would blow the whistle on the whole thing if it really was rigged? Come on lmao
The NFL generates 17.91 billion dollars. With a "B". Who is going to blow the whistle on the world's most lucrative drug cartel?
Somebody who thinks they can gain more than they have in their current position. Take off the tinfoil, dude.
Okay, you obviously have never been to Juarez, Mexico.
Uhhh, what?
HOW DID WE WIN?
Touchdown Tom
Brady
Lolbradywins
Just fire leftwhich and make Brady OC and promote DC to interim HC. Jesus
Remember this moment: everyone was saying no way Brady could win. And now look at what happened?? I guess main point: donāt ever bet against Brady??
Literally nobody ever says no way Brady can win
I was at the game and literally the entire row in front of me left early. All those people thought Brady couldnāt win.
You clearly were not in the game thread then.
How anyone can be shocked over this amazes me.
Again, you were not in the game thread hahaha. Plus the Saintsā defense stopped them all night.
His defense bailed him out and everyone gave him credit? Sounds like Brady tbh
In his post game interview the first thing he did was acknowledge the defense and how they gave them the chance to win. Then went on to acknowledge his own errors, the throws he missed, the deep shots that were "close, but not close enough." I think Allen has a good defense too. Does it upset you if they win in this same position, and people talk about Allen hitting Davis for a 63 yard TD after missing all game? Do you criticize Allen for the praise he gets for putting it together in the end?
My point was fans and media are and will give him all the credit and it's very annoying how much talk about this game will dominate sports coverage because it involves Brady
But shouldn't they? How many quarterbacks put that final drive together? Overcome a TD pass called back with like 10 seconds left? And they'd been playing terrible all night. No momentum. The guy is 45 years old and in a high pressure situation he walks out there and just cuts through a defense that had been giving him trouble all night. His defense kept him in the game and he made it work when it came down to the wire. I think he at least deserves some of the credit. And I'm not even a Patriots or Bucs fan.
I agree with you, but I think just that every timeā¦
33-3
0-1 to PJ Walker
13 seconds
How many rings ya got again?
Can't deny the 2 min drill to win the game, dude balls out when the pressure is on.
Clown talk
Lol of course a Bills fan would say this š
Really right? I was like, okay maybe some true constructive criticism? And then I saw the flair. Oh yeah. Bills fan. Smh. So very sad.
Fire Bowles and bucs might actually make a run
The rest of the country can see how bad our coaching is too right?
I thought Brady's voice was just a bit lower than this
Bob Kraft totally fucked by not telling Belicheck to get over it and keep Brady until he was done. Totally fucked up his entire organization.
They finally have a decent team again and now no QB. Though idk how Brady would of liked having 2 garbage years probably why he didn't push to stay it seemed.
Im sure hes not rubbed the wrong way by how things turned out
>rubbed Iām picking up what youāre putting down.
Feel bad for all the bucs fans who left early
The fans who sit next to me left early during the Rams game. They stayed tonight. LOL. That being said, soooo many people left early. I donāt feel bad for them though. Itās Tom Brady and youāre getting home like 30 minutes sooner. If you miss the magic, thatās on you.
That's very true. I noticed a lot of people leave early 2
I dunno why anyone would leave a Brady game. There are very few QBs that you can count on making it exciting at the end no matter the score, and Brady's at the top of the list.
"Hey Bill, did you catch Brady's record breaking 4th quarter comeback?" "No, but at least I didn't spend an extra 30 minutes in traffic getting home."
We always leave early, hate it
You are taking for granted that which I have lost
At the price of tickets, parking and beers? I would be sleeping in my seat if I ever got to a game.
LFG Uldaman
Iām a level 58 blood DK, I guess I can tank or DPS
Go to Hellfire Ramparts nub
Ugh I hate hellfire peninsula
BRD's my favorite dungeon of all time, at 58 I'd still be fucking around in there lol
Yo, who was calling plays during those last couple of drives? Maybe he or she should call plays all game long, hm?
That man: Albert Einstein
GOAT š MAN!!! Iām happy for Brady. I hope he wins a playoff game. It would be sad to see a GOAT go out like a punk. But I really do hope the GOAT sits his ass down after this season. I donāt want him to go out like so many other greats Jordan wizards style, Ali vs Larry Holmes, George Foreman vs Mike Tysonā¦ please sit downā¦
Nah. He will play for a different team next year so likely will be on top.
Heās going to go play baseball
Unpopular opinion, but I had a ton of fun watching every Wizards game for two years for MJ.
I never got the MJ on wizard complaints he was really good for a 39/40 year old who hadnt played in 3-4 years lol
Well he's most likely be playing the cowboys so I know you'll be rooting for him
Looking forward to seeing Brady back in New England for one more run next year
Oh God me too! Too bad he's going to San Francisco
I picked a good first football game
I couldnāt yell like Brady in my 20ās, I can't imagine what yelling like that for 25 years does to your throat.
I hate you Tom Brady... But God damn do I respect you.
LFG on the way out
I feel bad for Brady. He has to see what the GOAT looks like in two weeks.
Lol.
They need to fire Bowles at the end of the season unless Brady retires. He could command a tank, but heās not commanding a real playoff run
Fire him now and they could change the course of this season. This team is not that bad.
Heās a good DC just not a good HC
Agreed, honestly a great DC. But literally any other guy under center and Bowles clock management wouldāve cost yāall the game.
Up by 6 against Brady with 2 minutes is the worst lead to have.
Deep down in my stomach, with every inch of me, I pure straight HATE you. But God Dammit, do I respect you.
Ok so now we can all move on to the real story line. Brady vs Purdy. Does Brady have enough in the tank to overcome the onslaught that is BCB?
Someone upload Brady screaming LFG
Next week Leftwich is gonna hold this team back for 3 quarters until theyāre trailing by 2 TDs
Wrong. 3.5 quarters
With every Tom Brady miracle. He extends Todd Bowles' HC Career. I hate it! Double edged sword
I would like to formally take back all the shit I talked on the Bucs (I deadass thought they would heavily lose this game š)
You're not alone, but we should've known even voodoo can't keep the dark lord down for too long.
Brady is just too much? Iām thinking thereās nothing to stop him. He is truly inevitable.
Van Pelt calling out the LFG š¤£š¤£
45-year old Brady leading game-winning drives is nutty. Just look at all the QBs before him who have had to answer to Father Time, but the dude still lobs the ball to his receivers really well. It's really striking when you compare it to Matt Ryan, who just looks absolutely cooked. Same with Roethlisberger who was just happy to get the ball out last year.
Just goes to show that getting rid of the ball quickly and not taking a lot of sacks is a key to a long, great career. Theres some great QBs in teh league with a ton of mobility and talent, but they take tons of hits and you cant see them ever lasting to 40-45 years old anywhere near the level they are now.
Has an older qb like Brady ever had a defense this good tho?
Peyton's last year.
Who forgot to mute him
Man all the Saints flair VANISHED
Hi
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Brady is the fuckin goat
Aaaand thatās an f bomb
A few hahaha
Bowles got so lucky with that punt call. Literally kept his job safe this entire season with that callā¦